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#1841 sushi.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:37 PM

Yeah but then Tsunade say "Naruto may look like Minato, but acts and fights like Kushina"

 

But I think Sakura's fighting style is more similar to Minato. Not in their abilities, but how they use them/their tactic.

 

Naruto has bits of both Kushina and Minato in him(not only in looks), same with Sakura. But still, Naruto is this generation's Minato, and Sakura is Kushina. He is also Jiraiya and Obito, and she is also Tsunade and Rin.

 

We don't know what Jiraiya spesifically meant. He could've meant "You have a similar appearance to Minato", but I think it is "I can almost see Minato in you".


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 04:19 PM

Off-topic:

 

Just got my Naruto Volume 61 and Season 3 box set minutes ago W000T!!! :party:

 

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Neat. Now I know you're in Europe just by looking at the box set. Lol.

 

ah yeah. the volume 61... it was an asspulling volume. Kabuto's story was really bad to me

 

I remember when it was out the jap volume 63, I was so fibrillated about the revelation of tobi's identidy and so I bought it since i was an huge fan of the theory "tobi=obito".

 

Of course I will do the same when NS will be canonized :pimp:

Well, I didn't mind that much about Kabuto. It's just the battle that coincidentally Itachi have in mind to stop it without killing him. I mean wow, what timing he had to bring up that. Granted, it is part of mythology, so the name has always been there, but I wish they could have build it up or mention like "There's another technique, one that is opposite, but it is not suitable for battle anyway. Only leads to trapped illusions" or something like from Tobi if anyone. Oh well.

 

I found a Japanese blog dedicated to NaruSaku. It's called "NaruSaku Love, Foreshadowing, Study Observations". And wow, it's like they are scholars with their thorough research throughout the story. It has many pictures so even if you don't understand Japanese, it's worth going like a NaruSaku moment library or something. 

 

http://narusaku0403.blog.fc2.com/

Oh. Nice. Time to practice on my Japanese.

 

It's like this.

 

"FINALLY! THIS MOMENT HAS COME! YEEEESSSSSSS!" 

 

 

You know this blog has brought up one parallel. 

Naruto being similar to Minato has been proven by Jiraiya in the Tsunade arc. 

Jiraiya said to Naruto, that Naruto is extremely similar to the Fourth Hokage.

 

I completely forgot about this scene until I read this blog! Another parallel confirmed!

I remember that scene. Yes, that's true. Haha, liking the site already.

 

Yeah but then Tsunade say "Naruto may look like Minato, but acts and fights like Kushina"

 

But I think Sakura's fighting style is more similar to Minato. Not in their abilities, but how they use them/their tactic.

 

Naruto has bits of both Kushina and Minato in him(not only in looks), same with Sakura. But still, Naruto is this generation's Minato, and Sakura is Kushina. He is also Jiraiya and Obito, and she is also Tsunade and Rin.

 

We don't know what Jiraiya spesifically meant. He could've meant "You have a similar appearance to Minato", but I think it is "I can almost see Minato in you".

If I remember correctly, they said by the end of the day, when they grow up, Minato is more to Naruto as they both agree on that. You can say Naruto still got Kushina's traits, but he will end up being like 65% Minato like. I mean in a way, Kushina's last words pretty much say it all, including hoping he is more of Minato in terms of mastering as a ninja since she said she didn't do that well. But either way, the parallel is still solid and you can't break it.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 04:26 PM

No offense but can I facepalm myself?

 

Where the shippers see romance, I just see a really good friendship. Naruto’s feelings for Sakura were just not developed. It went through no progression like Sakura’s did for Sasuke, or Hinata’s did for Naruto. Sakura went through a wonderful progression with Naruto, but as it is now, there is nothing to indicate that what she feels is romance. If anything, her confession to him says that a romance with him is the last thing she wants. Besides, Naruto understands, and doesn’t seem to much care either.

That’s pretty much it. 

 

No hate intended as I respect that person's opinion but I cannot understand how people can say Naruto's feelings WERE NOT developed?! I just...gah!

 

What kills me about this assessment is this part: "If anything, her confession to him says that a romance with him is the last thing she wants.  Besides, Naruto understands, and doesn't seem to much care either."

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This is supposed to be the face of a guy who "doesn't seem to much care" whether Sakura loves him?

Only on Planet Denial.  :twitch:



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 04:33 PM

 

What kills me about this assessment is this part: "If anything, her confession to him says that a romance with him is the last thing she wants.  Besides, Naruto understands, and doesn't seem to much care either."

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This is supposed to be the face of a guy who "doesn't seem to much care" whether Sakura loves him?

Only on Planet Denial.  :twitch:

Right?!

Maan, when NS becomes cannon it's going to hit them hard, really...


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 04:45 PM

Right?!

Maan, when NS becomes cannon it's going to hit them hard, really...

 I find it foolish when I see that saying Kishimoto is a troll or that 631 was badly written and OOC. :ermm: And there are a lot of them.

 

..the amount of respect they have for the series is close to zero. (now I'm not talking about NH fans, just these people)

 

I mean, I would call Kishi a troll if he made NH canon. But it's almost like they expect Naruto to have feelings for Hinata.


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 04:58 PM

Don't worry. I always understand clearly from you. No harm done. It's funny how Uzumaki marries anyone or at least not the restricted which Minato is standalone guy, so more parallel to you with Naruto and Sakura. Lol this is fun.
Oh btw, curious but if Sakura gets Kuruma's chakra by Naruto, can she store that with her seal?

Uzumaki jinchuriki only married the strongest opposite sex from their era. Just like mito married hashirama who was the strongest shinobi and kushina with minato the fastest ninja, and naruto with sakura the strongest KUNOICHI.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:01 PM

Has the Pain arc been dubbed? Im really lookijng foward to watching that. (Yes I like the dub)  But to me the Pain arc was beautifully done, just Naruto in whole, but NS was done superbly as well. That Hug scene and Thank you was beyond words to this day, so I'm excited to see the Eng Dub.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:03 PM

No offense but can I facepalm myself?

 

Where the shippers see romance, I just see a really good friendship. Naruto’s feelings for Sakura were just not developed. It went through no progression like Sakura’s did for Sasuke, or Hinata’s did for Naruto. Sakura went through a wonderful progression with Naruto, but as it is now, there is nothing to indicate that what she feels is romance. If anything, her confession to him says that a romance with him is the last thing she wants. Besides, Naruto understands, and doesn’t seem to much care either.

That’s pretty much it. 

 

No hate intended as I respect that person's opinion but I cannot understand how people can say Naruto's feelings WERE NOT developed?! I just...gah!

 

The last thing she wants? Seriously? Now that's an automatic F right there to the whole paragraph. You might say that person is smart but with a conclusion like that it seems they just let their bias prevent them from seeing things accurately.

 

If a relationship with Naruto was the last thing Sakura wanted she wouldn't have confessed her love to him at all. It's because she feels something for Naruto that she was able to say I love you. The dishonesty of her confession comes from the fact that she still has feelings for Sasuke, not about not feeling love for Naruto. To a smart person that should've been obvious.

 

Even Kishi was annoyed that people thought Sakura had used Naruto's feelings by telling confessing. Sakura didn't confess as a means to an end, she could've gone about making Naruto come back in many different ways. She confessed because that's the option that Sakura desired the most in her heart.

 

So even if her feelings aren't there yet it shows that she does want to have a future with Naruto.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:20 PM

 

The last thing she wants? Seriously? Now that's an automatic F right there to the whole paragraph. You might say that person is smart but with a conclusion like that it seems they just let their bias prevent them from seeing things accurately.

 

If a relationship with Naruto was the last thing Sakura wanted she wouldn't have confessed her love to him at all. It's because she feels something for Naruto that she was able to say I love you. The dishonesty of her confession comes from the fact that she still has feelings for Sasuke, not about not feeling love for Naruto. To a smart person that should've been obvious.

 

Even Kishi was annoyed that people thought Sakura had used Naruto's feelings by telling confessing. Sakura didn't confess as a means to an end, she could've gone about making Naruto come back in many different ways. She confessed because that's the option that Sakura desired the most in her heart.

 

So even if her feelings aren't there yet it shows that she does want to have a future with Naruto.

Bolded: i think they already are but only subconciously and conciously on occasion.


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:24 PM

 

You do realize that pairing isn't happening in Adventure Time? It's probably going to be Flynn and Princess Bubblegum. :P

 

(had to reply to this XD)

 

yea I'm sure it's Peebles and Finn in the end XD

 

and don't be fooled by the gif.....I ship Finn with Bubblegum.

 

I was just getting a point across lol

 

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man....look at that face...he soooo wanted to believe her DX but just couldn't bring himself to it

 

he's like "is this a dream??".....then..."...yea...this can't be real...."


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:34 PM

I found a Japanese blog dedicated to NaruSaku. It's called "NaruSaku Love, Foreshadowing, Study Observations". And wow, it's like they are scholars with their thorough research throughout the story. It has many pictures so even if you don't understand Japanese, it's worth going like a NaruSaku moment library or something. 
 
http://narusaku0403.blog.fc2.com/


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:57 PM

 

 

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man....look at that face...he soooo wanted to believe her DX but just couldn't bring himself to it

 

he's like "is this a dream??".....then..."...yea...this can't be real...."

 

NONSENSE! This clearly shows that Naruto is indifferent to Sakura's feelings and is now thinking of Hinata. :hm:


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:00 PM

There's also something I've been wondering about Sakura's confession. It may be something not too important, but I just can't shake the feeling that there's... something. Let me know what you guys think:

 

http://www.mangapand...hapter-474.html

 

After reading this chapter recently, there's something which caught my attention. And, combined with what Kishi said, this might be the clue I was looking for...

 

Anyway, take a look at the upper right panel and the words coming out of Sai: "Sakura didn't come here to confess her love. She was supposed to tell you the collective decision made by all your former academy classmtes."

 

Now, normally I would take this normally, but then I asked myself: If Sakura was lying, then why didn't Sai say so? I mean, he could've easily said: "Sakura didn't come here to lie to you." I decided to go a bit further and noticed that they didn't use the word "lie" during their discussion (I may need a direct translation from the raws to see if the word "lie" was used or not, though). In fact, it may have reinforced the fact that she was, indeed, being an honest girl:

 

http://www.mangapand...hapter-474.html

 

"Sai - Giving up on Sasuke and choosing you was Sakura's way of freeing you from your promise. She was only thinking of you... and I think you understood that."

 

So my take is not that she lied to Naruto, but that "she covered one truth with another". Yeah, there are parts of her speech which may be considered lies, but overall, my take is that this confession, although in the wrong place and at a wrong time, is probably true (which would make sense considering the fact that Naruto considered Minato's question seriously).

 

 

Anyway, I might consider re-reading Naruto again during the weekend because lately, I've been finding things I've overlooked before. I'm not sure if I'm digging too deep (or if I'm just being captain obvious XD, so I wanted to know what you guys think.


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:01 PM

Has the Pain arc been dubbed? Im really lookijng foward to watching that. (Yes I like the dub)  But to me the Pain arc was beautifully done, just Naruto in whole, but NS was done superbly as well. That Hug scene and Thank you was beyond words to this day, so I'm excited to see the Eng Dub.

http://www.narutonin...lishDubbed.html

 

Here is the link for the english dub buddy  :thumb:


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:41 PM

Dunno if you guys would notice on the other thread so I'll leave something that I, personally, found very interesting and wrote about.

 

http://chatte-georgi...sm-and-narusaku


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:42 PM

Dunno if you guys would notice on the other thread so I'll leave something that I, personally, found very interesting and wrote about.
 
http://chatte-georgi...sm-and-narusaku

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:48 PM

Oh, new Chatte's work. Always great to read.

Hope you'll find this interesting as well. ^_^


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:58 PM

Funny, i just re-read the confession and Sakura does seem very... hesitant/withheld when she hugs him. Just look at those panels, she seems very reluctant to be in close proximity of him like that but with sasuke...yeah you know the rest...

 

This reluctance when she is being "honest" seems very weird? surely she wouldn't be so held back about being physical if she loved him????


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:00 PM

She looked happy to me. She's blushing you can't fake a blush.


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:00 PM

@Shadow Wolf, 4am

 

Hi Shadow Wolf,

 

I'm a newbie, but your analysis in that post seems pretty spot on.  I have been trying to read the manga from the beginning (having started by watching the anime), but I find I have to jump ahead to read about things like Sakura's confession - I know the story already, so no spoilers.

 

But, the manga reader I'm using has a different translation to your website.

 

Same page:

 

The website I use - http://mangafox.me/m...v51/c474/5.html

Your link - http://www.mangapand...hapter-474.html

 

Your link's wording goes better with the actual character expressions.  Would you say that the website I have been using is a bit dodgy with Naruto translations?

 

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What manga reader does everyone use for accurate translations of the Japanese meanings?






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