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#18281 Decius23

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 07:54 AM

How, exactly? All that did was show that no matter what Naruto did for Sakura or how close they were, she would never fall for him.

 

1.) After the Land of Iron affair you'd need a confrontation between Naruto and Sakura. Naruto in his anger does let his love for her slip while Sakura admits that she loves both Naruto and Sasuke and doesn't know what to think anymore (which is apparently true).

 

2.) The love letter scene with that kumo-nin. All you'd have to change is adding Naruto to the brooding-sakura part (where she thinks of Sasuke, right before Zetsu-Neji makes his entrance).

 

3.) When Sasuke declares his grand plan for "Revolution" and Sakura spills her guts. Change it into Sakura's view of Sasuke completely shattered, that he truly isn't the man she loved anymore or even never was.

 

4.) After the Naruto-Sasuke fight. Sakura forgives Sasuke in the end but it will be a long time until she can trust Sasuke to even guard her back on missions. NS happens.

 

There. A passable NaruSaku ending. I think that was too easy or to obvious for Kishi to make it so (probably because you'd need something like 1.) and Kishi is too awkward for romance).


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Posted 06 December 2014 - 07:55 AM

what trully kill it is there are no continuation. it's part team seven drama. like sasuke madness, naruto wimpiness, and sakura lieness lol.

that's why i believe it will solve in the war arc. oh boy how wrong i am.

 

that's i said, if kishi intend to kill ns, do it in sakura confession. 

by making naruto neutral(doesn't romantically love anyone) will not damage the romantic subplot. and he doesn't need to make retcon the movie.

Cause he can't kittening write. What do you expect...

 

Seriously, the less damage is having him move on because he lost. God! It's simple!



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 07:57 AM

Cause he can't kittening write. What do you expect...

 

Seriously, the less damage is having him move on because he lost. God! It's simple!

NO WAY. IT WOULD MAKE HINATA BECOME SILVER MEDAL. DONT YOU FEEL PITY ON HER.

 

CAPSLOCK FTW.

 

and yes he's terrible writer. he can only write drama. the bad one lol.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 07:57 AM

1.) After the Land of Iron affair you'd need a confrontation between Naruto and Sakura. Naruto in his anger does let his love for her slip while Sakura admits that she loves both Naruto and Sasuke and doesn't know what to think anymore (which is apparently true).

 

2.) The love letter scene with that kumo-nin. All you'd have to change is adding Naruto to the brooding-sakura part (where she thinks of Sasuke, right before Zetsu-Neji makes his entrance).

 

3.) When Sasuke declares his grand plan for "Revolution" and Sakura spills her guts. Change it into Sakura's view of Sasuke completely shattered, that he truly isn't the man she loved anymore or even never was.

 

4.) After the Naruto-Sasuke fight. Sakura forgives Sasuke in the end but it will be a long time until she can trust Sasuke to even guard her back on missions. NS happens.

 

There. A passable NaruSaku ending. I think that was too easy or to obvious for Kishi to make it so (probably because you'd need something like 1.) and Kishi is too awkward for romance).

That's just ignoring the fake confession happened, not using it as a catalyst. The right thing to do is have none of that drama, just wait for Naruto himself to confess once Sasuke was back. Then she would be able to choose properly.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:00 AM

Hear the angry cry of fans, mainly Kakashi and Sasuke fans who were led to buy the pre-sales tickets because they have the biggest fan base. If you want to post it on tumblr feel free but don't use my name.

10 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 00:51:52.61 ID:XZI7yGuY.net[1/2]
特典ポスター詐欺なんて今までもそうだったろとは言うが、今までもそうだったなーうん納得したとはならん
特典もポスターもナルヒナにすりゃいいのに売れないからとか、売れないもんが最後の映画のメインになってるってことになるんだが

People say that the privileges fraud always existed but you don't go "Yeah, I accept it!" by that
They should have made all the privileges into NH but they say they can't because the tickets won't sell. But that means that they are making something that doesn't sell into the main of the movie.

9 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 00:50:30.39 ID:nscdxXiE.net[1/2]
前売り詐欺酷過ぎるな公開されたらもっと大荒れする
ヒナタじゃ売れないとは分かってるから他キャラで詐欺
そのカプ厨の妄想二次創作レベルの気持ち悪い映画の否定意見に噛みつきまくる
ヒナタ萌え豚アニスタとナルヒナ厨のキチガイさが凄い
何度もレスし変えたり考え方も稚拙だし脳みそ厨から成長してないのか

The pre-sales ticket fraud is too horrible. If this movie airs it's going to become a bigger kitten
They know that Hinata doesn't sell so they use other characters and do fraud
And those pairing tards are keep on attacking on comments against this fanfic movie
The retardedness of Hinata moe anime studio and NH tards are amazing
They respond many times, change their IDs, and their thinking is so crappy.

13 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 01:01:32.21 ID:RahE5U1w.net[1/5]
はあ、サスケの出番あれだけはないわ
何より結婚式ハブられてるし何かなあ
ナルトにとってサスケってそんなもん
サスケもナルトの結婚が嬉しくないのかよー
原作であれだけサスケサスケ言ってたのにさ
はぁ、後は見てからにする

What it's unacceptable that those are the only Sasuke scenes
Most of all they excluded him from the wedding
Was that all Sasuke was to Naruto? Even though he kept on saying Sasuke Sasuke in canon
Sigh, I'll continue after I watch it

14 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 01:01:49.77 ID:uAxWieYX.net[3/11]
別に恋愛映画だろうがどうでもよかった
だがメインのナルトヒナタ以外脇役ってどういう了見
あんだけ前売りや予告でカカシサスケ見せといてそれかい
同期を始めとした他キャラは噛ませっぽいし
誰得だよこの映画

I don't care whether this is a romance movie or whatever
But why is every other character that isn't Naruto or Hinata gone to the side?
They kept on showing Sasuke and Kakashi in the pre-sales and this is what happens
Also the other rookies seem to be tools
Who is going to gain from watching this movie

16 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 01:10:07.01 ID:QqW1CtpI.net[1/2]
ナルヒナキチガイから絡まれず解放されると思うと気が楽だわ
少しの批判にも噛み付いて、20レス以上うだうだ気持ち悪すぎ
原作の補完どころか矛盾を及ぼす映画で叩かれない方がおかしい

I'm so relieved that I won't get harassed by the retarded NH in this thread
They attack on any single comment that talks bad about the movie with more than 20 replies and it's sick
It doesn't make sense for the movie which not only doesn't compliment the canon story but disregards it not to be bashed

17 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 01:12:17.50 ID:RahE5U1w.net[2/5]
予告詐欺は慣れちゃたよ
でも699話でああやって戻ってきたサスケとナルトの関係をチラッとも見せてくれないなんて
新しい関係が見れるって何だったの

I'm already used to this trailer fraud
But not showing anything between Naruto and Sasuke who returned in chapter 699
What was that about seeing a new relationship?

18 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 01:13:32.36 ID:MB5kSHbS.net[1/3]
>>17
興味がない赤の他人ってことかな新しい関係

Probably by new relationship they mean strangers that don't care about each other

20 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 01:15:36.62 ID:Bs7mKi9X.net[1/3]
ヒナタのマフラーよりサスケやカカシの戦闘シーンが見たいんだが
オールスターで良かったじゃん
これがナルト最後の映画とか勘弁してくれ
好きなだけに泣けてくる
恋愛映画じゃなくて七班や同期が活躍してる忍者映画見たいんだよ
ナルトはイルカ先生いただろ
無茶苦茶だわ

I want to see Sasuke and Kakashi's fight scenes more than Hinata's scarf
They could have made it Allstar
Please tell me that this isn't the last Naruto movie
I liked this story that it makes me want to cry
I want to see a ninja movie where team seven and the rookies are active instead of a romance movie
Naruto had Iruka
Everything is a mess

41 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 07:48:43.46 ID:tq2FKdLE.net
特典をサスケカカシにしたなら
こいつらを使えば売れる出番があれば喜ぶ奴が大勢いるってことは分かってたわけだよな
それをわかった上で出番2分と文字通りのカカシにするって悪意すら感じるな

ポスターやメインビジュアルでもヒナタと同じ大きさでサクラや同期が書かれてて
最後だからと見に来る層は同じとはいかなくてもそれなりの活躍を期待したろうに
ヒナタにだけ原作にもなかった設定盛ってマフラー編みで無駄尺取って
他のキャラは添え物かカップル応援するだけの役で原作の謎は放置って
これ最後と銘打った映画でやることじゃないだろ

If they made the privileges Kakashi and Sasuke
They knew that if they used these two characters the movie will sell and many people will be happy
They knew this and they made Sasuke appear only for two seconds and that Kakashi scene.
I feel like they had ill intentions.

Even in the poster and the main visual the rookies were drawn in the same size as Hinata
The people who are going to watch the movie because it's the last would have expected more actions
They made only Hinata have some story that was not in canon and made her knit a scarf which was a waste of time
The other characters are just there like ornaments and they ignored the unresolved plot points of canon manga
This isn't something you do in a movie you call the last

82 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 13:08:44.28 ID:w+e5iD3z.net
トリコといい水樹はここまでくると作品潰しのプロだな

Remembering Toriko, Mizuki is a professional in destroying stories

92 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 14:03:58.01 ID:U3rzJwHh.net
サスケファンとカカシファンがかわいそうです、さすがに
前売りやグッズでお金使わせておいて登場時間が90秒とか棒立ちとか
ブックカバーの台詞もムリヤリ売る為に持ってきたと考えると笑える
ヒナタがメインでよくしゃべってるんだからヒナタグッズで作れば良かったんや

I feel so bad for Sasuke and Kakashi fans
They made the use money with the pre-sales and the goods but in the movie they only appear for 90 seconds
The comment on the book cover was forcefully brought in to sell it
Hinata is the main so they should have made Hinata goods

105 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 15:49:19.72 ID:InkD70aJ.net
前売り詐欺だったな
前売りの時点はヒナタ押しの恋愛映画ってとこを隠してた辺り、
卑怯なアニスタ

しかし最後の最後でアンチ増やしまくった作品も珍しいな
もはや忍者漫画でもバトル漫画でもなくヒナタ豚専用の恋愛脳映画と化してしまった
堕ちたもんだなアニメスタッフ

What a pre-sales fraud lol
At the time of the pre-sale they hid that this was a romance movie forcing Hinata
Despicable anime studio lol

But a story that increases so many antis at the very last is very rare
This not a ninja manga or a battle manga but a romance obsessed movie for pig Hinata
How the anime staff have fallen

107 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 15:53:38.37 ID:6tkpoiHn.net
ここまで悪質なセールスしてたら、たとえ試写の反応で多少は何かしらの
修正があったとしても、不評のままだろうな
前売り買い取り拒否された人達はほんとお気の毒だけど、一応鑑賞した後に
Yahooレビューにでも☆一個にして恨み言のひとつでも愚痴って許されるレベル

With such an ill intended way of sales, even though they fixed some parts due to the bad response from the people watching the screening, it would have ended badly
I feel bad for people who cannot get a refund
But they are allowed to watch the movie and give this movie one star and complain

117 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 16:36:28.89 ID:BbBphfYG.net
この手の前売り詐欺って当たり前なの
ポスターに出て前売りグッズに出て
映画関連グッズには大体いるキャラの
登場時間が一分程度でセリフは一言だけとかさ
他の作品では当たり前なの

Are these kind of pre-sale fraud common?
All the characters that had the goods and the posters and the movie related products are only there for a minute
Is this normal in other stories?

131 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2014/11/27(木) 17:47:11.97 ID:CYDMDxDa.net
ID:w0pQVZBSはただの荒らしっぽいけどナルヒナ信者はマジで原作読んでない
当然原作との矛盾や性格の違いも気がつかないから専用スレでみんな喜んでるよ
原作も読まないでキャラの結婚だけ喜んで何がしたいのかよく分からんけど

NaruHina fans are really not reading the canon manga
Of course they won't realize the difference of personalities and settings with the canon version so they are happy in their own thread
I don't know what they want if they are only happy with their characters wedding and not reading canon

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 06 December 2014 - 08:05 AM.

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:00 AM

I still want to know why he never confessed to her? They never gave an explanation on that did they?


 


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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:01 AM

Huh, without the fake confession there would be no confrontation ("Hey Sakura, what the heck was that back in the land of iron?")...and yes, your option would work too but the earlier you start with true romantic development, the less you need things like...a MOVIE *shudder*.


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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:01 AM

Well to be honest I think that's where he decided to kill NS. I just don't know why he wanted to keep misleading us until the end.

If that was the case he should have clarified in the manga, that the confession and subsequent speech about Naruto being closer to and not wanting Naruto to save Sasuke was mutually exclusive. But I forget..... He was too embarrassed to write romance  :down: .

 

Having Naruto say "I hate people who lie to themselves" after they professed their feelings for you is just asking for a misinterpretation. Which, lo and behold, is exactly what happened. When you drop a bombshell of "I Love You", it's a friggin' bombshell and naturally everything the reader interprets is through that lens. Ergo Sakura Confession -> I hate people who lie to themselves -> People thinking Sakura is lying. I feel like any halfway decent writer can see possible future pitfalls when writing fiction and adjust accordingly. It's like taking a step back and overseeing the world, somewhat of an out of body experience, where you see things as a neutral entity that is not biased towards anything. I try telling people this and am astounded by how many individuals lack this ability as it is critical in evaluating one's self. This also kind of ties into the fact that Kishimoto has been drawing this manga for 15 years straight and has never truly taken a hiatus, to "self scout" and see how the story is developing and if it matches the ending he planned out in the beginning. 

 

With all this being said I severely overestimated Kishi as a writer.


Edited by DJSparty, 06 December 2014 - 08:04 AM.


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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:02 AM

Wow, it's pretty much exactly like here over there. Cultural differences my ass.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:04 AM

Kishimoto when fans question his sanity
 
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Dat evil troll laugh...makes me feel like laughing looking at it and punching him at the same time...

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:04 AM

I still want to know why he never confessed to her? They never gave an explanation on that did they?

There was no point since Sai did it for him. We thought there was, but there really wasn't. She didn't love Naruto, and that was that.

 

 

 



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:06 AM

There was no point since Sai did it for him. We thought there was, but there really wasn't. She didn't love Naruto, and that was that.

Sai was a liability to NS. He screwed us over so bad by him saying that to Sakura, which triggered the fake confession. It should have been Naruto's place to tell her that he loved her.


Edited by RedFaction, 06 December 2014 - 08:08 AM.

 


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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:07 AM

WARNING: NH Wedding


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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:09 AM

Lol, the second kiss is exactly as was described. Two shadow figures in front of a cherry blossom tree.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:10 AM

Lol, the second kiss is exactly as was described. Two shadow figures in front of a cherry blossom tree.

The last FU to the NS fandom.


 


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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:11 AM

I still want to know why he never confessed to her? They never gave an explanation on that did they?


If they at least made Naruto confess to her and move on people wouldn't have bashed him so much.
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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:12 AM

In other news, Sasuke didn't attend the wedding after all. So that reddit poster was full of kitten. He also said that Taka showed up, which I found strange considering they had no designs for this movie. That explains it.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:12 AM

There was no point since Sai did it for him. We thought there was, but there really wasn't. She didn't love Naruto, and that was that.

 

 

 

 

 

Sai was a liability to NS. He screwed us over so bad by him saying that to Sakura, which triggered the fake confession. It should have been Naruto's place to tell her that he loved her.

 

what's the point of that jutsu?

and what' that jutsu in the first place? I don't think mode=jutsu.



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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:12 AM

WARNING: NH Wedding

 

Ew. Ugh.


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Posted 06 December 2014 - 08:13 AM

If they at least made Naruto confess to her and move on people wouldn't have bashed him so much.

naruto do that and hinata will become silver medal.


Edited by rocci, 06 December 2014 - 08:13 AM.






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