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[redrose3443]

@Angelus87 Yeah Kishi said only one one-sided pairing would be happening. So if we look at that, it would mean NH/SS can't happen, cause then both Sakura and Hinata would be getting what they want.( I know Sakura doesn't love Sasuke at this point, I'm just stating how most people see it.) However, if NS happened, then out of the big 3 only one love would be fulfilled. But the problem with that is, unless Kishi wasn't thinking about Karin or he did not plan for Sasuke to get with anybody( which I could see), then NS would be in the same boat as SS/NH.

[Angelus87]

Definitely. Since the war began SS was displayed negatively and Sasuke is being shown as an indifferent shady character. There have been NS hints, but they have been subtle so far and I think your right, NaruSaku4life3g, it's gaining momentum for something big in the future.

If Naruto and Sasuke will defeat Madara they will be out of gas so i quess Naruto vs Sasuke fight will be postponed. they will all comeback to village to regenerate or will they fight for Hokage tittle after death of Madara? That s something i thinking in last months. I wonder what kishi have in hat ^^

 

Yeah Kishi said only one one-sided pairing would be happening. So if we look at that, it would mean NH/SS can't happen, cause then both Sakura and Hinata would be getting what they want.( I know Sakura doesn't love Sasuke at this point, I'm just stating how most people see it.) However, if NS happened, then out of the big 3 only one love would be fulfilled. But the problem with that is, unless Kishi wasn't thinking about Karin or he did not plan for Sasuke to get with anybody( which I could see), then NS would be in the same boat as SS/NH.

true if SS then NH would rather happen so its 2 one sided pairings. But its only theory for us

 

I wouldn't say its a minor subplot, hell kitten motivates like nearly 50% of the story.

True i call this hidden genre of Naruto. Love herself in Naruto have big impact on story for example MK or Obito-Rin. If not those we would not have plot going like that. do you think Naruto would save Sakura from Gaara in part1 if he didnt loved her?  he said that "I will protect her"

Edited by Angelus87, 16 May 2014 - 08:34 PM.

[Nic]

If kishi really wanted to make one pairing canon that would basically have thrown out SS's chances right then and there, since the one pairing would clearly be one formed around his main character.

[Nic]

If Naruto and Sasuke will defeat Madara they will be out of gas so i quess Naruto vs Sasuke fight will be postponed. they will all comeback to village to regenerate or will they fight for Hokage tittle after death of Madara? That s something i thinking in last months. I wonder what kishi have in hat ^^

true if SS then NH would rather happen so its 2 one sided pairings. But its only theory for us

True i call this hidden genre of Naruto. Love herself in Naruto have big impact on story for example MK or Obito-Rin. If not those we would not have plot going like that. do you think Naruto would save Sakura from Gaara in part1 if he didnt loved her?  he said that "I will protect her"

 

Kishi has been somewhat obvious with why Naruto and Sasuke will fight each other and honestly it isn't over being Hokage that is going to be the main reason.  It's due to Sasuke's plans of destroying the bijuu and thus having to kill Naruto in the process to reach his new dream.

[redrose3443]

If kishi really wanted to make one pairing canon that would basically have thrown out SS's chances right then and there, since the one pairing would clearly be one formed around his main character.

Yeah, but he could've paired Naruto up with Hinata, if he did SS. So naruto would have still gotten someone either way.

[redrose3443]

 

Kishi has been somewhat obvious with why Naruto and Sasuke will fight each other and honestly it isn't over being Hokage that is going to be the main reason.  It's due to Sasuke's plans of destroying the bijuu and thus having to kill Naruto in the process to reach his new dream.

Now that makes sense.

[Gojira]

At any rate its a good thing Sasuke is so easily influenced to leave the village and then become evil otherwise Team 7 would be stuck in a love triangle deadlock. Hell who knows Sasuke might've actually retruned those feelings (not likely but whatever)

Also from the Kishi interview I wonder if he really hadn't considered making any of the pairs canon before like he said...I guess we have that one random interviewer to thank for making NS eventually canon.

[Nic]

At any rate its a good thing Sasuke is so easily influenced to leave the village and then become evil otherwise Team 7 would be stuck in a love triangle deadlock. Hell who knows Sasuke might've actually retruned those feelings (not likely but whatever)

Also from the Kishi interview I wonder if he really hadn't considered making any of the pairs canon before like he said...I guess we have that one random interviewer to thank for making NS eventually canon.

 

not sure I follow but then again, i'm not in tune with the interviews.

[Gojira]

not sure I follow but then again, i'm not in tune with the interviews.

[redrose3443]

 

not sure I follow but then again, i'm not in tune with the interviews.

I think he's saying if it wasn't for the interviewer, kishi possibly would have never made any pairing canon.

 

Btw when was that interview made?

Edited by redrose3443, 16 May 2014 - 09:05 PM.

[Silent Storm]

Sasuke and Sakura were never meant to / should be a couple.

 

It lacks the chemistry of NaruSaku and has been a constant detriment to Sakura's character.

 

Sasuke is well aware of her feelings yet still couldn't care less for her wellbeing

 

Why do people support pairings that lack chemistry and looks borderline abusive?

 

Sasuke has made 3 attempts at Sakura's life and hasn't acknowledged her as a ninja or as a friend (or person).

 

Atleast NaruHina has that luxury, despite that being another pairing that lacks any chemistry.

 

Sasuke even apologized to Karin for nearly killing her ONCE. Sasuke has done none of this to Sakura and didn't even care that she got stabbed.

 

I don't know why people support this pairing. Sasuke is not interested. Never has been.

Edited by Silent Storm, 16 May 2014 - 09:20 PM.

[Nic]

I actually took that as him having one pairing in mind all along, or he'd never have mentioning making one canon in the first place. lol  Isn't that interview though like 10+ years old, I've seen it before.

[redrose3443]

Sasuke and Sakura were never meant to / should be a couple.

 

It lacks the chemistry of NaruSaku and has been a constant detriment to Sakura's character.

 

Sasuke is well aware of her feelings yet still couldn't care less for her wellbeing

 

Why do people support pairings that lack chemistry and looks borderline abusive?

 

Sasuke has made 3 attempts at Sakura's life and hasn't acknowledged her as a ninja or as a friend (or person).

 

Atleast NaruHina has that luxury, despite that being another pairing that lacks any chemistry.

 

Sasuke even apologized to Karin for nearly killing her ONCE. Sasuke has done none of this to Sakura and didn't even care that she got stabbed.

 

I don't know why people support this pairing. Sasuke is not interested. Never has been.

I honestly don't know either. It makes absolutely no sense, because it was never a positive love for Sakura and Sasuke never has/will acknowledge it. There is the slimest chance he could acknowledge her as a ninja, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

[Angelus87]

We dont need to look in late chapters. Last few give us a lot of hints. Most people think what Kakashi said mean her feelings matured for Sasuke. I think its immposible that way mainly because there was no reason for those feelings to mature or grow. Contact with Sasuke from begin was on low level for Sakura. More like when Kakashi said her feelings changed that are not same like few years ago. Also that she want save him from darkness sound like her will to do at least that.

 

At any rate its a good thing Sasuke is so easily influenced to leave the village and then become evil otherwise Team 7 would be stuck in a love triangle deadlock. Hell who knows Sasuke might've actually retruned those feelings (not likely but whatever)

Plot was made to Sasuke leave village from begin.

 

I actually took that as him having one pairing in mind all along, or he'd never have mentioning making one canon in the first place. lol  Isn't that interview though like 10+ years old, I've seen it before.

if its true then it inter when was 1 part of manga. If Kishi decide set some kind of pairing development in part 2 also sugest mainly NS

Edited by Angelus87, 16 May 2014 - 09:39 PM.

[Jake]

Well, maybe you are right. But if its possible for you, just read Chatte's analysis on this matter. She has great insights on it and has explained it pretty well too on her blog. Its just a matter of perspective, really. No offence to your post, but I choose to believe what the pic is trying to convey. We can have different opinions right?

 

Yes we can have differing opinions. But within that last hundred chapters the same symbol has only appeared on three (well technically four) characters, Naruto, Hashirama, Asura (and technically Madara but he got it by stealing Senjutsu Chakra from Hashirama), this symbol which seems to be more related to Asura then anything. Another thing to keep in mind is that Indra was originally depicted with a spiral pattern dojutsu which was presumably his Mangekyo but that does not connect him with the Uzumaki family.

 

 

well maybe Asura and Sakura's clan are connected? 

 

it sounds out there....but it does look an awful lot like Sakura's circle.

 

why did Kishi make it look so similar?

 

Well she is the future wife oh his latest reincarnation isn't she?

 

 

What I don't get is why Minata had the spirals if he wasn't restraining any of dark Kurama's power. He should've had the open circles too.

 

It's probably not relevant to the story, but I still like how Naruto and Sakura are wearing each others symbols now. I think it would be nice if a passing mention of it is done, even if it's referred to as a funny coincidence.

 

Well even after befriending Kurama and gaining the second cloak, when Naruto would go back to using his first cloak it still had the spirals.

[Solid-Samurai233]

I was happy when Sasuke left because when he did Naruto and Sakura started getting amazing character development as individual characters and as a pairing. This character development has continued throughout part 2 and only recedes when it has to do with their feelings about saving Sasuke or anything to do with Sasuke really. These feelings just cause them an unnecessary amount of grief in my opinion.

Edited by Solid-Samurai233, 16 May 2014 - 09:58 PM.

[Nic]

We dont need to look in late chapters. Last few give us a lot of hints. Most people think what Kakashi said mean her feelings matured for Sasuke. I think its immposible that way mainly because there was no reason for those feelings to mature or grow. Contact with Sasuke from begin was on low level for Sakura. More like when Kakashi said her feelings changed that are not same like few years ago. Also that she want save him from darkness sound like her will to do at least that.

Plot was made to Sasuke leave village from begin.

if its true then it inter when was 1 part of manga. If Kishi decide set some kind of pairing development in part 2 also sugest mainly NS

NS was getting hints in part 1.  I think Sakura's private smiles to herself upon learning that Naruto rescued her and her smile on that balcony after Naruto promised to bring back Sasuke to her were some of our first hints after Shikamaru's dad said to his son that a woman will smile for the person she loves.  Anyways my reasoning for why he had a pairing in mind all this time from that interview is because whenever authors state they have a certain ending in mind in an interview they always state they just need to figure out how to get to it.

[redrose3443]

I was happy when Sasuke left because when he did Naruto and Sakura started getting amazing character development as individual characters and as a pairing. This character development has continued throughout part 2 and only recedes when it has to do with their feelings about saving Sasuke or anything to do with Sasuke really. These feelings just cause them an unnecessary amount of grief in my opinion.

I agree completely. Whenever Sauke is thrown into the mix, their character development suffers and so do they.

[Silent Storm]

675 was also dragged out longer than it should have been.

 

People looked too much into what Kakashi meant and paid absolutely no attention to the context of that scene and let their own bias embarrass themselves.

 

To some degree I also have bias but that doesn't stop me from looking at scenes from a neutral perspective.

 

Taking into consideration what has happened between the two, it doesn't get as clear cut as this. Sakura now knows the kind of character Sasuke is, and it's a person that has caused her nothing but pain since the beginning. From not considering her feelings to outright becoming a criminal and murdering people / abducting a host. She no longer harbors romantic feelings.

 

However due to their shared history and the fact that he was a teammate who she considers a friend, also the fact that he was her first love, no matter what she can't discard Sasuke and feels she needs to save someone who she at the very least considers a friend from darkness. There are still feelings, but they are very likely not romantic at this point now that she knows the kind of character he is.

 

That is why Kakashi called her a kind girl. She still has feelings of friendship towards a criminal and wants to save him as a friend.

 

That its. Clear cut and makes sense within the context of the story.

 

But supporters dragged it out and made it more complicated than was.

 

Absolutely ridiculous.

 

IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE for whatever feelings she has to evolve into full blown. From a crush to full love for a person that couldn't care less about your well being shows extreme levels of immaturity and naivety.

 

Just what is it about Sasuke that Sakura is so attracted to? What qualities does he have as a person that makes her react strongly towards him?

 

I can understand it during part 1. The cool, dark, mysterious genius who seems reliable.

 

But are you seriously trying to tell me after spending 3+ years away from him after abandoning you and your village, only to become a criminal and endanger your life 3 times, that you LOVE this person? Love is also a strong term that shouldn't be used loosely. Infatuation is nothing like love.

 

JUST WHAT DOES SHE SEE IN HIM?

 

I'm starting to wonder if Sakura has subconsciously cast a genjutsu on herself xD.....

 

.....of course, that is assuming her crush has evolved into full blown love, which I highly doubt.

 

I would expect someone like Kishimoto wouldn't make such a mess of things, or maybe I am giving him too much credit.

 

kitten me.

 

I just don't know anymore. :(

 

What I do know though is that supporters of this abusive pairing have probably been hit with a genjutsu. xD

 

Spoiler

I'm kidding

 

Spoiler

Am I?

Edited by Silent Storm, 16 May 2014 - 10:18 PM.

[Angelus87]

NS was getting hints in part 1.  I think Sakura's private smiles to herself upon learning that Naruto rescued her and her smile on that balcony after Naruto promised to bring back Sasuke to her were some of our first hints after Shikamaru's dad said to his son that a woman will smile for the person she loves.  Anyways my reasoning for why he had a pairing in mind all this time from that interview is because whenever authors state they have a certain ending in mind in an interview they always state they just need to figure out how to get to it.

Still that time Sakura had still this fangirl love in Sasuke. Naruto was more likely 'liked' by her not 'loved'. Now that we are at end of 4th ninja war i think we can more or less quess how Kishi will try to close this case. Also this CPR that happened in war s also big hint even its should not be called kiss. More like how she was desperate to save Naruto resemble how Tsunade wanted to save Dan