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#1881 mone_

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:27 AM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Jan 2 2013, 02:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly so shouldn't we be praising her for ONCE instead of always criticizing her?


We're NS fans are illogical and stupid, so I guess it's excusable that we do not see the greatness that is Hinata.

(I'm joking, just in case)

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:28 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jan 2 2013, 04:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well that's what hinata is for her love for naruto is practically her whole character. (not trying to be mean....just saying)

if she shows up in the manga, it will almost always have naruto there, cause thats her character.

and if she isn't around naruto, she's thinking about naruto.


she kinda reminds me of orihime, she thinks about ichigo alot too......but she's a little less shy and thinks about others like her tomboy friend also.

thats probably the reason I don't like hinata, cause every time she shows up it's about naruto and I don't like naruhina...XD so it feels like theres no shipping breather around her....(that doesn't make any sense...)

WHAT I MEAN IS....I just want to like hinata for hinata.......and not feel like my ship is constantly threatened by her appearance in the manga.....(which it feels like because all she's about is naruto)!


and people think that makes her selfless and deserving for naruto.....but thats all she thinks about so of course people will think that!! i cant remember the last time she worried about kiba....or shino....or neji....

sakura worries about others AND naruto.

whew :3 that was long for me...

Hinata as a character will always remain the same which is revolving about Naruto. We need to live with it as long as she is in the manga.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:29 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 1 2013, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just expected her to be out of that fangirling stage after that "epic" speech. But she proved me wrong big time. And as for Sakura, well Kishi just took a dump on her to make room for Hinata. The excuse that Sakura is going to eventually have her moment to shine is tiresome and annoying. She's much more important than Hinata, yet the fandom has to be reduced to piggy back riding off of Hinata because by their logic if Hinata is getting all this development, then certainly Sakura must have something in store.

Pathetic, don't you think?

Well she's in love, what did you expect? It's not like she was jumping up and down with joy. She thought that to herself and it was for one panel and got ready to get back into the fight with Naruto. As for Sakura, I completely agree. I really don't have much hope. It's a sad day when the only thing you hope for Sakura is to fight the Juubi or be Naruto's girlfriend. One will never happen and the other one just makes her a pairing fodder.
QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 1 2013, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know what you're trying to say. But to me the only thing that matters to Hinata is being with Naruto. She's like" oh Neji's dead okay I'm fine with that because I'm next to Naruto-kun, I don't care if we're fighting those two bad guys I don't even know who they are because I'm with Naruto-kun, it doesn't matter if we're in the middle of a war I'm with Naruto-kun and it doesn't matter the fate of the world is at stake here I'm holding Naruto-kun's hand yay!"


Come on now, you know you're over exaggerating this to the extreme.
QUOTE (mone_ @ Jan 1 2013, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We're NS fans are illogical and stupid, so I guess it's excusable that we do not see the greatness that is Hinata.

(I'm joking, just in case)
You will see! Just watch when Hinata takes down the Juubi and Madara with one attack! Your stupid fanbase will be forced to bow down to Queen Hinata! MWUAHAHAHAHAHA

Edited by HalfStarStudios, 02 January 2013 - 12:31 AM.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:31 AM

About Naruto's symbolic hold Neji's hand, I think it's pretty much that what happened. look:



the way it was drawing practically shows that. It really seems that he was about to hold someone's hand and also the Juubi was drawing in the background on one of the panels to show that Juubi will be crushed. yes this panel was drawn to demonstrate that too, Just like that NH fan specified in her/his review. And it also adds more meaning to Neji's death, it shows that Naruto will not forget hi, / letting his memory go ... what he did for him, his sacrifice.

in short:

first two panels: pretty much symbolize that Naruto raised his hand to hold someone's hand.
two last panels: seems like he's holding tight that "invisible hand" and in the background kishi added the Juubi to symbolize that he will be crushed/defeated as well.

Srsly call me delusional if you want but don't matter how much I look at that scene, I just can see it in that way, even the editor's note makes more sense now!



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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:32 AM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Jan 1 2013, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hinata: My cousin died? I'm in war? Our HQ was just destroyed? The strongest man alive(who took out our 5 leaders) and his trusty insane sidekick are currently killing all of us with their insanely power beast who hasn't even reached his peak of power yet? Who cares?! Naruto held my hand! Aiiiiii!!!

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Seriously though, don't you think you guys are being a little hard on Hinata?


Sorry. I've been a hardcore Hinata hater for a long time now. It just sorta comes naturally for me. sweatdrop.gif
But no, I do believe Hinata deserves every negative word given to her because of this chapter.

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 1 2013, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hinata's confidence only occurs during dire situations. The fight with Neji, her confession, the war. I mean her confidence is like a roller-coaster. Keep that kitten steady and not have Naruto as a necessity for it. It's just plain sad.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:33 AM

QUOTE (Moon_Girl @ Jan 1 2013, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry. I've been a hardcore Hinata hater for a long time now. It just sorta comes naturally for me. sweatdrop.gif
But no, I do believe Hinata deserves every negative word given to her because of this chapter.

I guess I just try not to be biased.
Read my above posts if you really think that. She does not deserve most of the hate she's getting. I mean, she does deserve to get some but people are going overboard.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:34 AM

Lets be honest. A large reason for the Hinata hate right now is because she's proving herself a threat. I don't believe in covering up the reason for the bashing of her character (which is whats going on right now).




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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:34 AM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Jan 2 2013, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well she's in love, what did you expect? It's not like she was jumping up and down with joy. She thought that to herself and it was for one panel and got ready to get back into the fight with Naruto. As for Sakura, I completely agree. I really don't have much hope. It's a sad day when the only thing you hope for Sakura is to fight the Juubi or be Naruto's girlfriend. One will never happen and the other one just makes her a pairing fodder.


Come on now, you know you're over exaggerating this to the extreme.
You will see! Just watch when Hinata takes down the Juubi and Madara with one attack! Your stupid fanbase will be forced to bow down to Queen Hinata! MWUAHAHAHAHAHA

and heres the catch, Kishi originally created Sakura just as Naruto's love interest.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:37 AM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Jan 1 2013, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
About Naruto's symbolic hold Neji's hand, I think it's pretty much that what happened. look:



the way it was drawing practically shows that. It really seems that he was about to hold someone's hand and also the Juubi was drawing in the background on one of the panels to show that Juubi will be crushed. yes this panel was drawn to demonstrate that too, Just like that NH fan specified in her/his review. And it also adds more meaning to Neji's death, it shows that Naruto will not forget hi, / letting his memory go ... what he did for him, his sacrifice.

in short:

first two panels: pretty much symbolize that Naruto raised his hand to hold someone's hand.
two last panels: seems like he's holding tight that "invisible hand" and in the background kishi added the Juubi to symbolize that he will be crushed/defeated as well.

Srsly call me delusional if you want but don't matter how much I look at that scene, I just can see it in that way, even the editor's note makes more sense now!



It does make sense! Very subtle move, if its true then Naruto is theoretically helping Hinata avenge Neji. Which proves Naruto is thinking nothing romantic at this point in time.




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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:37 AM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Jan 1 2013, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lets be honest. A large reason for the Hinata hate right now is because she's proving herself a threat. I don't believe in covering up the reason for the bashing of her character (which is whats going on right now).
I'm gonna have to agree with this. While I do see her as a threat, I'm not gonna hate her because of that. It's silly and would make me no better than most of the NaruHina fans.


QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Jan 1 2013, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and heres the catch, Kishi originally created Sakura just as Naruto's love interest.

Lol that's sad. What's even worse? He made her Sasuke's fangirl for most of Part 1.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:38 AM

Well I don't hate Hinata but I don't understand the fanbase at all though. She's cute and all, but when did she ever did something incredible fighting and development wise. Yeah, we got the confession but minus anime, even that gets ignored in Japan. Funny how no one interviewed Kishi about Hinata and Naruto's status since part 2 started. She lost all of her fights and never won one. Not only that but they were never boss fight. Sakura has a tie and a victory. There are losses but that's besides the point. The point is that she has done so much and hell, her fight with Sasori got me in love with her. Not to mention it is my top 5 best fight in the series. I can read/watch all day because in terms of non powerhouse person, she's a true underdog. But oh well, last arc with side characters, let's get this over with.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:38 AM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Jan 2 2013, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well she's in love, what did you expect? It's not like she was jumping up and down with joy. She thought that to herself and it was for one panel and got ready to get back into the fight with Naruto. As for Sakura, I completely agree. I really don't have much hope. It's a sad day when the only thing you hope for Sakura is to fight the Juubi or be Naruto's girlfriend. One will never happen and the other one just makes her a pairing fodder.


In my opinion, her comment about Naruto's hand ruined the very mood that she herself has setup. Seriously, she's looking at her potential killers and she starts thinking about Naruto's big manly hands. She's in love, I get it. You can think about starting a family after you survive the war. Her love has been emphasized enough as it is. Come on now...

Edited by luffyq1, 02 January 2013 - 12:39 AM.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:39 AM

i just really want sakura to get into action or help and get some panel time like she should.......she's the heroine...

it's like that time when naruto, sasuke, and sakura weren't in the manga for a while...it felt boring to me.

there are still some things revolving around sakura for her to get development

1) tsunade (she's probably not gonna make it= sakura development)

2) team 7 stuff after the war (she can fight one of sasuke's henchmen XD ya know who they are)

and hopefully

3) rin comparison stuff.......(we SHOULD have started getting it like chapters ago..but its still possible)


i just hope....HOPE!! that hinata will be done and over with by next chapter....PLZ KISHI!! PLZ!!! sakura doesn't even have to show up right after her.....give some time to.....Lee.......or......kiba...or something....T^T

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:40 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 2 2013, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I don't hate Hinata but I don't understand the fanbase at all though. She's cute and all, but when did she ever did something incredible fighting and development wise. Yeah, we got the confession but minus anime, even that gets ignored in Japan. Funny how no one interviewed Kishi about Hinata and Naruto's status since part 2 started. She lost all of her fights and never won one. Not only that but they were never boss fight. Sakura has a tie and a victory. There are losses but that's besides the point. The point is that she has done so much and hell, her fight with Sasori got me in love with her. Not to mention it is my top 5 best fight in the series. I can read/watch all day because in terms of non powerhouse person, she's a true underdog. But oh well, last arc with side characters, let's get this over with.

If anything, I feel like this is her best development and she should be getting more fans from this chapter. The fact that she can actually talk to Naruto without fainting means character development, and character development at this point in the arc means she's been dealt with and can now be put to the side.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:40 AM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Jan 1 2013, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess I just try not to be biased.
Read my above posts if you really think that. She does not deserve most of the hate she's getting. I mean, she does deserve to get some but people are going overboard.


I actually like her speech to Naruto proving she has gotten over her shy shell, that's positive Hinata development. But it doesn't change her only purpose is resolve around Naruto, everything she does it's because of him it makes her selfish. Be honest with me if Naruto didn't existed you think she will be fighting in the war, or even decided to become a ninja for the matter?
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:41 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 1 2013, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In my opinion, her comment about Naruto's hand ruined the very mood that she herself has setup. Seriously, she's looking at her potential killers and she starts thinking about Naruto's big manly hands. She's in love, I get it. You can think about starting a family after you survive the war. Her love has been emphasized enough as it is. Come on now...

It's one panel dude. lol Plus she thought about his hand then got ready to fight against the Juubi with Naruto. It's not like how you guys are making it sound like:

Hinata: ERRMAHGAWD, Naruto-Kun held my hand! We're gonna get married and make kids with ugly eyes! Wait, what's the thing in front of us? Oh! Who cares, love love love!!!

When it was just this:

Hinata:*epic speech* *Naruto holds her hand* His hand is so big and strong *Gets ready to get back into the fight with Naruto*

Let's try to keep the biased down to a minimum guys, ok?
QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 1 2013, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I actually like her speech to Naruto proving she has gotten over her shy shell, that's positive Hinata development. But it doesn't change her only purpose is resolve around Naruto, everything she does it's because of him it makes her selfish. Be honest with me if Naruto didn't existed you think she will be fighting in the war, or even decided to become a ninja for the matter?

Yes because she still wants to prove to her dad that she isn't the failure he thought she was. Btw, if Naruto didn't exist then there wouldn't be a war. wink.gif

Edited by HalfStarStudios, 02 January 2013 - 12:43 AM.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:42 AM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Jan 2 2013, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's one panel dude. lol Plus she thought about his hand then got ready to fight against the Juubi with Naruto. It's not like how you guys are making it sound like:

Hinata: ERRMAHGAWD, Naruto-Kun held my hand! We're gonna get married and make kids with ugly eyes! Wait, what's the thing in front of us? Oh! Who cares, love love love!!!

When it was just this:

Hinata:*epic speech* *Naruto holds her hand* His hand is so big and strong *Gets ready to get back into the fight with Naruto*

Let's try to keep the biased down to a minimum guys, ok?

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:43 AM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Jan 2 2013, 04:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
About Naruto's symbolic hold Neji's hand, I think it's pretty much that what happened. look:



the way it was drawing practically shows that. It really seems that he was about to hold someone's hand and also the Juubi was drawing in the background on one of the panels to show that Juubi will be crushed. yes this panel was drawn to demonstrate that too, Just like that NH fan specified in her/his review. And it also adds more meaning to Neji's death, it shows that Naruto will not forget hi, / letting his memory go ... what he did for him, his sacrifice.

in short:

first two panels: pretty much symbolize that Naruto raised his hand to hold someone's hand.
two last panels: seems like he's holding tight that "invisible hand" and in the background kishi added the Juubi to symbolize that he will be crushed/defeated as well.

Srsly call me delusional if you want but don't matter how much I look at that scene, I just can see it in that way, even the editor's note makes more sense now!

Not throwing the possibility of the symbolic hold away, but probably the free hand showed in the three panels shows how Naruto is closing his fist to the Juubi's figure which means going to take the Juubi down.

The symbolic hand is somewhat over thinking.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:43 AM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Jan 1 2013, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lets be honest. A large reason for the Hinata hate right now is because she's proving herself a threat. I don't believe in covering up the reason for the bashing of her character (which is whats going on right now).


In all honesty, no. I started hating her in early part 2 when she wasn't even considered a threat. I believe her character is just really crappy and poorly written. sleep.gif
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:43 AM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 2 2013, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not throwing the possibility of the symbolic hold away, but probably the free hand showed in the three panels shows how Naruto is closing his fist to the Juubi's figure which means going to take the Juubi down.

The symbolic hand is somewhat over thinking.

Like i said, Kishi leaves open many interpretations.

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