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[PhenixElite]

If there's an image, could you please use another source? I can't see mangareader stuff. That said what are you implying?

Its the manga page where sai bandages naruto after karui beat him up and naruto tell him that he doesnt want sakura to know about it so she doesnt have to be worried.
I think he wants to say that sakura isnt the only one who hides things from naruto. Naruto does the same.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Its the manga page where sai bandages naruto after karui beat him up and naruto tell him that he doesnt want sakura to know about it so she doesnt have to be worried.
I think he wants to say that sakura isnt the only one who hides things from naruto. Naruto does the same.

Oh yeah, that's so true. They don't want each other to worry. Heck, in the movie, Sakura didn't tell Naruto let's go home in the fence scene, because it's either breaking his heart or breaking his dream. I really hope for interaction soon. This is just way too hard to ignore. How can you dismiss this as potential romance? Yeah, let's go with someone who only witness walk to darkness, and a guy who never reconsidered love in his life, only brotherhood. Sorry, but I can't take this crap anymore.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 05 May 2013 - 12:59 PM.

[PhenixElite]

Oh yeah, that's so true. They don't want each other to worry. Heck, in the movie, Sakura didn't tell Naruto let's go home in the fence scene, because it's either breaking his heart or breaking his dream. I really hope for interaction soon. This is just way too hard to ignore. How can you dismiss this as potential romance? Yeah, let's go with someone who only witness walk to darkness, and a guy who never reconsidered love in his life, only brotherhood. Sorry, but I can't take this crap anymore.

Well those are few of the reason why im not really worried about anything thats going to happen in upcoming chapters, especially not the SS part so many people are complaining about.
Im pretty sure about the outcome and till that point im just enjoying the ride. I just dont see any reason to worry about stuff that if it happens would ruin characters and parts of the story. Its just not logical for me why kishi would go out of his concept he had for 600 chapters now, just to make another couple canon.

So no worries or problems on my part.

Edited by PhenixElite, 05 May 2013 - 01:11 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well those are few of the reason why im not really worried about anything thats going to happen in upcoming chapters, especially not the SS part so many people are complaining about.
Im pretty sure about the outcome and till that point im just enjoying the ride. I just dont see any reason to worry about stuff that if it happens would ruin characters and parts of the story. Its just not logical for me why kishi would go out of his concept he had for 600 chapters now, just to make another couple canon.

So no worries or problems on my part.

Yeah, I know and I'm with you. It's just maybe because we are the most bashed people around and while we can ignore them, it's still annoying. Oh well, I can't do anything. This arc gone on far too long and when things becomes like back then, then my excitement level will go up. I appreciated for what he has done in this arc, but it's just go on forever and Naruto still hasn't really hit the point that everything will be just fine. You know, how a good guy get one resolve that will make him. Well, that hasn't happened yet. So in a way, that volume was truly for fans of K9. So now, the focus should be more clear as a lot of guys might be out and the battle is entering the final phase or at least the most important part of the battle. I guess the next chapter really holds a lot because it's chapter2 in the volume and that could tell us what is the focus of this volume. So yeah, I'm just waiting.

[Inferno180]

I wonder how many people would go crazy happy if this happened next chapter:

If this in a sense came, it would also be the ultimate troll moment to the NH fans who thought Hinata would be the one fighting directly beside him.

There is just too much NaruSaku stuff to dump for NH, people expect just Hinata to get a free and easy pass despite Sakura's fake confession and the recent events with Hinata in 615.
-Funny thing is, then this just makes NH all the weaker if it did happen. Nothing complex, nothing of merit. Its just too convenient for Hinata's character being so minimal in the story for any real impact, even both of her moments, just very short and immediately passed, she would literally become just a fodder pairing character. Worse, on Naruto's part, he feels unworthy of Sakura, 3 bad things result from this if he actually got over her, 1. He would have given up harming his character, 2. He would have failed Sakura losing also part his nindo and devotion, 3. This would literally make him settle for Hinata out of pity, he feels unworthy of Sakura so how could he feel worthy of anyone? Thats the sad thing here.

With the new chapters on again this week, hopefully things go forward with how we like. I would not mind the Kakashi vs Obito conflict either, this one should be excellent. If Kishi really is focused on what he said going from Sasuke, to Kakashi, to Sakura then that would be neat. If he really is doing focus on the main characters. Still nothing worrying right now, NS is still green.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If this in a sense came, it would also be the ultimate troll moment to the NH fans who thought Hinata would be the one fighting directly beside him.

There is just too much NaruSaku stuff to dump for NH, people expect just Hinata to get a free and easy pass despite Sakura's fake confession and the recent events with Hinata in 615.
-Funny thing is, then this just makes NH all the weaker if it did happen. Nothing complex, nothing of merit. Its just too convenient for Hinata's character being so minimal in the story for any real impact, even both of her moments, just very short and immediately passed, she would literally become just a fodder pairing character. Worse, on Naruto's part, he feels unworthy of Sakura, 3 bad things result from this if he actually got over her, 1. He would have given up harming his character, 2. He would have failed Sakura losing also part his nindo and devotion, 3. This would literally make him settle for Hinata out of pity, he feels unworthy of Sakura so how could he feel worthy of anyone? Thats the sad thing here.

With the new chapters on again this week, hopefully things go forward with how we like. I would not mind the Kakashi vs Obito conflict either, this one should be excellent. If Kishi really is focused on what he said going from Sasuke, to Kakashi, to Sakura then that would be neat. If he really is doing focus on the main characters. Still nothing worrying right now, NS is still green.

Well said.

I don't know about you guys, but I always feel that SS happening means Naruto lost to Sasuke. I mean Sasuke got everything, even his love interest. So wouldn't be best if Naruto bested him in everything? He is his rival. Oh well. I know Sakura is not a trophy but lack of better wordings, you should know what I mean.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 05 May 2013 - 01:30 PM.

[Inferno180]

Well said.

I don't know about you guys, but I always feel that SS happening means Naruto lost to Sasuke. I mean Sasuke got everything, even his love interest. So wouldn't be best if Naruto bested him in everything? He is his rival. Oh well. I know Sakura is not a trophy but lack of better wordings, you should know what I mean.

Well the thing is, hating Sakura is more or less just a fad, the sad truth is the majority of the entire Naruto fanbase, they don't understand or even look at the other side. Most of us at least look at Hinata, we know about her character, what she does, and her overall importance. It does hurt to say to them at times, there is a difference between the anime and the manga but it does not always sink in. The main point is, people who hate Sakura just tend to follow the mob mentality without even trying to understand her character, even in events like the confession, they miss the purpose. In truth the fake confession left many people confused and never gave a clear answer, it could still come back, but if anything its kinda obvious what Sai said, Sakura was doing it all for Naruto's sake to make amends and save him from a potential death path. Even Sai said Sakura was not to fully blame and that it was also his own fault for pushing Sakura there. Yet most just bypass this claiming NS died. It does not add up like that just to have a moment for Sakura to try and do something for Naruto's benefit at the cost of her own and kill a pairing there giving NH a free opening, does not work like that. Yet many feel this is how it happened. Even then, if anything is clear to me its this, "Naruto is the type of guy to forgive and forget, he would not hold it against Sakura, he may have been somewhat angry and confused at first but after hearing Sai, I really could not imagine him like that. Even then this is Sakura, of all people do they honestly expect him to give up on her? Maybe only if he gave up on Sasuke, but Sasuke is first, Sakura is second in terms of those he would never give up on, Hinata is farther back beyond a few others, she cannot just get a sudden priority like others said. Many still don't get that Sasuke is naruto's goal for hokage and Sakura. Sakura is his secondary goal, to confess due to achieving Sasuke or letting her come to him on her own free will. Even then when has Hinata ever been of importance besides a mere friend to Naruto? Naruto has no goals involving Hinata, his goals involve Sakura, Sasuke, his parents, the kage, Jiriaya, Nagato, the tailed beasts, and others. Hinata cannot just insert herself way into all of this, espcially Sasuke. For 2 characters who never had any contact or screentime, only occupying the same room at the most, what do NH fans expect to happen when Naruto v. Sasuke comes? Hinata somehow standing there and understanding all that is at stake for Naruto? Or the one actually on team 7 who knows the dynamics and herself who is caught between both of their well-beings, Sakura? Does Hinata know how Sasuke is to naruto? Does she know what he may have to face like Sakura does? Sakura knows Naruto may die or have to make an impossible choice if things come to that, despite his change in attitude, they are still going to fight. Hinata knows nothing involving Sasuke, this is the biggest flaw to NH, Hinata has nothing in the way of Sasuke and how important he is to Naruto and Sakura. Only if they can ever answer this question would I be willing to give NH more credit, but the story design just never had it, Hinata is nowhere near Sasuke or associated so as far as the main plot is concerned, she is far out of the loop.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

If this in a sense came, it would also be the ultimate troll moment to the NH fans who thought Hinata would be the one fighting directly beside him.

There is just too much NaruSaku stuff to dump for NH, people expect just Hinata to get a free and easy pass despite Sakura's fake confession and the recent events with Hinata in 615.
-Funny thing is, then this just makes NH all the weaker if it did happen. Nothing complex, nothing of merit. Its just too convenient for Hinata's character being so minimal in the story for any real impact, even both of her moments, just very short and immediately passed, she would literally become just a fodder pairing character. Worse, on Naruto's part, he feels unworthy of Sakura, 3 bad things result from this if he actually got over her, 1. He would have given up harming his character, 2. He would have failed Sakura losing also part his nindo and devotion, 3. This would literally make him settle for Hinata out of pity, he feels unworthy of Sakura so how could he feel worthy of anyone? Thats the sad thing here.

With the new chapters on again this week, hopefully things go forward with how we like. I would not mind the Kakashi vs Obito conflict either, this one should be excellent. If Kishi really is focused on what he said going from Sasuke, to Kakashi, to Sakura then that would be neat. If he really is doing focus on the main characters. Still nothing worrying right now, NS is still green.

o you really think they care about Naruto's character, even that guy editor of SJ alpha english when he said about NaruHina it was just an huge picture of Hinata and a small rant just about Hinata's character.
They only care is if She ends up with Naruto or not even if it ends because of pity.

Sadly is also the same problem with Sakura's character when she felt unworth of Naruto because it was stupid how can she feel unworthy of Naruto but still has feelings for Sasuke doesnt her think that Sasuke is unworthy of her, unless if she thinks that she's on the same level of Sasuke(as a bad person).

This whole unworthy thing is so bad as an excuse on this Love Triangle stuff.

Small chat.

Naruto - how can i confess my love to her if i even cant keep our promise.
Sai - Yeah, but Sasuke is whorthy of her dont you think? He tried to kill her two times and only brought Pain to her.
Naruto - but we did a promise and i could not keep it how can i make her happy if i cant keep a promise.
Sai - Just die Naruto

Naruto - Sakura i dont feel worthy of you because i could not keep our promise.
Sakura - Naruto i was a burden to you i dont deserve you.
Sai - Are you guys trolling right?

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 05 May 2013 - 02:37 PM.

[Inferno180]

o you really think they care about Naruto's character, even that guy editor of SJ alpha english when he said about NaruHina it was just an huge picture of Hinata and a small rant just about Hinata's character.
They only care is if She ends up with Naruto or not even if it ends because of pity.

Sadly is also the same problem with Sakura's character when she felt unworth of Naruto because it was stupid how can she feel unworthy of Naruto but still has feelings for Sasuke doesnt her think that Sasuke is unworthy of her, unless if she thinks that she's on the same level of Sasuke(as a bad person).

This whole unworthy thing is so bad as an excuse on this Love Triangle stuff.

Small chat.

Naruto - how can i confess my love to her if i even cant keep our promise.
Sai - Yeah, but Sasuke is whorthy of her dont you think? He tried to kill her two times and only brought Pain to her.
Naruto - but we did a promise and i could not keep it how can i make her happy if i cant keep a promise.
Sai - Just die Naruto

Naruto - Sakura i dont feel worthy of you because i could not keep our promise.
Sakura - Naruto i was a burden to you i dont deserve you.
Sai - Are you guys trolling right?

Some who want NH or SS just want it for their own preference with no regard to the story or design of the characters, that is true. Just the whole unworthiness thing can be undone simply by more development, I mean its for nothing more than simple drama if anything for NS. They just get some acceptance or whatever for each other beyond their built relationship already, I mean something like this could arise before the final fight. All the love triangle has become is just dragged on for far too long, maybe kishi just trying his hand with a lot of drama between Naruto and Sakura before they interact again? Still a way to prolong this stuff while focusing on the main action.

[redragon88]

With the new chapters on again this week, hopefully things go forward with how we like. I would not mind the Kakashi vs Obito conflict either, this one should be excellent. If Kishi really is focused on what he said going from Sasuke, to Kakashi, to Sakura then that would be neat. If he really is doing focus on the main characters. Still nothing worrying right now, NS is still green.

I'm also interested in Kakashi vs Obito because I really want to know the mystery behind Rin's death at Kakashi's hands. I just can't figure what it could possibly be. Kakashi clearly killed he by his own choice, the Mist nins were desperate to retrieve her body and there's that thing about experiments. Way too many mysteries.

I'm hoping that all of this is related to the aftermath of Obito's "death" in some way. Like maybe Rin cooperated with the Mist nins in order to get revenge on the Rock nin that killed Obito, but in the end the mist did something bad to Rin's body that forced Kakashi to mercy kill her.

About Kishi regarding his talk about Sakura, I was under the impression that when Kishi said he would write about Sakura he was referring to the events of the Summit considering that interview came out sometime before the Pain invasion began. What makes matters worst is that Kishi said Sakura slipped his mind in the interview of over a year ago. Although maybe he was just referring to the development of the 2012 year. I really don't know.

Still, since Kishi did write about Sakura in the Summit arc I don't know how valid we can take that statement currently.

[StrikerTheNoble]

I'm also interested in Kakashi vs Obito because I really want to know the mystery behind Rin's death at Kakashi's hands. I just can't figure what it could possibly be. Kakashi clearly killed he by his own choice, the Mist nins were desperate to retrieve her body and there's that thing about experiments. Way too many mysteries.

I'm hoping that all of this is related to the aftermath of Obito's "death" in some way. Like maybe Rin cooperated with the Mist nins in order to get revenge on the Rock nin that killed Obito, but in the end the mist did something bad to Rin's body that forced Kakashi to mercy kill her.

About Kishi regarding his talk about Sakura, I was under the impression that when Kishi said he would write about Sakura he was referring to the events of the Summit considering that interview came out sometime before the Pain invasion began. What makes matters worst is that Kishi said Sakura slipped his mind in the interview of over a year ago. Although maybe he was just referring to the development of the 2012 year. I really don't know.

Still, since Kishi did write about Sakura in the Summit arc I don't know how valid we can take that statement currently.

Kishi like to troll. He does it in the manga but he loves to do it in the interviews. One does not simply say: hey don`t I have a heroine, slash pairing to develop?

[Inferno180]

I'm also interested in Kakashi vs Obito because I really want to know the mystery behind Rin's death at Kakashi's hands. I just can't figure what it could possibly be. Kakashi clearly killed he by his own choice, the Mist nins were desperate to retrieve her body and there's that thing about experiments. Way too many mysteries.

I'm hoping that all of this is related to the aftermath of Obito's "death" in some way. Like maybe Rin cooperated with the Mist nins in order to get revenge on the Rock nin that killed Obito, but in the end the mist did something bad to Rin's body that forced Kakashi to mercy kill her.

About Kishi regarding his talk about Sakura, I was under the impression that when Kishi said he would write about Sakura he was referring to the events of the Summit considering that interview came out sometime before the Pain invasion began. What makes matters worst is that Kishi said Sakura slipped his mind in the interview of over a year ago. Although maybe he was just referring to the development of the 2012 year. I really don't know.

Still, since Kishi did write about Sakura in the Summit arc I don't know how valid we can take that statement currently.

I get the feeling that maybe Rin wanted to die at Kakashi's hands, it could have been to protect the village. Not sure. I just hope that the revelation is not something to make Obito go, "Thats it?.... wow I just wasted 17 years of my life in seeking revenge and bringing the end of the world. Wow okay kakashi, maybe I got a little to carried away... um, sorry for everything? Maybe I should have waited a little to see why you did it when it had purpose?"

It better not be anything to have just made everything Obito did just a simple misunderstanding.

As for Sakura, well remember chap 628 proves she is still around and long as team 7 still has a story, Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke, and Kakashi still have more development to come.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I get the feeling that maybe Rin wanted to die at Kakashi's hands, it could have been to protect the village. Not sure. I just hope that the revelation is not something to make Obito go, "Thats it?.... wow I just wasted 17 years of my life in seeking revenge and bringing the end of the world. Wow okay kakashi, maybe I got a little to carried away... um, sorry for everything? Maybe I should have waited a little to see why you did it when it had purpose?"

It better not be anything to have just made everything Obito did just a simple misunderstanding.

As for Sakura, well remember chap 628 proves she is still around and long as team 7 still has a story, Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke, and Kakashi still have more development to come.

I htink they were after her, Madara knew about Obito's desire to protect his friends and since he was controlling Kirigakure he may have issued a order to capture her.

also i think that Kakashi will may say that Rin loved him before she died.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 05 May 2013 - 03:54 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm also interested in Kakashi vs Obito because I really want to know the mystery behind Rin's death at Kakashi's hands. I just can't figure what it could possibly be. Kakashi clearly killed he by his own choice, the Mist nins were desperate to retrieve her body and there's that thing about experiments. Way too many mysteries.

I'm hoping that all of this is related to the aftermath of Obito's "death" in some way. Like maybe Rin cooperated with the Mist nins in order to get revenge on the Rock nin that killed Obito, but in the end the mist did something bad to Rin's body that forced Kakashi to mercy kill her.

About Kishi regarding his talk about Sakura, I was under the impression that when Kishi said he would write about Sakura he was referring to the events of the Summit considering that interview came out sometime before the Pain invasion began. What makes matters worst is that Kishi said Sakura slipped his mind in the interview of over a year ago. Although maybe he was just referring to the development of the 2012 year. I really don't know.

Still, since Kishi did write about Sakura in the Summit arc I don't know how valid we can take that statement currently.

I'll admit, I wouldn't mind not knowing what will happen next by showing Obito/Kakashi first. I'm really desperate to find out why that event happened. We know there were explosions, we know Kakashi killed Rin, we know something about mist ninja, but what we don't know is how and why. It's been driving me crazy for a while and Obito never understood it either. I would have think it was genjutsu but it was all real. Something dramatic happened and I hope the answer is coming. I don't think he will be converted good by hearing the story, but I do think his end is drawing near.

As for Sakura, here's the short answer for you and everyone: just wait. The interviews have been going places. In one interview, he claimed that it needed 2 years to be done. Next year, he said he don't know anymore. He said Kakashi then Sakura and Naruto is like later. If I remember, he brought back Kakashi time again because from what I remember, he said he had to delay it because of many obstacles to go through before getting to that moment. That means we are seeing it now. So when is Sakura? Well it's coming. This fight is perhaps Kakashi's biggest development and it could be the last significant one at that. So yeah, this closure with him and Obito needs to happen. I know I'm being redundant but wait is the only thing we can do. Better than bash to ourselves that leads nowhere.

[redragon88]

I get the feeling that maybe Rin wanted to die at Kakashi's hands, it could have been to protect the village. Not sure. I just hope that the revelation is not something to make Obito go, "Thats it?.... wow I just wasted 17 years of my life in seeking revenge and bringing the end of the world. Wow okay kakashi, maybe I got a little to carried away... um, sorry for everything? Maybe I should have waited a little to see why you did it when it had purpose?"

It better not be anything to have just made everything Obito did just a simple misunderstanding.

As for Sakura, well remember chap 628 proves she is still around and long as team 7 still has a story, Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke, and Kakashi still have more development to come.

I'm pretty sure Obito is aware that Kakashi didn't kill her because he wanted to. The reason he doesn't care about anything is because he thinks the Shinobi world is a broken place where people are unable to keep their promises and just make excuses for their failures. Obito is sick of what the Shinobi world is as a whole because it's the darkness of the big picture that caused Rin to die. At least in Obito's point of view.

Also, I know that Kishi will do some development, whether big or small, for Sakura sooner or later. That much is obvious since she's Team 7. I'm just not sure if we can use that old interview as proof of what might come and when.

Regarding Sakura being aware of the possibility of Naruto and Sasuke dying in their fight, I find it interesting that Karin was also there to hear that important conversation. So even Karin has more relevance to the main plot than Hinata ever will.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm pretty sure Obito is aware that Kakashi didn't kill her because he wanted to. The reason he doesn't care about anything is because he thinks the Shinobi world is a broken place where people are unable to keep their promises and just make excuses for their failures. Obito is sick of what the Shinobi world is as a whole because it's the darkness of the big picture that caused Rin to die. At least in Obito's point of view.

Also, I know that Kishi will do some development, whether big or small, for Sakura sooner or later. That much is obvious since she's Team 7. I'm just not sure if we can use that old interview as proof of what might come and when.

Regarding Sakura being aware of the possibility of Naruto and Sasuke dying in their fight, I find it interesting that Karin was also there to hear that important conversation. So even Karin has more relevance to the main plot than Hinata ever will.

That's true. I feel like something about that will be addressed. I mean that panel wasn't needed and it so happened when Sasuke went to an agreement with Naruto. Again, Kishi don't waste panels like that, let alone that one was random to us for now. One thing I ask now is why have her excluded from the whole talk with Hashirama. Maybe I should just wait and see everything comes down.

[Inferno180]

I htink they were after her, Madara knew about Obito's desire to protect his friends and since he was controlling Kirigakure he may have issued a order to capture her.

also i think that Kakashi will may say that Rin loved him before she died.

You mean Obito right? Madara was stuck under a rock pit for years, he could not disconnect with the gedo statue or he would die. He used Madara's name to Kisame because the name meant power. Kisame never met Madara himself. Obito was the one pulling Yagura's strings.

[StrikerTheNoble]

As good as it would be for NS as a parallel I wouldn`t want Rin to die loving Obito. The poor kid gave his life and eye to protect his friend and love. His last wish was for Kakashi to protct her. Then the poor guy survives, trains for who knows how long to see his friends again and what does he find? His best friend kills his love that he swore to protect.

As evil as he has become I think his story might be amongst the more tragic ones there is. Itachi had a nice life for the most part, Naruto grew up in complete loniless (lets ignore for a sec Obito did that), many people shared Nagato`s backstory.

I would feel just to sorry for him if he found out Rin actually loved him. he has a high sanity level right now... but who knows what that would do to him. TnJ would be out of the question because his resolved would get a major kick start.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

You mean Obito right? Madara was stuck under a rock pit for years, he could not disconnect with the gedo statue or he would die. He used Madara's name to Kisame because the name meant power. Kisame never met Madara himself. Obito was the one pulling Yagura's strings.

So how he was able to control the mizukage?
If the third war started because of him also just like with Kisame.
It's even show him with the Madara's long hair.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 05 May 2013 - 04:55 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

As good as it would be for NS as a parallel I wouldn`t want Rin to die loving Obito. The poor kid gave his life and eye to protect his friend and love. His last wish was for Kakashi to protct her. Then the poor guy survives, trains for who knows how long to see his friends again and what does he find? His best friend kills his love that he swore to protect.

As evil as he has become I think his story might be amongst the more tragic ones there is. Itachi had a nice life for the most part, Naruto grew up in complete loniless (lets ignore for a sec Obito did that), many people shared Nagato`s backstory.

I would feel just to sorry for him if he found out Rin actually loved him. he has a high sanity level right now... but who knows what that would do to him. TnJ would be out of the question because his resolved would get a major kick start.

Nicely said. I don't know how Obito will be TnJ by Kakashi or anything because the problem is that he gave up on humanity and the only happiness he sees is in the moon, which is why Kishi drew it that way. This should be interesting to see how Kakashi talks to him. I do think Naruto's aspect wil be mentioned here because Kakashi is asking himself why he's so desperate on Naruto with many talks about hope lost and stuff. To me, it could be possible that not only he sees himself within Naruto but perhaps he's growing envy of him for having so much right now and not shown one ounce of lost hope. It's like I hate my neighbors so much, I destroy their house, but they are just as happy.