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[Shadow1275]

 

Oldest child in the main family = the only child considered part of the main family. This is why Neji's father, who is Hinata's father's slightly younger identical twin, is not considered a main family member.

 

The whole marriage thing is fanon.

 

 

 

I'm sure if this is Naruto we're talking about, he's not going to charge at them with guns blazing. He'll just give an inspiring speech

It's true that there's no proof in the manga. The whole "Hyuga can only intermarry" is fan-made unless Kishi says otherwise.

 

The only thing is why does every Hyuga have black hair, white skin, and white pupils? I mean, the eyes are probably the dominant trait but still there should be some sort of variation like Shino's clan. Same with the Uchiha, black hair and black eyes. There's nothing that really states that they married outside the clan.

[Gaara's hair]

The Uchiha actively search for men/women that have black hair and black eyes. Though it does seem like there are no outsiders in the clans. Was Itachi's girlfriend an Uchiha? I don't remeber did he have one? I do remeber people saying he did.

Edited by sakurx, 04 June 2013 - 06:42 AM.

[Branden]

The Uchiha actively search for men/women that have black hair and black eyes. Though it does seem like there are no outsiders in the clans. Was Itachi's girlfriend an Uchiha? I don't remeber did he have one? I do remeber people saying he did.

I remember it being mentioned by Tobi to Sasuke that Itachi had killed his parents, friends, and lover, but he couldn't kill his brother. So with that one line alone it's safe to assume he had a girlfriend whom was an Uchiha. Then again I don't remember if that was an anime or manga scene.

[Atheck]

It's true that there's no proof in the manga. The whole "Hyuga can only intermarry" is fan-made unless Kishi says otherwise.

 

The only thing is why does every Hyuga have black hair, white skin, and white pupils? I mean, the eyes are probably the dominant trait but still there should be some sort of variation like Shino's clan. Same with the Uchiha, black hair and black eyes. There's nothing that really states that they married outside the clan.

 

Well the Uchiha did appear to have more variety with the physical features of its clan members in earlier depictions (http://i.imgur.com/Dw5fh0p.jpg) than what has been presented recently (http://i.imgur.com/WwmYOSv.jpg). Granted those are Uchiha from two different eras and in chapter 592 what appears to be that same blonde man from the first panel can be seen as Sasuke was recapping the events and people in his life. It's possible that an outsider from a different clan could have married into the Uchiha at some point which would help in explaining how one of the clan members has physical traits that are generally not seen within those who have only Uchiha lineage. Or perhaps it's a recessive trait which had the potential of appearing in any clan member but did not until this one man was born.

 

If the Hyuga are capable of expressing such traits as well then it would be quite the leap to suggest that not even one clan member in its current household does not have any of these recessive traits. Especially when you consider how much bigger the Hyuga Clan appears to be in comparison to the Uchiha. Well Obito and Hinata were both enamoured with a non-clansman so we know that it's possible for Uchiha and Hyuga to have romantic interest in other people not related to them by blood. How their relatives would react to that is unknown (excluding Neji arguably who seemed to be indifferent).

[HauntedCake]

That's true if that's truly Kishi's intention because for me, it's starting to look that way and I'm not a shipper.

Lol I see Naruto being pissed at Sai while he's not there but feel like he may get friendzoned and the rest is history.

She would never friendzone Naruto !!!!!!

[TouKen4Life3g]

She would never friendzone Naruto !!!!!!

Of course not. She loves him.

[HauntedCake]

Off-topic:

 

Just got my Naruto Volume 61 and Season 3 box set minutes ago W000T!!!

 

 

 

 

[六道仙人]

ah yeah. the volume 61... it was an asspulling volume. Kabuto's story was really bad to me

 

I remember when it was out the jap volume 63, I was so fibrillated about the revelation of tobi's identidy and so I bought it since i was an huge fan of the theory "tobi=obito".

 

Of course I will do the same when NS will be canonized

[Chatte]

No offense but can I facepalm myself?

 

Where the shippers see romance, I just see a really good friendship. Naruto’s feelings for Sakura were just not developed. It went through no progression like Sakura’s did for Sasuke, or Hinata’s did for Naruto. Sakura went through a wonderful progression with Naruto, but as it is now, there is nothing to indicate that what she feels is romance. If anything, her confession to him says that a romance with him is the last thing she wants. Besides, Naruto understands, and doesn’t seem to much care either.

That’s pretty much it. 

 

No hate intended as I respect that person's opinion but I cannot understand how people can say Naruto's feelings WERE NOT developed?! I just...gah!

[HauntedCake]

No offense but can I facepalm myself?

 

Where the shippers see romance, I just see a really good friendship. Naruto’s feelings for Sakura were just not developed. It went through no progression like Sakura’s did for Sasuke, or Hinata’s did for Naruto. Sakura went through a wonderful progression with Naruto, but as it is now, there is nothing to indicate that what she feels is romance. If anything, her confession to him says that a romance with him is the last thing she wants. Besides, Naruto understands, and doesn’t seem to much care either.

That’s pretty much it. 

 

No hate intended as I respect that person's opinion but I cannot understand how people can say Naruto's feelings WERE NOT developed?! I just...gah!

As you said chatte, as i read this argument i'm wondering if i'm tripping..... I respect his opinion but this entire argument is flawed and incorrrect

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

No offense but can I facepalm myself?

 

Where the shippers see romance, I just see a really good friendship. Naruto’s feelings for Sakura were just not developed. It went through no progression like Sakura’s did for Sasuke, or Hinata’s did for Naruto. Sakura went through a wonderful progression with Naruto, but as it is now, there is nothing to indicate that what she feels is romance. If anything, her confession to him says that a romance with him is the last thing she wants. Besides, Naruto understands, and doesn’t seem to much care either.

That’s pretty much it. 

 

No hate intended as I respect that person's opinion but I cannot understand how people can say Naruto's feelings WERE NOT developed?! I just...gah!

 Naruto's feelings for Sakura are the same from chapter 3 but doesnt mean that they are not developed, it's like "it's true love" since chapter 3, i think the correct statement should be that his feelings for Sakura were not clearly stated, they are strong but what holds them is basically the parallels which explain a lot why he loves her.

 

Example, he loves Sakura but wasnt a coincidence when out of all people he got in love with someome who was similar to his mother despite not knowing who she was, even the reasons are the same(her insecurities,acknowledgment(his father))

The rest to claim that there's a progression on Sakura's to Sasuke is from someome who clearly doesnt read the manga.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 04 June 2013 - 03:05 PM.

[Chatte]

As you said chatte, as i read this argument i'm wondering if i'm tripping..... I respect his opinion but this entire argument is flawed and incorrrect

Really now, this is the worst argument I have ever heard. And I am surprised because it comes from a really intelligent person you know? Not just some crazy shipper. But I think that denial and I really mean it, it's strong.She could argue that indeed Sakura didn't developed feelings for Naruto, but to say that Naruto didn't have his feelings developed in this manga it's just... GAAAH!

 

@Dark I disagree with you.

At first, Naruto liked Sakura and acted the same fanboy way around her as well, however, since chapter 3 it slowly turned into love. From just a crush to a selfless giving up of his hapiness so that Sakura can be happy, to admiration to hope and love, finally.

One cannot say that Naruto's feelings haven't been developed.

Edited by Chatte, 04 June 2013 - 03:04 PM.

[ramenanmitsu]

I found a Japanese blog dedicated to NaruSaku. It's called "NaruSaku Love, Foreshadowing, Study Observations". And wow, it's like they are scholars with their thorough research throughout the story. It has many pictures so even if you don't understand Japanese, it's worth going like a NaruSaku moment library or something. 

 

http://narusaku0403.blog.fc2.com/

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 04 June 2013 - 03:09 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Really now, this is the worst argument I have ever heard. And I am surprised because it comes from a really intelligent person you know? Not just some crazy shipper. But I think that denial and I really mean it, it's strong.She could argue that indeed Sakura didn't developed feelings for Naruto, but to say that Naruto didn't have his feelings developed in this manga it's just... GAAAH!

 

@Dark I disagree with you.

At first, Naruto liked Sakura and acted the same fanboy way around her as well, however, since chapter 3 it slowly turned into love. From just a crush to a selfless giving up of his hapiness so that Sakura can be happy, to admiration to hope and love, finally.

One cannot say that Naruto's feelings haven't been developed.

I updated my quote, but that you said is relationship development it has nothing to do with his feelings for her, what he feels for her it's the same thing that he felt since the begining of Naruto, romantic love and the desire to be romantically involved with her, it didnt change, he didnt had any thoughts about "Hey i think it's impossible so it's best for us to be only friends" or whatever.
He wanst selfish towards her either, Naruto is selfless but it's highly debatable, how he can have a sefless love if he hides his true emotions, he cant hide from her how he will be heartbroken which even Sai noticed that.

 

Also it didnt "slowly" turned into love, he was already in love but didnt understand why he loved her and then he understood that and guess what the very same reason why Minato loves Kushina.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 04 June 2013 - 03:11 PM.

[六道仙人]

Lol I'm not surprised. Everyone of them always says that there's no romance between Naruto and Sakura or Naruto doesn't love her anymore since he hates people who lies to themselves... So what's the matter? NH is well developted and the same for SS, NS is poor and it's only a bromance

[HauntedCake]

Really now, this is the worst argument I have ever heard. And I am surprised because it comes from a really intelligent person you know? Not just some crazy shipper. But I think that denial and I really mean it, it's strong.She could argue that indeed Sakura didn't developed feelings for Naruto, but to say that Naruto didn't have his feelings developed in this manga it's just... GAAAH!

 

@Dark I disagree with you.

At first, Naruto liked Sakura and acted the same fanboy way around her as well, however, since chapter 3 it slowly turned into love. From just a crush to a selfless giving up of his hapiness so that Sakura can be happy, to admiration to hope and love, finally.

One cannot say that Naruto's feelings haven't been developed.

Funny thing is the argument stating Sakura hasn't developed any feelings for Naruto is the craziest and most illogical. It's just someone in denial and downplaying the manga

[StriderC]

LOL NS lacks development compared to the other two obviously. And it's a fact that Naruto doesn't love Sakura anymore. 

 

One line kills NS- I hate people who lie to themselves. 

 

We're doomed to oblivion! We'd better jump ship while we still can!! 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I found a Japanese blog dedicated to NaruSaku. It's called "NaruSaku Love, Foreshadowing, Study Observations". And wow, it's like they are scholars with their thorough research throughout the story. It has many pictures so even if you don't understand Japanese, it's worth going like a NaruSaku moment library or something. 

 

http://narusaku0403.blog.fc2.com/

Can you explain what is this (ﾟ∀ﾟ)?

[六道仙人]

Can you explain what is this (ﾟ∀ﾟ)?

it's an emoticon, means "kita", it's the past tense from the verb "kuru/to come"...It expresses excitement...

 

Anyway, thanks ramenanmitsu...nice to find some NS fanblog!

[ramenanmitsu]

Can you explain what is this (ﾟ∀ﾟ)?

It's like this.

 

"FINALLY! THIS MOMENT HAS COME! YEEEESSSSSSS!" 

 

 

You know this blog has brought up one parallel. 

Naruto being similar to Minato has been proven by Jiraiya in the Tsunade arc. 

Jiraiya said to Naruto, that Naruto is extremely similar to the Fourth Hokage.

 

I completely forgot about this scene until I read this blog! Another parallel confirmed!

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 04 June 2013 - 03:43 PM.