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[TouKen4Life3g]

Isshin and Masaki but that's about it. Even though I have a preferred ship, I still don't expect any of them to become canon. 

...I feel like I should say something about it but spoiler. It's...funny when you said that.

Edit: Whoops, I got the wrong couple.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 19 May 2014 - 06:47 PM.

[narusaku256]

@Luffyq1 I don't watch Bleach and I am just aware of the plot and Ichigo's background

@4Life Care to share with us what you want to say?

[Nostradamus]

"i want her to realize"...


Anyway, you doesnt prove your point that her love for Naruto is not romantic because Kishi portrays it as it is.
It doesn matter what the foundations are but how it's portraited, you're bringing the foundations of Hinata's love and telling me it's not romantic and wanting her to realize it.
(Wanting to sacrifice your own life for someome you love twice doesnt make sense with someome who has some admiration towards Naruto)

I dont see how this disregards what she feels for Naruto as romantic.

"You're missing the fact that she pursues Naruto romantically, she confessed her love for him, later tried to sacrifice her life twice and most importantly desired to be at his side romantically speaking off on the chapter "path to radiance".

Most important this logic can be applied to Sakura when it comes to her love, Kishi portrays it as romantic love but we all know that she has only a chidish crush and doesnt have strong foundations.
Rock Lee also loves Sakura romantically speaking off which is show recently when he goes jealous when Sakura confesses to Naruto.
It's still romantic love."

Why do you always have to do that? Why do you always have to find a way to make someones argument irrelevant? Or disregard a chunk of it.

The simple fact of the matter is this. We saw that Hinata's feelings towards Naruto are not romantic. However through her confession we saw that she believes she is in love with Naruto romantically. Throughout this entire manga there is absolutely nothing to suggest that her feelings for Naruto are romantic. It's just fans misinterpreting moments combined with the anime team creating filler moments to make us believe that Hinata's love for Naruto is real. Taking her confession and her constant "Naruto-kun" and the famous "I also want to stay by Naruto-kun's side" as proof that she loves him romantically. But again I say this she doesn't love him romantically. Naruto is the one that encouraged her to do her best and since Naruto is the one that inspired her, she ended up projecting feelings towards Naruto. She's a confused girl. 

Also when I said "I want her to realize" I was referring to her realizing that she doesn't know what she's talking about. That she's mistaken her feelings and hopefully comes to the realization that she's just inspired by Naruto. That she's not really in love with the boy.

Also it seems you're mistaken romantic love with attraction. You can be attracted to another guy/girl but that doesn't mean you're romantically in love with that guy or girl.

[luffyq1]

@Luffyq1 I don't watch Bleach and I am just aware of the plot and Ichigo's background

@4Life Care to share with us what you want to say?

That's Ichigo's mommy & daddy. They're not really a mystery but I still should have spoiler tag.

 

my bad 

[rikakim94]

Referring to my last post heres what kns has said and credits to him.

 

 

_{In the days since I first posted my moderate rant about this chapter, I have reached the conclusion that for Naruto to act / think / say anything else would be out of character.  He's not complex.  He's a simple, black-and-white kind of guy.  If he doesn't believe Sasuke is his true enemy, then he believes Sasuke is his true friend.}

 

 

_{Sigh.  The very quality that has made Naruto endearing in his love for Sakura -- the quiet, steadfast true love and support from a distance -- is the same quality that causes heartburn when it is directed toward Sasuke.  But that's Naruto's soul in action.  He's pretty much all or nothing. (Sorry NH fans, but it's true.     )}

 

 

_{It's the same with Sakura.  He loves her absolutely, and in a way that matters more to him than whether she loves him.  Of course he wishes she did, as we saw very clearly in #469, but believing she loved Sasuke never changed his heart where she was concerned.}

 

Last but not least :

 

 ^{I must accept that such a thing is not Naruto's way.  He's a sacrificial person, and one who truly believes in love and friendship}

Edited by rikakim94, 19 May 2014 - 07:02 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Why do you always have to do that? Why do you always have to find a way to make someones argument irrelevant? Or disregard a chunk of it.
The simple fact of the matter is this. We saw that Hinata's feelings towards Naruto are not romantic.

I see the opposite.
 

However through her confession we saw that she believes she is in love with Naruto romantically. Throughout this entire manga there is absolutely nothing to suggest that her feelings for Naruto are romantic.

Part 1 would be true but since after the Pain arc and manly her confession i dont see it.
 

It's just fans misinterpreting moments combined with the anime team creating filler moments to make us believe that Hinata's love for Naruto is real. Taking her confession and her constant "Naruto-kun" and the famous "I also want to stay by Naruto-kun's side" as proof that she loves him romantically.
But again I say this she doesn't love him romantically.

What??
Filler team has nothing to do with actual manga.
I never used those two quotes as proof that she loves him romantically, i used how the scene where she was willing to sacrifice her life on the pain arc and she stating the world love, and later when she does it again, and thoughout that arc on the "path to radiance" where all the friends states they will fight together and she brings romantic conontations to her wish.
 

Naruto is the one that encouraged her to do her best and since Naruto is the one that inspired her, she ended up projecting feelings towards Naruto. She's a confused girl. 
Also when I said "I want her to realize" I was referring to her realizing that she doesn't know what she's talking about. That she's mistaken her feelings and hopefully comes to the realization that she's just inspired by Naruto. That she's not really in love with the boy.

So you're judging who's in love with romantically based on your personal preferences and not how Kishimoto presents it?
I dont give a damn why she loves Naruto as long as the manga itself portrays it as love.
I've seen pathetic foundations being portraited as love like Sakura and Lee.
 

Also it seems you're mistaken romantic love with attraction. You can be attracted to another guy/girl but that doesn't mean you're romantically in love with that guy or girl.

Kishimoto didnt showed attraction love on the manga, his words are clear with "suki" on Sakura's case, and as for Hinata we have those moments.
i'm not mistaing love for attraction because it doesnt "exist" on the series.
Unless you're talking about Lee but again it's portraited as love.

#Sidenote.
I've seen this type of gag with Hinata's case but however she went too far with this "infatuation" that i dont think it cant be mistaken as anything else other than romantic love.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 May 2014 - 07:06 PM.

[luffyq1]

 

Referring to my last post heres what kns has said and credits to him.

 

 

In the days since I first posted my moderate rant about this chapter, I have reached the conclusion that for Naruto to act / think / say anything else would be out of character.  He's not complex.  He's a simple, black-and-white kind of guy.  If he doesn't believe Sasuke is his true enemy, then he believes Sasuke is his true friend.

 

 

 

Sigh.  The very quality that has made Naruto endearing in his love for Sakura -- the quiet, steadfast true love and support from a distance -- is the same quality that causes heartburn when it is directed toward Sasuke.  But that's Naruto's soul in action.  He's pretty much all or nothing. (Sorry NH fans, but it's true.     )

 

 

It's the same with Sakura.  He loves her absolutely, and in a way that matters more to him than whether she loves him.  Of course he wishes she did, as we saw very clearly in #469, but believing she loved Sasuke never changed his heart where she was concerned.

 

I wish he was stripped of that one trait so that he can let go of Sasuke and have less drama in his life. And yes, I'm well aware of the implications that'll put NS in. I can live with that.

[narusaku256]

That's Ichigo's mommy & daddy. They're not really a mystery but I still should have spoiler tag.
 
my bad 

Ah no. That's alright . I have an idea about them, but I don't know the black and white stuff about Bleach

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I wish he was stripped of that one trait so that he can let go of Sasuke and have less drama in his life. And yes, I'm well aware of the implications that'll put NS in. I can live with that.

Agreed but i think it's the only thing that does make sense.
Naruto was never capable to see Sakura's devotion towards him he was always fainted, and to make matters worse he witnessed all the SS moments aside from her confession on which if he saw that he would be completely heartbroken.
It makes sense for him to think like that after seeing that.

I always thought that Sakura doing a confession would never be enough.

[Sakura~]

Hello! I'm a new memebr I get a lot of bashing from other forums if I talked about NaruSaku or Sakura in general, so I decided to come here and talk to you guys! my NaruSaku friends. I need someone to give me hope to never give up in NaruSaku. 

 

Now.. I'll talk about the latest chapter. Sakura was AMAZING. I can't understand all the Sakura bashing :/. No matter what she does people will always try to belittle her character -.-  Unlike her teammates, she doesn't possess Hagoromo's chakra. They were all fighting with roughly the same destructive capacity against the Juubi clones. I don't belive it was Kishi's intention to belittle Sakura. Now her worrying about Sasuke not thinking about her in the middle of battle was ........

Edited by Sakura~, 19 May 2014 - 07:15 PM.

[Angelus87]

^Nostradamus and Darkrerst^ should both calm down. No one s stupid to use fillers in anime to say something based on assumption. We should all focus on manga that s always true plot. Hinata loved Naruto in pain arc that s for sure. She did throw her life to try save him, no one can deny that. In ninja war i think Hinata was not so clear, she did declare only that Naruto s immportant for her.

 

Agreed but i think it's the only thing that does make sense.
Naruto was never capable to see Sakura's devotion towards him he was always fainted, and to make matters worse he witnessed all the SS moments aside from her confession on which if he saw that he would be completely heartbroken.
It makes sense for him to think like that after seeing that.

I always thought that Sakura doing a confession would never be enough.

Well in part 1 of manga Sakura have bigger chance with Sasuke then now i think in terms of feelings. Now in Sasuke ideology there s no space for Sakura so her confession that time have more possibility.

 

Ah no. That's alright . I have an idea about them, but I don't know the black and white stuff about Bleach

In Bleach i have one pair i know never will happen. It was captain 2div Soi-Fon with Urahara Kisuke. There was one gaiden with them and i loved that part

Hello! I'm a new memebr I get a lot of bashing from other forums if I talked about NaruSaku or Sakura in general, so I decided to come here and talk to you guys! my NaruSaku friends. I need someone to give me hope to never give up in NaruSaku. 

 

Now.. I'll talk about the latest chapter. Sakura was AMAZING. I can't understand all the Sakura bashing :/. No matter what she does people will always try to belittle her character -.-  Unlike her teammates, she doesn't possess Hagoromo's chakra. They were all fighting with roughly the same destructive capacity against the Juubi clones. I don't belive it was Kishi's intention to belittle Sakura. Now her worrying about Sasuke not thinking about her in the middle of battle was ........

Welcome warmly Fact that you root for NS  and didnt give up s enough. And more hope need NH and SS because they cant be saved

Edited by Angelus87, 19 May 2014 - 07:21 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

@4Life Care to share with us what you want to say?

Well I got the wrong characters altogether. So yeah, whoops.

That's Ichigo's mommy & daddy. They're not really a mystery but I still should have spoiler tag.
 
my bad 

Oh no. I got the wrong people. It's more like I want to say something funny but wrong people all around. So sorry for that.

[Nostradamus]

I see the opposite.

 

Well sorry but you're in the part of the fandom that misinterprets moments.

 

Part 1 would be true but since after the Pain arc and manly her confession i dont see it.

 

Again misinterpreting moments.
 

What??
Filler team has nothing to do with actual manga.
I never used those two quotes as proof that she loves him romantically, i used how the scene where she was willing to sacrifice her life on the pain arc and she stating the world love, and later when she does it again, and thoughout that arc on the "path to radiance" where all the friends states they will fight together and she brings romantic conontations to her wish.

 

I was referring to the fandom. That's why I said fans. And the anime team even though it has nothing to do with the manga it can influence people and it did. And her speech from 573 can be interpreted in multiple ways, however if analyze her entire speech you'll see that's she just wants to "walking by his side as an equal".
 

So you're judging who's in love with romantically based on your personal preferences and not how Kishimoto presents it?
I dont give a damn why she loves Naruto as long as the manga itself portrays it as love.
I've seen pathetic foundations being portraited as love like Sakura and Lee.

 

No, I'm not judging it by my own interpretation, I just go by what the writer well writes. Hinata's love towards Naruto is love. But it's a admiration love.
 

 

Kishimoto didnt showed attraction love on the manga, his words are clear with "suki" on Sakura's case, and as for Hinata we have those moments.
i'm not mistaing love for attraction because it doesnt "exist" on the series.
Unless you're talking about Lee but again it's portraited as love.

 

I don't even know how to respond to this one.

#Sidenote.
I've seen this type of gag with Hinata's case but however she went too far with this "infatuation" that i dont think it cant be mistaken as anything else other than romantic love.

 

One small advice. Don't take things at face value.

Also let's agree to disagree because yet again this is literally going nowhere.

Edited by Nostradamus, 19 May 2014 - 07:39 PM.

[narusaku256]

Hello! I'm a new memebr I get a lot of bashing from other forums if I talked about NaruSaku or Sakura in general, so I decided to come here and talk to you guys! my NaruSaku friends. I need someone to give me hope to never give up in NaruSaku. 
 
Now.. I'll talk about the latest chapter. Sakura was AMAZING. I can't understand all the Sakura bashing :/. No matter what she does people will always try to belittle her character -.-  Unlike her teammates, she doesn't possess Hagoromo's chakra. They were all fighting with roughly the same destructive capacity against the Juubi clones. I don't belive it was Kishi's intention to belittle Sakura. Now her worrying about Sasuke not thinking about her in the middle of battle was ........

Hey Sakura! First of all, welcome to H & E . Disregard all the bashing and stuff you got on other forums because that certainly won't be an experience here . Feel free to discuss anything about NS .

Yes! Indeed, Sakura was amazing this chapter. However 'Haters gonna hate'. No matter what Sakura does they'd still find flaws in that. But you can just brush those opinions off, since that's more or less what we all do . Sakura was totally badass this chapter especially since she doesn't have SO6P's chakra. Though I wish she gets more action and panel time. Though many of the people even here are irked about her sudden revelation which she supposedly got long back, its a bit puzzling though.

@Angelus As I said, I don't know much about Bleach
XD.

[TrueSacrifice]

@rikakim94

 

You may be right about her having tunnel vision but I'm not so sure. 

 

In Hinata's defense she may not have even seen Sakura there, and even if she did, Tsunade was right next to her. Tsunade is known for her legendary healing skills and Hinata has barely interacted with Sakura so she should probably have asked Tsunade to save him if anything. Honestly it would have been kind of weird for Hinata to pray for Sakura to save Naruto. The only characters Hinata has had meaningful interaction with other than Naruto is Neji so it made more sense for her to pray to him.

 

I wasn't trying to suggest that Hinata supports NaruSaku in my last post or anything like that, just that her romantic aspirations for Naruto aren't as critical to her character as some make it out to be. She's never made any declarations to become Naruto's wife or had thoughts about getting him to return her romantic feelings. She wants to be strong like him. Her love for Naruto is just a part of her character not her character's sole purpose.

 

To be honest NaruHina has never really bothered me all that much and I've even seen most of the anime including the infamous filler episodes. In general I see NH as cute but not really that serious. It's a shame that so many prefer it over NS though even with it's serious lack of meaningful development. If Naruto's love aspect was simply a throwaway subplot I wouldn't mind NH as is but that clearly isn't the case. Oh well different strokes I guess.

 

[Gojira]

With bleach I'm surprised there's a war still going on.

Kubo said himself Rukia was more like a bro-friend than a girlfriend to Ichigo so that only really leaves Orihime who like NS strongly resembles Ichigo's mother. Though from what I remember Kubo said something about not giving a crap about any of his own romantic subplots so its about 50/50.

Anyway getting back to NS. Anyone else notice that in RTN and RTC it implies Menma and RTN Sakura is in a relationship (or atleast are more than simple friends) which is implied by Ino and Minato

Edited by Pepsi, 19 May 2014 - 07:59 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Anyway getting back to NS. Anyone else notice that in RTN and RTC it implies Menma and RTN Sakura is in a relationship (or atleast are more than simple friends) which is implied by Ino and Minato

No, i dont know ino says this but she implies that AU!Sakura likes Menma but it's implied that maybe Menma doesnt feel the same for Sakura.
Quite like the current NS but the opposite.
On the AU!world it's Sakura who's the main character not Naruto.

Ino wishes for AU!Sakura and menma get together.

[Dalton.T.R]

Hello! I'm a new memebr I get a lot of bashing from other forums if I talked about NaruSaku or Sakura in general, so I decided to come here and talk to you guys! my NaruSaku friends. I need someone to give me hope to never give up in NaruSaku. 

 

Now.. I'll talk about the latest chapter. Sakura was AMAZING. I can't understand all the Sakura bashing :/. No matter what she does people will always try to belittle her character -.-  Unlike her teammates, she doesn't possess Hagoromo's chakra. They were all fighting with roughly the same destructive capacity against the Juubi clones. I don't belive it was Kishi's intention to belittle Sakura. Now her worrying about Sasuke not thinking about her in the middle of battle was ........

Welcome to H&E. I'm surprised at how many new people we're getting lately.

[Sakura~]

Thanks all 

 

 

I'll scream if NaruHina happened. Funny because I used to be a Naruhina fan, but it was only a phase to be honest lol

 

 I have  a question: Do you think Naruto  got over Sakura? of course the haters are saying that he did.

 

In my opinion, there is NO proof that Naruto is over Sakura. Kishi wasn't just messing around when he literally drew Sai telling her that, and we know that he's not the kind of person who changes his mind and feelings easily. 

Edited by Sakura~, 19 May 2014 - 08:24 PM.

[narusaku256]

Thanks all 
 
 
I'll scream if NaruHina happened. Funny because I used to be a Naruhina fan, but it was only a phase to be honest lol
 
 I have  a question: Do you think Naruto  got over Sakura? of course the haters are saying that he did.
 
In my opinion, there is NO proof that Naruto is over Sakura. Kishi wasn't just messing around when he literally drew Sai telling her that, and we know that he's not the kind of person who changes his mind and feelings easily. 

Well, 631 did speak about his emotions for Sakura, right?