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[narusaku256]

Somehow, even I did not want Naruto to have the Rinnegan. He is better off without it. I really liked his current ability over the Rinnegan and Sasuke having the Rinnegan doesn't even harm Naruto since Naruto knows the counter to all its paths. In short, the current state Naruto is in, he can devastate Sasuke. Okay, I have to admit that susanoo was cool and it could fly but really Naruto has Lucky Seven Chomei(Seven tails) so even he can fly. Clearly, Naruto wins again Sasuke. With all his current abilities, I don't think Sasuke's abilities can stand a chance. But I doubt Kishi will portray it that way and I am sure his favouritism will come into picture. He will never portray Naruto as a clear winner, though he already is. During the VOTE fight with Sasuke, Naruto went with an intent to just scratch his headband and still Sasuke had a very very hard time dealing with him. God knows, what will come for Sasuke if Naruto goes with an intent to kill him!

[TouKen4Life3g]

At this rate, sniper can kill Sasuke. No CQC.

[luffyq1]

Somehow, even I did not want Naruto to have the Rinnegan. He is better off without it. I really liked his current ability over the Rinnegan and Sasuke having the Rinnegan doesn't even harm Naruto since Naruto knows the counter to all its paths. In short, the current state Naruto is in, he can devastate Sasuke. Okay, I have to admit that susanoo was cool and it could fly but really Naruto has Lucky Seven Chomei(Seven tails) so even he can fly. Clearly, Naruto wins again Sasuke. With all his current abilities, I don't think Sasuke's abilities can stand a chance. But I doubt Kishi will portray it that way and I am sure his favouritism will come into picture. He will never portray Naruto as a clear winner, though he already is. During the VOTE fight with Sasuke, Naruto went with an intent to just scratch his headband and still Sasuke had a very very hard time dealing with him. God knows, what will come for Sasuke if Naruto goes with an intent to kill him!

He really is the reincarnation of Indra with his goon squad huddled up in his tummy.

[Inferno180]

The deal with this whole pairing war of how people still argue NS wont come or that it died in 469, I cannot believe people even dont take into question just the fact that its only Sakura and only been Sakura whos feelings have been called into question. I dont even mean by stuff like with the 4 tails event or anything growing with Naruto, I mean as she changed in regards to Sasuke, she did to naruto as well and well it became much more positive. Yet on Sasuke, its always been a notion for the reader to see just how does sakura feel about sasuke if she really loves him? I mean we got the land of iron events, 540, 635, and now both 675 and 676, all of these chapters have moments where her feelings to him are well, explored in some light and in them, she is either negative, saddened, or they leave the reader with some amount of questioning. Yet people act like she will never change. Literally, its astonishing how people still go with this mentality and say Sakura is stuck on Sasuke forever and ever and that we should expect either naruto to change towards hinata despite no development leading there or for sasuke to go loving sakura when there are 1000s of reasons for why that cannot even happen or be even halfassed decent for it to occur.  I mean we get these scenes of Sakura in question and people honestly expect it to not change in favor of something not developed? Thats just bad writing.

 

I mean we all even have most likely seen some horrid attempt at trying to make an excuse for Sasuke trying to kill Sakura in the land of iron like he was under a genjutsu, he was acting, he was mind controlled by obito, just plain hell no, sasuke was in control of his actions 100%. He chose to strike sakura. Then there was narutos 4 tails event but naruto was under the influence of kurama, feral with rage. Thats the difference, even then Sakura never held the 4 tails event towards Naruto yet why does she hold some fear/resentment/unsureness/caution around sasuke with the land of iron events? Literally, it amazes me how people still make excuses when Sakura herself is questioning sasuke and otherwise this just makes more events showing her feelings for sasuke are in question and potentially declining. Its Sakura just maturing yet others act like its not.

[narusaku256]

He really is the reincarnation of Indra with his goon squad huddled up in his tummy.

He maybe the reincarnation of Indra, but seeing the difference between his and Naruto's abilities I really don't think Sasuke stands a chance against Naruto especially when Naruto is going with an intent to kill. His level 1 Rasengan was heck of a lot stronger than Sasuke's Chidori. And currently we are just seeing the glimpses of their power.

[luffyq1]

He maybe the reincarnation of Indra, but seeing the difference between his and Naruto's abilities I really don't think Sasuke stands a chance against Naruto especially when Naruto is going with an intent to kill. His level 1 Rasengan was heck of a lot stronger than Sasuke's Chidori. And currently we are just seeing the glimpses of their power.

I'm waiting to see all the elements of the Bijuu in one giant Rasengan.

[Nostradamus]

The deal with this whole pairing war of how people still argue NS wont come or that it died in 469, I cannot believe people even dont take into question just the fact that its only Sakura and only been Sakura whos feelings have been called into question. I dont even mean by stuff like with the 4 tails event or anything growing with Naruto, I mean as she changed in regards to Sasuke, she did to naruto as well and well it became much more positive. Yet on Sasuke, its always been a notion for the reader to see just how does sakura feel about sasuke if she really loves him? I mean we got the land of iron events, 540, 635, and now both 675 and 676, all of these chapters have moments where her feelings to him are well, explored in some light and in them, she is either negative, saddened, or they leave the reader with some amount of questioning. Yet people act like she will never change. Literally, its astonishing how people still go with this mentality and say Sakura is stuck on Sasuke forever and ever and that we should expect either naruto to change towards hinata despite no development leading there or for sasuke to go loving sakura when there are 1000s of reasons for why that cannot even happen or be even halfassed decent for it to occur.  I mean we get these scenes of Sakura in question and people honestly expect it to not change in favor of something not developed? Thats just bad writing.

 

I mean we all even have most likely seen some horrid attempt at trying to make an excuse for Sasuke trying to kill Sakura in the land of iron like he was under a genjutsu, he was acting, he was mind controlled by obito, just plain hell no, sasuke was in control of his actions 100%. He chose to strike sakura. Then there was narutos 4 tails event but naruto was under the influence of kurama, feral with rage. Thats the difference, even then Sakura never held the 4 tails event towards Naruto yet why does she hold some fear/resentment/unsureness/caution around sasuke with the land of iron events? Literally, it amazes me how people still make excuses when Sakura herself is questioning sasuke and otherwise this just makes more events showing her feelings for sasuke are in question and potentially declining. Its Sakura just maturing yet others act like its not.

You know I'll never understand half of this fandom. With the recent chapters I've seen people declaring that SS is closer and closer to becoming canon. I've always understood that people see things differently and they see what they want. But this is just stupid. We saw and still see that Sakura's feelings towards Sasuke are changing. We saw that she doesn't trust him. And fans think these moments are signs that SS will happen.

[narusaku256]

I'm waiting to see all the elements of the Bijuu in one giant Rasengan.

Which will ravage Sasuke completely and then atlast everybody will see for themselves that Naruto is stronger than Sasuke. He always was. Sasuke had trained with Itachi and that is why he had an extreme edge over others. Whereas Naruto did not train with anyone as such. But now since both of them are adept at sparring, I just want to see Naruto ravage Sasuke and everyone to watch him to do that.

[Inferno180]

You know I'll never understand half of this fandom. With the recent chapters I've seen people declaring that SS is closer and closer to becoming canon. I've always understood that people see things differently and they see what they want. But this is just stupid. We saw and still see that Sakura's feelings towards Sasuke are changing. We saw that she doesn't trust him. And fans think these moments are signs that SS will happen.

 

No its not only that, fans have become so fearful, look what they even changed on the wiki in regards to most recent events:

 

It used to say, "She sulked after Sasuke not caring about her" rather than keep it simple, they now want to try and dilute it up with bigger words like like as "Though saddened by Sasuke's nonplussed attitude initially, she was even more shocked to see that he possessed the Rinnegan."

 

Nonplussed (in regards to a person) means surprised and confused, unsure how to react. Also if informal, not disconcerted or unperturbed 

 

disconcerted meaning disturbed in ones composure, perturbed, ruffled, and confused/bewildered as by something unexpected.

 

unperturbed which simply means not concerned.

 

So yeah I had to see what these words met just now and all because they just dont simply want to say she was saddened by Sasuke not caring about her. They need to use some big word many may not know about and make them hope it says something else. Really they have no issue in saying that Sakuras confession was a lie but think that Sakura cannot be saddened by Sasuke not caring about her? Just write the damn words you know are true, Sakura is sad and all these definitions are not helping their case. So yeah, even by the english language, theres nothing on their side here, Sakura was unsure how to react to the event Sasuke just pulled otherwise its the same deal with the other definitions saying sasuke was not concerned for her, likewise with sakura disturbed in his actions and composure.

 

Seriously, I just had to look these up, I know Naruto wiki can be baised but now trying to throw in bigger words for this kitten? Its apparently too hard for people to accept that Sakura is changing. At this rate, whats happening with the SS fandom is that they are so fearful of what may be coming, they have just become more unreasonable in just knowing that Sakura is changing.

 

Its like now at a point where they are so sure of themselves like Loki from the avengers, Tony Stark basically had to tell him, "There is no outcome, no event, no way in this situation in which you win, no matter what happens you will lose and even if you defeated us, someone else will beat you." Literally its like this now because its near impossible for SS to come in the story and otherwise just no reason even validates Sasuke needing to love Sakura.

Edited by Inferno180, 20 May 2014 - 02:33 PM.

[Nostradamus]

@Inferno I don't go to the Naruto wiki page because I knew just how biased the fanbase is. I remember about 3 years ago I went there and saw that Hinata's page was bigger than Sasuke's page. And for the life of me I never understood why and how is that even possible. The page of a side character had more information that the page for a main character.

Also why can't they just write the truth in these pages, instead of using pretty words to try to sugar coat it. How hard can it be to write "Sasuke doesn't care about Sakura. And Sakura starts to see that." - simple, direct and easy to understand.

Now I'm really curious to see what they write when we'll see Naruto and Sakura together. I can already imagine the nonsense they'll come out with.

Edited by Nostradamus, 20 May 2014 - 03:10 PM.

[Angelus87]

@Inferno I don't go to the Naruto wiki page because I knew just how biased the fanbase is. I remember about 3 years ago I went there and saw that Hinata's page was bigger than Sasuke's page. And for the life of me I never understood why and how is that even possible. The page of a side character had more information that the page for a main character.

Also why can't they just write the truth in these pages, instead of using pretty words to try to sugar coat it. How hard can it be to write "Sasuke doesn't care about Sakura. And Sakura starts to see that." - simple, direct and easy to understand.

Now I'm really curious to see what they write when we'll see Naruto and Sakura together. I can already imagine the nonsense they'll come out with.

of course on viki anyone registered can edit whatever he want

[Inferno180]

Even then with the coming chapter, some people are just wanting sakura to go into the infinite dream cause they are tired of her. I dont think kishi would make it so she would just suddenly have a role with her power only to remove her from the fight with her going under the genjutsu. Even if she did, I wouldnt be surprised at this point if we see Sakura's inner world and how this future conflict with sasuke could deal with her.

 

But its just, where did things go wrong? I mean how did a fandom just skew this stuff so far off course? I mean anyone reading this series has basic reading skills, but how can they expect something to come when there is no consistent basis for it in the story? Sakuras love for sasuke was an intial trait but it was idealistic and people seriously dont believe she can change.... but hey its okay cause naruto is the only one who should change to hinata and sasuke will give sakura a chance. By god, its just kishi made scenes with sakura being the only one to leave the audience to question her feelings and well if its about sasuke, its bound to change. Yet the fandom makes this 5X harder to accept and acts like its a huge fake and that "Naruto and Sakura are still only friends and have a bro-sis relationship" I mean i dont blame people for ignoring the memory stuff of sakura towards naruto regarding his dream in 663, I only have an issue when people made a case out of the CPR (this is sadly the stuff most of the fandom focused on) when the important stuff was right below it. And the case of people later on will be 'WTF kishi why is sakura supporting naruto for hokage, you love sasuke don't you?" When Kishi himself, left so many events hinting NS, otherwise a point those events would come too, if anyone is seriously "suprised" by sakura supporting naruto in the end, even just his dream for hokage. I have no words to descrbie the stupidity of those people, not because of anything pairing related but if this fight in the end is over hokage as sasuke otherwise would want it simply because the position would allow him to achieve his goal, after seeing 663, how could anyone even think sakura would support sasuke in that sense when she has shown much more support for his dream for hokage? Oh wait its just like how kushinas foreshadow was nothing important when 631 came up, and we still have fans arguing that 631 isnt what it seems, not just a simple hint for NS. All I can say at this point is, Kishi left a lot of evidence, a whole damned lot of hints too, and if people are hoenstly "suprised" at NS in the end, there is just nothing to say to them, its like how easy does kishi need to make this? How much easier can he make hints and speculation only saying that NS can come. Its not saying it will, just that there is a lot and a lot of potential for it too come, yet people, the majority of them, still just follow what hardly exists or doesn't even exist for NH and SS.

[Nostradamus]

of course on viki anyone registered can edit whatever he want

I know. But seriously the page of a side character bigger than the page of a main character. Come on. How much bs can someone invent.

[Inferno180]

I know. But seriously the page of a side character bigger than the page of a main character. Come on. How much bs can someone invent.

 

Look at how much the fandoms have invented...

[Angelus87]

 

Look at how much the fandoms have invented...

at least NS  focus on things in manga that are real not some delusial stuff

[Don-kun]

at least NS  focus on things in manga that are real not some delusional stuff

I would not say delusion is more like NS focus on things that are close to manga or a hint that will allow you to speculate something basing on the Authors writing style and parallels that are similar to Naruto and Sakura story, but the other side is more about special desires that are far from the Manga reality and a big example will be who is going to procreate Sasuke future children is not Sakura while forgetting or ignoring that Sasuke made it clear that he wanted to restore his clan honor not have sons.

So there you have it, one group is close to manga and the other group already made up their mind on what is going to happen despite many evidence that goes against that believe.

Edited by Don-kun, 20 May 2014 - 03:46 PM.

[Angelus87]

I would not say delusion is more like NS focus on things that are close to manga or a hint that will allow you to speculate something basing on the Authors writing style and parallels that are similar to Naruto and Sakura story, but the other side is more about special desires that are far from the Manga reality and a big example will be who is going to procreate Sasuke future children is not Sakura while forgetting or ignoring that Sasuke made it clear that he wanted to restore his clan honor not have sons.

So there you have it, one group is close to manga and the other group already made up their mind on what is going to happen despite many evidence that goes against that believe.

Maby you are right but those most active are those who dont use proofs from manga but their own way of thinking that. Kishi should do that or that....

[Gojira]

How would you guys like to see NS become canon?

[Angelus87]

How would you guys like to see NS become canon?

hard question. Well i think it should happen before Naruto vs Sasuke fight that would proof that Sakura did pick Naruto because of who he s and not because he did win and become hokage. Details i will leave to Kishi

Edited by Angelus87, 20 May 2014 - 04:11 PM.

[Syn11]

Hello, everyone! )

 

I'm back from "outer space".

 

The last chapter was a blast. There are no Russian fans who believe in SS, besides few relict shippers whose fantasies have little or nothing in common with canon. Sasuke doesn't love Sakura, never had and never will. Kishimoto practically stated that as a concrete fact. Our bad boy is totally indifferent towards the heroine. Null sentiments, not even friendly concern. He's like a grave for Sakura: cold and dead. No prospects in the future. Those who have at least some sympathy for Sakura should not wish such kind of destiny for her.    

 

You can find more people still supporting NaruHina. But they are quite passive and always floating in their lalaland. Besides, those just love Hinata. Naruto's feeling are the last thing on their mind.

 

That is why in my local fandom NS is mostly bashed by narusasu followers, and, believe me, those can be scary.

 

As for me, I don't see why Sakura would simply disregard Sasuke. Obviously, he's someone who had a great impact on her identity development. You just don't throw a chunk of your history out of the window. Many of us still experience feelings of anxiety when dealing with the first love, preserving memories for decades. Even if those feelings are far from what they used to be, you can't just erase them and sometimes have to suffer from the occasional phantom pain. It's only natural.