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[Inferno180]

Just remember, this is stuff made for middle schoolers, it is not overly complex and hard to figure out.

 

She was suprised for the most part, that Sasuke is working with them but as others have said too, Jugo is speculating that there is something else to Sasuke's motives.

 

If anything is bound to be a focus for the next chapter or in a few, its Jugo's comment. This whole ending to the current chapter is more or less just going to be disregarded and just move forward with the story. If anything is notable for future chapters like the Sakura=Kushina parallel of 631, its this, Jugo's comments and Sasuke's true motives. Sakura's power up was a short term speculation, we got it, now they are moving forward.

 

Team 7 is simply fighting back to back, all 3, its not just Sasuke and Sakura as some twisted it, Naruto isn't being ignored, its not payback at him for "ignoring Hinata's feelings by calling Sakura his girlfriend," its not Sakura reverting or fangirling, its not a trolling moment like 615 which some set their hopes insanely high for. This whole thing just gives new meaning no need to make a mountain out of a molehill.

 

Guess this means if we get a moment next chapter with Sakura just being amazed or acknowledging Naruto's current action, then we should make a big holy deal out of it right? It happened, it passed, its done. Next thing you know, this stuff won't ever come up again next chapter and we will talk about something new even if its minor. Not every interation means a pairing moment, this was in no way a pairing moment, as said before, what does it accomplish? The Sakura-Kushina and Sakura's power reveal still outdo this thing immensely, 615 we had reason to be concerned, not anymore with it. We have no reason to be concerned with this, so until next week, people should not be picking at these holes, there is a very simplistic thing here, its just a simple reaction and then she talks to naruto, as Sakura said to Naruto its like people both pro and anti NS should do, stop making a big deal and don't fret over the little things, its not a concern to us in anyway, its not going to harm us in anyway, and for the haters, its not going to carry on, its not going to make any difference no matter how they try to dissect it. Sakura was still focused on Naruto for 630 and 631, 632 she was speaking to herself and if anyone both her teammates equally, she spoke to Sasuke and had a small prank on Naruto and told him to not worry, thats what everyone should do. Otherwise every little NS interaction we see in the buildup thread would make NS canon by now. Sakura is fixiated on Naruto a lot, she is not going to revert or abandon Naruto no matter what others say. So there is no need to get a big deal over this again.

 

I'm assuring everyone here, if we get a NS moment next chapter too, just watch as its completely fine, this stuff is not going to come back and its really just silly to make a big deal out of it in the first place, one little Sasuke-kun and Naruto complaining, and the fans being unsure of her reaction being blush or dirt, who cares at this point? Does it really impact what we saw in 631? Sakura=Kushina is still more important than a silly little moment like this. Even if we jump back to kakashi and obito or elsehwere with orochimaru and taka, its not going to matter by wendsday. Now I'm going to enjoy my weekend, I've still see enough that this will not matter by then. This whole matter of worrying over a little Sasuke-kun, its just too funny and not worth making an argument out of for both the pro and anti NS. We are fine, we have the advantage. SS and NH have a lot to do in order to get around the Sakura-Kushina thing.

 

To me all this fuss dies right in the moment 632 ends, as Sakura said, don't worry about the small things, she was already addressing Naruto's I'm here too statement right there. Its done, its over, now let us kindly wait for 633,I sense a forehead compliment scene in a future chapter. Maybe a minor NS moment in the next chapter, I mean its highly likely.

[Akashi]

If all of Team Taka are going to be present in the Naruto vs Sasuke fight... Then most probably, Naruto, Sakura, Sai and Kakashi are going to fight them.

 

I don't think that the Hokages are going to be shown after this battle.

 

Sasuke can do anything. He's a surprise since the beginning of the series. Though, I don't think he'll control the ten tails and going against the alliance. He wants to be Hokage and turning against the alliance ?... Nop XD

Don't forget Yamato-taichou! He's a member of team 7 too!

[TouKen4Life3g]

Its funny isn't it? The k11 said its nostolgic that team 7 is back and everyone is back together again. But we have shikamaru saying he won't acknolwedge sasuke and jugo saying Sasuke is planning something.
 
We can almost assume this reunion won't last for very long and once the 10 tails is dealt with or subdued by Sasuke all hell's going to break loose.
 
I don't think team taka will fight against new team 7 because team 7 will stomp team taka (except sasuke), wouldn't be exciting to have Taka vs team 7. Does Karin have combat abilites?
 
One solution is to have orochimaru use the hokages to aid taka? seems then the scales will tip too far in Taka's favour.
 
Another would be to make Sasuke OP? with him taking the 10 tails? and taking on the alliance?
 
Really cloudy the future is....

Indeed it is.

The funny thing is Shikamaru is basically like us: take him as your backup but don't fully acknowledge him. Put it aside for now and see how it turns out. Will it be our fault that he did plan something to get us tricked? I guess so, but maybe fool me once, shame on you, plays it here. Who knows if he's really planning something but Juugo has a hutch.

Also, well you never know because Orochimaru is known to enhance his people quickly as possible or at least according to Sakura back in Immortal Arc. Also, Suigetsu seems like One Piece character of logia user (anyone who knows OP knows what I'm talking about). I mean the fact he lived from a blast head on is actually impressive for him. Sure he was knocked out but again lived. Not to mention, it does seem like physical attack won't work unless you have his elemental weakness. Juugo, well, you could argue it's because he fought Raikage, which is no laughing matter. Karin seems like a supporter than a fighter but she could tag team someone to make the battle more difficult. Also, you have Orochimaru, so it's a lot of ways you can work around it.

Honestly, I'll be interested to see two teams fight one another because it's like Naruto vs Sasuke in more ways than one and if done correctly, I could buy the hype. I mean it's too coincidence that the team happens to be 4 man squad. But who knows what's next in store. Maybe it will happen, maybe it won't. Btw, what is Kabuto doing now? Still stuck in that infinite loop? Looks like someone is in Bioshock.

[StriderC]

 

I agree..! I also written a similar thing on my previous post here! I had the same impressione as yours by seeing the raw. Sakura was talking definitely to Naruto in the last 2 panel of her.

I'm not entirely sure what you two are saying. Are you breaking the last page into 2 different pages even though it's a full page? 

[T XD]

Don't forget Yamato-taichou! He's a member of team 7 too!

Oh yeah. Forgot about Yamato. But, here's the thing. Karin, I can't see her battling unless she has strong combat abilities. Though, she could fight along one of her teammates which I think it's Juugo.

 

Let's see by putting Team 7 vs Team Taka:

 

Naruto vs Sasuke.

Sakura vs Juugo and Karin.

Sai vs Suigetsu.

Kakashi vs Orochimaru.

 

Of course, Orochimaru is pending since we don't know if he'll fight with Taka. Plus, it seems there's no place for Yamato unless he'll be with Kakashi. That's how I see the situation for both.

Edited by T XD, 01 June 2013 - 06:53 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Don't forget Yamato-taichou! He's a member of team 7 too!

As much as I hope he returns, I got a bad feeling that he will hit the bricks soon. The sad thing is that he was classified as a substitute, while Sai is classified as a new member. That's different. But I could be wrong that he will die. I hope not. Who's going to scare Naruto in rape face?!

[T XD]

As much as I hope he returns, I got a bad feeling that he will hit the bricks soon. The sad thing is that he was classified as a substitute, while Sai is classified as a new member. That's different. But I could be wrong that he will die. I hope not. Who's going to scare Naruto in rape face?!

He's a substitute, but he can come along with them if he'll join the battle. Though, I don't think he'll be present if Team 7 is going to fight against Team Taka. Only if Orochimaru is fighting which is possible that he can assist Kakashi, supposedly, to defeat the Sannin.

Edited by T XD, 01 June 2013 - 07:01 PM.

[Akashi]

As much as I hope he returns, I got a bad feeling that he will hit the bricks soon. The sad thing is that he was classified as a substitute, while Sai is classified as a new member. That's different. But I could be wrong that he will die. I hope not. Who's going to scare Naruto in rape face?!

We need Yamato to finish his sentence back at H&E bridge.

[HauntedCake]

We need Yamato to finish his sentence back at H&E bridge.

I'd die of feels if he did

[T XD]

We need Yamato to finish his sentence back at H&E bridge.

Didn't think about that, but I don't think there's a need to finish the sentence. It's pretty much known what's the sentence.

[Akashi]

Didn't think about that, but I don't think there's a need to finish the sentence. It's pretty much known what's the sentence.

No, we need to hear it directly from Yamato-taichou!

[TouKen4Life3g]

He's a substitute, but he can come along with them if he'll join the battle. Though, I don't think he'll be present if Team 7 is going to fight against Team Taka. Only if Orochimaru is fighting which is possible that he can assist Kakashi, supposedly, to defeat the Sannin.

It's just that Yamato is still in that place I believe and I can see Orochimaru put it end to him since he's a clone. That or something else that can kill him. I don't know yet but wonder what happens if he shows up, what would Hashirama would say.

We need Yamato to finish his sentence back at H&E bridge.

At the very least, we may get him saying something about Sakura, hoping she realizes what he meant about his words back at the bridge.

[Don-kun]

I am not sure if you are referring to me, Tauriel, but I am going to assume that you are and say that if what you say is about me, I am afraid you are wrong about something. See, I did take my shipping goggles off for this analysis because I am not trying to look at how bad it is for NS, I am looking at how bad this could be to the story itself.

Perhaps I should have made it more clear and for that I apologize, but I will like to explain now if you care to listen. Many fans are saying that we are going to get a SS moment that reintroduces Sakura's lingering feelings and bring back the love triangle. We both agree that many fans assumed it was in this chapter with that one panel. (Me and Shadow Wolf both agree that if Sakura was indeed blushing in that panel, why is it so hard to make out? Usually, if it was important, the panel would be bigger to show it's importance. Like Sakura's technique getting like half a page for emphasis. This is why we agree it is not blushing.)
 

My posts were not to say what is, but rather why what people think would happen would be a bad idea from a writer's stand point. So I am not trying to think of this through pairing goggles, but rather look at the cost to Sakura's character herself. As I said, she already gets enough flak for all the problems that don't exists, I don't think Kishi should actually give a good reason to hate her. Not after all this awesome stuff that just happen. As you said and so did I, let the fans create the drama.

If Kishi were to reintroduce or reinforce the love triangle, it would severely cause problems in the manga for Sakura's character alone. Especially if it is a moment where it has no resolution at the end of it. (My point of "the next time a pairing moment occurs is when it should be the final decision" is what I think should happen. Until then keep it as ambiguous as you possibly can and let the fan deal with it. That would be the smart way.) The problem is is that Kishi wanted Sakura to be this intelligent, strong, woman who made mistakes, but can also learn from them. This will counter act all that and really put Sakura in a bad light.

I think Kishi had made it clear that Sasuke is never gonna love Sakura. If after all this he still feels nothing for her, then it is a dead ringer that SS is not gonna happen. I'm sorry, but this is not an invalid argument as some have tried to argue. You can't be in a relationship with someone who doesn't want you. There is nothing you can do about it. Yeah Kishi can write the manga how he wants, but looking at what he has done and the continuity he has written he hasn't even made an attempt to make any hints. That speaks a lot. To push that into Sasuke now is to asspull your way into a drama and while Sasuke is an asspull when it comes to plot armor, he has not asspulled about his "love life."

Now, I really don't care about Sasuke, but I do care about Sakura. Again, just from a pure writing stand point and story telling, to have Sakura continue with "lingering feelings" at this very time is NOT a good strategy. We know can be a good writer, but do people really think Kishi would write something like that? It would be cheap and he would get alot more backlash about Sakura even more than he got from Sakura's confession. Common sense should dictate this and I believe he does know that if he makes one slip the fans will be on it.

We also have the problem with people being biased, but I believe if Kishi is willing he could use this to his advantage. Again, like I said he could do nothing and just make people believe what they want until when he finally reveals the truth. He has enough background in past chapters to show this and let the fans decide for themselves.

You said, Tauriel, that Sakura is not a pairing fodder character and this is true. However, I don't want her reduced to pairing fodder either which bringing those supposed "lingering feelings" will do to her. I don't want that to happen to Sakura. Not just when she started to show her true self and her true strength. So this is why I posted what I said and why it is a ridiculous story element now. The only thing that should be at this point is if Kishi puts Sakura in a situation where she has to choose between Sasuke and Naruto and she goes to Naruto. That is the only acceptable thing I can think of that will be acceptable and not reduce her character to just pairing fodder, but an actual human being trying to choose the right thing. Yeah it can be a "romantic fodder" moment, but I could also agrue she is choosing between her love and her best friend and teammate who is also her love's best friend and teammate.

Awes9, actually makes a good point. The whole Sasuke thing is terrible on all fronts, not just on pairing wars front. I can't quite put y finger one exactly the problem. maybe it is because of everything from the asspulls, to the plot armor, and even the Chaotic neutral personality.

Sadly there is a limit to how many post you can like in one day because this post is nothing but pure win.

 

Anyhow I notice you touch something I was pointing out about Sasuke having real genuine romantic feelings for Sakura, don't get my wrong but I believe Sasuke feeling that way about Sakura at this stage is ludicrous, Crazy all the insane meaning you can use to go along with that kind of thinking, What I meant is that I wanted to believe Sasuke will have some interest in Sakura just because, in a cynical way I see Sasuke saying that he wants to be Hokage and Sakura liked him in the past so now that she strong and independent I want her to be my woman giving life to the love triangle. Looking on the love triangle with Sakura still loving him and having expectation for a future with him will not allow me to see NS with good eyes, I even made a comment about this after charter 631.

 

I didn't mean that a portion of her character development is pairing related, rather it's to do with the boys.... ughh i'm getting lost in chain of thought.... Nvm i'm getting confused now LOL

Lol I just saying that there is much more things to enjoy about Sakura rather thinking who she will end with, take for example your sig.

Isn't she cute and very funny in that scene?

That was my point people focus too much in one area of her character while they influence others to think the same way and when I say people I mean the Naruto fandom in general.

Edited by Don-kun, 01 June 2013 - 07:13 PM.

[HauntedCake]

I was saying earlier about Sakura choosing between Naruto and Sasuke. She isn't choosing between one she loves and one thats her best friend, she must be choosing between two people she LOVES

[Zatheko]

At the very least, we may get him saying something about Sakura, hoping she realizes what he meant about his words back at the bridge.

That is actually very possible, considering he almost said something back on the H&E bridge.

[Akashi]

"If you love two people at the same time, choose the second one, because if you really loved the first one you wouldn't have fallen for the second."
— Johnny Depp

 

I just had to post this.

[TouKen4Life3g]

That is actually very possible, considering he almost said something back on the H&E bridge.

Exactly. Funny because that situation is still different than the one about being strong as them. Naruto's support is still different but I do like how she's strong now. So it's a win-win.

"If you love two people at the same time, choose the second one, because if you really loved the first one you wouldn't have fallen for the second."
Johnny Depp

 

I just had to post this.

You know, oddly enough, that quote seems to be true so far. I mean a recent one just had two main characters going together and that girl loves someone else first. The man knows his stuff. Lol.

[HauntedCake]

"If you love two people at the same time, choose the second one, because if you really loved the first one you wouldn't have fallen for the second."
— Johnny Depp

 

I just had to post this.

Nice hahhaa

[StriderC]

Oh yeah. Forgot about Yamato. But, here's the thing. Karin, I can't see her battling unless she has strong combat abilities. Though, she could fight along one of her teammates which I think it's Juugo.

 

Let's see by putting Team 7 vs Team Taka:

 

Naruto vs Sasuke.

Sakura vs Juugo and Karin.

Sai vs Suigetsu.

Kakashi vs Orochimaru.

 

Of course, Orochimaru is pending since we don't know if he'll fight with Taka. Plus, it seems there's no place for Yamato unless he'll be with Kakashi. That's how I see the situation for both.

I like how Sakura gets two opponents in your prediction.   I think she could definitely handle them both. 

[T XD]

"If you love two people at the same time, choose the second one, because if you really loved the first one you wouldn't have fallen for the second."
— Johnny Depp

 

I just had to post this.

Johnny Depp must be a character in Naruto along Sai, Yamato and others who support the pairing XD

 

Imagine him appearing from nowhere, in black and white coloring, moving towards them and saying his quote

 

I like how Sakura gets two opponents in your prediction.   I think she could definitely handle them both. 

Lol. Yeah, it would be an interesting battle. Besides, if Karin will be fighting Sakura alone... Sakura will wipe the floor with her for good

Edited by T XD, 01 June 2013 - 07:35 PM.