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#1901 arian_rad

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 03:16 AM

I just laughed at this chapter, it's confirmation of my continued downward spiral in opinion of Sakura. I used to think well of her, but it's just been useless mistakes and stupidity in an ever increasing downward slope.

 

Hey, there's a traitor fighting by your side. You should hate him.

 

But he just pulled out an amazing jutsu! Forgive everything!

 

"Squeeee! You're so cool Sasuke! You're basically a monster but I want your babies!"

 

And her technique? Hey Sakura, want to try some originality?

 

What's that? You've never done anything original in the entire manga? Oh, my heart bleeds for you!

 

It took you three years to activate that technique...how about actually having a technique during those three years that wasn't utterly useless. If you're supposed to be one of the new Sanin, your predecessors must be weeping right now!

 

I feel truly shamed that I ever wasted my time on this character. After all of that, she's still a simpering fangirl.

 

Sakura Haruno....clearly missed the train to being a fully-realised character, and instead retains the title of "Biggest Doormat in Anime"!

 

The amount of disrespect for that character in that panel was so high and half of it didnt even make sense. If you want to make fun of sakura, what about not making fun of it on heaven and earth where we're all fans of the character. And im sorry, but is it that when you call your friends names ur fangirling or fanboying? I missed that part. What about you analyze properly before you come to biased conclusions. Thanks :)



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 03:23 AM

I just laughed at this chapter, it's confirmation of my continued downward spiral in opinion of Sakura. I used to think well of her, but it's just been useless mistakes and stupidity in an ever increasing downward slope.

 

Hey, there's a traitor fighting by your side. You should hate him.

 

But he just pulled out an amazing jutsu! Forgive everything!

 

"Squeeee! You're so cool Sasuke! You're basically a monster but I want your babies!"

 

And her technique? Hey Sakura, want to try some originality?

 

What's that? You've never done anything original in the entire manga? Oh, my heart bleeds for you!

 

It took you three years to activate that technique...how about actually having a technique during those three years that wasn't utterly useless. If you're supposed to be one of the new Sanin, your predecessors must be weeping right now!

 

I feel truly shamed that I ever wasted my time on this character. After all of that, she's still a simpering fangirl.

 

Sakura Haruno....clearly missed the train to being a fully-realised character, and instead retains the title of "Biggest Doormat in Anime"!

And you clearly do not know her character all that well. 

 

-How does one claim she's fangirling when all she did was say Sasuke's name?

 

-You clamor on about orignality and yet their aren't many characters using completely original moves. Rasengan? Jiraiya and Minato. Susanoo? Itachi. Mind Transfer, Yamanaka clan. Also, Sakura's seal doesn't even have the same name as Tsunades so for all we know, it's ORIGINAL, and at least the kitten she does hasn't isn't something many people have. That seal can only be obtained by those with precise chakra control. Her superstrength is exactly the same. 

 

And what's more. She has just starting showing us what her capabilities are... -_- I wonder why you came here to bash her though. You were better off going to YT to do such a thing.  :down:



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 03:31 AM

I just laughed at this chapter, it's confirmation of my continued downward spiral in opinion of Sakura. I used to think well of her, but it's just been useless mistakes and stupidity in an ever increasing downward slope.

 

Hey, there's a traitor fighting by your side. You should hate him.

 

But he just pulled out an amazing jutsu! Forgive everything!

 

"Squeeee! You're so cool Sasuke! You're basically a monster but I want your babies!"

 

And her technique? Hey Sakura, want to try some originality?

 

What's that? You've never done anything original in the entire manga? Oh, my heart bleeds for you!

 

It took you three years to activate that technique...how about actually having a technique during those three years that wasn't utterly useless. If you're supposed to be one of the new Sanin, your predecessors must be weeping right now!

 

I feel truly shamed that I ever wasted my time on this character. After all of that, she's still a simpering fangirl.

 

Sakura Haruno....clearly missed the train to being a fully-realised character, and instead retains the title of "Biggest Doormat in Anime

 

Maybe it's just me, but since when is "Sasuke-Kun" fangirling or squeeling?

 

I am just going to straight up say it, I think you are a troll.

 

Also if her new seal is useless then Tsunade must be useless too.

 

Edit: StriderC said it all perfectly


Edited by zatheko, 02 June 2013 - 03:32 AM.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 03:34 AM

I just laughed at this chapter, it's confirmation of my continued downward spiral in opinion of Sakura. I used to think well of her, but it's just been useless mistakes and stupidity in an ever increasing downward slope.

 

Hey, there's a traitor fighting by your side. You should hate him.

 

But he just pulled out an amazing jutsu! Forgive everything!

 

"Squeeee! You're so cool Sasuke! You're basically a monster but I want your babies!"

 

And her technique? Hey Sakura, want to try some originality?

 

What's that? You've never done anything original in the entire manga? Oh, my heart bleeds for you!

 

It took you three years to activate that technique...how about actually having a technique during those three years that wasn't utterly useless. If you're supposed to be one of the new Sanin, your predecessors must be weeping right now!

 

I feel truly shamed that I ever wasted my time on this character. After all of that, she's still a simpering fangirl.

 

Sakura Haruno....clearly missed the train to being a fully-realised character, and instead retains the title of "Biggest Doormat in Anime"!

 

I don't know what brought you here. If you don't like Sakura, you can leave this site. Don't bother get into trouble again. I don't want you go up bashing in this forum.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 03:39 AM

I just laughed at this chapter, it's confirmation of my continued downward spiral in opinion of Sakura. I used to think well of her, but it's just been useless mistakes and stupidity in an ever increasing downward slope.

 

Hey, there's a traitor fighting by your side. You should hate him.

 

But he just pulled out an amazing jutsu! Forgive everything!

 

"Squeeee! You're so cool Sasuke! You're basically a monster but I want your babies!"

 

And her technique? Hey Sakura, want to try some originality?

 

What's that? You've never done anything original in the entire manga? Oh, my heart bleeds for you!

 

It took you three years to activate that technique...how about actually having a technique during those three years that wasn't utterly useless. If you're supposed to be one of the new Sanin, your predecessors must be weeping right now!

 

I feel truly shamed that I ever wasted my time on this character. After all of that, she's still a simpering fangirl.

 

Sakura Haruno....clearly missed the train to being a fully-realised character, and instead retains the title of "Biggest Doormat in Anime"!

 

Your post is so full of character bashing is not even funny. I wonder why people do this sometimes. Do they want attention that badly?

 

-Anyway, considering the smile in these last three panels is unchanged, I can debate that she did not fangirl over Sasuke. Plus considering that in the end, she was speaking to Naruto directly (refer to raw translation for details), it shows a clear difference between the fangirl Sakura from part 1 and this Sakura.

 

-"Sasuke-kun"... nothing else is said here. If that is fangirling, then me saying Kishimoto-sempai is me doing the same? ........right.

 

-Rasengan, Chidori, Amaterasu, even the Bijuu-Dama... and you complain about the possible variation of the Byakugou?

 

-Yeah, forget about her battle with Sasori, the fact that she was able to find an antidote for Kankuro, and the fact that she's pretty much the only ninja with perfect chakra control.

 

-Three years for a normal ninja to learn a technique that even another of Tsunade's students (Shizune) could not master in her entire life. Plus the gates are now open for her to be able to learn techniques like the creation rebirth and maybe even the Byakugou activation that Tsunade used in the fight against Madara (the recovery was so good that she had to be split in two.. which kinda saddens me because Madara is just a ridiculously overpowered character at the moment).

 

-I don't even need to discuss the last two points. It is clearly character bashing and expect at the very least a warning from the mods.

 

I don't even have pity for people like you. Trying to gain attention by trolling and obviously going against the rules of the forum. In the end, people like you dig their own grave.


Edited by Shadow Wolf, 02 June 2013 - 03:43 AM.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 03:44 AM

I just laughed at this chapter, it's confirmation of my continued downward spiral in opinion of Sakura. I used to think well of her, but it's just been useless mistakes and stupidity in an ever increasing downward slope.
 
Hey, there's a traitor fighting by your side. You should hate him.
 
But he just pulled out an amazing jutsu! Forgive everything!
 
"Squeeee! You're so cool Sasuke! You're basically a monster but I want your babies!"
 
And her technique? Hey Sakura, want to try some originality?
 
What's that? You've never done anything original in the entire manga? Oh, my heart bleeds for you!
 
It took you three years to activate that technique...how about actually having a technique during those three years that wasn't utterly useless. If you're supposed to be one of the new Sanin, your predecessors must be weeping right now!
 
I feel truly shamed that I ever wasted my time on this character. After all of that, she's still a simpering fangirl.
 
Sakura Haruno....clearly missed the train to being a fully-realised character, and instead retains the title of "Biggest Doormat in Anime"!


O boy, mods, could u pls kick this kid out, I sense a kitten coming.

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 03:59 AM

I just laughed at this chapter, it's confirmation of my continued downward spiral in opinion of Sakura. I used to think well of her, but it's just been useless mistakes and stupidity in an ever increasing downward slope.
 
Hey, there's a traitor fighting by your side. You should hate him.
 
But he just pulled out an amazing jutsu! Forgive everything!
 
"Squeeee! You're so cool Sasuke! You're basically a monster but I want your babies!"
 
And her technique? Hey Sakura, want to try some originality?
 
What's that? You've never done anything original in the entire manga? Oh, my heart bleeds for you!
 
It took you three years to activate that technique...how about actually having a technique during those three years that wasn't utterly useless. If you're supposed to be one of the new Sanin, your predecessors must be weeping right now!
 
I feel truly shamed that I ever wasted my time on this character. After all of that, she's still a simpering fangirl.
 
Sakura Haruno....clearly missed the train to being a fully-realised character, and instead retains the title of "Biggest Doormat in Anime"!


Reminds me, before u say anything else. What useful jutsu did Hinata come up with. I know it didn't help her against pain, an she needed help with the kyuubi chakra in order to make her stronger instead of using her own power. To me, it looks like Sakura is more original since, you, know, she doesn't need to draw strength from others but can improve herself with her own will an strength.

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 04:55 AM

At it's base, Hinata's technique was at least original. And it was the base model only, it can only be improved.

 

As for the person who said about Naruto being unoriginal with the Rasengan, I think you'll find that transforming it into the Rasenshuriken and being able to throw it constitutes a massive deviation from the original.

 

And as for Sakura's technique, it's the culmination of 3 years of stored chakra. So she needs to store up three years worth of chakra to become that powerful. I think you'll find that with anyone if they stored up that much chakra they'd be as powerful. And as I said, it's just like Tsunade's technique. There is no difference. Because to the point, they're not supposed to be fighters. They're medics. And their style isn't really a style, it's just straight up brawling.

 

As for the Sasori fight....it was pretty much Chiyo doing everything. If Chiyo hadn't been there, Sakura would have been quickly overwhelmed. And the only thing that she did that was effective was to allow Chiyo to make her into a 'human puppet'.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:08 AM

I'm just going to say this. It has been mentioned multiple times that Sakura will surpass Tsunade. If you think that only obtaining the seal is as far as she is going go, then I'm going to have to say you are wrong. Eventually, Sakura's seal will expand and most likely leading to an improved or original power of her own.

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:17 AM

At it's base, Hinata's technique was at least original. And it was the base model only, it can only be improved.

 

As for the person who said about Naruto being unoriginal with the Rasengan, I think you'll find that transforming it into the Rasenshuriken and being able to throw it constitutes a massive deviation from the original.

 

And as for Sakura's technique, it's the culmination of 3 years of stored chakra. So she needs to store up three years worth of chakra to become that powerful. I think you'll find that with anyone if they stored up that much chakra they'd be as powerful. And as I said, it's just like Tsunade's technique. There is no difference. Because to the point, they're not supposed to be fighters. They're medics. And their style isn't really a style, it's just straight up brawling.

 

As for the Sasori fight....it was pretty much Chiyo doing everything. If Chiyo hadn't been there, Sakura would have been quickly overwhelmed. And the only thing that she did that was effective was to allow Chiyo to make her into a 'human puppet'.

Sakura is stronger than Hinata get, over it.

Sakura is Naruto's love interest, get over it.

Sakura at the end of the Manga will become the strongest Kunoichi and best medic in the Manga, get over it.

Hinata is a side character Sakura is a main character, get over hit.

Finally with the direction of the Manga it seems that Sakura will be the wife on Mother of the blond Hokage child, get over it.

 

If you hate Sakura so much why you keep posting in a place where everyone's loves her?

Your comment will not rile me up since all I need to say is that Hinata will never the the great woman that Sakura is destined to be.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:29 AM

At it's base, Hinata's technique was at least original. And it was the base model only, it can only be improved.

 

As for the person who said about Naruto being unoriginal with the Rasengan, I think you'll find that transforming it into the Rasenshuriken and being able to throw it constitutes a massive deviation from the original.

 

And as for Sakura's technique, it's the culmination of 3 years of stored chakra. So she needs to store up three years worth of chakra to become that powerful. I think you'll find that with anyone if they stored up that much chakra they'd be as powerful. And as I said, it's just like Tsunade's technique. There is no difference. Because to the point, they're not supposed to be fighters. They're medics. And their style isn't really a style, it's just straight up brawling.

 

As for the Sasori fight....it was pretty much Chiyo doing everything. If Chiyo hadn't been there, Sakura would have been quickly overwhelmed. And the only thing that she did that was effective was to allow Chiyo to make her into a 'human puppet'.

Completely wrong, she doesn't need to store up three more years to do it again, the seal is now active and will be there when she needs it.

 

Chiyo doing everything in the Sasori fight? Ok, now I can tell you are extremely biased and just plain like to bash a character because you have nothing better to do.''

 

Also Beastbomb is right, Hinata has not come up with any amazing or completely original Jutsu, you can say Sakura's is not original but to be honest that is not entirely true, she improved it, improved something that a Hokage uses, just like Naruto improved rasengan a technique the fourth Hokage uses. 


Edited by zatheko, 02 June 2013 - 05:29 AM.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:30 AM

At it's base, Hinata's technique was at least original. And it was the base model only, it can only be improved.

 

As for the person who said about Naruto being unoriginal with the Rasengan, I think you'll find that transforming it into the Rasenshuriken and being able to throw it constitutes a massive deviation from the original.

 

And as for Sakura's technique, it's the culmination of 3 years of stored chakra. So she needs to store up three years worth of chakra to become that powerful. I think you'll find that with anyone if they stored up that much chakra they'd be as powerful. And as I said, it's just like Tsunade's technique. There is no difference. Because to the point, they're not supposed to be fighters. They're medics. And their style isn't really a style, it's just straight up brawling.

 

As for the Sasori fight....it was pretty much Chiyo doing everything. If Chiyo hadn't been there, Sakura would have been quickly overwhelmed. And the only thing that she did that was effective was to allow Chiyo to make her into a 'human puppet'.

 

-And I believe this is what frustrates you. While we're looking forward to Sakura's abilities improving, Hinata's techniques have not changed during the course of the manga; and from what it seems like, this is Sakura's time to shine. Keep in mind that most techniques passed won from teachers to students are pretty much copies (and even if Naruto improved the Rasengan into the Rasen-SHuriken, I'll use your exact point and say that the base was indeed, a copy).

 

-Considering that she had to store chakra constantly, she didn't fought at 100% until now. Second, she is a normal human being with no bloodline nor special ability (unlike Hinata, who was born a Hyuuga). Again, to do in three years what no other person has done in her entire life is a huge accomplishment for a normal person. And guess what? Kishi can develop her even further as a part of Team 7. She is the heroine after all.

 

-Watch the fight again and tell me who is the one who pulls Sasori by the cord and smash him into pieces. Tell me who is the one praised by Sasori for putting a pressure on him that he hasn't felt in quite a while? And even if it was thanks to teamwork, tell me who was the female character who defeated an Akatsuki member? Sadly, Hinata has not accomplished any of these things (Nothing to Pain and just block a single attack cannot compare to what Sakura has achieved both as a fighter and as a medical ninja).

 

-The simple fact that she is a normal girl and that she has accomplished this much is more than enough proof to conclude that she is more powerful than Hinata. And if you say that she is a doormat... then I wonder what does that say about Hinata. Keep in mind that you were the one who made this comment.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:32 AM

Well I sensed a good amount of posts to backfire some claims that I shouldn't get involved. Nevertheless, good job. That said I just hope Sakura gets at least one more 1v1 or same size fight before manga ends.

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:34 AM

Well I sensed a good amount of posts to backfire some claims that I shouldn't get involved. Nevertheless, good job. That said I just hope Sakura gets at least one more 1v1 or same size fight before manga ends.

 

Nothing wrong with defending your ship, or in this case, one of your favorite characters, right?



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:46 AM

 

Nothing wrong with defending your ship, or in this case, one of your favorite characters, right?

Of course not, I'm just saying you're doing a great job. All of you. That said I'm only hoping for her to get another battle or 2. Anyone think she will get one? Who(m)?



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:48 AM

To be a great woman includes compasion and wisdom. Not hitting people. Not adhering to your own path for your own benefit.

 

If this series had any logic to it, or if you were able to admit to her flaws, Sakura would be held to account on all fronts.

 

She shafted her best friend Ino, all so she could chase after Sasuke. Now people say that she did this to grow out of Ino's shadow, but are you honestly telling me there was no other alternative? But instead she just abandons her friend...the complete antithesis of everything Naruto stands for.

 

She offered to join Sasuke in abandoning the village. She didn't give any thought to her friends, or the fact that Sasuke would be going to join a traitor who had just initiated a war that threatened the very lives of everyone in the village including her 'friends and comrades'. That she might eventually be called on to fight against those very people in order to stay with Sasuke never even bothered her in the least.

 

Her 'confession' was from self-interest. She may have been trying to save Naruto, but she also failed to understand him (a common thread throughout the series) and understand that it wasn't about 'the promise' on her part anymore, but that it was Naruto's goal to bring him back for his own reasons. It's no wonder why all those other's present look at her as if they'd rather not be anywhere near her.

 

When they leave the 'confession' site, she uses her comrades to track Sasuke...and then knocks them out and leaves them vulnerable. She knows that Sasuke has joined Akatsuki, and yet she still goes ahead and leaves them unconscious and vulnerable in an unfamiliar territory in an area where a known Akatsuki member is and that there may be others nearby for all she knows. All to further serve her own selfish goals with no regard for others.

 

People use RTN to justify things because it's Kishimoto behind the wheel. But then let's not forget that Sakura uses it to fulfil her own selfish desires to live free from what she sees as her overbearing parents. And she barely gives a thought to Naruto. One of her first actions when they get back to the village in that world is to squeal 'Sasuke-kun' and begin fangirling over him. She doesn't even give Naruto a second thought.

 

As for the latest chapter, it's not just because she says 'Sasuke-kun'. It's because there's a reason to suspect that she is blushing, and secondly that both Naruto and Sasuke are performing techniques and yet the first one she focuses on is Sasuke. And completely ignores Naruto. Now surely if they've both rushed in to that situation and Sakura cares about Naruto, the first concern in her head should be about Naruto. But it isn't. She focuses completely on Sasuke. Just like she has pretty much the entire series.

 

As to why I'm posting on here. It's because when I first started on here, I would have been happy no matter what the outcome in relationships with Sakura and Naruto would have been. That and I was promised a bash-free environment...which lasted all of about 7 posts before someone opened up on Ino...and nothing was done about it.

 

Over time, I've gradually just come to realise that Sakura is just a badly done character. She has very few redeeming features, and at all the key points where Kishimoto could have redeemed her flaws...they were missed badly.

 

And to Shadow Wolf: "-The simple fact that she is a normal girl and that she has accomplished this much is more than enough proof to conclude that she is more powerful than Hinata. And if you say that she is a doormat... then I wonder what does that say about Hinata. Keep in mind that you were the one who made this comment."

 

Originally, you could have made that argument. But unlike Sakura, Hinata evolved in that manner. Or did you miss where Naruto was wallowing in self-pity and Hinata slapped him and then brought him out of his funk? That she stood up to him in a positive way? Or that Hinata was the first to have a deeper insight into Naruto's character (chapter 96), whereas Sakura never has that about Sasuke, her 'love-interest'. And I say that because Sasuke has always been her focus, re: the promise. And now that he's back in the picture and temporarily on the good side, he's her focus again. She's back to her old ways.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:56 AM

Cool story bro :zaru:

Since Chapter 632, every Sakura=useless posts became hilarious material for me. 

(Not to say, it wasn't hilarious before but meh...some people don't know how to read so.)

Thanks for the entertainment though.  

 

 

 

Anyways, what do you guys think Sakura's next attack will be? It was established her physical abilities were top tier last chapter. But I'M sure she has more up her sleeve. Genjutsu maybe? 


Edited by ramenanmitsu, 02 June 2013 - 06:01 AM.

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 06:02 AM

Clearly you don't understand slap comedy. I can tell by the way you basically Said her hitting was abusive. Since u dont understand it and probably won't listen, I'm not going to waste my time explanin it to you.

Second, the confession was to lift Naruto's burdens. Just like she wanted to do in 573 (I believe that is the chapter with her speech). She constantly worries about Naruto and Sai's words clearly prove it.

You also missed the last two panels after calling Sasuke's name and the recent translations that members here have translated that shows that she is paying just as much attention to Naruto an teasing him about the hokage position

An if Sakura is a bad character, which she is not, then that makes all the other under developed female characters like Ino, Hinata, and Ten Ten worse.

Edited by Beastbomb, 02 June 2013 - 06:03 AM.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 06:16 AM

To Beastbomb - No, because her flaws are gapingly open. She's gotten enough exposure to show just how detrimental she is to those around her. She is far more like Sasuke than she'd like to admit. And she does little to address her personal faults. Her skills? Yeah, even though it takes her over a hundred chapters to realise that she's using Naruto and Sasuke as a crutch and has no real definite or passable skill set outside of her book knowledge. At least Tenten is skilled in combat, and same with Hinata. At least Hinata is there as emotional support and to spur Naruto on, which Sakura almost never does because she shows a fundamental failure to understand either of her teammates on any level deeper than the surface and the superficial. Sakura is entirely reliant on chakra for anything to do with ninja skills. And I don't mean that in a general sense. Without her chakra, her strength is absent and her taijutsu technique is useless. If you say that for Hinata, you'd be wrong. The actual stances and techniques for the Gentle Fist are as applicable without chakra as with it as can be seen from the actual martial art it is based upon, Baghua Zhang. Even the characters who are supposed to be minor supporting characters show more emotional ties and commitments to their comrades and allies than Sakura does. They've never once given thought to following a traitor outside the village because it's what they might want.

 

Don't forget, your talking about a world where if you leave your village and have become a part of the main ninja system, they either put out a bounty on you or send Hunter Nins to take you out...because even the slightest thing you take for granted might be something that an enemy village can use against your former village, and if you have techniques there's the risk they could use them against your former village too. If Tsunade hadn't caved to holding off when it came to Sasuke, he would've been hunted by every bounty hunter or ninja in the elemental nations and would've been dead by now.

 

As for slap comedy...slap comedy is just a cry for help when you realise you have no idea on how to properly develop a character outside set constraints.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 06:27 AM

The simple fact that the ONLY person you're wailing on for working along side Sasuke at that point in time is Sakura, is just hilarious.

I guess Naruto's a sucky character too, because he seemed pretty happy and compliant that Sasuke was there.

OMG GUYS, Naruto must be a traiter!

*le gasp* I guess team 7 will be the new Akatsuki....

 

 


Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 02 June 2013 - 06:28 AM.

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                                         Pls shame me for procrastinating.  :argh: 





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