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#18841 redrose3443

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 06:52 AM

Yeah, it's amazing how stubborn people can be, especially when faced with logic. I don't even look at other sites anymore, cause I know I won't be able to go ten comments in without seeing Sakura or NS bashing. Here I can talk about the new chapter without hearing half the people complain about Sakura. Sure there are disagreements, as I've been seeing, but it's not nearly as bad as the ones out there.

 

Do you guys think the reanimated kages will get sealed/die after Madara is gone? It's just after that will might possibly be the narusasu fight and it will be sad when Minato, and possibly the Sandaime, leaves Naruto. :sad:


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 06:57 AM

They are just Edo tensei....... Guess it depends on Orochimaru i guess  :confused:

 

He was the one who brought them back right ?

 

Seeing Minato and Hiruzen leave would be sad. I hoped that Kishi would make Kushina appear somewhere, :P  :P  Have her meet Sakura and stuff. 


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 06:59 AM

This is the only forum i've ever been to in regards to Naruto. I'm glad for that.

 

I don't wanna run into anyother rabid fans on any site. I just dealt with a NH fan claiming that his Grandfather lives in Japan and he works for Kishi. He said that Kishi has made NH canon because Kishi told his grandfather  :down:  :down:

 

When he lost the argument at Logic, He started hurling Racist comments at me :bash:  :bash:

All I have to say is....idiots these days XDDD.

 

Yeah, it's amazing how stubborn people can be, especially when faced with logic. I don't even look at other sites anymore, cause I know I won't be able to go ten comments in without seeing Sakura or NS bashing. Here I can talk about the new chapter without hearing half the people complain about Sakura. Sure there are disagreements, as I've been seeing, but it's not nearly as bad as the ones out there.

 

Do you guys think the reanimated kages will get sealed/die after Madara is gone? It's just after that will might possibly be the narusasu fight and it will be sad when Minato, and possibly the Sandaime, leaves Naruto. :sad:

Yes ofcourse, they are meant to be freed from Edo Tensei. I don't think Minato would possibly die before giving his blessings to NS one last time thinking that his son did find a girl like Kushina XD. That scene will be a bit emotional though. However, I don't wish to see Minato, Hiruzen or Tobirama die before they see that Naruto now knows Hiraishin! Minato's reactions will especially be noteworthy :D


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 10:07 AM

I'm not bringing it up to justify her feelings for Sasuke, in fact I'm looking at it for a future NS moment, nothing to do with Sasuke really. Kishi doesn't seem to like loose ends and depending on who you are, that scene can be counted as one, because Sakura still does not know it was Naruto who complimented her biggest insecurity at the time.

If there's nothing to do with Sasuke then why you claimed it was the main foundation of her love?

Second "Kishi doesnt let loose ends"

- "How Madara controlled the Mist shinobis"
- "What was the purpose of the akatsuki rings since zetsu was collecting them"
- "What was the meaning of the black zetsu eating the corpses of akatsuki?"
So on...
 

Plus, I meant back when she was 12 she might've remembered his words at the bench scene whenever she was upset that Sasuke turned her down, though you never know. I was not referring to when she's older.

I dont care if she was 12 or not, the scene would do nothing other than make Sakura look pathetic.

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#18845 Angelus87

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:00 AM

I am so glad I got back into Naruto a while after that chapter came up. I kept seeing the cover of it whenever I went on manga sites, but I was not interested in getting back into it completely. I will never be more glad I waited for all that to cool off. -_-

 

 

It still hasn't cooled down yet,though the fire ravages lesser than when 615 came XD. NH fandom tries to shove that 615 'hand hold' down our throats everytime. They went as far claiming that NH was canon when 615 came. Even I consider myself lucky that I just shipped NS at that time and was not a part of any forum. Atleast from what I hear, pairing wars were not just 'wars' when 615 happened. Older members know it better  :sweatdrop:

If i remember correctly Naruto hold hand when Neiji died right? Also to spread his chakra to others. Well no suprise that NH fans who have not moments from confession in pain arc were so desperate to find so hope but to make this canon s overboard

 

Yeah, it's amazing how stubborn people can be, especially when faced with logic. I don't even look at other sites anymore, cause I know I won't be able to go ten comments in without seeing Sakura or NS bashing. Here I can talk about the new chapter without hearing half the people complain about Sakura. Sure there are disagreements, as I've been seeing, but it's not nearly as bad as the ones out there.

 

Do you guys think the reanimated kages will get sealed/die after Madara is gone? It's just after that will might possibly be the narusasu fight and it will be sad when Minato, and possibly the Sandaime, leaves Naruto. :sad:

In politics i heard something like that: first they ingore you,later they bash you,next fight with you and in the end you win :D


Edited by Angelus87, 19 May 2014 - 11:04 AM.


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:02 AM

@darkrest
Darkrest, I think you misquoted me. ^^'

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:07 AM

@darkrest
Darkrest, I think you misquoted me. ^^'

LOL.
Yep sorry i might have picked up the Ctrl+C from the other page.
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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:20 AM

Fun question though I am curious. Doesn't hurt to ask:

In manga or just reading in general, you know we get new info while reading bit-by-bit. The more we read, the more we learn. That said back in chapter 619, we were learning about love is the cause for Uchiha's horrible curse. So when upon reading that line, did you ever think, "Oh God no! You're making SS canon!!!" or something similar to that, only to find out that love is pretty much anything so you go "Oh thank God?" Haha. Hey, we were recovering from 615.

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:25 AM

Fun question though I am curious. Doesn't hurt to ask:

In manga or just reading in general, you know we get new info while reading bit-by-bit. The more we read, the more we learn. That said back in chapter 619, we were learning about love is the cause for Uchiha's horrible curse. So when upon reading that line, did you ever think, "Oh God no! You're making SS canon!!!" or something similar to that, only to find out that love is pretty much anything so you go "Oh thank God?" Haha. Hey, we were recovering from 615.

No. The only thing that I was thinking when I read that chapter was "Wow the Uchiha clan is a clan of pussies".


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:31 AM

No. The only thing that I was thinking when I read that chapter was "Wow the Uchiha clan is a clan of pussies".

that s hillarous but i think same, but Shinsui and Itachi were not pussy in my view :D


Edited by Angelus87, 19 May 2014 - 11:31 AM.


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:34 AM

that s hillarous but i think same, but Shinsui and Itachi were not pussy in my view :D

Well there are exceptions. Itachi and Shisui are the only ones and maybe Shisui's father, we don't really know exactly.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:42 AM

If there's nothing to do with Sasuke then why you claimed it was the main foundation of her love?

Second "Kishi doesnt let loose ends"

- "How Madara controlled the Mist shinobis"
- "What was the purpose of the akatsuki rings since zetsu was collecting them"
- "What was the meaning of the black zetsu eating the corpses of akatsuki?"
So on...


The first one is I assumed with Genjutsu, dunno about the second question, the third question is pretty simple he was disposing of the bodies so none of the villages would have a chance to find anything out via anatomy.

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#18853 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:46 AM

The first one is I assumed with Genjutsu, dunno about the second question, the third question is pretty simple he was disposing of the bodies so none of the villages would have a chance to find anything out via anatomy.

Madara was never shown to be a genjutsu user on the same level as shisui.
Which is a problem to me.
 

Fun question though I am curious. Doesn't hurt to ask:

In manga or just reading in general, you know we get new info while reading bit-by-bit. The more we read, the more we learn. That said back in chapter 619, we were learning about love is the cause for Uchiha's horrible curse. So when upon reading that line, did you ever think, "Oh God no! You're making SS canon!!!" or something similar to that, only to find out that love is pretty much anything so you go "Oh thank God?" Haha. Hey, we were recovering from 615.

No, i just had the rage that i know for sure Sasuke is going to get a free pass on his crimes.
As an excuse from Kishi to feel sympathy for Sasuke and taking out the blame from Sasuke transfering it to hatred itself or the curse.
It's the same thing when Kishimoto revealed that Madara was the one behind Rin's death (without logical explanation) to basically make the audience think like "it wasn't Obito's fault because he was being "deceived" by Madara all the time following the plan he made for Obito.

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#18854 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:51 AM

Fair enough answers. I asked because it feels like we forced ourselves to think romance talk in every form of way. Just saying.

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:53 AM

Fair enough answers. I asked because it feels like we forced ourselves to think romance talk in every form of way. Just saying.

It's basically Naruto's logic.
If you look at the manga, Naruto always view Sasuke as some sort of victim.
The whole ~le prisoner of hatred~.


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#18856 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:57 AM

Lol.

Well, off to work. Hopefully, today is a bit quiet, because it was a hell of a week to keep coming back here. Not the end, but save it for Wednesday.

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 12:07 PM

Fair enough answers. I asked because it feels like we forced ourselves to think romance talk in every form of way. Just saying.

That's the problem with the fandom, when we see the word "love" mentioned we instantly assume it's romantic. From what I saw the average "Naruto" reader is not smart enough to make a distinguish between love and romance.

 

It's basically Naruto's logic.
If you look at the manga, Naruto always view Sasuke as some sort of victim.
The whole ~le prisoner of hatred~.

Yeah but that's a problem. Sasuke is not really a victim of the ninja system or hatred. Sasuke is a victim of his own stupidity.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 12:22 PM

No. The only thing that I was thinking when I read that chapter was "Wow the Uchiha clan is a clan of pussies".

Ha ha......Nice one friend.

 

Hey are you the one who made that huge rant on NS and tore Hinata a new one ??


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 12:43 PM

Ha ha......Nice one friend.

 

Hey are you the one who made that huge rant on NS and tore Hinata a new one ??

Am I really that famous? :happy:


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


#18860 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 12:51 PM

That's the problem with the fandom, when we see the word "love" mentioned we instantly assume it's romantic. From what I saw the average "Naruto" reader is not smart enough to make a distinguish between love and romance.

Yeah, I can't say Kishi is using "love" loosely, but I can say he's doing it as a category, which can break into others. This is why we became more specific as of late. Sadly, today's people still see it as one thing and one thing only.




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