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[TouKen4Life3g]

I saw this info on narutopedia. Probably the databooks.

You mean the birth date? I wish they had the year. That would have helped a lot. So, yeah, I don't know.

[六道仙人]

You mean the birth date? I wish they had the year. That would have helped a lot. So, yeah, I don't know.

the question is simple. Sakura is born in the same year of those's Naruto and Sasuke because in databook we know that Sai is older of them (he has one year more like the team Gai and Gaara). So, if Sai is 17 years old Sakura is younger than him, isn't?

[Chatte]

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http://mirai-mangaka...es-and-narusaku

I read it. Funny enough, the person from DA gave me some quotes about chakra exactly like the one doing this chakras things.
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[redragon88]

the question is simple. Sakura is born in the same year of those's Naruto and Sasuke because in databook we know that Sai is older of them (he has one year more like the team Gai and Gaara). So, if Sai is 17 years old Sakura is younger than him, isn't?

I'm not sure if that can confirm Sakura was born in the exact same year. The only thing we know is the birth dates and how old they are. There's really no indication of being born in the same year or anything like that as far as I know. Sakura could've easily been born in the next year.

In Narutopedia the ages were presented as such:

Naruto: 15-16
Sakura: 15-16
Sasuke: 16

I'm going to assume that means Naruto and Sakura started Part 2 at 15 years old and eventually became 16, but Sasuke started already being 16 so that would make him the oldest, followed by Naruto and then Sakura.

[六道仙人]

The fact is that the second serie began about 2 years and half after Naruto's departure from the village with Jiraiya. I noticed there's a lot of misinformation about the training period proposed by Ero-sennin. In some versions Jiraiya said something like "From now on, you will come with me for about 3 years[...]" when actually he says "From now on, you will come with me for about 2 years and half[...]".
In the databook I (where events stop until the Chuunin selections): Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are 12 years old.
In the databook II (where events stop until the Kakashi Gaiden): Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are 13 years old.
In the databook III (where events stop until Tobi's revelation about Itachi's truth): Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are 16 years old. In fact, at the beginning of the second serie, Naruto is 15 ½ years old. When, during the Pain Saga, Minato asks him how old he is now, Naruto replied him that he is 16 years old.
In short, Team 7 (except Kakashi, Sai and Yamato of course) are peers, it's surely certain that Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura were born in the same years since the databooks state that their ages are the same. You don't need to have the birthdays if you can see that Neji, Tenten, Lee, Sai and Gaara are older than 1 year compared to Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura.
If Sakura was older than Naruto and Sasuke, then Kishimoto would have given her just the same age as that's Sai, isn't?

Edited by 六道仙人, 30 April 2013 - 12:45 PM.

[narusakurama]

I'm not sure if that can confirm Sakura was born in the exact same year. The only thing we know is the birth dates and how old they are. There's really no indication of being born in the same year or anything like that as far as I know. Sakura could've easily been born in the next year.

In Narutopedia the ages were presented as such:

Naruto: 15-16
Sakura: 15-16
Sasuke: 16

I'm going to assume that means Naruto and Sakura started Part 2 at 15 years old and eventually became 16, but Sasuke started already being 16 so that would make him the oldest, followed by Naruto and then Sakura.

Well , we do know from Kushina's flashback that Naruto was born not long after Sasuke . She meets Sasuke and his mother right before giving birth to Naruto ... so they are probably both the same age , with Sasuke being older by a few months (1 or 2) at the most .

[Gravenimage]

I'm not sure if that can confirm Sakura was born in the exact same year. The only thing we know is the birth dates and how old they are. There's really no indication of being born in the same year or anything like that as far as I know. Sakura could've easily been born in the next year.

In Narutopedia the ages were presented as such:

Naruto: 15-16
Sakura: 15-16
Sasuke: 16

I'm going to assume that means Naruto and Sakura started Part 2 at 15 years old and eventually became 16, but Sasuke started already being 16 so that would make him the oldest, followed by Naruto and then Sakura.

By now both Sakura and Sasuke should be 17 and Naruto now going to 17 soon.

Edited by Gravenimage, 30 April 2013 - 03:07 PM.

[redragon88]

The fact is that the second serie began about 2 years and half after Naruto's departure from the village with Jiraiya. I noticed there's a lot of misinformation about the training period proposed by Ero-sennin. In some versions Jiraiya said something like "From now on, you will come with me for about 3 years[...]" when actually he says "From now on, you will come with me for about 2 years and half[...]".
In the databook I (where events stop until the Chuunin selections): Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are 12 years old.
In the databook II (where events stop until the Kakashi Gaiden): Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are 13 years old.
In the databook III (where events stop until Tobi's revelation about Itachi's truth): Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are 16 years old. In fact, at the beginning of the second serie, Naruto is 15 ½ years old. When, during the Pain Saga, Minato asks him how old he is now, Naruto replied him that he is 16 years old.
In short, Team 7 (except Kakashi, Sai and Yamato of course) are peers, it's surely certain that Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura were born in the same years since the databooks state that their ages are the same. You don't need to have the birthdays if you can see that Neji, Tenten, Lee, Sai and Gaara are older than 1 year compared to Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura.
If Sakura was older than Naruto and Sasuke, then Kishimoto would have given her just the same age as that's Sai, isn't?

Oh, don't misunderstand, we're all aware that Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are peers. None of them is a year older or anything like that.

We are discussing whether Sakura was born first or later than Naruto and Sasuke. Saying they were all born in the same year at the end of the day is all assumption. I can easily say that Sakura was simply born in the following year and yet she would be a peer to Naruto and Sasuke since neither of them would be over a year older than her.

[Chatte]

The fact is that the second serie began about 2 years and half after Naruto's departure from the village with Jiraiya. I noticed there's a lot of misinformation about the training period proposed by Ero-sennin. In some versions Jiraiya said something like "From now on, you will come with me for about 3 years[...]" when actually he says "From now on, you will come with me for about 2 years and half[...]".
In the databook I (where events stop until the Chuunin selections): Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are 12 years old.
In the databook II (where events stop until the Kakashi Gaiden): Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are 13 years old.
In the databook III (where events stop until Tobi's revelation about Itachi's truth): Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are 16 years old. In fact, at the beginning of the second serie, Naruto is 15 ½ years old. When, during the Pain Saga, Minato asks him how old he is now, Naruto replied him that he is 16 years old.
In short, Team 7 (except Kakashi, Sai and Yamato of course) are peers, it's surely certain that Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura were born in the same years since the databooks state that their ages are the same. You don't need to have the birthdays if you can see that Neji, Tenten, Lee, Sai and Gaara are older than 1 year compared to Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura.
If Sakura was older than Naruto and Sasuke, then Kishimoto would have given her just the same age as that's Sai, isn't?

It was actually two and a half year training because if you guys remember, Sakura told Naruto sometimes in the manga, Gaara Rescue arc or something like that, they still have half year to try and save Sasuke from ORochimaru.

[六道仙人]

Oh, don't misunderstand, we're all aware that Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are peers. None of them is a year older or anything like that.

We are discussing whether Sakura was born first or later than Naruto and Sasuke. Saying they were all born in the same year at the end of the day is all assumption. I can easily say that Sakura was simply born in the following year and yet she would be a peer to Naruto and Sasuke since neither of them would be over a year older than her.

things don't work like that in Japan. Sakura is the oldest of T7 since she born in March on the same years. If she was born one year later, the databook would state that she's 15years old now, not 16.

and guys, honestly I don't understand why you're troubles about this, which it's pretty clear at my eyes thanks to the databook ... :/

It's because you don't like the idea that Sakura is the eldest of the group? At the end, 7 months of difference between her and Naruto is not so much ... see Shikamaru and Temari, he's 16 years old and she 19

It was actually two and a half year training because if you guys remember, Sakura told Naruto sometimes in the manga, Gaara Rescue arc or something like that, they still have half year to try and save Sasuke from ORochimaru.

exactly.

Edited by 六道仙人, 30 April 2013 - 01:06 PM.

[Branden]

Unless Sakura is years older or younger than the rest of her team then I don't see how it matters. Even if she was I don't think anyone would care because the manga doesn't ever seem to care about specific age, but rather age gruop.

For instance : Child, Teenager, adolescent, adult, elder

Those are the only real ages in anime, age groups.

[redragon88]

things don't work like that in Japan. Sakura is the oldest of T7 since she born in March on the same years. If she was born one year later, the databook would state that she's 15years old now, not 16.

and guys, honestly I don't understand why you're troubles about this, which it's pretty clear at my eyes thanks to the databook ... :/

It's because you don't like the idea that Sakura is the eldest of the group? At the end, 7 months of difference between her and Naruto is not so much ... see Shikamaru and Temari, he's 16 years old and she 19

Dude, I ship ShikaTema like nobody's business, so no, it's definitely not about ages.

Why would the databook state that Sakura would be 15 if she was born the following year? By the time the Databook came out Sakura could've already had her 16 birthday making her the same age as Naruto and Sasuke. It's not like the Databook says that is adjusted to any specific date in the calender.

As I said, saying that they were all born in the same year is just assumption. Unless there's a timeline or a note that indicate it happened as such, it becomes speculation.

Unless Sakura is years older or younger than the rest of her team then I don't see how it matters. Even if she was I don't think anyone would care because the manga doesn't ever seem to care about specific age, but rather age gruop.

For instance : Child, Teenager, adolescent, adult, elder

Those are the only real ages in anime, age groups.

I do agree. But it seems that sometimes people take it as fact that Sakura is definitely older, as if it's stated somewhere that she was indeed born first.

I'm just trying to point out that at the end of the day, whether she was born first or last is all just speculation for now. So nothing should be taken as a known fact.

Edited by redragon88, 30 April 2013 - 01:18 PM.

[六道仙人]

It's fine, each can have his own different opinion

For me, there's no doubt for the timeline, at least about T7's birthdays.. The problem is that on the rest, the timeline of Naruto's world si completely f**cked up :/

Edited by 六道仙人, 30 April 2013 - 01:32 PM.

[Inferno180]

Well no one on team 7 is 17 yet, (out of Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke) they are all the same age and remember, the story is only taking place within a few months on in each part.

In fact the war began only a few days or maybe 2 weeks after Naruto defeated pain. In fact all this time from the past 3 years, only 2 days have basically passed. What we see as nighttime right now, just the night before was the zetsu event, so yeah everything that happened in the war was only 2 days.

My point is, there are periods of time that go by we don't know how much time nessessarily passed in most events save the timeskip. I mean there was a 3 month slpit in time in the final chapter of part 1, tsunade even says how Sakura has been her apprentence for 3 months in only a few short panels.

The only periods of time we know are:
The timeskip which is 2-1/2 years
the period between the chunin exam preliminaries and finals -1 month
Naruto mastering the Rasengan - 1 week
Period between Naruto failing to stop Sasuke but also befor he leaves with Jiriaya - 3 months -Tsunade even mentions this, this is the period all the filler arcs for the part 1 pre-shippuden arcs take place.
4th war- 2 days.

There should be more but one thing in this seires is, we never get a mention of a date or constant period of time. we only know the lengths of time that pass, not the exact days.

[redragon88]

It's fine, each can have his own different opinion ;)

For me, there's no doubt for the timeline, at least about T7's birthdays.. The problem is that on the rest, the timeline of Naruto's world si completely f**cked up :/

It just got even worst after the Obito life flashback of 599 when most of the current jounin and older chunin got their ages revamped to all be in Kakashi's age group.

You're right, each can have their own opinion, but I was just curious if you had any indicator that Sakura was indeed older or you were just going with your gut feeling.

So at the end it's all just how you perceive it, right? I guess that goes for all of us.

Edited by redragon88, 30 April 2013 - 01:41 PM.

[六道仙人]

It just got even worst after the Obito life flashback of 599 when most of the current jounin and older chunin got their ages revamped to all be in Kakashi's age group.

You're right, each can have their own opinion, but I was just curious if you had any indicator that Sakura was indeed older or you were just going with your gut feeling.

So at the end it's all just how you perceive it, right? I guess that goes for all of us.

not all just I perceive... It's the fact that japanese are pretty clear about this stuff... If the databook states that Naruto and Sakura have the same years, then they born in the same year... If Sakura was youngster or elder, Kishimot should have states a different age for her...The fact is that all 3 databooks showt that these 3 have always the same age. That's their way of thinking...

I don't know if I explained it very well...

Edited by 六道仙人, 30 April 2013 - 02:28 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Wow, I stirred up the conversation when I was away. I don't know the answer, but I'll let it pass. It was fun though.

[redragon88]

not all just I perceive... It's the fact that japanese are pretty clear about this stuff... If the databook states that Naruto and Sakura have the same years, then they born in the same year... If Sakura was youngster or elder, Kishimot should have states a different age for her...The fact is that all 3 databooks showt that these 3 have always the same age. That's their way of thinking...

I don't know if I explained it very well...

I don't really see how that's evidence of them being born in the same year. There's no connection between having the same year and being born the same year.

For example, if Naruto becomes 16 in October and then Sakura become 16 in March, then all of the events between October and March have Naruto as 16 and Sakura as 15.

But after Sakura's birthday in March all of the events between the end of March until the following October have Naruto and Sakura as both 16.

You see, Naruto and Sakura can have a good amount of time being 16 together despite Sakura being born a year later.

You're saying that the japanese are being clear about it but I don't see how you're supporting it. You're going by your personal conclusion on how you think things should be, but not on how they actually are.

Now don't misunderstand, I'm not saying I'm right either, but I'm pointing out that what you say is very speculative.

[Codus N]

I have another comment on re-direct.

In terms of assigning blame or bad judgment during her confession, I bristle when all the blame is heaped on Sakura when Naruto owns at least half of their miscommunication problems.

Naruto had a chance to say something meaningful to Sakura during her confession -- to admit what's in his heart -- to admit what Kishimoto showed the audience through the first heartbreakingly hopeful panel of Naruto's face when Sakura said she loved him -- and yet he didn't. Instead he chose to focus on her feelings for Sasuke -- AGAIN. He chose to squelch his own feelings -- AGAIN. He needs a swift kick in his little self-deprecating butt.

The closest Naruto got to admitting anything was when Sakura said, "If you don't like me then just say so!" and he didn't deny it. Again, the message is (or should be) clear to the audience how he feels, but Naruto is allowing Sasuke to run the show in absentia.

I so want to HULKSMASH Sasuke. I'm so tired of him being the emo poison pill that ruins everything, lol. (Speaking of Kishimoto's intentional frustrations....)

Bolded: Absolutely.


Second bolded: Doubly Absolutely. Honestly, when Minato gets there, I hope that he kicks his idiot son's ass to hell and back for being an even bigger idiot than he was. I've always had the notion Minato is where Naruto gets his obliviousness about love. You combine that with Kushina's ditzy personality, and you get one very, very bad combination .

Naruto seriously needs some lessons from his old man about being a shinobi casanova

[Chatte]

They are both 16. If Sakura is born on March and Naruto in October, is clear she is the oldest one.
And the factor here is, again, Sasuke. He is born in July. And is the same year as the other two. If Sakura would've been younger, she would have had to be 11 when the Academy started. So it's Sakura, Sasuke, Naruto.