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[FireFox]

I'll figure things out myself XD

But but but I'll give you discount does that work   Fine fine i'll make it free its not like this is gonna be the first time someone calls me SENSEI you know  .   

[Moon_Girl]

 

Not surprise about been"Sakura's replacement" in many fan made doujins they change Hinata's personality with Sakura's, yep they turned her into a tsundere. Apparently tsundere Hinata is way better than tsundere Sakura. And that's where the twisted logic comes from.

 

If Sakura hits Naruto she's an abussive b*tch.

If Hinata hits Naruto she's cute and funny.

 

Makes perfect sense right?

 

 

(Super late)
Reminds me of this picture I found a long time ago.

 

[narusaku256]

But but but I'll give you discount does that work   Fine fine i'll make it free its not like this is gonna be the first time someone calls me SENSEI you know  .   

LOL XD. That was dramatic XD. Fine, if that makes you happy! Amen, SENSEI B)

[sunda2000]

Where can I read Sakura is a tsundere?  many people say sakura is not a tsundere 

[Gravenimage]

Sunda2000@ those people who told you Sakura isn't a tsundere they probably don't know the meaning of the word. Tell them to check on wiki.

[Hanabi]

Where can I read Sakura is a tsundere?  many people say sakura is not a tsundere 

i vaguely remember sakura was listed as a tsundere on tvtrope too.. you could try to search there.

[FireFox]

LOL XD. That was dramatic XD. Fine, if that makes you happy! Amen, SENSEI B)

Arigatou Gozaimasu   .  

[James S Cassidy]

Sunda2000@ those people who told you Sakura isn't a tsundere they probably don't know the meaning of the word. Tell them to check on wiki.

 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I always think is Sakura really a tsundere?
I mean i know that she was kinda tsun tsun with Naruto but she wasnt doing that to hide her feelings and she never went tsun tsun to hide her feelings from Naruto, i think she was quite dere with Naruto after she found out about his feelings for her.

I think it's because my notion of tsundere often represents a girl that goes Tsun Tsun when rejecting her own feelings, hiding something or pretending is not interested on the said guy and later goes Dere Dere.

I never see that with Sakura.
I mean she was aggressive but mostly because of Naruto's being stupid, however i've seen Tsunderes that act like that despite the main not being stupid, like Issei.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 13 May 2014 - 12:07 AM.

[FireFox]

As far as my knowledge of Tsunderes  the definition of Tsundere is usually a character who acts cold toward the guy/main character at the beginning but then after some time spent together she warms up to him  , also there are many types of Tsundere . I think this puts Sakura as one she falls in category B i think .

 

Here is a link http://tvtropes.org/...p/Main/Tsundere

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 13 May 2014 - 12:52 AM.

[Inferno180]

Sakura is a tsundere, she began with hostile feelings towards naruto and nothing but ideal love on Sasuke.

 

As she grew though in regards to naruto she became less hostile and more caring for him, thats generally how tsunderes work. Though they go between points of kindness and gentleness towards one they once hated, but its otherwise general comedy for them to lash out or whack the guy who caused some issue like being a brat or acting disrespectful or perverted. Sakuras cases go from say showing her softer side like in the 450 hug moment to otherwise showing her rough side in situations like naruto almost going into his sexy jutsu during the start of part 2, another one in 631 when naruto makes his girlfriend comment she whacks him telling him to focus on the job at hand.

 

Otherwise, I'm glad this whole stupid love decreased/increased business is over with, now that we got our answer, I'm fine, let others think it increased, theres just too much conflicts and more problems in trying to even explain that side. I still haven't seen an arguement for why it increased and why we should believe it has, if its claimed to increase there has to be reason beyond just hoping that future events prove this right and even then there were plenty of issues for SS needing to address before this issue even took place and even if her feelings had increased, it would not have changed anything, it wouldnt solve the whole hositility issues or mistrust that presently exists, it wouldnt patch up the years of missed development, this is just the tip of the iceberg, all the problems of SS we spoke on this site for years would literally have just multiplied in making it even harder to believe if the increased argument was true, it would just put more confusion on a pairing that already had so many problems plotwise it wouldnt be able to come without some weak written effort and this is almost a claim for what it would have been. Seriously do SS fans want their ship to be so poorly written that Sakura is part convenient fodder pairing? It made no sense then before this issue, it doesnt now, I'm just glad we got a lot of material and put up an argument for the decreased side, they still just go on and on with its increased and NS is dead, blah blah blah, etc. Well I'm done on this matter and moving on with the story, when the next NS event comes or when Sasuke pulls his next act of crap, that will be a shocker. Seriously I wonder how people will react when Sasuke only wants to be hokage so he can achieve his real motive (as the position of power would allow him too) and because we know Sakura supports narutos dream well, what would people honestly expect? Her to support sasuke in that situation? Hell no.

 

To me the situation is done and over, SS is dying as love and only going to be friendship, as before we knew that people wouldnt change their minds at some stuff given how the pairing stuff has gone in the years and how violently some reacted to 631, I mean our arguments of Kushinas foreshadow and 631 couldnt be taken seriously or even as a hint for NS yet this deal makes SS canon no questions asked or that sakura will never change despite the fact she continues to change between both of them and that its impossible for sakura to only see sasuke as a friend worthy of redeemption despite the crap he pulled, no he obviously loves her more after all the crap sasuke did, casue sasuke gets a free pass to everything, its like for him, he is like playing in GTA with the cops turned off, its no fun to cause chaos without the consequences. Sasuke has no consequences and screws everything else and all the kitten he pulls is excused. Really I am glad this is over, its like nothing changed now, save that the notion of sakuras feelings changing has been established and they continue to, she is maturing and growing out of that ideal love and soon it will just be friendship. Her maturity and part in this whole journey has to be something rather than simply loving sasuke in the end like learning real love, because the whole thing would be quite a bad perception of love if it somehow increased after this crap, literally this would be my proof that kishi doesnt troll the pairing stuff because then if it did increase and hit twlight romance stupidity, it would prove he doesnt know what he is doing because an author that does actively mess with pairings actually knows what they are doing.

 

But as said before, its decreased. I'm happy this is resolved, happy our fandom put out material today to support this and made enough of an effort unlike the SS fandom which just kept launching claims and no counter arguments still on why we should expect SS to come, seriously if they dont make an effort to support why we should expect SS or why/how kishi would hint SS, there has to be reason in the past to support this so that it doesn't conflict or otherwise fixes the problems not already present with SS but also imposed by the initial point of it increasing, but no arguments, no reason to believe it increased. But yes, I'm done, glad this is over, SS is no longer a love, just a declining one, she still loves him in the aspect of friendship and thats where it will stay. G'night everyone and I hope we get a shipper free chapter this week after this chaos. I really just want to see team 7 vs madara, one reason I loved the war arc, it was the longest without pairings. But yeah, SS is declining, its hard to believe for some but its now in motion. Let SS believe what they want, its like nothing changed before this whole fiasco. Its otherwise just like they put more theory holes in their own ship than what already existed because really, if they cannot patch up the missing development or give reason for it to somehow increased love, its just going to be harder to prove than it already is. Gnight everybody.

[NaruSakuishere]

I thought Sakura was more dere dere?

[tonga1]

yandere maybe?

[Qia]

I thought Sakura was more dere dere?

 

She started showing her dere dere side gradually and dere dere is her default mood now, so we've hardly seen her tsun tsun side, which is only triggered in special situations.  

[rocci]

yandere maybe?

Nope that's hin.... Madara, I think.

[Transformers03]

Was it this raw script? 

 

そしてサクラ あの時とサスケに対する思いは違うだろう And Sakura, your feelings/thoughts about Sasuke since that time seems to be different

同じ好きでもその思いは　別のものだEven though it's the same/ A similar love, your feelings are different

命を狙われた相手を今だに思うYou still care for/consider the one who aimed at your life

何があろうと好いていたサスケを切り捨てず サスケを闇から救うのは自分の役目だと思 っているNo matter what, you don't omit/discard/cast away the Sasuke you loved/were loving, you consider saving Sasuke from the darkness as your own duty.

 

If not, could you post it? Maybe it's the same person who said on NF he had the raw script from the chinese provider. 

 

 

You're lucky to have found japanese fans who concluded that Sakura was over Sasuke, because most of the reactions I have found are about Sakura ending up with Sasuke and Naruto with Hinata after this chapter 675, here are some examples; 

 

やはりサクラはサスケと、そしてヒナタはナルトと結ばれる事になるかと。ナルト&サクラが結婚するとする説には必ずあの人工呼吸の描写がクローズアップされますが、多分サクラはサスケでも同じ行動をとったと思います。ナルト&ヒナタについては言うまでもないですが、お互い好意がある事を直接伝えております。また、我々の世界では好きな男に命懸ける女は重杉と大半の男性が思ってますが、ナルトはそんな情けない男じゃありませんしね。

This post is saying that Sakura will end up with Sasuke and Hinata with Naruto. And that even if Sakura did CPR to Naruto, she would have probably do the same with Sasuke. And as always, the speech we often hear from NH fans, Naruto is not a jerk who would repulse a girl who risk her life for him.

 

同意。ナルトにヒナタ、サスケにサクラだとおもう。まぁ、サスケとサクラはサクラがサスケを闇から救い出したいと思ってることがバレで判明したから、サスケのそばでずっと付いていく形になり、サスケもそんなサクラを認めていくという感じになりそうだと思う。

He says he has the same opinion. Naruto with Hinata and Sasuke with Sakura. Because the fact that Sakura wants to save Sasuke from darkness has been proven by the spoilers, she will always stay by his side and Sasuke reconizes that kind of Sakura.

 

I'm waiting for a better translation from one of the other translators of this site. Because to me, it looks so nonsense. 

 

EDIT: Sindy, I saw the link you gave, and one of them has no reactions from Japaneses fans and the other has no pairing related reactions, I think you misunderstood what I asked, I know this kind of site, I was asking a link to japanese opinion about the chapter itself, not a summary. ^_^

These emphasize my reason for not seeing Kakashi's comment as anti-SS. I don't know anything about Japanese, so I am assuming your translation accurate, which means the words same and similar can both be the correct term. What seems to determine the correcting phrasing is the context in which it is told and how the person says it. Yet again, I don't know Japanese, however since same/similar could both be the correct translation then the phrasing could be taken both ways. She has a similar to Sasuke as had when they were younger, or it is the exact same love. One is somewhat ambiguous if Sakura still loves Sasuke in a romantic light, while the other clearly says that she does still love.

 

The second post kind of proves my point that even Japanese fans are translating it as Sakura still loving Sasuke. The fact that you seemed to come across more Japanese fans that seem to think Sakura would end up with Sasuke, seemed to support the fact that translation is meant to be taken as "the same". 

 

NOTE: I know that others posted other Japanese posts saying they believe Sakura and Naruto will get together, which more than proves my belief that this stupid shipping war is global. Even Japanese NS and SS fans select read, and forcing themselves to see through a perspective that was not the obvious intent of the author.

[Sojobo]

I always think is Sakura really a tsundere?
 

Difficult to say for me.

She has tsundere attitudes sometimes, but she's definitly not someone like Louise from Familiar Zero or even Asuka from Evangelion.

Sakura is a lot more genlte than those two tsundere. So to me, she's not a real one.

 

She's more like Kaori from City Hunter or Maam from Dragon Quest, if I have to pick one.

[咲耶姫]

 

 

These emphasize my reason for not seeing Kakashi's comment as anti-SS. I don't know anything about Japanese, so I am assuming your translation accurate, which means the words same and similar can both be the correct term. What seems to determine the correcting phrasing is the context in which it is told and how the person says it. Yet again, I don't know Japanese, however since same/similar could both be the correct translation then the phrasing could be taken both ways. She has a similar to Sasuke as had when they were younger, or it is the exact same love. One is somewhat ambiguous if Sakura still loves Sasuke in a romantic light, while the other clearly says that she does still love.

 

The second post kind of proves my point that even Japanese fans are translating it as Sakura still loving Sasuke. The fact that you seemed to come across more Japanese fans that seem to think Sakura would end up with Sasuke, seemed to support the fact that translation is meant to be taken as "the same". 

 

NOTE: I know that others posted other Japanese posts saying they believe Sakura and Naruto will get together, which more than proves my belief that this stupid shipping war is global. Even Japanese NS and SS fans select read, and forcing themselves to see through a perspective that was not the obvious intent of the author.

No, my translation was false, in that case 同じ好き is not translated as "it is a similar or same love", it means "it's still love" that's why every translators (MP, MS, and even VIZ translated like that. Ramenanmitsu explained it perfectly yesterday. So the correct translation is "even if you still like him, the feelings (behing this liking) are differents. It's the feelings of the liking itself that are different not the importance of thoses feelings. 

And about the comments I posted, well it's the 2 only comments related to pairings that I found before the release of the SJ in Japan on monday. But since the,; I saw comments about Kakashi's speech on japaneses NS thread, unfortunately, I'm not good enough to understand the comments. So I can't say if they are saying if it is good or bad for NS to them, the only thing I understood was 感無量which means "deep emotion, filled with emotion" and it was the person that was describing his/her feeling about Kakashi's speech. 

Edited by 咲耶姫, 13 May 2014 - 08:55 AM.

[Chatte]

Point is that really, it doesn't take a genius to see where the story is heading, really. 

[Hanabi]

this is a nice anime poster, sasuke looks kinda.. weird though.. like the new op

Edited by Hanabi, 13 May 2014 - 01:58 PM.