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[KnS]

Sasuke is the biggest obstacle for both of them.

As far as I'm concerned, truer words were never spoken written.

I agree that Naruto probably would not have allowed Sakura's confession to change anything, even if he had fully believed her. Naruto has all of his own wants and needs on hold until he has kept his promises / met his goals / proved himself worthy. That appears to mean bringing Sasuke back into the light and standing beside him as an equal.

There's so much complexity to what happened during Sakura's confession, and to my mind it established a number of things pretty clearly:

+ Naruto's reaction to Sakura saying she loved him proves how he feels about her, and what he's hoping for in terms of a relationship with her. He loves her. LOVES HER.

+ Sakura is confused. She loves Naruto, and wants to choose him, but she has not achieved complete closure on Sasuke. I believe this is because she has grown to love Sasuke more as a person and teammate now, and less as a potential boyfriend/lover. It's been difficult for her to figure out where one kind of love has ended and the other has begun. Sakura's feelings for both boys have been a storm (an allusion to the word shippuuden, perhaps?) that has been raging for a long time now, shifting and changing the landscape as it works itself out.

+ Although Sakura's confession didn't resolve the feelings between her and Naruto, it did give Naruto an equal hand -- if not the upper hand -- in their relationship. Always before he was the eager, devoted one who would do anything for her -- without letting her see how serious and deep his own feelings are for her. His unwillingness to immediately melt into Sakura's arms -- because neither has resolved their issues with Sasuke -- proved that Naruto isn't a pushover nor does he see himself as Sakura's consolation prize. In a roundabout way, Naruto seemed to be saying, "I love you but you can't have me that easily."

It's probably that last thing there that made me like Sakura's confession so much. Although it was frustrating to see them so close to understanding each other, and so close to getting Sasuke out of their way, it would have been too easy. I love it that they both walked away on a more level playing field.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

+ Sakura is confused. She loves Naruto, and wants to choose him, but she has not achieved complete closure on Sasuke. I believe this is because she has grown to love Sasuke more as a person and teammate now, and less as a potential boyfriend/lover. It's been difficult for her to figure out where one kind of love has ended and the other has begun. Sakura's feelings for both boys have been a storm (an allusion to the word shippuuden, perhaps?) that has been raging for a long time now, shifting and changing the landscape as it works itself out.

Actually she doesnt love Naruto, i'll says with kishi's words "she says she loves Sasuke but it's more closer to Naruto", Naruto is more of a bigger presence to her but she convinced herself that she's in love with Sasuke and until she doesnt get a closure on Sasuke she will never love anyone else, also she doesnt "want to choose him" she knows he's way better than Sasuke, Sakura already acknowledge Naruto as the most amazing shinobi ever and someome who she can relies her dreams and her hopes on him and never let her down, the problem is part 1 when she was basically an ass to him and she feels she's unworthy of someome like Naruto.

Until when the possible troll lover-nin comes on 540.

+ Although Sakura's confession didn't resolve the feelings between her and Naruto, it did give Naruto an equal hand -- if not the upper hand -- in their relationship. Always before he was the eager, devoted one who would do anything for her -- without letting her see how serious and deep his own feelings are for her. His unwillingness to immediately melt into Sakura's arms -- because neither has resolved their issues with Sasuke -- proved that Naruto isn't a pushover nor does he see himself as Sakura's consolation prize. In a roundabout way, Naruto seemed to be saying, "I love you but you can't have me that easily."

Sakura's confession served more for Sakura herself, while she finnaly thought about her feelings for Naruto and Sasuke she knows that Naruto's better and was at her side but unfortunately she loves the guy who treats her like trash.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 02 May 2013 - 05:12 PM.

[KnS]

Actually she doesnt love Naruto, i'll says with kishi's words "she says she loves Sasuke but it's more closer to Naruto",

I said she loves Naruto, not that she's IN LOVE with Naruto. And yes, she does love Naruto.

P.S. If it's the same interview quote I'm thinking of, what you've got there is a serious butchering of what he said.

Sakura's confession served more for Sakura herself, while she finnaly thought about her feelings for Naruto and Sasuke she knows that Naruto's better and was at her side but unfortunately she loves the guy who treats her like trash.

As true as this might be, it has no relevance to what I said about the confession in terms of how it affects Naruto and Sakura's relationship dynamic going forward.

[redragon88]

I said she loves Naruto, not that she's IN LOVE with Naruto. And yes, she does love Naruto.

P.S. If it's the same interview quote I'm thinking of, what you've got there is a serious butchering of what he said.

Well, I think that according to Chatte what Kishi really said was "She says she loves Sasuke, but Naruto is closer to her heart."

She seemed pretty confident in that being the true translation, and that she had a japanese reader actually verify it for her.

Edited by redragon88, 02 May 2013 - 05:28 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

As true as this might be, it has no relevance to what I said about the confession in terms of how it affects Naruto and Sakura's relationship dynamic going forward.

Actually it has since it's explained on my previous post, Sakura thought about her bad actions towards Naruto on the part 1, it didnt affect Naruto, but affected her and the first interaction that we got between Naruto and Sakura we saw Naruto acting like always but with Sakura being way more affective towards him.

[StriderC]

Yes, and it's not false because when she said clearly that she would be lonely without Sasuke, and even wanted to go with him, it proves to me that Naruto wasnt important to Sakura and only started being built after the promise, because Naruto was there for her.
Then on Shippuuden it started from where part 1 ending on Naruto and Sakura relationship to a point that he had grown beyond close friendship.

Also when Sai tells her that Naruto loves her she remembers about the promise and the part when she said Naruto was annoying after that part she thought about how she was horrible to him before and during the POAL.

And you DO realize she was saying anything to get him to stay right. Kishi even noted that her confession to Sasuke was indeed SELFISH. If she weren't close to him, why would he inspire her. Why would she want to see his dreams not get crushed. Doesn't make even an OUNCE of sense to me. That's not something you think of toward someone you're not close to. Sasuke and Naruto are another legitimate example because he insulted Naruto/was annoyed by him also, and yet, they STILL had a bond then, and Sasuke acknowledged that in Part 1. To completely disregard how she and Naruto formed a bond in Part 1 is just ridiculous to me. She PoaL isn't where it started at all. It started way before that. Hell, the build up shows all of this...

[James S Cassidy]

And you DO realize she was saying anything to get him to stay right. Kishi even noted that her confession to Sasuke was indeed SELFISH. If she weren't close to him, why would he inspire her. Why would she want to see his dreams not get crushed. Doesn't make even an OUNCE of sense to me. That's not something you think of toward someone you're not close to. Sasuke and Naruto are another legitimate example because he insulted Naruto/was annoyed by him also, and yet, they STILL had a bond then, and Sasuke acknowledged that in Part 1. To completely disregard how she and Naruto formed a bond in Part 1 is just ridiculous to me. She PoaL isn't where it started at all. It started way before that. Hell, the build up shows all of this...

I could argue the build up happened even before given the manga itself seeing how Sasuke was not originally part of said plan and Hinata had even less of a role than what she has now.

"Nobody panics because it is all part of the plan"
-The Joker.

[KnS]

Well, I think that according to Chatte what Kishi really said was "She says she loves Sasuke, but Naruto is closer to her heart."

She seemed pretty confident in that being the true translation, and that she had a japanese reader actually verify it for her.

Thanks for clearing this up. I had missed this translation somewhere along the way, and it doesn't much resemble the original one that had been floating around for ages. My apologies to Dαrkrєrsŧ for doubting.

Actually it has since it's explained on my previous post, Sakura thought about her bad actions towards Naruto on the part 1, it didnt affect Naruto, but affected her and the first interaction that we got between Naruto and Sakura we saw Naruto acting like always but with Sakura being way more affective towards him.

Sorry, man. I'm honestly trying to get what you're saying but I don't. I don't see how this or what you posted before has to do with what I said -- that Sakura's mistakes during the confession served to prove that Naruto isn't a pushover, that he's not willing to settle for whatever he gets from Sakura, and that they both need to resolve their respective feelings for Sasuke first.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

And you DO realize she was saying anything to get him to stay right. Kishi even noted that her confession to Sasuke was indeed SELFISH. If she weren't close to him, why would he inspire her. Why would she want to see his dreams not get crushed. Doesn't make even an OUNCE of sense to me. That's not something you think of toward someone you're not close to.

This is the problem why she wanted to leave with Sasuke then?
Why she claimed she would feel lonely despite all that development, being selfish or not Sasuke was way more important to her than Naruto, and she didnt took in consideration all the parts when she did something relevant to Naruto(like tried to protect him on the chuunin exame) but picked up only the negative parts were she was an horrible person to Naruto and thought with herself she was an horrible person to him and doesnt deserve his love.

Sasuke and Naruto are another legitimate example because he insulted Naruto/was annoyed by him also, and yet, they STILL had a bond then, and Sasuke acknowledged that in Part 1. To completely disregard how she and Naruto formed a bond in Part 1 is just ridiculous to me. She PoaL isn't where it started at all. It started way before that. Hell, the build up shows all of this...

I disregard just with the fact she wanted to leave him behind, because it's unbelievable and unlogic ofr her to leave Naruto behind despite all that development, it was throw into a trash can and suddenly got rebuilt after the POAL, that settled an abyss between Sakura of part 1 and Sakura of part 2.
The most important memories of Sakura from part 1 regarding to Naruto was her selfish promise to Naruto and the part where she called him annoying.

Which shows to me that the development of part 1 was her hating naruto because she always went fangirl mode when Sasuke was around completely ignoring Naruto(Thanking Sasuke for saving her on Gaara's battle despite acknowleding his was strong during the chuunin exams).

I'm not sure about this really but i see part 1 as a display that Sakura would change, and only really made a strong bond with the promise.
This is the reason why i can simply disregard all the development that Naruto and Sakura had before Sasuke's confession because she only really acknowledged him not only as a strong shinobi but also as a close friend during the promise.

It was the same thing as Naruto saying his friends are strong but when they go into battle he feels the need of protecting and babysitting them this is not acknowledgment.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 02 May 2013 - 05:57 PM.

[StriderC]

This is the problem why she wanted to leave with Sasuke then?
Why she claimed she would feel lonely despite all that development, being selfish or not Sasuke was way more important to her than Naruto, and she didnt took in consideration all the parts when she did something relevant to Naruto(like tried to protect him on the chuunin exame) but picked up only the negative parts were she was an horrible person to Naruto and thought with herself she was an horrible person to him and doesnt deserve his love.


I disregard just with the fact she wanted to leave him behind, because it's unbelievable and unlogic ofr her to leave Naruto behind despite all that development, it was throw into a trash can and suddenly got rebuilt after the POAL, that settled an abyss between Sakura of part 1 and Sakura of part 2.
The most important memories of Sakura from part 1 regarding to Naruto was her selfish promise to Naruto and the part where she called him annoying.

Which shows to me that the development of part 1 was her hating naruto because she always went fangirl mode when Sasuke was around completely ignoring Naruto(Thanking Sasuke for saving her on Gaara's battle despite acknowleding his was strong during the chuunin exams).

I'm not sure about this really but i see part 1 as a display that Sakura would change, and only really made a strong bond with the promise.

You're weighing them against one another but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if she cared for Sasuke a bit more than Naruto in Part 1 or not. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WEREN'T CLOSEEEEE. Lol

Once again, she was saying anything she could to get him to stay and she even offered to leave with him. That situation had NOTHING to do with Naruto. It's like you're clinging to that one moment to say that, "Sakura didn't give a damn about Naruto before". All of her cares for him didn't miraculously spring out around the time of the PoaL. It was built upon before that.

How in the world was it thrown in the trash can? You're basically saying most of part 1 doesn't mean jackkitten to NS. It'd be funny if that bench scene came back into play, and I'd love to see what your response would of been considering that was wayyyy back in Part 1. I guess the Build up should only be looked at starting from the PoaL since apparently anything before that supposedly got canned. I guess since Sasuke abandoned both Naruto AND Sakura, their personal relationship with him got trashed too.. and yet, they spent a good amount of time trying to save him. Hmmmmmmmmmm....

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

You're weighing them against one another but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if she cared for Sasuke a bit more than Naruto in Part 1 or not. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WEREN'T CLOSEEEEE. Lol

Once again, she was saying anything she could to get him to stay and she even offered to leave with him. That situation had NOTHING to do with Naruto. It's like you're clinging to that one moment to say that, "Sakura didn't give a damn about Naruto before". All of her cares for him didn't miraculously spring out around the time of the PoaL. It was built upon before that.

No it didnt, it happened when she had no one to rely on then she remembered about her teammate and put her hopes into him, then later he comes bakc without Sasuke and heavily injured like all the other guys of K11, watching him on it's state proved to her that he really cares about her and she then she wanted to help him no matter what, to retribute what he did to her.
But she fails later and we have the bridge scene.

How in the world was it thrown in the trash can? You're basically saying most of part 1 doesn't mean jackkitten to NS. It'd be funny if that bench scene came back into play, and I'd love to see what your response would of been considering that was wayyyy back in Part 1. I guess the Build up should only be looked at starting from the PoaL since apparently anything before that supposedly got canned. I guess since Sasuke abandoned both Naruto AND Sakura, their personal relationship with him got trashed too.. and yet, they spent a good amount of time trying to save him. Hmmmmmmmmmm....

I only see Sakura remembering of Negative things that she did to Naruto not the positives ones, and she only acknowledged him after the promise.
Like i said it's the same thing as Naruto saying to all his friends he's strong but when they go into a battle he feels the need to protect them even if he does not succeed on the main objective, Naruto acknowledge his friends are strong but doesnt rely on them.

he only picked up the negative parts to serve for Sakura development not the positives ones.(which are the ones you pointed out as development)

also about the bench scene, it can happen it could be bought back like "it was you" or something like that but would not change the fact that it didnt served as a excuse for Sakura loving Sasuke since it didnt even bought up again on the two parts were she thought about her feelings for Sasuke, it wasnt bought up on her confession and neither on her most desperate situation.
karin thought about Sasuke's smile when she was close to death, and Sakura thought about the "thank you".

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 02 May 2013 - 06:13 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

It was the same thing as Naruto saying his friends are strong but when they go into battle he feels the need of protecting and babysitting them this is not acknowledgment.

I am not gonna respond to the rest of it, but this caught my eye. I think you misinterpret this a little bit. Naruto doesn't really "babysit" his fellow friends. he is not some motherly figure trying to protect his young. Really he has only been like since the war started with Obito. Since they are after him, he felt like it was only his responsibility to fight this guy and he still does. Even with Sasuke who, even when the other knew of it, told the rest of the group "He is my responsibility, let me handle it."

It's not that he thinks his friends are weak, he just feels like they are fighting a battle for his sake and he feels like a bad person because he feels it is supposed to be his battle to fight. This is why all those people kept telling him to look to his friends for help and guidance. He kept thinking it was his burden to bare alone and not thinking that this war affects everyone, not just him. Plus it is understandable that he doesn't want people to die just for his sake.

You're weighing them against one another but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if she cared for Sasuke a bit more than Naruto in Part 1 or not. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WEREN'T CLOSEEEEE. Lol

Once again, she was saying anything she could to get him to stay and she even offered to leave with him. That situation had NOTHING to do with Naruto. It's like you're clinging to that one moment to say that, "Sakura didn't give a damn about Naruto before". All of her cares for him didn't miraculously spring out around the time of the PoaL. It was built upon before that.

How in the world was it thrown in the trash can? You're basically saying most of part 1 doesn't mean jackkitten to NS. It'd be funny if that bench scene came back into play, and I'd love to see what your response would of been considering that was wayyyy back in Part 1. I guess the Build up should only be looked at starting from the PoaL since apparently anything before that supposedly got canned. I guess since Sasuke abandoned both Naruto AND Sakura, their personal relationship with him got trashed too.. and yet, they spent a good amount of time trying to save him. Hmmmmmmmmmm....

There is one factor we are forgetting....they were just little kids. At that age you're willing to say anything to get things to remain the way you want it to. It doesn't mean you don't care about anything else, it just means you don't want things to change. Sakura said she would join Sasuke in his travels. Did she do it? No, even though she had chances to. It's because she didn't mean what she said. She was just willing to say anything to keep Sasuke in the village. Anyone remember doing this at that age? I do. I remember telling people whatever they wanted to hear to get them to stay. Just how kids' minds work.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I am not gonna respond to the rest of it, but this caught my eye. I think you misinterpret this a little bit. Naruto doesn't really "babysit" his fellow friends. he is not some motherly figure trying to protect his young. Really he has only been like since the war started with Obito. Since they are after him, he felt like it was only his responsibility to fight this guy and he still does. Even with Sasuke who, even when the other knew of it, told the rest of the group "He is my responsibility, let me handle it."

It's not that he thinks his friends are weak, he just feels like they are fighting a battle for his sake and he feels like a bad person because he feels it is supposed to be his battle to fight. This is why all those people kept telling him to look to his friends for help and guidance. He kept thinking it was his burden to bare alone and not thinking that this war affects everyone, not just him. Plus it is understandable that he doesn't want people to die just for his sake.

That is the problem because Obito/Itachi says the same thing and he doenst rely on them, Sakura pretty much spoiled it at first time, Naruto was going to run out of chakra not because he was fighting against Obito or the Juubi or Madara, or wasting his chakra trying to take them down but mostly because he spend the entire battle trying to protect his friends just because Neji died, 617 ended like he acknowledged everyone and that on a war even his friends could die and they would sacrifice themselves for Naruto to suceed and that Naruto has to accept it and succeed to not let them die in vain but Naruto did the inverse (babysitting them) and claimed he was right in front of Obito, when he was just playing on Obito's plan, Neji was pretty much going to die in vain, because he sacrifice himself not just because of Naruto but because he knew that Naruto was a key part for the alliance's plan and he could not die.

The problem is that he doesnt really accept and claims that he's right that annoyed me at first time, it's the same attitude of people saying "I'm right because i know the truth already".
I just hope that he stop with this thinking because it's getting pushed all the time on him and kishimoto kept misleading everyone.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 02 May 2013 - 06:22 PM.

[StriderC]

No it didnt, it happened when she had no one to rely on then she remembered about her teammate and put her hopes into him, then later he comes bakc without Sasuke and heavily injured like all the other guys of K11, watching him on it's state proved to her that he really cares about her and she then she wanted to help him no matter what, to retribute what he did to her.
But she fails later and we have the bridge scene.


I only see Sakura remembering of Negative things that she did to Naruto not the positives ones, and she only acknowledged him after the promise.
Like i said it's the same thing as Naruto saying to all his friends he's strong but when they go into a battle he feels the need to protect them even if he does not succeed on the main objective, Naruto acknowledge his friends are strong but doesnt rely on them.

Also i didnt said it served to jackkitten to NS, it has another purpose, he only picked up the negative parts to serve for Sakura development not the positives ones.(which are the ones you pointed out as development)

She could of asked anyone to bring him back, but she chose Naruto and felt he was the only one who could at the time. This doesn't negate what I've said numerous times already. She and Naruto formed a bond and became closer way before that PoaL. She did make a realization at the PoaL. There was nothing to be rebuilt there because nothing was ever broken.

As for the bolded, are you talking about when she found that Naruto loved her in the tent and that SHE WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CAUSED HIM PAIN?

Connect the bolded to her flashbacks, and you'll see why she thought of the "negatives". She even thought of the PoaL in which I'm sure a lot of people viewed as a positive moment, and it was looked at negatively. You're going off here. LOL This has nothing to do with me saying that Naruto and Sakura were close in Part 1...

Huh? How did he only pick at the negative ones? Makes no sense at all.

I am not gonna respond to the rest of it, but this caught my eye. I think you misinterpret this a little bit. Naruto doesn't really "babysit" his fellow friends. he is not some motherly figure trying to protect his young. Really he has only been like since the war started with Obito. Since they are after him, he felt like it was only his responsibility to fight this guy and he still does. Even with Sasuke who, even when the other knew of it, told the rest of the group "He is my responsibility, let me handle it."

It's not that he thinks his friends are weak, he just feels like they are fighting a battle for his sake and he feels like a bad person because he feels it is supposed to be his battle to fight. This is why all those people kept telling him to look to his friends for help and guidance. He kept thinking it was his burden to bare alone and not thinking that this war affects everyone, not just him. Plus it is understandable that he doesn't want people to die just for his sake.



There is one factor we are forgetting....they were just little kids. At that age you're willing to say anything to get things to remain the way you want it to. It doesn't mean you don't care about anything else, it just means you don't want things to change. Sakura said she would join Sasuke in his travels. Did she do it? No, even though she had chances to. It's because she didn't mean what she said. She was just willing to say anything to keep Sasuke in the village. Anyone remember doing this at that age? I do. I remember telling people whatever they wanted to hear to get them to stay. Just how kids' minds work.

That's pretty much how I feel about the situation, and it's why I personally don't even grudge over it like some people do considering she was just trying to get him to stay ultimately. Hell, I didn't even fault her for it. Even though I didn't ship SS ever, I personally thought it was sweet from her, but anyway, I definitely agree with you here, and in no way did this mean anything in regards to where she stood with Naruto. That's my opinion on that matter.

Edited by StriderC, 02 May 2013 - 06:24 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

She could of asked anyone to bring him back, but she chose Naruto and felt he was the only one who could at the time. This doesn't negate what I've said numerous times already. She and Naruto formed a bond and became closer way before that PoaL. She did make a realization at the PoaL. There was nothing to be rebuilt there because nothing was ever broken.

As for the bolded, are you talking about when she found that Naruto loved her in the tent and that SHE WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CAUSED HIM PAIN?

Connect the bolded to her flashbacks, and you'll see why she thought of the "negatives". She even thought of the PoaL in which I'm sure a lot of people viewed as a positive moment, and it was looked at negatively. You're going off here. LOL This has nothing to do with me saying that Naruto and Sakura were close in Part 1...

Huh? How did he only pick at the negative ones? Makes no sense at all.

He picked the negative ones to justify her actions on part 2, this is where part 1 served as development it's more a justificative, how she became so much close to Naruto and the answer is that she did a lot of bad stuff to him, also the promise and etc and she felt the need ot help him and make Naruto share his burdens with her.
Also the promise was indeed negative to her character because like the confession it was selfish too, she didnt asked Naruto because she cared about Sasuke as a teammate she just wanted Sasuke back because she loved him.
And Naruto got the message to a point that he said "You really loves Sasuke", and plus he says that he was feelings the same way "heartbroken" like her and then she understood when he wanted to say with that quote.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 02 May 2013 - 06:32 PM.

[redragon88]

Thanks for clearing this up. I had missed this translation somewhere along the way, and it doesn't much resemble the original one that had been floating around for ages. My apologies to Dαrkrєrsŧ for doubting.

For further clarification I found the old post from Chatte

Bwuahahah, finally asked my friend aaaand this is what Kishi says:

ナルトは近いが、サクラやはりサスケが好き的な発言。後あんまりナルト対していい言葉は使わなかったような驕っている…だっけ思い出せない。

Sakura feels close to Naruto, but she says she loves Sasuke after all. After that she doesn't really have any kind words for Naruto, I think... I can't remember.

If anyone feels like trying to confirm this as the actual translation please give it a try. Feel up to it Rikudo?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

For further clarification I found the old post from Chatte



If anyone feels like trying to confirm this as the actual translation please give it a try. Feel up to it Rikudo?

Yep i remember now, at least it still confirms databook 3, because Naruto's more close, she says she loves Sasuke but she hasnt found any words to describe her feelings towards Naruto.

[StriderC]

He picked the negative ones to justify her actions on part 2, this is where part 1 served as development it's more a justificative, how she became so much close to Naruto and the answer is that she did a lot of bad stuff to him and she felt the need ot help him and make Naruto share his burdens with her.
Also the promise was indeed negative to her character because like the confession it was selfish too, she didnt asked Naruto because she cared about Sasuke as a teammate she just wanted him back because she loved Sasuke.

You do realize that throughout Part 1, SAKURA DIDN'T WANT TO BE A BURDEN. If anything, getting Sasuke back/helping Naruto was the push she needed to actually train and get stronger. Again, her not wanting to be a burden/saved didn't just spring out of the air. It's been an ongoing thing and it was shown throughout Part ONEEEEEEEE. So no, I disagree with the bolded. He picked those negative moments because that's what she thought about when she found out that she caused him pain. Sai noted that when he said something along the lines of, "I don't know what he promised you". Why would she think of the positives when he's not talking about the good of their relationship but the bad?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

You do realize that throughout Part 1, SAKURA DIDN'T WANT TO BE A BURDEN. If anything, getting Sasuke back/helping Naruto was the push she needed to actually train and get stronger. Again, her not wanting to be a burden/saved didn't just spring out of the air. It's been an ongoing thing and it was shown throughout Part ONEEEEEEEE. So no, I disagree with the bolded. He picked those negative moments because that's what she thought about when she found out that she caused him pain. Sai noted that when he said something along the lines of, "I don't know what he promised you". Why would she think of the positives when he's not talking about the good of their relationship but the bad?

Because they vowed they do it together and it wasnt even bought up when she thought about killing Sasuke, i felt that i should not had said that it throw the entire NaruSaku part 1 development on a trash can, i just felt i didnt had the exact words to describe so i recognize i was wrong on that statement.

When she protected him and also cheered him up ti would be better if it was made like a balance, but you know why it was bought up, it was bought up because of romance, the part where she thought she bought up pain to Naruto was because she broke up his heart and the part that it got emphasized was where Naruto says "you really loves Sasuke" and when she realizes that the quote" I'm feeling the same thing you're feeling now" because he was also heartbroken like her.
She was rather trying to verify if "Naruto loves Sakura is real" than thinking about her own mistakes.

and then i end up if the part was to think about being a burden why she did not think about the part where she felt she was a burden?

Bridge scene, when Naruto was crippled and she could do nothing, Sasuke's reunion where she did nothing, Pain's arc where she also did nothing in contrast to Hinata that almost sacrificed her life and she felt kinda sad for not doing the same...

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 02 May 2013 - 06:58 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

For further clarification I found the old post from Chatte



If anyone feels like trying to confirm this as the actual translation please give it a try. Feel up to it Rikudo?

Cool, you dug it out. I was looking for that to settle it once and for all. Much like Sasuke's DB2 translation, which ended up being platonic.