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#18901 Bryon_Konoha_Ninja

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 08:15 AM

I mainly stopped posting cause I literally had next to no time for myself and the time I did have I didn't want to devote to basically stating the same thing over and over again *haha

 

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 05:35 PM

Honestly, it was made extremely clear that Naruto was very similar to Jiraya and Obito in every way including love.

 

-I mean in his last moments remembered how Tsunade rejected him which is sad cause she was willing to give him a chance if he came back alive.

- Obito's Relationship with Kakashi and Rin is identical to Naruto with team 7.  Obito started his dark path cause of Rin and Naruto effing teared up when he saw his past and especially the moment when Rin died. Naruto's expression is filled with hate but can't help but shed a tear (awesome moment). He was in love with sakura cause she was similar to him (wanting to be acknowledged). This is far from being a superficial love and I don't see what his rivalry with Sasuke has anything to do with. Naruto was shown to be very mature for his age considering he gets along well with kids and is a great influence.

 

Eff sake Rin was also extremely supportive of Obito's dream of being hokage. Its pretty damn serious and not on a whim. The parallels are everywhere.


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Posted 01 January 2015 - 06:05 PM

Honestly, it was made extremely clear that Naruto was very similar to Jiraya and Obito in every way including love.

 

-I mean in his last moments remembered how Tsunade rejected him which is sad cause she was willing to give him a chance if he came back alive.

- Obito's Relationship with Kakashi and Rin is identical to Naruto with team 7.  Obito started his dark path cause of Rin and Naruto effing teared up when he saw his past and especially the moment when Rin died. Naruto's expression is filled with hate but can't help but shed a tear (awesome moment). He was in love with sakura cause she was similar to him (wanting to be acknowledged). This is far from being a superficial love and I don't see what his rivalry with Sasuke has anything to do with. Naruto was shown to be very mature for his age considering he gets along well with kids and is a great influence.

 

Eff sake Rin was also extremely supportive of Obito's dream of being hokage. Its pretty damn serious and not on a whim. The parallels are everywhere.

We should feel honored Kishi decided to spend his time fooling us... it resulted in poor transitions for the "true" pairings he had planned for years


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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:59 PM

We should feel honored Kishi decided to spend his time fooling us... it resulted in poor transitions for the "true" pairings he had planned for years

 

And how crappy of a writer he can be. X-P



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Posted 01 January 2015 - 08:11 PM

It feels more like an asspull. Naruto was always a simple and straight forward character. In other words, he is incapable of being dishonest. The whole "sakura" is a cup for his rivalry for Sasuke is an anthithesis to his character which was defined as simple and honest. Naruto followed  simple story telling like a super hero or comic book film. Mr plinkett would have probably advised him to follow that formula considering that he is writing mainly for a 13 to 15 years old teenagers. In other words, you are not writing evangelion, metal gear and inception... you keep it simple and fun ! One piece manages to do what Kishi is failing by developing concepts as slavery and making the solution and morals simple because Luffy knows what's right and gets it done.

 

I guess that's why he is called "the worst scumbag" in Japan because he saw sakura only as a prize when he is clearly not the kind to have a trophy wife.



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Posted 02 January 2015 - 05:17 AM

The Last has surpassed RTN in the box office. Meh. Honestly if it wasn't successful I don't think America would be getting it. especially subtitled. We (never) rarely get this stuff. I don't think this has ever happened with Naruto before.


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 06:28 AM

Source please
Also according to wiki RtN made about 17mil

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 07:23 AM

the animation of the last is so good!

if only the plot was good ..
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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:38 PM

It feels more like an asspull. Naruto was always a simple and straight forward character. In other words, he is incapable of being dishonest. The whole "sakura" is a cup for his rivalry for Sasuke is an anthithesis to his character which was defined as simple and honest. Naruto followed  simple story telling like a super hero or comic book film. Mr plinkett would have probably advised him to follow that formula considering that he is writing mainly for a 13 to 15 years old teenagers. In other words, you are not writing evangelion, metal gear and inception... you keep it simple and fun ! One piece manages to do what Kishi is failing by developing concepts as slavery and making the solution and morals simple because Luffy knows what's right and gets it done.

 

I guess that's why he is called "the worst scumbag" in Japan because he saw sakura only as a prize when he is clearly not the kind to have a trophy wife.

I am surprised that they never took into consideration the fans who were there since the beginning and actually grew up since the manga started. You know? The fans that start out 15 years ago and are 15 years older now?

Did he think that those kind of fans would remain stupid for so long?


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:42 PM

I am surprised that they never took into consideration the fans who were there since the beginning and actually grew up since the manga started. You know? The fans that start out 15 years ago and are 15 years older now?

Did he think that those kind of fans would remain stupid for so long?

 

You're not going to believe what was just posted in one of the topics. A rumoured interview with Kishi that is very, very damning that tries to invalidate everything about NaruSaku one step further. I just hope to God that it's not true.

 

Edit: It's the compilation topic.


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 05:03 PM

 

You're not going to believe what was just posted in one of the topics. A rumoured interview with Kishi that is very, very damning that tries to invalidate everything about NaruSaku one step further. I just hope to God that it's not true.

 

Edit: It's the compilation topic.

 

Its fake.


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 05:24 PM

 

Its fake.

 

Like so many of us knew. X-D Musta been some NH fan trying to piss us off,



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Posted 02 January 2015 - 06:30 PM

Seriously why do they come up with fake interviews? Their pairings won they should be happy and celebrating their victory. Unless they know we're right of Kishimoto screwing up the manga making those pairings without any development. The hardcore NH/SS fans know we're right and instead of taking their anger on the author they used it on the losers the NS fandom.


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 06:37 PM

The Last: Naruto the Movie has made¥1.29billion (US$10.7 million) after three weekends.
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But this was as of 24th Dec. No update on filmbiz after that(at least that I could find)

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Posted 03 January 2015 - 01:32 AM

It feels more like an asspull. Naruto was always a simple and straight forward character. In other words, he is incapable of being dishonest. The whole "sakura" is a cup for his rivalry for Sasuke is an anthithesis to his character which was defined as simple and honest. Naruto followed  simple story telling like a super hero or comic book film. Mr plinkett would have probably advised him to follow that formula considering that he is writing mainly for a 13 to 15 years old teenagers. In other words, you are not writing evangelion, metal gear and inception... you keep it simple and fun ! One piece manages to do what Kishi is failing by developing concepts as slavery and making the solution and morals simple because Luffy knows what's right and gets it done.
 
I guess that's why he is called "the worst scumbag" in Japan because he saw sakura only as a prize when he is clearly not the kind to have a trophy wife.


Yeah they had to tarnish Naruto's integrity as a good guy to make NH happen.
Now everyone who watches the show and sees Naruto trying to win over Sakura is going to point and say: "He's only trying to get a one-up off Sasuke." "He only sees her as a prize" Etc.

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Posted 03 January 2015 - 05:09 AM

The Last has surpassed RTN in the box office. Meh. Honestly if it wasn't successful I don't think America would be getting it. especially subtitled. We (never) rarely get this stuff. I don't think this has ever happened with Naruto before.

Naruto Clash in the Land of Snow was dubbed in US theaters for one special night (or maybe it was 2) and then Road to Ninja also was shown in theaters just last August. So it's not that uncommon 


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Posted 03 January 2015 - 10:36 AM

Just because a movie is successful doesn't mean it's good. Doesn't this movie mostly get negative reception?

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Posted 03 January 2015 - 10:39 AM

Just because a movie is successful doesn't mean it's good. Doesn't this movie mostly get negative reception?


On YJ and a few more websites, yes. But the film has been gaining an average to above average score on others.

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Posted 03 January 2015 - 10:44 AM

On YJ and a few more websites, yes. But the film has been gaining an average to above average score on others.

Would you say that the film has more accurate reviews from the average/above average sites?

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Posted 03 January 2015 - 11:02 AM

Would you say that the film has more accurate reviews from the average/above average sites?


I can't say for sure since I haven't read any of the reviews. Although from what I know of the film's contents and its open season killing of the manga, it would be generous to give the film a mediocre rating, and that's looking at the film as a standalone with much of what praise being earned coming from the more technical aspects of the film like animation quality instead of the plot or characters.




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