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#18261 Chatte

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:36 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 28 2013, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh I get it. Lol. Don't stress yourself. happy.gif

I wonder if bthug (?) is reading our LAPs. It will be nice that we were able to help him/her about NH and NS. I don't know if he/she will have second thoughts, but everyone to themselves.

I am afraid to go and answer that for him/her because I am afraid I am going to get caught-in analyzing the whole manga. There's too much info I have stored in the past few days and it will be never-ending, but what I can say, all things point to NS.
Maga, story structure, shonen concept - like it or not, psychological studies, facial expressions, mythology, author intention with Road to Ninja, every damn thing!

Whoever doubts NS is either in denial, sorry, really sorry to call it, or it's either, dunno. Not to how should I say it? Confident enough? I don't wanna sound to off but it's the truth. Gah, I am sounding again, overly confident and full of myself.
Sorry for that!

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 28 2013, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am afraid to go and answer that for him/her because I am afraid I am going to get caught-in analyzing the whole manga. There's too much info I have stored in the past few days and it will be never-ending, but what I can say, all things point to NS.
Maga, story structure, shonen concept - like it or not, psychological studies, facial expressions, mythology, author intention with Road to Ninja, every damn thing!

Whoever doubts NS is either in denial, sorry, really sorry to call it, or it's either, dunno. Not to how should I say it? Confident enough? I don't wanna sound to off but it's the truth. Gah, I am sounding again, overly confident and full of myself.
Sorry for that!

Lol that's ok. Honestly, I'm having a somewhat hard times to put my two cents in NF because I'm trying not to sound like I'm bashing other pairing, but I have to get my message across one way or another. You can check it out. Yeah, I don't know, it's hard to go back think differently and honestly, everything will be an asspull. The damage is done. The recent chapter shows Naruto is the same guy and now the consistent characters are coming back and now, people are trying to strike us down. Well it is fear, but no need to be rude. Oh well, what can you do...

#18263 Chatte

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 28 2013, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lol that's ok. Honestly, I'm having a somewhat hard times to put my two cents in NF because I'm trying not to sound like I'm bashing other pairing, but I have to get my message across one way or another. You can check it out. Yeah, I don't know, it's hard to go back think differently and honestly, everything will be an asspull. The damage is done. The recent chapter shows Naruto is the same guy and now the consistent characters are coming back and now, people are trying to strike us down. Well it is fear, but no need to be rude. Oh well, what can you do...

Yup.. I know how it is.
God and when I think first, when I came here, I came like a wet stray puppy felt like NS didn't gonna get to be the endgame, but after I read your posts and started doing my own research I had no doubt. So I have to thank you all guys for this one, to be honest. smile.gif

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#18264 HauntedCake

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:03 PM

I still think this SS moment incoming is going to be a big moment. Kishi is going to troll and asspull something.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 28 2013, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still think this SS moment incoming is going to be a big moment. Kishi is going to troll and asspull something.

That's for sure. But there's going to be definitely ok for NS. It is the end game.
That';s why we have Karin for Sasuke. wink.gif Don't forget her, people. She basically was made for Sasuke just like Sakura was made for Naruto. The light and dark couple.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 28 2013, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still think this SS moment incoming is going to be a big moment. Kishi is going to troll and asspull something.

Calm down! happy.gif Kishi isn't as bad as people think he is. biggrin.gif

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#18267 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:17 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 28 2013, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still think this SS moment incoming is going to be a big moment. Kishi is going to troll and asspull something.

Well it will be the only moment that part 2 finally offer, but I digress. Still, I can't help but feel like something will backfire. I don't know why but it's like I said countless time that NS always ends on a high note over all others in almost every arcs. All I can say for those who wants SS moment very soon: be careful what you wish for.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 28 2013, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still think this SS moment incoming is going to be a big moment. Kishi is going to troll and asspull something.


You know what I'm not going to bother with you anymore. You have proven to believe more in SS than NS. Yes you have a right to be negative and doubt the pairing but if you want to forget about the development done to NS and the many times Kishi has squashed the SS pairing just like he has done with NH then be my guess. I don't see no SS moment coming maybe an anti moment like he did with 540 (still people are calling it a pro moment I don't know how in the world seeing Sasuke's evil face with flames background and Sakura looking with so much guilt and regret showing she's thinking negative of him can be considered a pro moment seriously). The fact Sasuke may" shown" that he has intentions in stopping Madara doesn't mean he's good (I said it and many other members that he might have an ulterior motive). Also I mentioned before Sasuke isn't going to the battlefield only for Sakura sorry but Kishi isn't going to be that retarded to disregard so much development and so many parallels to support NS just so he can make him make a 180 and say" I realized I've been in love with Sakura all along facepalm.png" it doesn't work that way. Whatever happens will happen and if there will be a possible interaction between Sasuke and Sakura I only expect Kishi to give some fan service that will eventually end up as a trolling move to the fandom like he did with 615.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:50 PM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Apr 28 2013, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Calm down! happy.gif Kishi isn't as bad as people think he is. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Apr 28 2013, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what I'm not going to bother with you anymore. You have proven to believe more in SS than NS. Yes you have a right to be negative and doubt the pairing but if you want to forget about the development done to NS and the many times Kishi has squashed the SS pairing just like he has done with NH then be my guess. I don't see no SS moment coming maybe an anti moment like he did with 540 (still people are calling it a pro moment I don't know how in the world seeing Sasuke's evil face with flames background and Sakura looking with so much guilt and regret showing she's thinking negative of him can be considered a pro moment seriously). The fact Sasuke may" shown" that he has intentions in stopping Madara doesn't mean he's good (I said it and many other members that he might have an ulterior motive). Also I mentioned before Sasuke isn't going to the battlefield only for Sakura sorry but Kishi isn't going to be that retarded to disregard so much development and so many parallels to support NS just so he can make him make a 180 and say" I realized I've been in love with Sakura all along facepalm.png" it doesn't work that way. Whatever happens will happen and if there will be a possible interaction between Sasuke and Sakura I only expect Kishi to give some fan service that will eventually end up as a trolling move to the fandom like he did with 615.


Hmm... I believe in kishi's asspulling more then NS not SS. I kittening hate SS i hope that kitten sinks to the abyss.

Bolded: Well don't "bother" with me anymore then. Simple wink.gif

Note: What happens if some heavy NH/SS interaction happens??? will you downplay Hinata snogging Naruto as only "friendly"??? or a Sakura/Sasuke make out sesh???
(Bad examples but....) the point stands dry.gif


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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:57 PM

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Hmm... I believe in kishi's asspulling more then NS not SS. I kittening hate SS i hope that kitten sinks to the abyss.

Bolded: Well don't "bother" with me anymore then. Simple wink.gif

Note: What happens if some heavy NH/SS interaction happens??? will you downplay Hinata snogging Naruto as only "friendly"??? or a Sakura/Sasuke make out sesh???
(Bad examples but....) the point stands dry.gif

Downplay sesh not sure if...


You have a poin that SS only exist if Kishimoto continue with his bad storytelling road, but as i said, NS has way more development, but he would surely destroy Sakura's character and for me the big loser is him, because different than great writers who didnt care about what the audience think, he would just be a gold digger writer and nothing else, he can make other mangas but will be marked that developments coming from Kishimoto does not have any value.
He can make NS canon i would give some points for him but even with or without NS being canon he's not a great writer.

Also about NS kishimoto closed so many roads on how NS could be canon that i cant even predict how it will be certainly if it happens(80%) he will surprise me and basically the whole NS fandom.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 10:07 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 28 2013, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Hmm... I believe in kishi's asspulling more then NS not SS. I kittening hate SS i hope that kitten sinks to the abyss.

Bolded: Well don't "bother" with me anymore then. Simple wink.gif

Note: What happens if some heavy NH/SS interaction happens??? will you downplay Hinata snogging Naruto as only "friendly"??? or a Sakura/Sasuke make out sesh???
(Bad examples but....) the point stands dry.gif


A heavy NH/SS interaction hmm...Let's see. It's been 628 chapters and still no interaction that might indicate anything romantic or giving a pairing hint. If it hasn't happened this late in the story it won't happen at all.
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Posted 28 April 2013 - 10:09 PM

Keep calm and HAVE FAITH!: http://chatte-georgi...f-fate-narusaku

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 10:20 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 29 2013, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keep calm and HAVE FAITH!: http://chatte-georgi...f-fate-narusaku

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Chatte..... sad.gif .......You do realise that liking your own posts is like giving yourself a higfive right?

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 28 2013, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chatte..... sad.gif .......You do realise that liking your own posts is like giving yourself a higfive right?

What? No, I don't. I just wanted to share some info and I even gave credits to the original poster. :|
I just added some things like the thing with the Toad Sage, that's it.
And I was thinking that this might cheer-up the mood... but meh, anyway.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 10:38 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 28 2013, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chatte..... sad.gif .......You do realise that liking your own posts is like giving yourself a higfive right?

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 10:51 PM

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Hmm... I believe in kishi's asspulling more then NS not SS. I kittening hate SS i hope that kitten sinks to the abyss.

Bolded: Well don't "bother" with me anymore then. Simple wink.gif

Note: What happens if some heavy NH/SS interaction happens??? will you downplay Hinata snogging Naruto as only "friendly"??? or a Sakura/Sasuke make out sesh???
(Bad examples but....) the point stands dry.gif


Is that before or after she faints ?


I don't think NH will get anymore interaction. She's had her moment. Only interaction i could see would involve some sort of closure on Hinata's feelings for Naruto. So basically good for us.

I could see some SS interaction. Because i believe Sakura needs to overcome her "love" for Sasuke before she can give in to her feelings for Naruto.
I think she needs to get some sort of closure on her feelings for Sasuke. So i don't see how that would be possible without some sort of interaction between the 2 of them.

I could see us getting tortured by Kishi. Making it seem like Sakura will choose Sasuke only to troll NH and SS fans and have her choose Naruto instead.
We know Kishi likes to troll and show NH/SS moments only to have them topped by an NS moment. tongue.gif



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 10:54 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 28 2013, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keep calm and HAVE FAITH!: http://chatte-georgi...f-fate-narusaku

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Not sure who started to lose faith but...wow that post is great. I didn't think about that. You know, imagine if they actually brought that back again. Speaking of that, I just remember that he made a predication that Naruto will fight a guy with evil eyes, so does that mean Naruto vs. Sasuke is really sealed then? It could be tricky, but then again, he was getting to close to reveal the result but Naruto cut it off. So yeah, I guess it's destiny that they will fight.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 11:31 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 28 2013, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keep calm and HAVE FAITH!: http://chatte-georgi...f-fate-narusaku

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I'm almost tempted to go to GF just to purvey that link. Your post was spectacular and it really is an informative piece of literacy. Personally I have little comprehension of those mythological concepts. I interpret the Naruto franchise similarly as I would with any fictional literary creation but I understand that there is an incredible amount of depth to itself. You really deserve all the praise that you receive. If anything should be at the forefront of debating material for NS it should be your posts because to be honest it's difficult to find such things on other forums that reinforces NS or there is a general lack of concern for it because people are complacent in their views.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:11 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 28 2013, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am afraid to go and answer that for him/her because I am afraid I am going to get caught-in analyzing the whole manga. There's too much info I have stored in the past few days and it will be never-ending, but what I can say, all things point to NS.
Maga, story structure, shonen concept - like it or not, psychological studies, facial expressions, mythology, author intention with Road to Ninja, every damn thing!

Whoever doubts NS is either in denial, sorry, really sorry to call it, or it's either, dunno. Not to how should I say it? Confident enough? I don't wanna sound to off but it's the truth. Gah, I am sounding again, overly confident and full of myself.
Sorry for that!


Well the only thing we can count is the manga but thats where it counts, many things are still NaruSaku developed. As I said before though, Sakura will have some big moment or speech to Naruto, if not this arc then the Naruto vs Sasuke arc. They are going to fight, Sakura is going to be concerned.

Also at Darkrest I wouldn't say Kishi just closed off so many routes to NS, I mean there are still hundreds of ways it can come. Given the position of the manga for now, we really don't know what will come given the battlefield and the power it just unleashed, all we know is the kages coming and the kakashi vs obito fight, even then Sasuke may take a detour for something else if he does not go right to the battlefield. Its just in a state of things can become good of just sink and the story can become messed up. For now the story is intact and NS is green but its just an unknown route for now.

Also for anyone worrying if we get a scene like Sakura being in trouble and Sasuke suddenly saves her, I woundn't absolutely panic about SS, I mean remember, the fight between Naruto and Sasuke could almost be an ace in the hole for NS. Plus Hinata has no role or purpose in this area, this is a territory we cannot lose, Hinata is practically barred from this.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:14 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 29 2013, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What? No, I don't. I just wanted to share some info and I even gave credits to the original poster. :|
I just added some things like the thing with the Toad Sage, that's it.
And I was thinking that this might cheer-up the mood... but meh, anyway.


Oh no not what I ment at all. In the post theres a like section and its said Chatte likes this. So I ment it in the "like" (facebook style) sense. I can see how you could missunderstand me.

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