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#19081 Aizen-Sama

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Posted 02 May 2015 - 12:12 PM

"For quite sometime there was have been occasions when I think of ideas while in the tub. It's because the blood flow to my head improves and makes it easier for ideas to spring forth. However, I cannot takes note in the tub... And after I get out of the tub, before I realize it,I've ended up forgetting what those ideas inside my head were, Both my mind and body have been washed clear." 
 
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So Kishimoto gets all his master ideas in the toilet room? No wonder why they're all kitten.

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Posted 02 May 2015 - 12:34 PM

So Kishimoto gets all his master ideas in the toilet room? No wonder why they're all kitten.


I tell you its the diarrhea. Thats the culprit. Remeber his tweet or wherever he asked about it? Saying its the reason why we did not get a chapter for a week?

He became one of them. He gave in with the diarrhea and turned into shizzu. Now everything he touches becomes shizzu

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Posted 02 May 2015 - 03:31 PM

No it was just Kishimoto being an ass. You see, when Sakura finds out Hinata loves Naruto she feels sad. When Naruto sees Sakura hug Sasuke he feels sad. When Hinata sees Sakura hug Naruto?
She smiles.
When Sasuke sees Sakura & Naruto happy together?
Doesn't give a kitten.
In the end it was Sakura & Naruto who had to sacrifice their happiness not Hinata & Sasuke who were capable of moving on just fine.

 

Yeah, I know whatcha mean. And we also saw how sad Sakura was when Sai told her Naruto loves her, as well as Naruto when he made his promise to her. It is Kishimoto-sensei being an ass as you said, girl, and trying to cover his tracks.



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Posted 02 May 2015 - 03:46 PM

NaruHina and SasuSaku fans be like We become canon kittenes  :w00t:

 

 

I'm like well guess what we have all of this: tumblr_n8wfylxmV51tbu5e2o1_1280.gif

 

 

 

 

You can try to bring us down all you want NH and SS fans, but I'm like a brick wall. I won't fall down that easily no matter what BS you throw at me because it won't affect me. I maybe accept Boruto and Sarada and that's a massive maybe on their char, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be letting go of the characters that Naruto and Sakura were shaped into and the couple they were suppose to be before the bullsh** that was 699 and forward.  Their relationship was so genuine and rich one I can always remember and will always stay close to my heart. So screw you NH and SS cause even after all these months passed I'm still standing strong.  

Why would someone waste so many kittening panels developing a ship that was never meant to sail. I'm not even mad about NS not becoming canon- I'm mad that an author would take time to develop something just to mislead fans- the same fans who spent money on his fake a**.   

 

All of this should have been given to Hinata. This was supposed to be Hinata's moment. If it were, then people wouldn't have such a hard time accepting Hinata as the main love interest and the new heroine. But Hinata only had as much screentime as like..Kiba. That's what makes this so vile. 


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Posted 02 May 2015 - 05:08 PM

Why would someone waste so many kittening panels developing a ship that was never meant to sail. I'm not even mad about NS not becoming canon- I'm mad that an author would take time to develop something just to mislead fans- the same fans who spent money on his fake a**.   

 

All of this should have been given to Hinata. This was supposed to be Hinata's moment. If it were, then people wouldn't have such a hard time accepting Hinata as the main love interest and the new heroine. But Hinata only had as much screentime as like..Kiba. That's what makes this so vile. 

 

And an obvious reason why Kishimoto-sensei is talking out his ass when he claims NH was planned from the start, Pix. He thinks we all can buy it, but we got the evidence to know he's lying when he claims what he claims, considering that NS had so much development and yet he's gonna claim NH was planned simply because he didn't want to admit he made a mistake.



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Posted 02 May 2015 - 05:11 PM

 

And an obvious reason why Kishimoto-sensei is talking out his ass when he claims NH was planned from the start, Pix. He thinks we all can buy it, but we got the evidence to know he's lying when he claims what he claims, considering that NS had so much development and yet he's gonna claim NH was planned simply because he didn't want to admit he made a mistake.

Exactly. You don't plan for something to happen and then barely develop it. You just don't. 


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Posted 02 May 2015 - 05:18 PM

Exactly. You don't plan for something to happen and then barely develop it. You just don't. 

 

Pretty much. It's like claiming something wasn't done because it's cliché even when the development is there. I'm not even a pro and haven't written a fanfiction in years and that's writing 101 from my time in English class and Film Literature class when I was in high school.



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Posted 02 May 2015 - 05:46 PM

Agreed, about deveopling a pairing that is lit 101.
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Posted 02 May 2015 - 08:15 PM

I admit Tetsuya Nomura is flawed when it comes to the Kingdom Hearts storylines but he sure as hell handles it better than Kishi.

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Posted 02 May 2015 - 08:37 PM

Decided to look more into the author's note for the volumes to see Kishi was thinking: 
 
 
"For quite sometime there was have been occasions when I think of ideas while in the tub. It's because the blood flow to my head improves and makes it easier for ideas to spring forth. However, I cannot takes note in the tub... And after I get out of the tub, before I realize it,I've ended up forgetting what those ideas inside my head were, Both my mind and body have been washed clear." 
 
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This is what happens when stupid people try to act smart and write a good story..

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Posted 02 May 2015 - 09:37 PM

From the two translation I read it comes of that Oda is being really nice and complimentary to him is because they are both friends. Also there really isn't a point for Oda to rub it in Kishi face about how his series is failing. Since it's failing and the reason behind (the decision to go with that ending and The Last) are probably open secrets at Jump.

 

Honestly Sakura the only one that actually looks good. Naruto looks terrible (some time he does look ok at best) with that incredibly short hair and it only looks good in images from The Last is when he had his headband on to hide his forehead. Sasuke barely even recognizable now.

 

I think the whole ninja were going to fade out along with everything else you were wondering about was abandoned the second he realized that the spin off/sequel would be boring (not a lot of action) if the kids weren't ninjas. So Naruto accomplished nothing so his son's story could be even slightly interesting.

 

Everything shows how clearly the final pairing were decided at the last minute, and none of it was set up in the story.

 

It is obvious that kishi never really consider making either nH and ss canon until he was forced to, or really given thought to how the couples would work if he had to make them the official couples.

 

As for the excuses why NS didn't happen. Every interview it feels like they had to come up with a new reason why NS couldn't happen and why the two other pairing did happen. The reasons are obvious they are trying to find an excuse/justification for why the ending had to be this way to appease the disgruntle fans and justify the ending in their own minds. When an excuse angered those fans instead of calmed them down they tried another one.

 

Wait I thought Sasuke was going to be their team captain? Is it more about apprenticeship ie Sasuke take Bolt under his wing and Naruto does the same for Salad?

 

It was probably and mixture or coercion (this is what all your fans truly want, and you can have another story a sequel your fans will love and you can write the spin off movie) and being forced (we all already have a movie 6 books the sequel movie in production either you do this ending or fans will question why the ending corridict all this stuff/ also the editor are not letting you do a NS ending) to do it.

 

Both Sasuke and Kakashi were aloner in the group. Naruto and Sakura were needed for the group to work. Naruto interested Kakashi with his potential, and Sasuke with the brotherly/rivalry bond. While Sakura gave support where she could. Also the first half of part 2 especially the reintroduction and bell rest shows how well Naruto and Sakura work together and how close they are. 

 

From what i recall it was an excuse to try to explain away all all the MK=NS parallels. 

 

Honestly what was the point of Naruto or Kakashi becoming hokage if we don't actually see it? Sure Kakashi was a last minute thing but Naruto people have been waiting to see that since chapter one. Everything.

 

I always thought it was because Guy volunteered/requested he be put on his genin team. So as long as Lee could do all the non chakra related skill adequately he passed.

 

Seems that way.

 

nH fans hated MK=NS parallels they love nH=MK parallels. Remember all they ever care about was being right logic doesn't matter to them. They decided early on Sakura was a slut who needs to die and Hinata was a goddess who should get anything she ever wanted and nothing was going to change that.

 

Of course Hinata's boobs are bigger. Kishi finally been told why her fans love her and why they wanted her to get together with Naruto. Her gigantic breast. In the manga they were always hidden behind jackets... most of the time, the original sketch for her outfit for the Last they were cover by so jacket, and in chapter 700 they weren't that big or noticeable. But since he now know what the fans want make those thing as big and visable as possible.

 

Wait this was from the gallery show!?... This just goes to show how uninterested Japanese fans are of nH. Since none of them bothered to post this image online (but they did they SS family photo) we would know if they did since the nH fans would be bring it up in all their arguments(which they will probably start doing).

 

This image was probably drawn around the same time as the SS family photo or Sp did that other nh=MK picture. The intention behind were to suppress the MK=NS parallel. Remember one of the big reason why no one believe the ending were because of all the parallels to NS=JT/OR/MK. So to dismiss that point someone told/suggested/order kishi to probably do this image to help support the ending and the nH=MK parallels.

 

Here my comparison of the two images.

 

First off who was in charge of coloring for this new image? All the colors are dull and subdued. It help remove the lively comical effect the original image colors help add to the scene instead this one has a more dull depressing somber tone instead.

 

Room:

 Original: The original house was very vibrant and colorful had picture on the wall we can see a kitchen behind Naruto. Looks like a family lives there.

 New: Those table and chair are the most colorful thing in that room! Even they look dull in color compared to the old picture. Everything else is uniform and blank, and the window look metallic. It just make that house fell cold and lifeless.

 

Children

 Original: Since we know who Naruto is we know he in a rush to start his day so he can get one step closer to becoming Hokage. He also look more cheerful with the lighter colors.

 New: The only thing we know about Bolt is that he hate his sh*tty old man. So for all we know he's trying to escape his sh*tty family sh*tty breakfast.His hair is hiding if he has a quirked eyebrow like Naruto does in the original so i can tell if he is being playful or not or if he is angry? Also since we only seen the daughter smiling in the three images we have of her. I can't tell what she is thinking since she always has the expression. Dull surprise/"oh that's my brother"/the egg is going to fall out what!?

Parents

 Original: The upset parent kushina has her hair rise up in a comical fashion also is holding a spatula and frying pan in her hands. Her husband looks on with a nervous expression. It feels very comical and live like this is another day with the wacky Uzumakis.

 New: Naruto right arm is covered by Bolt. His expression i guess is suppose to look comical, but because the colors, his expression and everything else removes that effect entirely. hinata doesn't react to her husband at all and just has a dull surprise expression looking at Bolt.

 

The original uzumaki family

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The new uzumaki family

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I agree with everything you said.


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Posted 03 May 2015 - 02:47 AM

A good writer knows how to devlope their characters realationships around the story like for exmaple bleach in both Ichigo x Ruika or Ichigo x Orihiemie had enough moments between the two too be happy with either pairing at the ending said manga. Even though I shipped Ichigo x Rukia I am ok with the way he ends the manga because both pairings had proper deveoplement. NaruHinata nor Susake x Sakura did not have any moments between them nor was properly deveopled heck Naruto never noticed her nor did she speak to him untill they became friends. Susake x Sakura paring makes even less sense since he was shown to have never cared for her in the manga. He was emotionally abusive towards her in part one of the series, tried to kill her, and also put her in a genjustu that made it seem like he stabed her through the heart. Yup that's how you deveople a finale pairing for a story 😂.


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Posted 03 May 2015 - 03:19 AM

A good writer knows how to devlope their characters realationships around the story like for exmaple bleach in both Ichigo x Ruika or Ichigo x Orihiemie had enough moments between the two too be happy with either pairing at the ending said manga. Even though I shipped Ichigo x Rukia I was ok with the ending of the manga because both pairings had proper deveoplement and good reasons why one did not happen. NaruHinata nor Susake x Sakura did not have any moments between them nor was properly deveopled heck Naruto never noticed her nor did she speak to him untill they became friends. Susake x Sakura paring makes even less sense since he was shown to have never cared for her in the manga. He was emotionally abusive towards her in part one of the series, tried to kill her, and also put her in a genjustu that made it seem like he stabed her through the heart. Yup that's how you deveople a finale pairing for a story

 

Bleach didn't end yet though


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Posted 03 May 2015 - 03:21 AM

 
Bleach didn't end yet though

I think he means in future reference.

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Posted 03 May 2015 - 03:32 AM

I think he means in future reference.

 

then why she used past tense?


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Posted 03 May 2015 - 03:34 AM

 
then why she used past tense?

Well I did say "I think."

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Posted 03 May 2015 - 04:04 AM

Thank you rika for enlarging the images their easier to see now. Oh so he does have the same eyebrow quirk. What is the black thing behind bolt's head a door? Once again the colors for the new one help drain all the lively comical effect the original had. Also the characters feel more lifeless in the new one. in the original character are reacting to the scene in their own way. Naruto is leaving break fast with a sandwich in his mouth so he can start the day early. Kushina has an out burst because he's skipping the family breakfast. Minato is nervous about his wife outburst. Naruto turns around with the sandwich in his mouth to say something before he quickly rushes out the window. The characters are reacting to both Naruto skipping the family breakfast and kushina's outburst. New one they are only reacting to Bolt their not reacting to Naruto. Even then Hinata and the daughter feel blank and vacant dull surprise and smiling for some reason.



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Posted 03 May 2015 - 04:07 AM

 
then why she used past tense?


Stop nitpicking or ill poke yer forehead and you end up with a child that might be or might not be yours..even tho im a girl but whatever love dont need reason

And dont you dare reply logically to me you delusional ns fan
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Posted 03 May 2015 - 04:15 AM

Why would someone waste so many kittening panels developing a ship that was never meant to sail. I'm not even mad about NS not becoming canon- I'm mad that an author would take time to develop something just to mislead fans- the same fans who spent money on his fake a**.   
 
All of this should have been given to Hinata. This was supposed to be Hinata's moment. If it were, then people wouldn't have such a hard time accepting Hinata as the main love interest and the new heroine. But Hinata only had as much screentime as like..Kiba. That's what makes this so vile. 


Kishi even admits that all the possible NH moment in the manga doesnt mean kitten coz every romance related only begun in the movie alone.

Thats mocking the people who supported your work..

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Posted 03 May 2015 - 04:54 AM

Kishi even admits that all the possible NH moment in the manga doesn't mean kitten coz every romance related only begun in the movie alone.

That's mocking the people who supported your work..

Remember everyone of those excuse were an attempt to justify the ending that no one believe any way.

 

The end pairings lack positive development in the story=It was planned since the beginning

Why did Sakura get with Sasuke instead of Naruto=because she would be a terrible woman if she gave up on her love

Why did Hinata end up with Naruto= pity

Why did you have so many hints towards NS= well I thought of going with NS but nH and SS were more popular

What's with all the parallels that hint towards NS=Those were read herrings 

When did Naruto start have feeling for Hinata= ....uh... he falls in love with her in The Last

and so on. 

 

When one didn't work they just went with another one.


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