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[Tokura Misaki]

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[Akashi]

I usually don't point out something I don't see in someones post but if you saying that you didn't meant it that way the I'm really sorry.

Lol, that's fine, no worries.

[megi]

Has anyone noticed this before? I am using Mangapanda's picture here.

I'm focusing on the last two pages, the one with the wide panel on top with Naruto and Sasuke blasting away the Juubi from Sakura

 

 

 

If you separate it into two pages, the first page, with Naruto appearing in the top wide panel, we can see at the bottom that she reacts to Sasuke.

On the next page (side), Sasuke has an appearance in the wide panel on top, but Sakura's reactions are centered on Naruto. Looks like a premeditation on Kishi's part!

 

I know there was discussion about the last panel a few pages back - whether Sakura's "back to back" comment was directed at Naruto or at both of them. I can add some more insight on it on top of the placement of Sakura's gaze.

The words she uses does mean "This time we'll go back-to-back!", same meaning in both Japanese and English.

 

In Japanese language, it is very common to use separate words when describing 2 subjects and describing 3+ subjects.

Sakura's words -> 背中合わせでいくねよ！are intended for Naruto, but is also an extension to Sasuke as default.

Those words are usually used to describe situation of 2 people who are on same side facing opposite sides. Also to describe a coin, which has two faces but are both a part of one coin. So yes she is talking directly Naruto, but with the situation it is implying joining all 3 of their backs. Just a little explanation for anybody interested   .

[Phantom_999]

Well, to be more precise it was a NaruSasu combo rescue. She called Sasuke's name because he landed next to her first.

 

I know that. But they don't see it. I checked the panel and it only showed Sasuke in it anyway, So unless Naruto was right there too, Sakura was not deliberately ignoring him, She only saw Sasuke. People make it seem like ship tease though, for some reason. But again that is only IF she was ignoring Naruto on purpose which I doubt, cause Kishi is not so careless with the development of his characters.

[TouKen4Life3g]

NS isn't officially canon, but it's on its way. NS having only this huge development between the two characters is enough without other developments or parallels or the other things.
 
Sure Kishi can not make any pairing at the end, but after all this with NS... I don't think so.

You know what I like. Not any one of them are there to say that they're paralleled with someone or trying to make them think of their feelings. Sai was the only one but he was being annoyed that he's acknowledged to be Team 7 yet Naruto don't want him to help. Anyway, the point is that they are developing their relationship on their own, not need of help of "Oh I love him? But how?" or "Oh so I'm the same as Naruto's mother, and she wants him to find a girl like her? Well I guess I'll give it a whirl." The point of third party and parallels is to give the audience, repeat the audience, the idea of what's going to be in the future/end. Otherwise, many of them are pointless in the real world. But this is literature, so you get the picture. No pun intended.

[六道仙人]

Has anyone noticed this before? I am using Mangapanda's picture here.

I'm focusing on the last two pages, the one with the wide panel on top with Naruto and Sasuke blasting away the Juubi from Sakura

 

 

 

If you separate it into two pages, the first page, with Naruto appearing in the top wide panel, we can see at the bottom that she reacts to Sasuke.

On the next page (side), Sasuke has an appearance in the wide panel on top, but Sakura's reactions are centered on Naruto. Looks like a premeditation on Kishi's part!

 

I know there was discussion about the last panel a few pages back - whether Sakura's "back to back" comment was directed at Naruto or at both of them. I can add some more insight on it on top of the placement of Sakura's gaze.

The words she uses does mean "This time we'll go back-to-back!", same meaning in both Japanese and English.

 

In Japanese language, it is very common to use separate words when describing 2 subjects and describing 3+ subjects.

Sakura's words -> 背中合わせでいくねよ！are intended for Naruto, but is also an extension to Sasuke as default.

Those words are usually used to describe situation of 2 people who are on same side facing opposite sides. Also to describe a coin, which has two faces but are both a part of one coin. So yes she is talking directly Naruto, but with the situation it is implying joining all 3 of their backs. Just a little explanation for anybody interested   .

 

I agree..! I also written a similar thing on my previous post here! I had the same impressione as yours by seeing the raw. Sakura was talking definitely to Naruto in the last 2 panel of her.

[James S Cassidy]

The sad thing is that about 80% (or even more) of the fandom are constantly viewing manga with the pairing goggles on. Yet they say that they're NARUTO fans first of all.. I often see arguments like "Kishi's damaging her character", "why is he making her do this, what about all the development she went though?" etc. I bet that those are just mere excuses of people who are pissed off about why he's not making NS canon already.

Guys, I sincerely respect and adore any one of you, but don't you think that you're sometimes overreacting a bit too much? I guess that Kishi would have done Sakura's character way more damage if he made her forget all the feeling she had for Sasuke and jump into Naruto's hands.. he needs to give his characters (even pairing-wise) a proper resolution. Sakura still has lingering feelings for Sasuke.. we can't deny it as well as the fact that she has growing feelings for Naruto. No reason to jump out of our pants every time Sakura and Sasuke appear on the same panel, or somehow interact. Same goes for Naruto and Hinata.

 

It's not like our complaints will affect the story, anyway... I know that Kishi is now the best author out there, but he's not as bad as we take him to be sometimes. It's just a good thing to take off pairing goggles more often and just enjoy the story. To cheer you guys up let me mention that right now NS has the best chance of happening than SS or NH.

 

Cheers~

I am not sure if you are referring to me, Tauriel, but I am going to assume that you are and say that if what you say is about me, I am afraid you are wrong about something. See, I did take my shipping goggles off for this analysis because I am not trying to look at how bad it is for NS, I am looking at how bad this could be to the story itself.

Perhaps I should have made it more clear and for that I apologize, but I will like to explain now if you care to listen. Many fans are saying that we are going to get a SS moment that reintroduces Sakura's lingering feelings and bring back the love triangle. We both agree that many fans assumed it was in this chapter with that one panel. (Me and Shadow Wolf both agree that if Sakura was indeed blushing in that panel, why is it so hard to make out? Usually, if it was important, the panel would be bigger to show it's importance. Like Sakura's technique getting like half a page for emphasis. This is why we agree it is not blushing.)
 

My posts were not to say what is, but rather why what people think would happen would be a bad idea from a writer's stand point. So I am not trying to think of this through pairing goggles, but rather look at the cost to Sakura's character herself. As I said, she already gets enough flak for all the problems that don't exists, I don't think Kishi should actually give a good reason to hate her. Not after all this awesome stuff that just happen. As you said and so did I, let the fans create the drama.

If Kishi were to reintroduce or reinforce the love triangle, it would severely cause problems in the manga for Sakura's character alone. Especially if it is a moment where it has no resolution at the end of it. (My point of "the next time a pairing moment occurs is when it should be the final decision" is what I think should happen. Until then keep it as ambiguous as you possibly can and let the fan deal with it. That would be the smart way.) The problem is is that Kishi wanted Sakura to be this intelligent, strong, woman who made mistakes, but can also learn from them. This will counter act all that and really put Sakura in a bad light.

I think Kishi had made it clear that Sasuke is never gonna love Sakura. If after all this he still feels nothing for her, then it is a dead ringer that SS is not gonna happen. I'm sorry, but this is not an invalid argument as some have tried to argue. You can't be in a relationship with someone who doesn't want you. There is nothing you can do about it. Yeah Kishi can write the manga how he wants, but looking at what he has done and the continuity he has written he hasn't even made an attempt to make any hints. That speaks a lot. To push that into Sasuke now is to asspull your way into a drama and while Sasuke is an asspull when it comes to plot armor, he has not asspulled about his "love life."

Now, I really don't care about Sasuke, but I do care about Sakura. Again, just from a pure writing stand point and story telling, to have Sakura continue with "lingering feelings" at this very time is NOT a good strategy. We know can be a good writer, but do people really think Kishi would write something like that? It would be cheap and he would get alot more backlash about Sakura even more than he got from Sakura's confession. Common sense should dictate this and I believe he does know that if he makes one slip the fans will be on it.

We also have the problem with people being biased, but I believe if Kishi is willing he could use this to his advantage. Again, like I said he could do nothing and just make people believe what they want until when he finally reveals the truth. He has enough background in past chapters to show this and let the fans decide for themselves.

You said, Tauriel, that Sakura is not a pairing fodder character and this is true. However, I don't want her reduced to pairing fodder either which bringing those supposed "lingering feelings" will do to her. I don't want that to happen to Sakura. Not just when she started to show her true self and her true strength. So this is why I posted what I said and why it is a ridiculous story element now. The only thing that should be at this point is if Kishi puts Sakura in a situation where she has to choose between Sasuke and Naruto and she goes to Naruto. That is the only acceptable thing I can think of that will be acceptable and not reduce her character to just pairing fodder, but an actual human being trying to choose the right thing. Yeah it can be a "romantic fodder" moment, but I could also agrue she is choosing between her love and her best friend and teammate who is also her love's best friend and teammate.

Awes9, actually makes a good point. The whole Sasuke thing is terrible on all fronts, not just on pairing wars front. I can't quite put y finger one exactly the problem. maybe it is because of everything from the asspulls, to the plot armor, and even the Chaotic neutral personality.

[HauntedCake]

I usually don't point out something I don't see in someones post but if you saying that you didn't meant it that way the I'm really sorry.

 

I can't agree with you and worst with what he said, in fans eyes it might seems that they only care with boys Sakura will end with in the end, but there is a lot more about Sakura that want people want to accept, like for example even when it's just a filler Sakura stoking an apple in Naruto's mouth was very funny, there is many aspect of Sakura character, like her compassion, her medical skills evolution, Inner Sakura, her care for others, her care for her teammates, her desire to not be a hindrance to her teammates, her desire to be stronger, her interaction with Ino, her funny moment etc, sadly some just focus on who she would end up with plus the laud fans also help deviate that aspect of her character from others who try to enjoy everything about her character.

Hinata character is so heavily revolve around her feeling so there is no discussion who she likes, in Sakura's case if her Romantic feelings were the focus of her character it would be obvious who she wants to be with, her character was about 20% 25% focus on her feelings and is mostly because of part 1.

I didn't mean that a portion of her character development is pairing related, rather it's to do with the boys.... ughh i'm getting lost in chain of thought.... Nvm i'm getting confused now LOL

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[HauntedCake]

You said, Tauriel, that Sakura is not a pairing fodder character and this is true. However, I don't want her reduced to pairing fodder either which bringing those supposed "lingering feelings" will do to her. I don't want that to happen to Sakura. Not just when she started to show her true self and her true strength. So this is why I posted what I said and why it is a ridiculous story element now. The only thing that should be at this point is if Kishi puts Sakura in a situation where she has to choose between Sasuke and Naruto and she goes to Naruto. That is the only acceptable thing I can think of that will be acceptable and not reduce her character to just pairing fodder, but an actual human being trying to choose the right thing. Yeah it can be a "romantic fodder" moment, but I could also agrue she is choosing between her love and her best friend and teammate who is also her love's best friend and teammate.

Bolded: How can she choose between a love and a friend? Surely they both have to be love interests?

[Inferno180]

With the stuff over that panel, it really is just as I said back on Wednesday, what did it really accomplish? Nothing, it didn't undermine or overrun 630 or 631 in anyway shape or form. If it did anything for SS, it really didn't even improve anything marginally. If 631 caused a torpedo event towards NH and SS, SS only retaliated by throwing a tiny pebble, as I said before, what does this accomplish? A tiny rock cannot sink an entire ship.

 

I'm kinda surprised this fuss over it has lasted this long. Whatever was discussed, the overall facts remain, Sakura is not reverting or forgetting about Naruto, its not advancing SS in anyway, People have issues with the whole quick notslagic team 7 thing but does it really make things bad? I mean remember, Hinata glossed over Neji's death it almost seemed like back in 615, Sakura was mature when Sasuke returned in 631, she is not going to be all over him now. She has her feelings still as far as we know but its able to change, Again, SS stuff can happen right now, but so can NS, the unlucky one here is NH, its locked out from any major interaction chances long as team 7 is around and within the focus. If anything the last page after Sakura was protected from the giant jubbi clone was a team 7 moment, its as some people said, she said Sasuke but then talked to Naruto for the rest of the chapter. Its not going to matter next chapter, it was a moment, moments always come and go. I mean we have had a string of NS moments these past few chapters, the girlfriend comment, Sakura giving Naruto the determined look and said she could fight, and now Naruto being surprised at her power. We have a high chance of another one next chapter too. Even then, this thing with Sasuke came and went, its done. So yeah, we need to take off the pairing goggles, otherwise if interaction like this screamed canon everytime, we would have won this already 10 times over by now.

 

Haters will hate all they want, I mean I saw a comment on mangahere about more Sakura bashing and they said, "How come they won't show Hinata and her awesomeness." Or "Sakura is a ***** and treats him bad."

 

All i can say leave this people who know nothing alone, let them wallow in their hate and confusion. But hey when a majority of the audience is like, "Derp I think my American culture is universal and applies everywhere, other cultures don't matter here, its all obviously like in America." and those who simply cannot understand character roles and story structure or context, they should go back to a literature class and learn this stuff for a reason.

[Zatheko]

With the stuff over that panel, it really is just as I said back on Wednesday, what did it really accomplish? Nothing, it didn't undermine or overrun 630 or 631 in anyway shape or form. If it did anything for SS, it really didn't even improve anything marginally. If 631 caused a torpedo event towards NH and SS, SS only retaliated by throwing a tiny pebble, as I said before, what does this accomplish? A tiny rock cannot sink an entire ship.

 

I'm kinda surprised this fuss over it has lasted this long. Whatever was discussed, the overall facts remain, Sakura is not reverting or forgetting about Naruto, its not advancing SS in anyway, People have issues with the whole quick notslagic team 7 thing but does it really make things bad? I mean remember, Hinata glossed over Neji's death it almost seemed like back in 615, Sakura was mature when Sasuke returned in 631, she is not going to be all over him now. She has her feelings still as far as we know but its able to change, Again, SS stuff can happen right now, but so can NS, the unlucky one here is NH, its locked out from any major interaction chances long as team 7 is around and within the focus. If anything the last page after Sakura was protected from the giant jubbi clone was a team 7 moment, its as some people said, she said Sasuke but then talked to Naruto for the rest of the chapter. Its not going to matter next chapter, it was a moment, moments always come and go. I mean we have had a string of NS moments these past few chapters, the girlfriend comment, Sakura giving Naruto the determined look and said she could fight, and now Naruto being surprised at her power. We have a high chance of another one next chapter too. Even then, this thing with Sasuke came and went, its done. So yeah, we need to take off the pairing goggles, otherwise if interaction like this screamed canon everytime, we would have won this already 10 times over by now.

 

Haters will hate all they want, I mean I saw a comment on mangahere about more Sakura bashing and they said, "How come they won't show Hinata and her awesomeness." Or "Sakura is a ***** and treats him bad."

 

All i can say leave this people who know nothing alone, let them wallow in their hate and confusion. But hey when a majority of the audience is like, "Derp I think my American culture is universal and applies everywhere, other cultures don't matter here, its all obviously like in America." and those who simply cannot understand character roles and story structure or context, they should go back to a literature class and learn this stuff for a reason.

You never cease to amaze with your posts.

 

@James I agree pretty much with everything you said and to add on to the Sasuke thing, If Kishi truly wanted Sasuke to be with Sakura (or anyone for that matter) then he would have put romance as part of his story / plot but he didn't, Sasuke's story has always been about family either from blood family like itachi or a bond between "brothers" with Naruto. I truly don't think Sasuke was ever supposed to have any romantic development because romance was never a part of his story to begin with. Unlike Naruto's story which has had romance foreshadowing from as early as chapter 3.

 

 

 

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Edited by zatheko, 01 June 2013 - 06:11 PM.

[Phantom_999]

I am not sure if you are referring to me, Tauriel, but I am going to assume that you are and say that if what you say is about me, I am afraid you are wrong about something. See, I did take my shipping goggles off for this analysis because I am not trying to look at how bad it is for NS, I am looking at how bad this could be to the story itself.

Perhaps I should have made it more clear and for that I apologize, but I will like to explain now if you care to listen. Many fans are saying that we are going to get a SS moment that reintroduces Sakura's lingering feelings and bring back the love triangle. We both agree that many fans assumed it was in this chapter with that one panel. (Me and Shadow Wolf both agree that if Sakura was indeed blushing in that panel, why is it so hard to make out? Usually, if it was important, the panel would be bigger to show it's importance. Like Sakura's technique getting like half a page for emphasis. This is why we agree it is not blushing.)
 

My posts were not to say what is, but rather why what people think would happen would be a bad idea from a writer's stand point. So I am not trying to think of this through pairing goggles, but rather look at the cost to Sakura's character herself. As I said, she already gets enough flak for all the problems that don't exists, I don't think Kishi should actually give a good reason to hate her. Not after all this awesome stuff that just happen. As you said and so did I, let the fans create the drama.

If Kishi were to reintroduce or reinforce the love triangle, it would severely cause problems in the manga for Sakura's character alone. Especially if it is a moment where it has no resolution at the end of it. (My point of "the next time a pairing moment occurs is when it should be the final decision" is what I think should happen. Until then keep it as ambiguous as you possibly can and let the fan deal with it. That would be the smart way.) The problem is is that Kishi wanted Sakura to be this intelligent, strong, woman who made mistakes, but can also learn from them. This will counter act all that and really put Sakura in a bad light.

I think Kishi had made it clear that Sasuke is never gonna love Sakura. If after all this he still feels nothing for her, then it is a dead ringer that SS is not gonna happen. I'm sorry, but this is not an invalid argument as some have tried to argue. You can't be in a relationship with someone who doesn't want you. There is nothing you can do about it. Yeah Kishi can write the manga how he wants, but looking at what he has done and the continuity he has written he hasn't even made an attempt to make any hints. That speaks a lot. To push that into Sasuke now is to asspull your way into a drama and while Sasuke is an asspull when it comes to plot armor, he has not asspulled about his "love life."

Now, I really don't care about Sasuke, but I do care about Sakura. Again, just from a pure writing stand point and story telling, to have Sakura continue with "lingering feelings" at this very time is NOT a good strategy. We know can be a good writer, but do people really think Kishi would write something like that? It would be cheap and he would get alot more backlash about Sakura even more than he got from Sakura's confession. Common sense should dictate this and I believe he does know that if he makes one slip the fans will be on it.

We also have the problem with people being biased, but I believe if Kishi is willing he could use this to his advantage. Again, like I said he could do nothing and just make people believe what they want until when he finally reveals the truth. He has enough background in past chapters to show this and let the fans decide for themselves.

You said, Tauriel, that Sakura is not a pairing fodder character and this is true. However, I don't want her reduced to pairing fodder either which bringing those supposed "lingering feelings" will do to her. I don't want that to happen to Sakura. Not just when she started to show her true self and her true strength. So this is why I posted what I said and why it is a ridiculous story element now. The only thing that should be at this point is if Kishi puts Sakura in a situation where she has to choose between Sasuke and Naruto and she goes to Naruto. That is the only acceptable thing I can think of that will be acceptable and not reduce her character to just pairing fodder, but an actual human being trying to choose the right thing. Yeah it can be a "romantic fodder" moment, but I could also agrue she is choosing between her love and her best friend and teammate who is also her love's best friend and teammate.

Awes9, actually makes a good point. The whole Sasuke thing is terrible on all fronts, not just on pairing wars front. I can't quite put y finger one exactly the problem. maybe it is because of everything from the asspulls, to the plot armor, and even the Chaotic neutral personality.

 

Yeah I agree with that James. I love Sakura's character and it is because I love her character that I' don't appreciate anything that can cause fans to hate her for no reason. The worst cases are the confession and the thinking about Sasuke after that speech about having someone she loves. Both have caused unneeded grievances for her character and while I think those are defining moments for her growth, fans made it clear they don't think of it that way and have expressed it thoroughly to Kishimoto. So Kishi should understand by now that what he draws with Sakura can be susceptible to whiplash and that having her "reawaken" her crush on Sasuke is a sure way to give fans the impression that Sakura is immature and would never let go of someone who won't return her feelings, even though that is not his intention. So While he should not be influenced by fan opinions, he should bear in mind what effect he is giving them so far at the very least. I am sure he loves Sakura very much and wants to portray her as a proper heroine so these things need to be accounted for. I don't mind what he does and would continue to see Sakura as one of my favourite characters in the entire series either way, but it's clear he has developed her really well, and to put back in  a part of her character that was a part of her immaturity would not do her justice, especially not at such a delicate situation where she is starting to earn back fans.    

Edited by Phantom_999, 01 June 2013 - 06:20 PM.

[T XD]

You know what I like. Not any one of them are there to say that they're paralleled with someone or trying to make them think of their feelings. Sai was the only one but he was being annoyed that he's acknowledged to be Team 7 yet Naruto don't want him to help. Anyway, the point is that they are developing their relationship on their own, not need of help of "Oh I love him? But how?" or "Oh so I'm the same as Naruto's mother, and she wants him to find a girl like her? Well I guess I'll give it a whirl." The point of third party and parallels is to give the audience, repeat the audience, the idea of what's going to be in the future/end. Otherwise, many of them are pointless in the real world. But this is literature, so you get the picture. No pun intended.

Exactly. Doing all this is for the sake of the end.We have to read how the author is going with the story rather wanting something from a story and making some of the ideas into our way for the story to go.

[Akashi]

I am not sure if you are referring to me, Tauriel, but I am going to assume that you are and say that if what you say is about me, I am afraid you are wrong about something. See, I did take my shipping goggles off for this analysis because I am not trying to look at how bad it is for NS, I am looking at how bad this could be to the story itself.

Perhaps I should have made it more clear and for that I apologize, but I will like to explain now if you care to listen. Many fans are saying that we are going to get a SS moment that reintroduces Sakura's lingering feelings and bring back the love triangle. We both agree that many fans assumed it was in this chapter with that one panel. (Me and Shadow Wolf both agree that if Sakura was indeed blushing in that panel, why is it so hard to make out? Usually, if it was important, the panel would be bigger to show it's importance. Like Sakura's technique getting like half a page for emphasis. This is why we agree it is not blushing.)
 

My posts were not to say what is, but rather why what people think would happen would be a bad idea from a writer's stand point. So I am not trying to think of this through pairing goggles, but rather look at the cost to Sakura's character herself. As I said, she already gets enough flak for all the problems that don't exists, I don't think Kishi should actually give a good reason to hate her. Not after all this awesome stuff that just happen. As you said and so did I, let the fans create the drama.

If Kishi were to reintroduce or reinforce the love triangle, it would severely cause problems in the manga for Sakura's character alone. Especially if it is a moment where it has no resolution at the end of it. (My point of "the next time a pairing moment occurs is when it should be the final decision" is what I think should happen. Until then keep it as ambiguous as you possibly can and let the fan deal with it. That would be the smart way.) The problem is is that Kishi wanted Sakura to be this intelligent, strong, woman who made mistakes, but can also learn from them. This will counter act all that and really put Sakura in a bad light.

I think Kishi had made it clear that Sasuke is never gonna love Sakura. If after all this he still feels nothing for her, then it is a dead ringer that SS is not gonna happen. I'm sorry, but this is not an invalid argument as some have tried to argue. You can't be in a relationship with someone who doesn't want you. There is nothing you can do about it. Yeah Kishi can write the manga how he wants, but looking at what he has done and the continuity he has written he hasn't even made an attempt to make any hints. That speaks a lot. To push that into Sasuke now is to asspull your way into a drama and while Sasuke is an asspull when it comes to plot armor, he has not asspulled about his "love life."

Now, I really don't care about Sasuke, but I do care about Sakura. Again, just from a pure writing stand point and story telling, to have Sakura continue with "lingering feelings" at this very time is NOT a good strategy. We know can be a good writer, but do people really think Kishi would write something like that? It would be cheap and he would get alot more backlash about Sakura even more than he got from Sakura's confession. Common sense should dictate this and I believe he does know that if he makes one slip the fans will be on it.

We also have the problem with people being biased, but I believe if Kishi is willing he could use this to his advantage. Again, like I said he could do nothing and just make people believe what they want until when he finally reveals the truth. He has enough background in past chapters to show this and let the fans decide for themselves.

You said, Tauriel, that Sakura is not a pairing fodder character and this is true. However, I don't want her reduced to pairing fodder either which bringing those supposed "lingering feelings" will do to her. I don't want that to happen to Sakura. Not just when she started to show her true self and her true strength. So this is why I posted what I said and why it is a ridiculous story element now. The only thing that should be at this point is if Kishi puts Sakura in a situation where she has to choose between Sasuke and Naruto and she goes to Naruto. That is the only acceptable thing I can think of that will be acceptable and not reduce her character to just pairing fodder, but an actual human being trying to choose the right thing. Yeah it can be a "romantic fodder" moment, but I could also agrue she is choosing between her love and her best friend and teammate who is also her love's best friend and teammate.

Awes9, actually makes a good point. The whole Sasuke thing is terrible on all fronts, not just on pairing wars front. I can't quite put y finger one exactly the problem. maybe it is because of everything from the asspulls, to the plot armor, and even the Chaotic neutral personality.

I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, James. :)

That's why I said we shouldn't overreact: Sakura reacting to Sasuke didn't have any romantic subplot (at least for me). She treats him more like a teammate/comrade. She always wanted team 7 to reunite and fight together once again: that's what happened. I think she's just happy that her team is reunited and that she's finally strong enough to fight alongside Naruto and Sasuke.

After everything what's happened so far, I don't think that Sakura will show any sights of romance/affection towards Sasuke. The lingering feelings should be addressed anyway. It's not like you loved someone and then *pop*: you forget everything all of a sudden. Those feeling could be anything.. it's not necessarily some strong affection. The only positive SS moments I can remember are the "thank you" and the bench scenes. Although we know that the latter is a NS moment, Sakura doesn't know that it was Naruto who complimented her forehead. Once she finds out, she'll realize that Sasuke never loved her back and that she never really had a reason to love him.

Edited by Tauriel, 01 June 2013 - 06:17 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Exactly. Doing all this is for the sake of the end.We have to read how the author is going with the story rather wanting something from a story and making some of the ideas into our way for the story to go.

Yes. That's why I'm relax because pretty much the author already told you that this is the destination point that's waiting for the plot to reach.

Btw, great posts, you guys.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 01 June 2013 - 06:18 PM.

[T XD]

 

Yeah I agree with that James. I love Sakura's character and it is because I love her character that I' don't appreciate anything that can cause fans to hate her for no reason. The worst cases are the confession and the thinking about Sasuke after that speech about having someone she loves. Both have caused unneeded grievances for her character and while I think those are defining moments for her growth, fans made it clear they don't think of it hat way and have expressed it thoroughly to Kishimoto. So Kishi should understand by now that what he draws with Sakura can be susceptible to whiplash and that having her "reawaken" her crush on Sasuke is a sure way to give fans the impression that Sakura is immature and would never let go of someone who won't return her feelings, even though that is not his intention. So While he should not be influenced by fan opinions, he should bear in mind what effect he is giving them so far at the very least.   

The thing is that some fans want to read what Sakura is saying by their own way. For example, when Sakura said in this chapter " Sasuke -kun ", they made it sound like she has the childish crush on him, whereas she was saying it cause she's happy that the person, who was her teammate and was against her and Naruto, now defending her. Happy for what's he doing now... backing her up.

 

She has her leftover feelings for him, but Kishi isn't bringing them up now. The whole last page was to show Team 7 dynamic and back to back.

Edited by T XD, 01 June 2013 - 06:32 PM.

[Zatheko]

The thing is that some fans want to read what Sakura is saying by their own way. For example, when Sakura said in this chapter " Sasuke -kun ", they made it sound like she has the childish crush on him, whereas she was saying it cause she's happy that the person who was her teammate and was against her and Naruto and now defending her. Happy for what's he doing now.

 

She has her leftover feelings for him, but Kishi isn't bringing up them now. The whole last page was to show Team 7 dynamic and back to back.

Agreed, this is exactly what is happening, they assume this means SS when in reality all it is showing is team 7 being back in action. Wouldn't anybody be happy to see an old friend who turned enemy finally back on your side helping you?

 

Plus the whole "Sasuke-Kun" thing is making a lot of people say its a SS moment because she still adds "kun" to his name, I believe this is done out of habit because every character still uses the same suffixes that they used back in part one. Another thing they need to notice is that a lot of people still call Sasuke "Sasuke-Kun" but really only one person calls Sakura "Sakura-Chan". These whole suffix things aren't going to change, even when NS becomes canon I am sure Sakura will still call him Naruto and Sasuke "Sasuke-Kun". Same goes for the other way around, if NH or SS were to happen I am 100% sure Naruto will always her Sakura-Chan.

[HauntedCake]

Its funny isn't it? The k11 said its nostolgic that team 7 is back and everyone is back together again. But we have shikamaru saying he won't acknolwedge sasuke and jugo saying Sasuke is planning something.

 

We can almost assume this reunion won't last for very long and once the 10 tails is dealt with or subdued by Sasuke all hell's going to break loose.

 

I don't think team taka will fight against new team 7 because team 7 will stomp team taka (except sasuke), wouldn't be exciting to have Taka vs team 7. Does Karin have combat abilites?

 

One solution is to have orochimaru use the hokages to aid taka? seems then the scales will tip too far in Taka's favour.

 

Another would be to make Sasuke OP? with him taking the 10 tails? and taking on the alliance?

 

Really cloudy the future is....

[T XD]

Its funny isn't it? The k11 said its nostolgic that team 7 is back and everyone is back together again. But we have shikamaru saying he won't acknolwedge sasuke and jugo saying Sasuke is planning something.

 

We can almost assume this reunion won't last for very long and once the 10 tails is dealt with or subdued by Sasuke all hell's going to break loose.

 

I don't think team taka will fight against new team 7 because team 7 will stomp team taka (except sasuke), wouldn't be exciting to have Taka vs team 7. Does Karin have combat abilites?

 

One solution is to have orochimaru use the hokages to aid taka? seems then the scales will tip too far in Taka's favour.

 

Another would be to make Sasuke OP? with him taking the 10 tails? and taking on the alliance?

 

Really cloudy the future is....

If all of Team Taka are going to be present in the Naruto vs Sasuke fight... Then most probably, Naruto, Sakura, Sai and Kakashi are going to fight them.

 

I don't think that the Hokages are going to be shown after this battle.

 

Sasuke can do anything. He's a surprise since the beginning of the series. Though, I don't think he'll control the ten tails and going against the alliance. Thinking at best, he wants to be Hokage and turning against the alliance ?... Nop XD

Edited by T XD, 01 June 2013 - 06:41 PM.