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[FoolishYoungling]

Hey guys, look at this:



NS was already doing hand holdings before it was cool.

It wasn't in the manga.

[soraandven]

whats that episode called and when does it come out?

[FrenchMyToast]

NaruHina is the equivalent of LeeSaku.

Many fans like to deny this, but Hinata and Lee both play the same roles as far as the love triangles go. They're the side support characters for our hero and heroine. Both have unconditional love for their respective interest, and both want to do what they can to protect them. Sure, NaruHina has had more development than LeeSaku, but given that the series doesn't focus much on Sakura and even less on Lee, that's to be expected. But essentially, they are one of the same, just gender switched.

That argument could be made for SasuSaku too. Part One Sakura, at times, felt like a side character who's only purpose was to give support and unconditional love for Sasuke.

Huh, you're really onto something! It's actually pretty interesting how both LeeSaku and NaruHina had their biggest moments when one of the characters tried to protect the other. I'm thinking of Lee in the Forest of Death and Hinata confronting Pain. And both scenes ended up with them getting defeated rather easily.

And I'm pretty glad that LeeSaku didn't get more focus. I mean, we already have this NaruSaku/SasuSaku/NaruHina nonsense. Do you really want to add another pairing into that mess?

[StrikerTheNoble]

Its interesting how different the families would be.

NS: Happy family that laughs together and is the type to enjoy a vecation at the beach. (you know the type)
NH:Quiet almost victorian family, with everybody doing their own thing.
SS: Social services...Just kidding. Im pretty sure Sasuke would just refer to his life when something goes wrong and everybody would be miserable. Poor sexy time aswell (especially compared to NS)

[redragon88]

It wasn't in the manga.

But this is :

[Slextrem]

Huh, you're really onto something! It's actually pretty interesting how both LeeSaku and NaruHina had their biggest moments when one of the characters tried to protect the other. I'm thinking of Lee in the Forest of Death and Hinata confronting Pain. And both scenes ended up with them getting defeated rather easily.

And I'm pretty glad that LeeSaku didn't get more focus. I mean, we already have this NaruSaku/SasuSaku/NaruHina nonsense. Do you really want to add another pairing into that mess?

Mhm! For being so different, they sure have a lot of similarities~

Bolded: Definitely not! The Naruto pairing drama is complicated enough! Sometime it feels like a soap opera.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Mhm! For being so different, they sure have a lot of similarities~

Bolded: Definitely not! The Naruto pairing drama is complicated enough! Sometime it feels like a soap opera.

I wonder what this "X" are because i dont really think that Ino has gotten over Sasuke.

[redragon88]

Hey guys, for some reason the Fairy Tail chapter came early this week. It probably has something to do with the scheduling during Golden Week.

I think we might also get the Shonen Jumps chapters earlier as well. Instead of waiting until next Wednesday we would get them on late Saturday or early Sunday.

I wonder what this "X" are because i dont really think that Ino has gotten over Sasuke.

I think it means that Sasuke isn't interested in her.

Edited by redragon88, 01 May 2013 - 12:11 AM.

[FoolishYoungling]

I think we might also get the Shonen Jumps chapters earlier as well. Instead of waiting until next Wednesday we would get them on late Saturday or early Sunday.

Agreed. It wouldn't be the first time Kishi has done it. I recall him doing it multiple times in fact.

Edited by FoolishYoungling , 01 May 2013 - 12:16 AM.

[FrenchMyToast]

Agreed. It wouldn't be the first time Kishi has done it. I recall him doing it multiple times in fact.

Hmm that would be nice. Lately, it feels as though we're on break every other week.

[六道仙人]

Hey guys, look at this:



NS was already doing hand holdings before it was cool.

New topic, look:



It seems the episode involves Naruto and Sakura. Rikudo do your thing.

well, filler. Anyway he says that an edo tensei body of a boy named Yota appeared before Sakura's ploton. Yota is a popular guy who have a justu that can manuplate the weather. But everyone, without knowing why, have forgotten about that.
Seems that Naruto and Sakura know him.

[soraandven]

ah so another flashback episode

[Inferno180]

well, filler. Anyway he says that an edo tensei body of a boy named Yota appeared before Sakura's ploton. Yota is a popular guy who have a justu that can manuplate the weather. But everyone, without knowing why, have forgotten about that.
Seems that Naruto and Sakura know him.

So this month is a filler arc in the war with some Naruto and Sakura team action? From looking at the titles of saiyanisland.com, it looks like it will come for 3 episodes.

Kinda wondering how they could have so many powers in this series, including reality manipulation (Izanagi) and yet no one who can command the weather? Ah well about time.

Anyways from stuff I have read before, the whole point of NS though is just a matter of time they both gain acceptance for each other. For Naruto its finding that self validation for Sakura or her choosing him over Sasuke (but this time in ways Naruto would fully understand her, I mean she could simply explain that he is truely important to her, give him some speech between him and Sasuke and how she fully supports him, bleh, you know what to expect by now, just Naruto would have the confidence with Sakura at that point). For Sakura, its simply maturing and realizing she has done important stuff, kinda like how Yamato would actually be right all along from that speech, long as she supported and cared for him in anyway, she always managed to give him the strength. Heck if we know anything about Naruto and Sakura, they are perfect for each other I mean not only do they have a good friendship despite any events and not only does NaruSaku just have a lot of development, one reason it has not happened yet is simple they are both stubborn despite caring a lot for each other.

[Shadow1275]

Its interesting how different the families would be.

NS: Happy family that laughs together and is the type to enjoy a vecation at the beach. (you know the type)
NH:Quiet almost victorian family, with everybody doing their own thing.
SS: Social services...Just kidding. Im pretty sure Sasuke would just refer to his life when something goes wrong and everybody would be miserable. Poor sexy time aswell (especially compared to NS)

More like SS: One person has all the power well the other person completely submits to him hiding her real personality as he verbally abuses her and beats her.

[AzureWaters]

Mhm! For being so different, they sure have a lot of similarities~

Bolded: Definitely not! The Naruto pairing drama is complicated enough! Sometime it feels like a soap opera.

Not sure why Sasuke as a "?" towards Karin here, and disregarding my opinion that Lee isn't interested in Sakura anymore beyond Spring Time of Youth, I agree with the rest more or less.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hey guys, look at this:



NS was already doing hand holdings before it was cool.

New topic, look:



It seems the episode involves Naruto and Sakura. Rikudo do your thing.

Well, I read Rikudo's post. Well then, Pierrot can't just let them rest. But...I digress.

NaruHina is the equivalent of LeeSaku.

Many fans like to deny this, but Hinata and Lee both play the same roles as far as the love triangles go. They're the side support characters for our hero and heroine. Both have unconditional love for their respective interest, and both want to do what they can to protect them. Sure, NaruHina has had more development than LeeSaku, but given that the series doesn't focus much on Sakura and even less on Lee, that's to be expected. But essentially, they are one of the same, just gender switched.

That argument could be made for SasuSaku too. Part One Sakura, at times, felt like a side character who's only purpose was to give support and unconditional love for Sasuke.

Wow, that's something that I actually agree. It's not that it's going against other pairings, but you do make a valid point. What's strange is that Sakura and Sasuke interactions actually went to "full effect" only in Chuunin Exam and it left in a not so good note. It could have been if Sasuke just let her think he saved her, rather than Naruto. Looking from your thread, for some reason and correct if I'm wrong, but is their last interaction happened before round 2 of exam began? I don't count the one from the part when he was hurt by his curse seal against Gaara. It's funny, because really the only care factor she shown was the chance of him turning bad, which he did. Naruto starts realizing it when Itachi meets Naruto, so it's not like a unique experience on Sakura since Naruto was more focused on their rivalry in the early part 1. Then later, he starts to experience the potential of losing bond.

Now look at Naruto with Sakura. There's so much more. Of course, she cares for both in safety, I mean who doesn't, but to flesh out the care factor, this goes to Naruto. We went from him possibly losing his dream in first exam, losing to Kiba and Neji, the hospital fight scene (goes to both), his pain as a jinchuuriki, chance of death from extraction (irony), his anger on people who only sees his type as a "weapon" (Gaara's death), his hardship to repair his bond with Sasuke, K4 incident and all related one including Pain Arc, his pain going through for the sake of love, and now the chance of exhaustion for him to no longer protect himself. I know there are more, but those are life and death situations, which anyone cares. So...

Any questions?

But this is :

I still find the hug so significant, it's not even funny. I already made a LAP as well as Chatte's well written post. So yeah, we got that one down.

Hey guys, for some reason the Fairy Tail chapter came early this week. It probably has something to do with the scheduling during Golden Week.

I think we might also get the Shonen Jumps chapters earlier as well. Instead of waiting until next Wednesday we would get them on late Saturday or early Sunday.

Maybe. I should check more on this. FT seems like ending? Well not this arc, but sure feels like a lot of things are closing.

[Slextrem]

More like SS: One person has all the power well the other person completely submits to him hiding her real personality as he verbally abuses her and beats her.

Sasuke wouldn't beat Sakura if they ended up together. Sure, I could have easily seen that happening if SasuSaku was canon during Sasuke's mental breakdown, but not after he's redeemed. If he's good and in love with her, then he has no reason to hurt her.

Also, for SasuSaku to be canon, Sasuke would need to acknowledge Sakura. Because let's face it, if he thought she was annoying as all hell, like he did in Part One, he wouldn't want to have her beside him for the rest of his life. However, if he accepts her for who she is then she wouldn't find the need to submit to him, nor change herself to please him.

He may be the more dominant one in the relationship, but if they become canon, that doesn't mean he'd be an abusive lover. I picture a canon SasuSaku being very similar to the main couple in Itazura na Kiss.

Don't get me wrong, Naoki was a total ass to Kotoko throughout the majority of the series, but he really did love her and treated her gently by the end of it.

I don't support SasuSaku, but I think it's wrong to assume that the canon relationship would be as awful as it was described earlier.

Not sure why Sasuke as a "?" towards Karin here, and disregarding my opinion that Lee isn't interested in Sakura anymore beyond Spring Time of Youth, I agree with the rest more or less.

I put the "?" by Karin because Sasuke has treated her differently than any of the other girls, (at least he hasn't called her "annoying" yet). It's possible that there's something there. It's also possible that it's nothing at all. I'm not trying to make it look like Sasuke is really confused about and spends a majority of his time contemplating how he feels about her, because that's definitely not the case, but there might be something there.

As for Lee, he definitely still likes Sakura. At least, that was still the case on Day 1 of the war:

LeeSaku --Click here to view--

It's been about 48 hours in their world since this took place, so I can only assume that he still feels the same way.

Edited by Slextrem, 01 May 2013 - 01:49 AM.

[redragon88]

@Slextrem

Let me guess, that anime is based on a shoujo and the girl is the main character, right?

That's the problem SS fans sometimes have, they see the relationship between Sasuke and Sakura as if it was some dramatic shoujo series in which Sasuke's relationship with Sakura is just as important as his with Naruto.

They wish SS had that kind of shoujo development, but the hard truth is that it's anything but. If Sasuke developed romatic feelings for Sakura now it would come off as the most forced thing ever.

I'm gonna guess that at the very least in that shoujo the jerk guy had a steady development in which he slowly but surely warmed up to the girl, right? This is what some SS fans believe happened in Part 1, but the problem is that Sasuke warmed up to his relationship with all of Team 7, and had exclusive growth with Naruto, not Sakura. But for some reason they twist the events and pretend that Sasuke had developed romantic feelings for Sakura by the end of Part 1. What a joke.

Edited by redragon88, 01 May 2013 - 01:56 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Sasuke wouldn't beat Sakura if they ended up together. Sure, I could have easily seen that happening if SasuSaku was canon during Sasuke's mental breakdown, but not after he's redeemed. If he's good and in love with her, then he has no reason to hurt her.

Also, for SasuSaku to be canon, Sasuke would need to acknowledge Sakura. Because let's face it, if he thought she was annoying as all hell, like he did in Part One, he wouldn't want to have her beside him for the rest of his life. However, if he accepts her for who she is then she wouldn't find the need to submit to him, nor change herself to please him.

He may be the more dominant one in the relationship, but if they become canon, that doesn't mean he'd be an abusive lover. I picture a canon SasuSaku being very similar to the main couple in Itazura na Kiss.

Don't get me wrong, Naoki was a total ass to Kotoko throughout the majority of the series, but he really did love her and treated her gently by the end of it.

I don't support SasuSaku, but I think it's wrong to assume that the canon relationship would be as awful as it was described earlier.


I put the "?" by Karin because Sasuke has treated her differently than any of the other girls, (at least he hasn't called her "annoying" yet). It's possible that there's something there. It's also possible that it's nothing at all. I'm not trying to make it look like Sasuke is really confused about and spends a majority of his time contemplating how he feels about her, because that's definitely not the case, but there might be something there.

As for Lee, he definitely still likes Sakura. At least, that was still the case on Day 1 of the war:

LeeSaku --Click here to view--

It's been about 48 hours in their world since this took place, so I can only assume that he still feels the same way.

I for one don't think about the marriage will be hell, but rather the outcome and reward and let me tell you, it's very weak. I know you know, but I want to address it because to me, it's not about if the pairing will be awful when it happens, it's about the road to that destination and really, it would have been a huge slap to face. Plus if I remember that anime/manga well, it felt like it was given that they were going to go out in the end anyway. I thought it was predictable but then again, I know what you're trying to say. Still, there are more excuses for SS not to happen in more than just "he tried to kill you twice!" excuse. For me, I already listed above and I can go much deeper, but until someone questions me, I won't do it.

As for Karin, well it applies the same to above; however, the difference is that it's still in ambiguous state because while it seems similar to SS, it's actually not. I would recommend the manifesto to understand much more, so best to do so, if you really care for it. One thing to point out the difference is that as I said in the last post, SK has more care factors and more or less has an "Ok" to happen, rather than "do it and ruin the story". I feel like writing a LAP, but again, until someone asks, I won't do so.

Yeah, everyone still has their feelings, but closures will happen here.

@Slextrem

Let me guess, that anime is based on a shoujo and the girl is the main character, right?

That's the problem SS fans sometimes have, they see the relationship between Sasuke and Sakura as if it was some dramatic shoujo series in which Sasuke's relationship with Sakura is just as important as his with Naruto.

They wish SS had that kind of shoujo development, but the hard truth is that it's anything but. If Sasuke developed romatic feelings for Sakura now it would come off as the most forced thing ever.

I'm gonna guess that at the very least in that shoujo the jerk guy had a steady development in which he slowly but surely warmed up to the girl, right? This is what some SS fans believe happened in Part 1, but the problem is that Sasuke warmed up to his relationship with all of Team 7, and had exclusive growth with Naruto, not Sakura. But for some reason they twist the events and pretend that Sasuke had developed romantic feelings for Sakura by the end of Part 1. What a joke.

It is Shoujo but even so, it was predictable because well, the main character moved in with her love interest, so it's like "Yeah, it's going to happen." Plus, I remember saying that in order to get attention of a person who's a jerk in someway, you got to be clumsy and/or energetic. Sure works with many Shoujo. If the girl is smart, the guy needs too energetic or goofy, acting like a baby. Then again, that's just Ouran High School, but I digress. Sometimes, I feel that a lot of manga/anime is easy to read, unless you go too dark section. It's just the journey to it is what makes it different from others. That's just me.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 01 May 2013 - 02:08 AM.

[Slextrem]

@Slextrem

Let me guess, that anime is based on a shoujo and the girl is the main character, right?

That's the problem SS fans sometimes have, they see the relationship between Sasuke and Sakura as if it was some dramatic shoujo series in which Sasuke's relationship with Sakura is just as important as his with Naruto.

They wish SS had that kind of shoujo development, but the hard truth is that it's anything but. If Sasuke developed romatic feelings for Sakura now it would come off as the most forced thing ever.

I'm gonna guess that at the very least in that shoujo the jerk guy had a steady development in which he slowly but surely warmed up to the girl, right? This is what some SS fans believe happened in Part 1, but the problem is that Sasuke warmed up to his relationship with all of Team 7, and had exclusive growth with Naruto, not Sakura. But for some reason they twist the events and pretend that Sasuke had developed romantic feelings for Sakura by the end of Part 1. What a joke.

Bolded You bet! The female character, Kotoko, starts off having a huge crush on the most popular boy in school, Naoki, (the male character.) He thinks she's annoying, but due to certain events, her family gets stuck living in the same house as his family. Over time, Naoki starts to warm up to Kotoko and eventually falls in love with her, (despite being a complete ass to her for most of the series.)

You hit the nail right on the head as to why I'm skeptical about both NaruHina and SasuSaku.

I don't agree with saying that SasuSaku fans, in particular, have this problem, but I do agree that it's an issue for the pairing itself. NaruHina faces the same problem, actually. If Naruto was a classic shoujo series, there's no doubt in my mind that NaruHina and SasuSaku would be canon. However, the fact of the matter is that this series does not have heavy focus on romance. Sakura's love for Sasuke and Hinata's love for Naruto are not a priority, and nothing so far has shown that either Naruto or Sasuke have changed their feelings about the girls.

Edited by Slextrem, 01 May 2013 - 02:16 AM.