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[六道仙人]

The only reason I was keeping on eye on the thread was because I was looking forward to your translation of the critic comment but it seems that you change your mind, oh well maybe next time.

what translation? I thought that I did all three NS cards

[Don-kun]

what translation? I thought that I did all three NS cards

maybe I lost your post we tween all those other post, but that's fine Am pretty sure there will be something else in Japanese language to talk about in a future.

[六道仙人]

Well, if you lost my post about those statements from the critic and for everyone who didn't see it

IT'S HERE

[Sojobo]

@六道仙人

Hi
can you translate all Hinata's parts please.
Want to know what they say, even if it's not in the love part.

[六道仙人]

@六道仙人

Hi
can you translate all Hinata's parts please.
Want to know what they say, even if it's not in the love part.

Ok, I'll post them as soon as I can...

[Sojobo]

Ok, thank you.

[Canadian_DJ]

I think following the critic logic 615 can also e put on encouragement but sadly there's no encouragement between Naruto and Sakura.
I see the part where it should be encouragement on the "Dream" part.
and the part where Sakura said she doesnt want to see Naruto's dream crushed on the "Love" part instead of "Dream".

........really......????

Naruti and sakura DEFINITELY have encouragement, look at all those times naruto and sakura encouraged eachother when they despair because of sasuke, look at all the times naruto and sakura encouraged eaxhother during the chunin exams.... etc

Btw live all the posts here, good to be back on track with the debate thread.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

........really......????

Naruti and sakura DEFINITELY have encouragement, look at all those times naruto and sakura encouraged eachother when they despair because of sasuke, look at all the times naruto and sakura encouraged eaxhother during the chunin exams.... etc

Btw live all the posts here, good to be back on track with the debate thread.

It'sn ot my opinion though it's from the critic i said there's no encouragement stuff between Naruto and Sakura on the kizuna books.

[Canadian_DJ]

3). Kishimoto said in an interview that Hinata would make a better heroine than sakura.

I just wanted to make something clear to you all, that this was mistranslated, he never said this, but he said that he portrayed sakura in a heroine postion but was told by the fans that she wasnt, or something like that, and that although they say hinata-hinata, he says "no, I say sakura"
He also said that hed make sakura more heroic from now on.
Wheres chatte??? can you post the proper translation please?

@Dark

Look at the manga, theres plenty of encouragement between the pair, in the kizuna book they only high lighted the major aspects of narusakus relationship.

All in all, the encouragments there, whether the kizuna book states it or not.

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 08 May 2013 - 02:11 PM.

[Dkey]

Can I but in and say that the analysis was structured around themes and not relationships or characters?

Meaning that the NH interaction represents a better example for encouragement than NS. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just that the first is a good example of encouragement.

[Chatte]

I just wanted to make something clear to you all, that this was mistranslated, he never said this, but he said that he portrayed sakura in a heroine postion but was told by the fans that she wasnt, or something like that, and that although they say hinata-hinata, he says "no, I say sakura"
He also said that hed make sakura more heroic from now on.
Wheres chatte??? can you post the proper translation please?

Yup, I am here.

周りからヒロインらしくないとかヒナタのほうがヒロインだとか言われているがやはりサクラは自分の中でヒロインなんで、これからヒロインっぽい所見せる」

I have been told by other people that Sakura isn't acting like a heroine, or that Hinata is more of a heroine than her, but if I think of it Sakura really has the strength of a heroine inside her, and from here on out she's ready to show it, too.

[Canadian_DJ]

And again in RTN, Sakura is thinking about Naruto's dream after seeing her dad's face on the rocks.
I was immediatly thinking about the Chuunin exam.

Kishimoto really insist on Sakura being the only girl close to Naruto, thinking about his futur.
Kishi never show it with Hinata. Coincidence? I don't think so...

Isn't it kinda obvious?

- Sakura's working in the Hokage's Library
- Sakura is intelligent and can handle the Hokage's paper stuff
- Sakura knows pretty well the Hokage's work
- Sakura admire Naruto's dream


Kishimoto did it all in purpose in my opinion. Sakura will assist Naruto ad his woman, when he'll be Hokage.

I agree all the way, *so many feels* and I also sakura actually understands naruto as a human being which is what every soul mate should know,plus theyre also romantic with eachother!!!

Awesome posts guys!

Oh and chatte THANK YOU!!!! ♡♡♡♥♥♥

Oh and bte read all your analysis' s and LOVED THEM!!

[ladyannelise]

alright, so in the end, Rin was a jinchuruki and chose her own death so that she wont be used against the village..
has anyone saw that coming? i didn't.. another one that Kishi pulled,.
if you think about it, it was a simple reason. not much drama there.. i thought that Kakashi was forced to kill her, in the end it was an 'accident' on his part.. and a really mean reason on Rin's part - yeah, she wanted to die by the hands of the one she love, but how about Kakashi? grrr... another selfish love why are girls in this series so selfish?

at least, Sakura is healing Naruto now and they're surrounded by everyone who's still alive. but, Hinata is also there, actually supporting him with everyone else,. i have to say, im still looking forward to future chapters, but recently, what we've been seeing is a really let down

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yup, I am here.

周りからヒロインらしくないとかヒナタのほうがヒロインだとか言われているがやはりサクラは自分の中でヒロインなんで、これからヒロインっぽい所見せる」

I have been told by other people that Sakura isn't acting like a heroine, or that Hinata is more of a heroine than her, but if I think of it Sakura really has the strength of a heroine inside her, and from here on out she's ready to show it, too.

This supposed to be one about the whole Hinata being a better heroine by Kishi himself, right? If so, well someone is wrong and it's not Chatte. Honestly, I feel people give too much credit for whatever reason that I don't know. To me, Kishi just do the realistic approach of heroine, rather than "Must be flashy! Must be suicidal!" While that's shounen, I don't know, it's nice to have a different view once in a while. But that's just me.

alright, so in the end, Rin was a jinchuruki and chose her own death so that she wont be used against the village..
has anyone saw that coming? i didn't.. another one that Kishi pulled,.
if you think about it, it was a simple reason. not much drama there.. i thought that Kakashi was forced to kill her, in the end it was an 'accident' on his part.. and a really mean reason on Rin's part - yeah, she wanted to die by the hands of the one she love, but how about Kakashi? grrr... another selfish love why are girls in this series so selfish?

at least, Sakura is healing Naruto now and they're surrounded by everyone who's still alive. but, Hinata is also there, actually supporting him with everyone else,. i have to say, im still looking forward to future chapters, but recently, what we've been seeing is a really let down

Rin is being used by others and they won't kill her because she's part of the plan and Kakashi won't kill her because she's his friend and he promised Obito to protect her. So what to do? Sneak in to get killed when least expected and Rin did it.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 08 May 2013 - 03:36 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Rin is being used by others and they won't kill her because she's part of the plan and Kakashi won't kill her because she's his friend and he promised Obito to protect her. So what to do? Sneak in to get killed when least expected and Rin did it.

But why she didnt kill herself then?
Why she needed Kakashi just because she wanted to die at his hands ot sound "romantic" and was very selfish of her part just to give pain to Kakashi and made him break his promise to Obito.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 08 May 2013 - 04:01 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

But why she didnt kill herself then?
Why she needed Kakashi just because she wanted to die at his hands ot sound "romantic" and was very selfish of her part just to give pain to Kakashi and made him break his promise to Obito.

Until anything more info release, it is Raikiri, which is like the fastest way to die. Also, the mist probably have their eyes on her if she suddenly takes action to kill herself, like draw a Kunai to stab herself. Plus, I don't think she has any weapons to do so. It's messed up but that's the case.

[redragon88]

Until anything more info release, it is Raikiri, which is like the fastest way to die. Also, the mist probably have their eyes on her if she suddenly takes action to kill herself, like draw a Kunai to stab herself. Plus, I don't think she has any weapons to do so. It's messed up but that's the case.

For a moment I also thought of why she just didn't do it herself instead of making Kakashi go through with such a painful action, but after you explanation it does make sense that maybe she wasn't in a position to properly end her life and so needed to resort to timing her death properly with Kakashi.

I'm also interested in how the fight between Kakashi and Obito will develop. Will Kakashi just try to defeat him, or will they exchange even more words? If it's the later I think we might get more info related to Rin. The essentials have been revealed but there's something that still feels missing in my perspective.

It's that panel of Kakashi being surprised after Obito talks about how Rin died at the hands of who she loved that feels odd to me. As if Kakashi is shocked that Obito thinks that way and then he has a flashback of when Rin brought up wanting to die with Kakashi saying there has to be another way.

I think that little flashback might be expanded upon. Maybe Rin will make it clear as to why she's at peace with dying. I think it was James Cassidy who theorized about Rin maybe having developed love for Obito after loosing him, so maybe she could say that it would be fine since now the two of them could be together in the afterlife. Oh the irony.

[James S Cassidy]

But why she didnt kill herself then?
Why she needed Kakashi just because she wanted to die at his hands ot sound "romantic" and was very selfish of her part just to give pain to Kakashi and made him break his promise to Obito.

Rin: I cannot self terminate.

Sort of like Rin's end. --Click here to view--

[Inferno180]

Yup, I am here.

周りからヒロインらしくないとかヒナタのほうがヒロインだとか言われているがやはりサクラは自分の中でヒロインなんで、これからヒロインっぽい所見せる」

I have been told by other people that Sakura isn't acting like a heroine, or that Hinata is more of a heroine than her, but if I think of it Sakura really has the strength of a heroine inside her, and from here on out she's ready to show it, too.

This is the one quote people who hate Sakura never listen too. Sakura has the potential and ability, its time she unleashed it. This is why Sakura will have some role obviously when Sasuke gets back but Naruto and Sakura have a lot more interaction in the story still. Long as team 7 has a story, Naruto and Sakura have more interaction.

[ladyannelise]

This is the one quote people who hate Sakura never listen too. Sakura has the potential and ability, its time she unleashed it. This is why Sakura will have some role obviously when Sasuke gets back but Naruto and Sakura have a lot more interaction in the story still. Long as team 7 has a story, Naruto and Sakura have more interaction.

they definitely will have a lot of interactions in the coming chapters, at least that's what i think..
Naruto is injured and Sakura is (for the first time after so many chapters) right beside him, healing him..
although i didnt like the reason behind Rin's death, the panel where everyone surrounded Naruto while Sakura is healing him made me glad and i thought, 'ah, that's how it should be. the hero and the heroine together at the center, while everyone's on their sides'
Kishi put Sakura beside Naruto in this chapter, and im hoping that it's a link to what was to come which will eventually and finally overshadow the 615 thing