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#18861 Princess Iris

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:05 AM

 
That's not accurate. It would be absolutely impossible for the film to accrue an amount equivalent to a budget that high even if The Last were to somehow earn more than all of the previous Naruto films combined. Pierrot's net losses would be so astronomically large that they might even have to declare bankruptcy if that were true.
 
Edit: I believe a more accurate estimate for the film's budget would be something like 150-200% of what RtN's was, considering the increased production time and animation/artwork quality.


well...

not impossible,

I expected this

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:12 AM

 

 

Edit: I believe a more accurate estimate for the film's budget would be something like 150-200% of what RtN's was, considering the increased production time and animation/artwork quality.

But then again we don't even know what RTNs budget is. 

 

200% is probably a bit much. I'd say 125%-150%. They couldn't have projected it to do all that much better then other Naruto movies even with it being the last one and canon. My opinion has been that they probably estimated around 125% RTNs profit which seems to be around what it's headed to make.



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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:13 AM

Yeah I thought so too. Strangely I can't find an official figure for the budget of Rtn either. Just the first week's earnings and reception and the box-office earnings for rtn's entire run.
The quality of animation for this movie is in my honest opinion just wow. Compare this too rtn where the animation was sub-par at best. Also the extensive promotion which was done for this film,and the merchandizing etc. So I'd go with 150- 200% of Rtn's budget too if not more. But not less.

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:15 AM

But then again we don't even know what RTNs budget is. 
 
200% is probably a bit much. I'd say 125%-150%. They couldn't have projected it to do all that much better then other Naruto movies even with it being the last one and canon. My opinion has been that they probably estimated around 125% RTNs profit which seems to be around what it's headed to make.

How can you say its canon when it goes against the manga?

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:22 AM

 

Yeah I thought so too. Strangely I can't find an official figure for the budget of Rtn either. Just the first week's earnings and reception and the box-office earnings for rtn's entire run.
The quality of animation for this movie is in my honest opinion just wow. Compare this too rtn where the animation was sub-par at best. Also the extensive promotion which was done for this film,and the merchandizing etc. So I'd go with 200% of Rtn's budget if not more. But not less.

 

Studios don't usually release their budgets I think. So I doubt we will ever know.

 

How can you say its canon when it goes against the manga?

Because I can't choose what is canon and what isn't. Though that would be a nice superpower.



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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:22 AM



 
Studios don't usually release their budgets I think. So I doubt we will ever know.
 
Because I can't choose what is canon and what isn't. Though that would be a nice superpower.

So if something goes against the manga, it's canon?

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:25 AM

So if something goes against the manga, it's canon?

Believe whatever you want to believe. But I'm not going to ignore reality with you. If they say it's canon, it's canon.Whether I like it or not.


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:28 AM

Believe whatever you want to believe. But I'm not going to ignore reality with you.

oh so what you say is reality? Well I'm sorry sir, maybe I should leave, because clearly what I say is just bull.
This is what pisses me off the most about Naruto fans, they take everything up the ass and don't question it

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:31 AM

oh so what you say is reality? Well I'm sorry sir, maybe I should leave, because clearly what I say is just bull.
This is what pisses me off the most about Naruto fans, they take everything up the ass and doesn't question it

Making believe like it doesn't exist doesn't change anything. The manga and anime will continue with what was done whether we like it or not. If you don't want to accept it that's fine. But don't try to push it on me.



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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:37 AM

Making believe like it doesn't exist doesn't change anything. The manga and anime will continue with what was done whether we like it or not. If you don't want to accept it that's fine. But don't try to push it on me.

You know what fine, believe in what whatever the hell you like
I'm not going to waste my time with you

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 09:30 AM

Give me Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods over this film any day. I watched some poor quality footage of it, and it left a sour taste in my mouth which I had to quickly forget by watching Battle Of Gods again.


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 09:33 AM

@magic conch
Maybe that movie full contradiction, asspull, and retcon, but The last is canon.

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 10:25 AM

I just have to agree with TheMagicConch, there's no way I can accept a crappy movie over the manga. I mean, Naruto was born in a manga, it's nonsense to try to make it a movie series or something. So SP and Kishimoney validated TL? Right, then following this logic, I guess every filler episode is just as canon as this movie. Right...

 

Let's no argue about this, shall we? Because this thread will be closed if we create another conflict.


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 10:43 AM

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If kishi validate all of that fillers as canon than all that fillers is canon.

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 10:52 AM

NH/SS were made canon in the manga, and this movie, with all its retcons and asspulls, is supposed to explain how NH came to be. May as well accept that garbage as canon because of what's already been written in the manga. The only thing that can really change is how NH/SS came to be (like maybe changing the rivalry thing to a genuine love he got over) but why would that even happen?

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 10:54 AM

Kishi is kitten writer who doesn't even know how to make a believable rivalry without resorting on homoerotic.

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 03:07 PM

@magic conch
Maybe that movie full contradiction, asspull, and retcon, but The last is canon.

No that's kitten

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 03:57 PM

No that's bullsh**

No, it isn't. The last is canon.

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 04:00 PM

No, it isn't. The last is canon.

I don't accept something that is literal garbage. BTW who said it was canon? 


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 04:05 PM

Guys lets change topics from if the last is canon or not :/

I remember RTN production cost
It was something from 200k yen to 300 k yen

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