
The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread
#18961
Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:40 AM
#18962
Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:42 AM
This is something I've been thinking about since the release of the chapter. While I said before that this could be development for Sakura to get over Sasuke (and I still think it can), do you believe that Kishi would resolve her feelings by showing that Sasuke doesn't care in the least? From a storytelling perspective that seems somewhat flawed, as it would leave Sasuke's character in a negative light. He still needs to accept all of team 7 at some point, and if he doesn't have just basic care for her well being by the end, that would be an issue.
Imo its more appropriate for Sakura to change her mind based on the fact that he doesn't reciprocate romantically. Not because she means absolutely nothing to him. Sasuke still needs to recognize her as a teammate/friend for the story to come full circle. If that makes sense.
Which is something Sakura wanted from Sasuke since chapter 3. Acknowledgement.
Edited by NaruSakuishere, 20 May 2014 - 12:44 AM.
#18963
Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:43 AM
@Gravenimage and @Angelus87 I know it's not gonna happen that soon, but everything is building up to that moment. I don't know if she will realize it in the genjutsu, on the battle field with Naruto and Sasuke, or some other way. But it's coming and when the bomb is finally dropped, the internet might explode. Maybe.
@Azurewaters That does make sense, but I wonder how Kishi would present that. I can't imagine all of T7 sitting down and having a heart-to-heart conversation.
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#18964
Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:46 AM
@Azurewaters That does make sense, but I wonder how Kishi would present that. I can't imagine all of T7 sitting down and having a heart-to-heart conversation.
If that were to happen it will feel forced and lame. T7 ain't as deep as Kishi makes it out to be. Now I can picture NaruSaiSaku sitting down and talking, but inserting Sasuke would feel so off and weird.
Edited by luffyq1, 20 May 2014 - 12:46 AM.
#18965
Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:56 AM
If that were to happen it will feel forced and lame. T7 ain't as deep as Kishi makes it out to be. Now I can picture NaruSaiSaku sitting down and talking, but inserting Sasuke would feel so off and weird.
Agreed. I always kinda found it sad that the most important team of the show, was never really close to each other. Naruto and Sasuke were close only because they both knew loneliness, but it was not like they ever hung out outside of training. Sakura and Naruto were kinda close after the chunin exams, but really got close in part two when Sasuke was not around. Sakura and Sasuke were never/will never be close. So I honestly can't picture much of a T7 future that involves Sasuke, but who knows Kishi might pull some half baked reason on why Sasuke suddenly respects Sakura before the series ends.
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#18966
Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:58 AM
Agreed. I always kinda found it sad that the most important team of the show, was never really close to each other. Naruto and Sasuke were close only because they both knew loneliness, but it was not like they ever hung out outside of training. Sakura and Naruto were kinda close after the chunin exams, but really got close in part two when Sasuke was not around. Sakura and Sasuke were never/will never be close. So I honestly can't picture much of a T7 future that involves Sasuke, but who knows Kishi might pull some half baked reason on why Sasuke suddenly respects Sakura before the series ends.
So true. From murder attempts to respect.
Edited by luffyq1, 20 May 2014 - 12:58 AM.
#18967
Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:14 AM
So true. From murder attempts to respect.
It would possibly go down as one of his biggest @sspulls in history.
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#18968
Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:23 AM
One way you can do is to have Sakura comes to the conclusion that Sasuke doesn't really need to come back, just stop doing evil deeds. In short, stick to your team, Sasuke. We're cool. But who knows.
#18969
Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:35 AM
This whole other forneverworld video, the thing I cannot stand is him still thinking Hinata is somehow a glorious character in spite of how she manages to accomplish an astounding nothing and kishi doesnt even place her in any critical or important situations.
But hey, this is the same dimwit who honestly was "suprised" at 631, the same dimwit who thought 615 was the end no questions asked, the same double standard type of moron who believes Hinata is somehow that paragon once in a lifetime character that has no flaws, yet she has no real importance in the story, kishi hasn't fleshed her out to what she could be, many of her great moments are either unresolved or not given the intention the fans wanted (615 at this point to me was more about neji than hinata with naruto because how many times beyond have we seen stuff relating to nejis death rather than hinata holding narutos hand? Definitely more on neji). This is the same guy who goes, "Oh Hinata so flawless with your chest and effort to face pain." Yet he is part of the same crew who don't give sakura any room because she went up against the most powerful guy in the series who everyone knew she wouldnt be able to do much alone. But oh wait, its sakura cause its ok to bash her. His video, its nothing more than an excuse for him to say how pissed he is because hinata is out of the picture for now and he is angry she isnt around for action. Likewise he is angry because NS is also becoming a higher possibility. I mean he made a video called is sakura's character development bad back when 631 came out, he was fearful of NS, he is nothing but a shallow basher. This is why I don't call him a reviewer, he is nothing but a basher. He is a naruto fan first but nothing but a sakura basher, NH brown-nose fan second whenever its something involving one of the girls, he always praises hinata and if its sakura, criticize her and compare her to hinata who hasn't done that, cannot do that, or how he wishes she would do that.
Only reason people follow him? Sakura bashing, because thats why a great legion of the masses of naruto fans are otherwise stupid in their hate for her when they cannot even bother to take the time to try to understand her and they just jump right on the hate bandwagon because its always easier to hate something and dismiss it rather than try to understand it, but hey, if he is like that mass of the audinece that just bashes and dismisses sakura, he is going to be lost and then say why did kishi do this when the time comes, because apparently only being used every 50 to 100+ chapters makes you super important when being in the story often doesn't count. But yeah, this is why I don't follow that turd. I only ever watch his videos to see his pitiful excuses when some NS related event comes and he just acts like "its nothing" when we get this stuff with hinata just being out of it for long periods of time and then its somehow the biggest most critical thing to the story, but hey he is among those that believe killing hinata would impact the story, she didnt impact the story back in pain, even if kishi was cruel to kill her off now, it still wouldn't garner much impact to the story. Thats something NH fans always hate to hear, because its true. If kishi cannot even find time to use her when he had opportunity too, what is keeping her from having a simple token fodder role if NH was seriously going to come? Nothing! All that can remain that is salvagable for hinata is just resolution to her clan and in regards to how naruto feels about sakura, seriously at this point its going to be a no duh hinata wishes the best/is happy for him if it goes NS, yet many act like this will crush her little heart when it wont. How can people expect this stuff when she isn't that complex to begin with? If she isn't a complex character, complex events wont be necessary for her. Yet people like forneverworld treat it as that.
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#18970
Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:47 AM
@Inferno yeah Fornever is a total double standards fan boy. He talks all about Sakura's bad character development, when it took Hinata 400 chapters to be able to speak to Naruto without fainting. But you know, when NS becomes canon or when Sakura gets a moment in the future, he will be one of the first "reviewers" I go to, to just see how he tries to downplays or deny it.
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#18971
Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:50 AM
It would possibly go down as one of his biggest @sspulls in history.
Likely most crappy pair in history in terms of reality. Sakura should have understand till now that Sasuke right know s worse then before he left village.
One way you can do is to have Sakura comes to the conclusion that Sasuke doesn't really need to come back, just stop doing evil deeds. In short, stick to your team, Sasuke. We're cool. But who knows.
Well Kakashi said that Sakura s kind girl and she want save him from darkness. Sound like she dont want someone she cared by so evil or bad that everyone will hate him.
#18972
Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:54 AM
To be honest I haven't watched a single from foreverworld or forneverworld or whateverworld from start to finish. I always stop the video and start laughing. I once watched on of his review of one of the filler episodes, the one where Neji helps Hinata because she couldn't see anymore. And within 30 seconds he said that every man needs a strong woman like Hinata, and when I heard that I literally fell off my chair laughing.
Edited by Nostradamus, 20 May 2014 - 01:58 AM.
Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.
#18973
Posted 20 May 2014 - 02:23 AM
Yeah I'm so made that I want to do a Hinata rant on youtube to shut up them NH fans,
what did he say cuz i don't wanna have to listen to his sakura ranting crap
#18974
Posted 20 May 2014 - 03:13 AM
Do you guys think we'll see Sakrua's parents make an appearance in the manga?
Regardless I just hope we see an NS family seen at some part in the manga....then will completely think this ship worked out perfectly...anything less and I'll be disappointed
#18975
Posted 20 May 2014 - 04:47 AM
To be honest I haven't watched a single from foreverworld or forneverworld or whateverworld from start to finish. I always stop the video and start laughing. I once watched on of his review of one of the filler episodes, the one where Neji helps Hinata because she couldn't see anymore. And within 30 seconds he said that every man needs a strong woman like Hinata, and when I heard that I literally fell off my chair laughing.
i watched his most recent vid and it can be summed up in 5 words *hinata fanboy level over 9000* lol seriously and right after he said day 1 sakura i was thinking ok thats it then i posted a comment saying well if your putting it that way then hinata should let naruto go
#18976
Posted 20 May 2014 - 04:56 AM
Just got back from seeing Amazing Spiderman 2. Kishi was right, it's totally worth it to see it in 3D.
I did like the interactions between Peter and Gwen, although they don't really remind me of Naruto and Sakura like some have mentioned. To me they're just their own characters. Personally I'm more curious about how they'll introduce Mary Jane for the next film.
Edited by redragon88, 20 May 2014 - 04:58 AM.
#18977
Posted 20 May 2014 - 04:57 AM
@Inferno yeah Fornever is a total double standards fan boy. He talks all about Sakura's bad character development, when it took Hinata 400 chapters to be able to speak to Naruto without fainting. But you know, when NS becomes canon or when Sakura gets a moment in the future, he will be one of the first "reviewers" I go to, to just see how he tries to downplays or deny it.
oh yes redrose like when he called sakura krusty ass for helping save naruto from death he just isn't man enough to admit that kishi can troll him at times sawyer has that same problem but anyway im done bashing fornever for now i do respect the guy but his sakura hate is ridiculous and pathetic
#18978
Posted 20 May 2014 - 05:08 AM
Just got back from seeing Amazing Spiderman 2. Kishi was right, it's totally worth it to see it in 3D.
Spiderman spoilers
I did like the interactions between Peter and Gwen, although they don't really remind me of Naruto and Sakura like some have mentioned. To me they're just their own characters. Personally I'm more curious about how they'll introduce Mary Jane for the next film.
yeah andrew and emma were the best part of the film and how do they remind anyone of ns oh well i guess its how other fans think but yeah him and her perfect chemistry and its funny that you bring up that comic cuz im meeting the writer who wrote it in 2 weeks im gonna ask him if he ever regrets killing her btw wanna know why he killed her
#18979
Posted 20 May 2014 - 05:39 AM
yeah andrew and emma were the best part of the film and how do they remind anyone of ns oh well i guess its how other fans think but yeah him and her perfect chemistry and its funny that you bring up that comic cuz im meeting the writer who wrote it in 2 weeks im gonna ask him if he ever regrets killing her btw wanna know why he killed her
Edited by redragon88, 20 May 2014 - 05:40 AM.
#18980
Posted 20 May 2014 - 05:59 AM
Spidey Spoilers
because they didn't know what to do at the time there hands were tied and could only see peter and gwen's relationship leading to marriage which is something they didn't wanna do back then so thats why they killed her
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