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[redragon88]

Bolded You bet! The female character, Kotoko, starts off having a huge crush on the most popular boy in school, Naoki, (the male character.) He thinks she's annoying, but due to certain events, her family gets stuck living in the same house as his family. Over time, Naoki starts to warm up to Kotoko and eventually falls in love with her, (despite being a complete ass to her for most of the series.)

I don't agree with saying that SasuSaku fans, in particular, have this problem, but I do agree that it's an issue for the pairing itself. NaruHina faces the same problem, actually. If Naruto was a classic shoujo series, there's no doubt in my mind that NaruHina and SasuSaku would be canon. However, the fact of the matter is that this series does not have heavy focus on romance. Sakura's love for Sasuke and Hinata's love for Naruto are not a priority, and nothing so far has shown that either Naruto or Sasuke have changed their feelings about the girls.

Not to mention that Naruto and Sakura have the actual build up of warming up to each other that it's common for a couple-to-be to have in order to properly make them canon whether they are from shounen or shoujo, and no matter which personality archetype they belong to.

I do remember there being a certain Build-up thread of NaruSaku made by a pretty cool girl around here. Who was she again?

Edited by redragon88, 01 May 2013 - 02:14 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Not to mention that Naruto and Sakura have the actual build up of warming up to each other that it's common for a couple-to-be to have in order to properly make them canon.

I do remember there being a certain Build-up thread of NaruSaku made by a pretty cool girl around here. Who was she again?

Yeah, I would like to know too. Because of that thread, I can't think of anything else anymore. Nothing will change me, as if I am Naruto. I wish I can rep that person.

[Slextrem]

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[TouKen4Life3g]

Aw, shucks~ You guys are making me blush~

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You know, looking at your set, I wish they used that design for the show, but then again, it is a kid show. Still, they should try one anime spin-off, garner for teenagers. A man can dream.

I would like a Naruto spin-off like a different time zone, setting, etc. I guess that's either fans or anime studio to do those.

[Gravenimage]

Aw, shucks~ You guys are making me blush~

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Slex that gif is so cute!

[Slextrem]

You know, looking at your set, I wish they used that design for the show, but then again, it is a kid show. Still, they should try one anime spin-off, garner for teenagers. A man can dream.

I would like a Naruto spin-off like a different time zone, setting, etc. I guess that's either fans or anime studio to do those.

If the anime had introduced Red as the main character instead of Ash, and actually changed the protagonists to match with the characters you play as in the different games, the series would have been a lot more fun to follow. I don't love the design of the set that I have right now, (they made Red look like a pretty boy), but I think the Pokemon look bad ass. Especially Pikachu.

A Naruto spin-off would be fun, although they did just finish with Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth... For the longest time, I thought they were going to do a Konoha High School spin-off. That never happened, unfortunately. Now I'm rooting for a Naruto AU! series. Keeping my fingers crossed!

Slex that gif is so cute!

I know, right?

Edited by Slextrem, 01 May 2013 - 03:00 AM.

[Shadow1275]

Sasuke wouldn't beat Sakura if they ended up together. Sure, I could have easily seen that happening if SasuSaku was canon during Sasuke's mental breakdown, but not after he's redeemed. If he's good and in love with her, then he has no reason to hurt her.

Also, for SasuSaku to be canon, Sasuke would need to acknowledge Sakura. Because let's face it, if he thought she was annoying as all hell, like he did in Part One, he wouldn't want to have her beside him for the rest of his life. However, if he accepts her for who she is then she wouldn't find the need to submit to him, nor change herself to please him.

He may be the more dominant one in the relationship, but if they become canon, that doesn't mean he'd be an abusive lover. I picture a canon SasuSaku being very similar to the main couple in Itazura na Kiss.

Don't get me wrong, Naoki was a total ass to Kotoko throughout the majority of the series, but he really did love her and treated her gently by the end of it.

I don't support SasuSaku, but I think it's wrong to assume that the canon relationship would be as awful as it was described earlier.


I put the "?" by Karin because Sasuke has treated her differently than any of the other girls, (at least he hasn't called her "annoying" yet). It's possible that there's something there. It's also possible that it's nothing at all. I'm not trying to make it look like Sasuke is really confused about and spends a majority of his time contemplating how he feels about her, because that's definitely not the case, but there might be something there.

As for Lee, he definitely still likes Sakura. At least, that was still the case on Day 1 of the war:

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It's been about 48 hours in their world since this took place, so I can only assume that he still feels the same way.

It was more of a joke. He wouldn't beat her up sure, but Sakura wouldn't be able to act like herself. Whenever she and Naruto acted out he just dismissed them as being annoying. For me anyways and I'm not assuming that anybody who supports SS thinks differently, a relationship where one person doesn't like the real personality of the other person just doesn't appeal to me.[Not implying that anybody believes the opposite.] Though he might hurt her by losing control and lashing out, like with the apple scene.

Never read Itazura Na Kiss is it any good?

And Also, Charizard is the greatest pokemon of all time. Though I am still pissed that it's so hard to get a Black Charizard. Curse you game freak with your 1/8000 chance of getting shiny's

Edited by Shadow1275, 01 May 2013 - 03:10 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If the anime had introduced Red as the main character instead of Ash, and actually changed the protagonists to match with the characters you play as in the different games, the series would have been a lot more fun to follow. I don't love the design of the set that I have right now, (they made Red look like a pretty boy), but I think the Pokemon look bad ass. Especially Pikachu.

A Naruto spin-off would be fun, although they did just finish with Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth... For the longest time, I thought they were going to do a Konoha High School spin-off. That never happened, unfortunately. Now I'm rooting for a Naruto AU! series. Keeping my fingers crossed!

Well, i was referring to the Pokemon, but Red design is pretty good. I mean when got it down right. I remember one fanart with Red saving Ash in one bad ass look. Man, that was long time ago.

I know they did the Rock Lee one, but I was more into like what you said about High School one, though it don't need to be that. AU! would be great. That will be amusing to watch. Personally, I decided to work on dialog with StrikerTheNoble because I have so many ideas that I wish I can animate, draw, or any visual to present a story. Dialogues is the closest I can get. In fact, there are now 3 in my head that could be done in an episode length, but again, no good drawing. Put it this way, I'm like the one half of the group from Bakuman, if you ever read/watch it. Actually, I would love spin-off based on after the series ends. Not like DBGT though.

I saw your dialogue. Ouch. Lol

[Slextrem]

It was more of a joke. He wouldn't beat her up sure, but Sakura wouldn't be able to act like herself. Whenever she and Naruto acted out he just dismissed them as being annoying. For me anyways and I'm not assuming that anybody who supports SS thinks differently, a relationship where one person doesn't like the real personality of the other person just doesn't appeal to me.[Not implying that anybody believes the opposite.] Though he might hurt her by losing control and lashing out, like with the apple scene.

Never read Itazura Na Kiss is it any good?

And Also, Charizard is the greatest pokemon of all time. Though I am still pissed that it's so hard to get a Black Charizard. Curse you game freak with your 1/8000 chance of getting shiny's

I figured you were kidding around, but I just thought I'd throw that out there. I don't think Sasuke has any interest in Sakura whatsoever, but hypothetically, if he were to fall in love with her he would first have to accept her for who she is, no longer look down on her, nor think of her as a burden. If he sees her in good light, Sakura won't have to hide her personality from him at all. She could be as tsundere/goofy/perverse as she wants to be - he'll love her anyway, (in this hypothetical situation, that is.)

That being said, I don't think that's a realistic outcome for their relationship, (if we can even call it a relationship.) As Red said earlier, Sasuke really hasn't had any development with Sakura to suggest that he's warmed up to her enough to consider her a love interest. He thinks of her as an old comrade at best.

Bolded: If you're a pubescent girl that wants to date a hunky bad-boy because you believe can change him - sure.

My boyfriend approves of your opinion on the greatest Pokemon. Charizard FTW. If it makes you feel any better, I've never even seen a shiny Pokemon.

Edited by Slextrem, 01 May 2013 - 03:21 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

God, it's so good to know Charizard fans in here. My favorite of all time. Makes me want to relive childhood as well as playing them.

[FoolishYoungling]

Now I'm rooting for a Naruto AU! series. Keeping my fingers crossed!

3 reasons for that:

1. SakuMenm?
2. SasuHina?
3. Characters are very interesting.

[Shadow1275]

I figured you were kidding around, but I just thought I'd throw that out there. I don't think Sasuke has any interest in Sakura whatsoever, but hypothetically, if he were to fall in love with her he would first have to accept her for who she is, no longer look down on her, nor think of her as a burden. If he sees her in good light, Sakura won't have to hide her personality from him at all. She could be as tsundere/goofy/perverse as she wants to be - he'll love her anyway, (in this hypothetical situation, that is.)

That being said, I don't think that's a realistic outcome for their relationship, (if we can even call it a relationship.) As Red said earlier, Sasuke really hasn't had any development with Sakura to suggest that he's warmed up to her enough to consider her a love interest. He thinks of her as an old comrade at best.

Bolded: If you're a pubescent girl that wants to date a hunky bad-boy because you believe can change him - sure.

My boyfriend approves of your opinion on the greatest Pokemon. Charizard FTW. If it makes you feel any better, I've never even seen a shiny Pokemon.

How hypothetical is that scenario exactly?

Though, even if he were to fall in love with her, I'd still question how stable a person he is. Even after he mellowed out in part 1, there were still moments where he lost control and lashed out. Even though it wasn't directed specifically at Sakura, she usually got caught in the crossfire.

Lol As for the pubescent girl thing, that's a bit of a stretch. I think I'll stick to Slam Dunk.

Though, I won't judge on the new game yet, but I stopped buying them after HG/SS. The new pokemon don't look as good or as cool as this:

Edited by Shadow1275, 01 May 2013 - 03:33 AM.

[Inferno180]

Bolded You bet! The female character, Kotoko, starts off having a huge crush on the most popular boy in school, Naoki, (the male character.) He thinks she's annoying, but due to certain events, her family gets stuck living in the same house as his family. Over time, Naoki starts to warm up to Kotoko and eventually falls in love with her, (despite being a complete ass to her for most of the series.)

You hit the nail right on the head as to why I'm skeptical about both NaruHina and SasuSaku.

I don't agree with saying that SasuSaku fans, in particular, have this problem, but I do agree that it's an issue for the pairing itself. NaruHina faces the same problem, actually. If Naruto was a classic shoujo series, there's no doubt in my mind that NaruHina and SasuSaku would be canon. However, the fact of the matter is that this series does not have heavy focus on romance. Sakura's love for Sasuke and Hinata's love for Naruto are not a priority, and nothing so far has shown that either Naruto or Sasuke have changed their feelings about the girls.

Slextrem wouldn't it just be easier to say it like this: NH and SS had the materials for the stuff at the start but this changed as time went on. Obviously SS became halted and since the reunion event, that pairing would just be even more unbelievable even with Sasuke's redemption. NH was still around but the problem was, when there were times Kishi could have used Hinata, he did not. Literally her gap of having an important single part spans the end of Naruto beating Neji to the moment she gets harmed by pain. Thats chapters 105-437, in this entire span, Hinata has practically no purpose in the story, that's 332 chapters of no significant purpose, even then with both her moments in 437 and 615, they are short. We are in a 600 plus chapter series, this manga is near the end. No matter how NH fans or any hinata fans try to justify this, having an open gap of this many chapters without purpose is just not good for her character. they cannot just erase this gap and try to insert Hinata in there, at the same time SS fans tend to act like perhaps Sasuke somehow loved Sakura all along even during the 2 attempted kills despite.

Main problem with SS, its got no purpose, it literally has no purpose anymore. Sasuke is not the type for love, save for his brother. Sakura just needs to overcome her ideal of Sasuke, all her crush can really be at this point is for dramatic suspense. If SS gets revived, its literally forced and breaks both Sakura and Sasuke's characters beyond belief.

Main problem with NH, it lacks development. Hinata's lack of screentime is the biggest factor. Those 332 chapters of no importance are not just going to vanish. There was a time kishi could have used Hinata more, that time has long passed, there is just not enough space for it to gain the development NaruSaku has. There is a major difference between a steady development which has existed since over 10 years ago and one which has not even 2.

Simply, the easy answer is just NaruSaku, its the most reoccurring, things changed immensely in part 2 as more emotion and impacts came with both of them. It was on even ground with NH at the start of part 2 but then we get one event after another:
-Revealing the 9 tails
-Finding out what happens to a jinchurki when they die
-The 4 tails event
-Getting closer to Sasuke together -(yeah its the feeding event but this is what it was really about)
-failing to get Sasuke twice and suffer the same pain over it (well this was spread out in the Sasuke and Sai arc and then happened again in the itachi pursuit but its that strong desire they have to want to bring him back)
-The hug (obviously the best)
-Naruto's reveal that he thinks he is unworthy of Sakura because he cannot keep his promise
-Sai's reveal to Sakura as how much harm she does to him and how it took an emotional toll on her
-Sakura's attempts to free Naruto from the promise (plus standing in his defense and yelling at Sasuke despite still loving the guy who tried to kill her twice, shows who she really supports when its important )
-Sakura's faith in Naruto
-And yes the most recent, concern for Naruto doing harm to himself because he wants to protect everyone while also having support and faith in his ideals.

Don't even need to start the parallels. One event after another, and this is not even counting part 1. Theres a big difference between NS and NH and thats NS having a collosall amount of screentime, this is just not something to brush under the rug as so many haters want to treat it as.

One thing many anti NS fans say is "Sakura settling on Naruto is out of second place and pity" Well if Naruto does not feel worthy of Sakura, how could he feel worthy of anyone else? If he did get up and settle for Hinata, this is exactly what he would be doing out of pity.

NS just stands taller in any aspects from the manga, and the manga is all we need to count.
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Edited by Inferno180, 01 May 2013 - 12:18 PM.

[Slextrem]

How hypothetical is that scenario exactly?

Though, even if he were to fall in love with her, I'd still question how stable a person he is. Even after he mellowed out in part 1, there were still moments where he lost control and lashed out. Even though it wasn't directed specifically at Sakura, she usually got caught in the crossfire.

Lol As for the pubescent girl thing, that's a bit of a stretch. I think I'll stick to Slam Dunk.

Though, I won't judge on the new game yet, but I stopped buying them after HG/SS. The new pokemon don't look as good or as cool as this:

That's part of the reason why I don't support SasuSaku. I don't feel that Sakura's crush on Sasuke did her any good. All it did was bring both her and Naruto pain, and that doesn't fly with me.

I don't know what you're talking about...

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[FoolishYoungling]

God, it's so good to know Charizard fans in here. My favorite of all time. Makes me want to relive childhood as well as playing them.

Charizard is the greatest pokemon of all time.

My boyfriend approves of your opinion on the greatest Pokemon. Charizard FTW.

The best Pokemon is Infernape. However, Charizard is definitely my second favorite.

[Shadow1275]

That's part of the reason why I don't support SasuSaku. I don't feel that Sakura's crush on Sasuke did her any good. All it did was bring both her and Naruto pain, and that doesn't fly with me.

I don't know what you're talking about...

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Lol, I liked Blaziken, but the others not so much. And Bidoof.

[Slextrem]

I vote for Inferno to get his own thread to post all of his LAPs in. They are that good.

Lol, I liked Blaziken, but the others not so much. And Bidoof.

Look at me, now at Charizard, now at Blaziken, now back at Charizard, now back to me.

They replaced a fire breathing dragon with a fire/fighting chicken, and then a fire/fighting monkey, and then a fire/fighting pig...

Slextrem was not amused.

The starters for Gen 6 have potential, at least. I really hope they don't make Fennekin into a Fire/Fighting type too. I'll cry. We haven't had a cool fire fox since Vulpix/Ninetails.

Edited by Slextrem, 01 May 2013 - 03:57 AM.

[Shadow1275]

I vote for Inferno to get his own thread to post all of his LAPs in. They are that good.


Look at me, now at Charizard, now at Blaziken, now back at Charizard, now back to me.

They replaced a fire breathing dragon with a fire/fighting chicken, and then a fire/fighting monkey, and then a fire/fighting pig...

Slextrem was not amused.

Bolded:

To be fair, it's not easy to follow up the greatest pokemon of all time!!!

Besides Sky-Uppercut was almost as bad-ass of a move as flamethrower or slash.

Don't forget Cyndaquil who was a Hedgehog I think??????

As for Gen. 6, personally I didn't think they looked great[Don't forget, I'm just another biased charizard fan.] For once it looked like the grass type was the coolest.

Even the legendaries were lacking in the newer games. It get's to the point where after you have 10 legendaries in one game, they aren't so legendary anymore. Go figure

By the way, this wouldn't be a TFS parody reference would it?:Look at me, now at Charizard, now at Blaziken, now back at Charizard, now back to me.

Edited by Shadow1275, 01 May 2013 - 04:05 AM.

[Slextrem]

To be fair, it's not easy to follow up the greatest pokemon of all time!!!

Besides Sky-Uppercut was almost as bad-ass of a move as flamethrower or slash.

Don't forget Cyndaquil who was a Hedgehog I think??????

As for Gen. 6, personally I didn't think they looked great[Don't forget, I'm just another biased charizard fan.] For once it looked like the grass type was the coolest.

Even the legendaries were lacking in the newer games. It get's to the point where after you have 10 legendaries in one game, they aren't so legendary anymore. Go figure

By the way, this wouldn't be a TFS parody reference would it?

Cyndaquil, Quilava, and Typhlosion were all awesome though. I don't understand how they could do so well with Gen 2 but mess up so badly with most of Gen 3 and 4, and pretty much all of Gen 5. What is this, I don't even...

I agree completely on the Legendaries. At this point, I don't even get excited about them anymore. There are too many, and for some reason, they've started to look like Digimon...

Mind you, I'm just a bias Gen 1/Gen 2 fan, so what do I know.

One Pokemon they haven't screwed up is Eeevee. The evolutions they keep giving it are amazing.

Bolded: I was going for the Old Spice commercial.

ANYWAY - We definitely got way off-topic. LOL. Back to NaruSaku!

Edited by Slextrem, 01 May 2013 - 04:16 AM.

[soraandven]

i found this on devianart http://browse.devian...nnaro-367408596 thats the sakura haruno i know