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[redragon88]

Sadly there is a limit to how many post you can like in one day because this post is nothing but pure win.

 

Anyhow I notice you touch something I was pointing out about Sasuke having real genuine romantic feelings for Sakura, don't get my wrong but I believe Sasuke feeling that way about Sakura at this stage is ludicrous, Crazy all the insane meaning you can use to go along with that kind of thinking, What I meant is that I wanted to believe Sasuke will have some interest in Sakura just because, in a cynical way I see Sasuke saying that he wants to be Hokage and Sakura liked him in the past so now that she strong and independent I want her to be my woman giving life to the love triangle. Looking on the love triangle with Sakura still loving him and having expectation for a future with him will not allow me to see NS with good eyes, I even made a comment about this after charter 631.

 

Precisely, it's less about people fearing a possible SS moment and more about fearing that Sakura will be portrayed with an expectation to be together with Sasuke. That scenario would definitely go against her progression as a character. The next time that her feelings for Sasuke get addressed it needs to be in a very serious and reflective manner. It shouldn't be in any sort of happy yearning that would resemble what happened in Road to Ninja:

 

 

In Road to Ninja this was acceptable for the sake of development within the movie, but the manga is different. Sakura should already be past this stage and any indication of her going back to it will be judged as a regression of her character and bad writing.

 

Sakura in the manga right now should be in the emotional stage equivalent to after she finds Charasuke flirting with other girls, she should already be realizing that what she feels for him is not true love.

 

It's ok if Sakura might blush or feel flattered if Sasuke gives her a compliment, just like it happened when Inari told her she was beautiful after their reunion, but she shouldn't at any moment imply she has expectation for Sasuke and her to be together. She needs to think of her feelings in a reflective manner from now on for her development to keep itself logical and consistent.

 

Now people, don't misunderstand this as me saying that Sakura acted hopeful or with expectations in 632. Even I know that this was just a Team 7 moment when you see the chapter for what it is. What I'm saying is that future chapters shouldn't reintroduce Sakura's feelings for Sasuke in any sort of hopeful way because of what I explained above. It needs to be serious and reflective in order to be believable and well written.

 

Sakura's progression as a character shouldn't come at the cost of temporary regression. If that happened it would have lasting effects in the credibility and strength of her growing feelings for Naruto.

 

What people didn't like about 632 is the implication of Team 7 returning to how they were in the beginning, therefore negating all of their growth and development in regards to their feelings. It's the implication that Sakura might go back to how she used to be that got people annoyed. The moment was clearly simple comedy, but fans misinterpreted it and therefore disliked it.

[HauntedCake]

 

Precisely, it's less about people fearing a possible SS moment and more about fearing that Sakura will be portrayed with an expectation to be together with Sasuke. That scenario would definitely go against her progression as a character. The next time that her feelings for Sasuke get addressed it needs to be in a very serious and reflective manner. It shouldn't be in any sort of happy yearning that would resemble what happened in Road to Ninja:

 

 

In Road to Ninja this was acceptable for the sake of development within the movie, but the manga is different. Sakura should already be past this stage and any indication of her going back to it will be judged as a regression of her character and bad writing.

 

Sakura in the manga right now should be in the emotional stage equivalent to after she finds Charasuke flirting with other girls, she should already be realizing that what she feels for him is not true love.

 

It's ok if Sakura might blush or feel flattered if Sasuke gives her a compliment, just like it happened when Inari told her she was beautiful after their reunion, but she shouldn't at any moment imply she has expectation for Sasuke and her to be together. She needs to think of her feelings in a reflective manner from now on for her development to keep itself logical and consistent.

 

Now people, don't misunderstand this as me saying that Sakura acted hopeful or with expectations in 632. Even I know that this was just a Team 7 moment when you see the chapter for what it is. What I'm saying is that future chapters shouldn't reintroduce Sakura's feelings for Sasuke in any sort of hopeful way because of what I explained above. It needs to be serious and reflective in order to be believable and well written.

 

Sakura's progression as a character shouldn't come at the cost of temporary regression. If that happened it would have lasting effects in the credibility and strength of her growing feelings for Naruto.

 

What people didn't like about 632 is the implication of Team 7 returning to how they were in the beginning, therefore negating all of their growth and development in regards to their feelings. It's the implication that Sakura might go back to how she used to be that got people annoyed. The moment was clearly simple comedy, but fans misinterpreted it and therefore disliked it.

Great post!

 

That image!!!!! urghhh makes me sick eveytime i see it

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Precisely, it's less about people fearing a possible SS moment and more about fearing that Sakura will be portrayed with an expectation to be together with Sasuke. That scenario would definitely go against her progression as a character. The next time that her feelings for Sasuke get addressed it needs to be in a very serious and reflective manner. It shouldn't be in any sort of happy yearning that would resemble what happened in Road to Ninja:
 

 
In Road to Ninja this was acceptable for the sake of development within the movie, but the manga is different. Sakura should already be past this stage and any indication of her going back to it will be judged as a regression of her character and bad writing.
 
Sakura in the manga right now should be in the emotional stage equivalent to after she finds Charasuke flirting with other girls, she should already be realizing that what she feels for him is not true love.
 
It's ok if Sakura might blush or feel flattered if Sasuke gives her a compliment, just like it happened when Inari told her she was beautiful after their reunion, but she shouldn't at any moment imply she has expectation for Sasuke and her to be together. She needs to think of her feelings in a reflective manner from now on for her development to keep itself logical and consistent.
 
Now people, don't misunderstand this as me saying that Sakura acted hopeful or with expectations in 632. Even I know that this was just a Team 7 moment when you see the chapter for what it is. What I'm saying is that future chapters shouldn't reintroduce Sakura's feelings for Sasuke in any sort of hopeful way because of what I explained above. It needs to be serious and reflective in order to be believable and well written.
 
Sakura's progression as a character shouldn't come at the cost of temporary regression. If that happened it would have lasting effects in the credibility and strength of her growing feelings for Naruto.
 
What people didn't like about 632 is the implication of Team 7 returning to how they were in the beginning, therefore negating all of their growth and development in regards to their feelings. It's the implication that Sakura might go back to how she used to be that got people annoyed. The moment was clearly simple comedy, but fans misinterpreted it and therefore disliked it.

Well to be fair, in that movie, she thought in that world, they're dating or at least Sasuke is romantically interest in her, to the point she thought he cares for her the most. But now that's out of the way, let's talk about the manga.

I don't know what Kishi is going to do next. I know it's going to be rough to some because well let's think this. How far nostalgic factor would go for Team 7? Does he think fangirl moment is comedy? Does he think it will help to fuel shipping war? I don't know the answer. Then again, they don't have to be like past, rather showcase the update. Like NH moment (just go with it) in 615. She didn't stutter or anything because she's strong and can go independent now. She didn't go back to part 1. So yeah, how far would Kishi go? Would he go far because the chance is that we won't this old Team 7 feeling ever again, especially once Sakura finally move on. So yeah, it's a big guess on my end as well.

[HauntedCake]

Maybe he origionally had plans to include a deep SS closure. Seen as the manga has definatly picked up pace, maybe he might spare us all that and cut straight to the point so to speak. In honesty i hope he spares us SS as much as possible

[TouKen4Life3g]

Maybe he origionally had plans to include a deep SS closure. Seen as the manga has definatly picked up pace, maybe he might spare us all that and cut straight to the point so to speak. In honesty i hope he spares us SS as much as possible

The best hope is to resolve SS part before Sasuke goes heel again and then the next phase, it's to find out whether her love life would ever exist or there has been one (Naruto). I would like that but who knows.

[catsi563]

The only SS resolution we are likely to receive given the basics of the story to date are the following.

 

1) Sasuke officially acknowledging Sakura as an equal and member of team 7, youre strong, and have grown stronger I acknowledge you.

 

2) a recognition of her feelings, possibly a clarification of the Thank you, and a reveal of the bench scene It wasn't me.

 

those are the only realistic resolutions that I can personaly see happening given the current plot and the development of the characters to date which includes Sasukes development with Karin.

[HauntedCake]

The best hope is to resolve SS part before Sasuke goes heel again and then the next phase, it's to find out whether her love life would ever exist or there has been one (Naruto). I would like that but who knows.

Bolded: i don't like to think about it like that, she has shown she could have a great love life with Naruto, granted he's a Baka but that's just one of the reasons she loves him.

 

Sasuke is the real reason her love life doesn't exist in any manner atm

[TouKen4Life3g]

Bolded: i don't like to think about it like that, she has shown she could have a great love life with Naruto, granted he's a Baka but that's just one of the reasons she loves him.
 
Sasuke is the real reason her love life doesn't exist in any manner atm

I guess you can say it that way. Sometimes, a woman would feel like they got no love in their life, but that's up to guys to recount that to the point they may have to put themselves out there. Like:

Sakura: I'm not in love with Sasuke anymore.
Naruto: Eh?!?!?!
Sakura: Yeah. But you know, I don't think there's anyone for me. No one likes me in a love sense. I guess because of this monster strength, I'm not that womanly enough.
Naruto: That's true
Sakura: !!!
Naruto: But it's not true that there's no love for you. Anyone will die for you. There's many guys. Out there, in Konoha,.....in here.
Sakura: O-oh....

And you can fill in if you want to. Will it happen? Don't know, but it's there as a possibility.

[Don-kun]

The only SS resolution we are likely to receive given the basics of the story to date are the following.

 

1) Sasuke officially acknowledging Sakura as an equal and member of team 7, you're strong, and have grown stronger, showing that he finally acknowledge her.

 

2) a recognition of her feelings, possibly a clarification of the Thank you, and a reveal of the bench scene It wasn't me.

 

those are the only realistic resolutions that I can personally see happening given the current plot and the development of the characters to date which includes Sasukes development with Karin.

1st part I agree

 

1st Bolded

Recognition of her feelings could imply she accepting that he would always be something dare to her but the desire to be with him is no longer there since she has stronger feelings and romantic expectation for someone else.

 

Thank you part: don't know what to speculate.

 

2nd Bolded .

He needs to be careful with that part, but I honestly believe it would be much better if he hint Naruto making some kind of a comment regarding her 4head, I still believe that is a great reason of why her hope where that strong in the first place but Kishi never have her directly think about when she trying to kill Sasuke because NS would be too obvious.

But he still brought back that scene in her confession, in the Poal and lastly in her confession to Naruto without siting the complement part.

 

About the rest No comment.

 

 

 

 

Sorry for kind of changing your post.

Edited by Don-kun, 01 June 2013 - 08:37 PM.

[StriderC]

LOL I just realized on the last page that that's not only Amaterasu that's burning but the RasenShuriken is in full affect.    I'm sooooo slowwwwwwww!! 

[HauntedCake]

I guess you can say it that way. Sometimes, a woman would feel like they got no love in their life, but that's up to guys to recount that to the point they may have to put themselves out there. Like:

Sakura: I'm not in love with Sasuke anymore.
Naruto: Eh?!?!?!
Sakura: Yeah. But you know, I don't think there's anyone for me. No one likes me in a love sense. I guess because of this monster strength, I'm not that womanly enough.
Naruto: That's true
Sakura: !!!
Naruto: But it's not true that there's no love for you. Anyone will die for you. There's many guys. Out there, in Konoha,.....in here.
Sakura: O-oh....

And you can fill in if you want to. Will it happen? Don't know, but it's there as a possibility.

As of now a scenario with Naruto kind of reflecting Sakura so to speak is impossible. If something like this were to happen i'm sure Sakura would be subtly asking Naruto if he loves her like:

 

Sakura: I'm sure someone likes/loves me around here... (Hinting at Naruto)

[TouKen4Life3g]

As of now a scenario with Naruto kind of reflecting Sakura so to speak is impossible. If something like this were to happen i'm sure Sakura would be subtly asking Naruto if he loves her like:
 
Sakura: I'm sure someone likes/loves me around here... (Hinting at Naruto)

That would be a good tease. I always say that the confession should start off with comedy like Naruto make it seem like it's shocking but Sakura will tell him, "I know already." Naruto would be like how, which Sakura tells him it was Sai and he will go all mad at him without him being presence. The rest is history. I want to know how Kishi will do this. I don't know if it's on hold for much later moments or it can be played here.

[HauntedCake]

I guess you can say it that way. Sometimes, a woman would feel like they got no love in their life, but that's up to guys to recount that to the point they may have to put themselves out there. Like:

Sakura: I'm not in love with Sasuke anymore.
Naruto: Eh?!?!?!
Sakura: Yeah. But you know, I don't think there's anyone for me. No one likes me in a love sense. I guess because of this monster strength, I'm not that womanly enough.
Naruto: That's true
Sakura: !!!
Naruto: But it's not true that there's no love for you. Anyone will die for you. There's many guys. Out there, in Konoha,.....in here.
Sakura: O-oh....

And you can fill in if you want to. Will it happen? Don't know, but it's there as a possibility.

BTW we could alter this scenario so when Sakura says shes not womanly enough naruto could go on to tell her she is leading to forehead > his confession > NS

[TouKen4Life3g]

BTW we could alter this scenario so when Sakura says shes not womanly enough naruto could go on to tell her she is leading to forehead > his confession > NS

You know, the more I think about it, the more I see that comment to seal the deal. The only question is when is he going to do it.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

The only SS resolution we are likely to receive given the basics of the story to date are the following.

 

1) Sasuke officially acknowledging Sakura as an equal and member of team 7, youre strong, and have grown stronger I acknowledge you.

 

2) a recognition of her feelings, possibly a clarification of the Thank you, and a reveal of the bench scene It wasn't me.

 

those are the only realistic resolutions that I can personaly see happening given the current plot and the development of the characters to date which includes Sasukes development with Karin.

What the...?
He already acknowledged her on Sakura's confession, it's not something that Sasuke must say, she feels that she's equal towards both of them and the only acknowledgment that was left is her acknowledging that she's not na useless and can do stuff for Naruto which happened on the last two chapters, Naruto acknowledged her with his smile, as for Sasuke it was on Sakura's confession with the thank you, when he acknowledged her as his teammate.
There's nothing that can happen between SS and NS to make it canon, it's just Sakura who needs to realize, or give an answer does she still loves Sasuke or is loves Naruto.
The last thing aside aside from pairings happened on the latest chapter when she fulfilled her promise regarding team 7 there's nothing left for Sakura just her romance subplot.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 01 June 2013 - 08:51 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

Bolded: How can she choose between a love and a friend? Surely they both have to be love interests?

You'll be surprised how much of a difficult choice that can be especially when your love and your friend are enemies and almost hate each other. For Sakura, it will be a difficult choice.

Plus, it is either that OR she still has feelings for Sasuke, which destroys her character development in most fans' eyes giving her a poor reputation even more, and has to choose based on a guy who treats her like crap and a guy who treats her like she was the sunlight in his universe. The second part is so....cliche and to this day when a story does it I always scratch my head at the idea that she is actually contemplating on staying with the man who doesn't want her.
 

I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, James. :)

That's why I said we shouldn't overreact: Sakura reacting to Sasuke didn't have any romantic subplot (at least for me). She treats him more like a teammate/comrade. She always wanted team 7 to reunite and fight together once again: that's what happened. I think she's just happy that her team is reunited and that she's finally strong enough to fight alongside Naruto and Sasuke.

After everything what's happened so far, I don't think that Sakura will show any sights of romance/affection towards Sasuke. The lingering feelings should be addressed anyway. It's not like you loved someone and then *pop*: you forget everything all of a sudden. Those feeling could be anything.. it's not necessarily some strong affection. The only positive SS moments I can remember are the "thank you" and the bench scenes. Although we know that the latter is a NS moment, Sakura doesn't know that it was Naruto who complimented her forehead. Once she finds out, she'll realize that Sasuke never loved her back and that she never really had a reason to love him.

The "lingering feelings" is such a...hard topic to address upon. Because we are aware of how messed up these fanbases can be about this. Even a simple nudge can be taken so far. Which is why I suggest that this kind of topic doesn't come up until the final decision is shown whether it be in the end of the manga or at the end of the juubi attack.

That's what I would do if I was writing this story because if you bring up a moment and say "Well, I won't answer that till later." It will quite possibly ruin any respect you tried so hard to build up and finally got.

Any hint...and the fanbase will explode. Not just us, but the entire fanbase.

 

The thing is that some fans want to read what Sakura is saying by their own way. For example, when Sakura said in this chapter " Sasuke -kun ", they made it sound like she has the childish crush on him, whereas she was saying it cause she's happy that the person, who was her teammate and was against her and Naruto, now defending her. Happy for what's he doing now... backing her up.

 

She has her leftover feelings for him, but Kishi isn't bringing them up now. The whole last page was to show Team 7 dynamic and back to back.

Unfortunitly, you can't change the way fans want to think....BUT you can prevent them from reaching a conclusion you didn't want them to reach by your own mistake.

Does she have leftover feelings? Some say yes, but is no big deal. Some say yes and it will play a part. Others say no and this is just comradery. Kishi has left it ambiguous enough that it could be any one of them or none of them. Point is, he doesn't need to re-open up a can of worms just to reestablish it exists and create more useless drama. It will devastate Sakura's character more and this is a hard truth we must admit. It is stupid, I am not gonna lie, but it is truth that it is like walking on eggshells cause fans don't know the difference.

We just have to wait and see. Yes, eventually he will answer the questions, but I hope he doesn't try to "troll" us with those kind of scenes till the topic actually becomes important.


@reddragon

You have a dog and his name is...BINGO
 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 01 June 2013 - 08:59 PM.

[HauntedCake]

You'll be surprised how much of a difficult choice that can be especially when your love and your friend are enemies and almost hate each other. For Sakura, it will be a difficult choice.

Plus, it is either that OR she still has feelings for Sasuke, which destroys her character development in most fans' eyes giving her a poor reputation even more, and has to choose based on a guy who treats her like crap and a guy who treats her like she was the sunlight in his universe. The second part is so....cliche and to this day when a story does it I always scratch my head at the idea that she is actually contemplating on staying with the man who doesn't want her.
 

But Naruto isn't just a friend anymore, she's practically choosing between the two boys she loves

 

In other words choosing between a friend and someone you love over a matter of who you want to be romantically involved in seems odd?? Because you LOVE one but are only a friend with the other...

 

Not much of a choice... do you get what i'm saying?

Edited by HauntedCake, 01 June 2013 - 08:56 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

But Naruto isn't just a friend anymore, she's practically choosing between the two boys she loves

The next chapters are really going to be full of drama.
Because really since team 7 is reunited briefly i guess that everyone is just expecting to not have SS moments.

To be honest i'm hoping fo 0 SS moments.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 01 June 2013 - 08:56 PM.

[Don-kun]

The next chapters are really going to be full of drama.
Because really since team 7 is reunited briefly i guess that everyone is just expecting to not have SS moments.

To be honest i'm hoping fo 0 SS moments.

Do you mind elaborating on what kind of SS moment you're expecting since it's kind of hard for me to see one that doesn't make Sakura look hopeless and Naruto like a wimp.

So if you don't mind tell me what you meant.

 

Never mind I just notice that you said 0 if that's the case them ignore my question.

Edited by Don-kun, 01 June 2013 - 09:03 PM.

[Akashi]

The "lingering feelings" is such a...hard topic to address upon. Because we are aware of how messed up these fanbases can be about this. Even a simple nudge can be taken so far. Which is why I suggest that this kind of topic doesn't come up until the final decision is shown whether it be in the end of the manga or at the end of the juubi attack.

That's what I would do if I was writing this story because if you bring up a moment and say "Well, I won't answer that till later." It will quite possibly ruin any respect you tried so hard to build up and finally got.

Any hint...and the fanbase will explode. Not just us, but the entire fanbase.

Well I don't Kishi will do more damage to Sakura's character. That'd be stupid.
Right now is the action time: no space for romance (although he might throw some minor NS hints). Plus I don't think you should concern yourself what haters think... It's not like their words will affect the story in any way.