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[TouKen4Life3g]

I think there will be a NS moment in this arc from naruto side.

Possible. We got bits here and there but who knows if there's a standout moment.

[Inferno180]

I'm not suprised from seeing stuff as I did from my first day on tumblr,

 

just like how so many avoided a simple notion with sakura being the only girl compared to kushina so far, despite the other developments as well,

 

in this case, the question everyone was making a fuss over was what changed in sakuras feelings for sasuke, so naturally I asked the question how much did it change, its confirmed its not the same, so its either decreased as we say or somehow increased as the otherway many have not mentioned so I asked this question, still no response. If this is how it is, well if kishi is telling us that Sakura still loves Sasuke, then there has to be evidence saying theres a reason for this too occur, we need some clue or meaningful reason for her to still somehow love him more than she did and some legitimate reason for her to love him more despite the only deal of SS in the entirety of part 2 being just antagonistic. If Sakura's love seriously increased, if thats what this change is then despite the mistrust still lingering around, what reasons are there to say its increased, this is seriously what I asked on tumblr and have yet to receive even any answer or reply, this is a simple question even directed to them, they keep saying its increased or its better, that if its really just SS reenforcement, then it has to have gone up, then they should logically provide an answer for this claim, I mean we can say its decreasing due to mistrust and just the fact that sakura is still changing so surely something must exist for their claim right?

 

Then again, this is the fandom that just calls NS fake, a joke, dismisses 631 despite parallelism being a part of kishis writing, and just plain say all NS moments are not moments. I mean if NS doesn't have development and sakura cannot change, then them even arguing with the current moment just defeats itself, if sakura doesnt change then that stuff in 675 matters in no way to either side. Otherwise yes, the answer is simple, her changed feelings are either decreased or increased, they cannot be reformed somehow to something more if no evidence exists for it, I mean to some they already called the whole concept of sakura liking sasuke and forgiving him, treating him the same as naruto, impossible. But the fact of Sakura changing is just, impossible as ever. Another argument with them thinking we only rely on parallels, oh boy. I can see there will be many debates not even worth taking part in when people still just say characters cannot change while others can. when that mistrust comes up again and causes some conflict, i am not going to be surprised....

[Gojira]

let's look at what happened in this arc so far how Kishi has treated the Big 3 pairings everything up to the war arc has been teases and hints for all 3 but Kishi seems to be coming to a close with the pairing wars I mean look:

He makes a mockery of NH
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/540/5
http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/662/14

He fatally wounds SS and then finally finishes it off
http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/635/17
http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/675/17

And officially makes NS endgame
http://www.mangapand...hapter-504.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/631/5

In addition to piling on NS teases and hints on top of that

Kishi's been acting pretty direct with his intentions towards the pairing wars in this arc then he has for most of if not the entire series, which makes me think NS becoming canon is coming pretty soon.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Looks like you are feeling good, Pepsi. ^_^

[narusaku256]

I really don't see how when Naruto confirmed in 631 that he loves Sakura and after that Hinata kept putting herself in the friendzone .
 

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[Gojira]

Looks like you are feeling good, Pepsi. ^_^

yup feeling pretty good. I got a 3 day weekend and on top of that Kishi (most likely) killed off SS

[TouKen4Life3g]

yup feeling pretty good. I got a 3 day weekend and on top of that Kishi (most likely) killed off SS

Good for you. I'm just exhausted. 7 days straight of work. I want to rest. X_X

[TouKen4Life3g]

Going to sleep now. Here's a question, hoping for answers when I wake up.

 

Do you believe it was for the best to leave Naruto's aspect to Sakura a mystery at this current time?

[Gojira]

Going to sleep now. Here's a question, hoping for answers when I wake up.
 
Do you believe it was for the best to leave Naruto's aspect to Sakura a mystery at this current time?

What do you mean exactly?

[TouKen4Life3g]

What do you mean exactly?

Basically Kakashi commenting like this chapter. Not exact same as SS, but whatever it may be for NS.

[Gojira]

Basically Kakashi commenting like this chapter. Not exact same as SS, but whatever it may be for NS.

I'm sorry I still don't quite get it, are you talking about their interaction this chapter?

[James S Cassidy]

I'm sorry I still don't quite get it, are you talking about their interaction this chapter?

 

He is talking about is this
http://www.mangapand.../chapter-4.html

Sakura says what she dislikes is Naruto and that her dream is to love and be with Sasuke. However, Kakashi didn't bring up what Sakura dislikes and omitted that part entirely.

I think it was done on purpose. I mean, it would definitely be a huge +1 for NS if Kakashi said that all ehr feelings have change since then. It was left out on purpose to keep the pairing wars going.

[FireFox]

Going to sleep now. Here's a question, hoping for answers when I wake up.

 

Do you believe it was for the best to leave Naruto's aspect to Sakura a mystery at this current time?

Yep its left out on purpose i've said this thing several times by now if Kishi made Kakashi say how her feelings have changed for Naruto then it would have been game over and game set match NS   , because you have to remember Kakashi was a witness to Sakura's confession in the land of iron and his line "Sakura you" its the same thing as the Yamato and Sai's scene witch tells me her confession was true and the reason she went to kill Sasuke wasn't because she "loves him so much" but because it was her duty as a former teammate and a friend.   

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 09 May 2014 - 10:58 AM.

[Chatte]

Yep its left out on purpose i've said this thing several times by now if Kishi made Kakashi say how her feelings have changed for Naruto then it would have been game over and game set match NS   , because you have to remember Kakashi was a witness to Sakura's confession in the land of iron and his line "Sakura you" its the same thing as the Yamato and Sai's scene witch tells me her confession was true and the reason she went to kill Sasuke wasn't because she "loves him so much" but because it was her duty as a former teammate and a friend.   

Because she loves him so much as a nakama, that's why.

Love doesn't have to be romantic in nature, to be strong, you know? And what is strong about Sakura's love for Sasuke, is the duty side of it, because well... romanticism isn't there anymore...

[narusaku256]

Yep its left out on purpose i've said this thing several times by now if Kishi made Kakashi say how her feelings have changed for Naruto then it would have been game over and game set match NS   , because you have to remember Kakashi was a witness to Sakura's confession in the land of iron and his line "Sakura you" its the same thing as the Yamato and Sai's scene witch tells me her confession was true and the reason she went to kill Sasuke wasn't because she "loves him so much" but because it was her duty as a former teammate and a friend.   

Agree on this. Its good that its left out purposely. It will be sweet to see NS interactions without the background of 'They are getting together'. Kakashi's 'Sakura you...' was what put me into confusion too. I mean it was him basically saying, 'Sakura you really love Naruto...'. Her confession was half true and half fake. The part 'I don't care about Sasuke' was fake which basically clicked Naruto and he thought that whole thing was a lie. Whether she retained feelings for Sasuke then is what puzzles me. I try to analyze this part, but it doesn't seem to go anywhere. Maybe it is as you say but another way it can be interpreted is looking from the aspect of her lingering feelings. It was more or less clear that she wanted to kill Sasuke because he gave pain to everyone and to Naruto the most. So its not wrong to say that Sakura thought of killing Sasuke for Naruto's sake and was prepared to bear the burden of his(Naruto's) hatred on her if this the way she could make Naruto happy! But its still hard to believe that she did not have feelings for Sasuke then because when Sasuke tried to kill her, later her expressions and Karin's words spoke many things. I don't understand this part!

Edited by narusaku256, 09 May 2014 - 11:22 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
He is talking about is this
http://www.mangapand.../chapter-4.html

Sakura says what she dislikes is Naruto and that her dream is to love and be with Sasuke. However, Kakashi didn't bring up what Sakura dislikes and omitted that part entirely.

I think it was done on purpose. I mean, it would definitely be a huge +1 for NS if Kakashi said that all ehr feelings have change since then. It was left out on purpose to keep the pairing wars going.

Thank you. I couldn't word it properly, so I apologize for that.

That said I say it was for the best. If you have them solved, then it's completely solved. Not saying the developments will stop, but our quest for answers will be done. Keep in mind, many fans, including a band, are wondering how Naruto's relationship with Sakura will result to in the end. After all, they're already established best friends, so why do we keep going. Probably because we may see them grow into love. Those Disney magic.

Something that I realized. The idea of SS has hardly brought up in discussion board with those who are famous or associated with Naruto, such as voice actors. Now I don't know but one thing for sure is that you absolute must use part 1. We can get away with it, but heck, the end always goes to part 1 end.

Lastly, ever noticed that there's no foreshadow or strong hints to SS, let alone hinting that SS is dead. Now granted, we do get 540 and 635; however, it's more like it was concluded. Ever noticed that NS got hints that ends with a blank? SS don't get that. NS is meant to be a mystery and continuous storyline. If NS was concluded by a thought of a Sensei, it's pretty weak for something that's highly anticipated and honestly, you can't say it's not important. You can say it's probably in the low priority, but that doesn't dismiss it. Remember, this battle isn't the last yet we concluded one aspect. NS supposed to be a mystery of whether they can get together or not. Also, it usually happens at the end.

Bottom line, I'm happy that it was dismissed altogether for the future.

[FireFox]

Agree on this. Its good that its left out purposely. It will be sweet to see NS interactions without the background of 'They are getting together'. Kakashi's 'Sakura you...' was what put me into confusion too. I mean it was him basically saying, 'Sakura you really love Naruto...'. Her confession was half true and half fake. The part 'I don't care about Sasuke' was fake which basically clicked Naruto and he thought that whole thing was a lie. Whether she retained feelings for Sasuke then is what puzzles me. I try to analyze this part, but it doesn't seem to go anywhere. Maybe it is as you say but another way it can be interpreted is looking from the aspect of her lingering feelings. It was more or less clear that she wanted to kill Sasuke because he gave pain to everyone and to Naruto the most. So its not wrong to say that Sakura thought of killing Sasuke for Naruto's sake and was prepared to bear the burden of his(Naruto's) hatred on her if this the way she could make Naruto happy! But its still hard to believe that she did not have feelings for Sasuke then because when Sasuke tried to kill her, later her expressions and Karin's words spoke many things. I don't understand this part!

This is also true she did have lingering feelings for him at that time i suppose but as in "love love" i don't think so , either way yes i agree she did it for Naruto's sake because as she left she said "i'm sorry Naruto" with a painful expression because she knew that what she was about to do with Sasuke would hurt him but it was for his sake the most but also for Sasuke's sake . Also i think that Kakashi just confirmed that after the murder attempts SS was dead , i also find it funny how the anime made a scene when she was walking toward Sasuke's position they made her questioning "why did she even loved this guy in the first place" lol.

 

Thank you. I couldn't word it properly, so I apologize for that.

That said I say it was for the best. If you have them solved, then it's completely solved. Not saying the developments will stop, but our quest for answers will be done. Keep in mind, many fans, including a band, are wondering how Naruto's relationship with Sakura will result to in the end. After all, they're already established best friends, so why do we keep going. Probably because we may see them grow into love. Those Disney magic.

Something that I realized. The idea of SS has hardly brought up in discussion board with those who are famous or associated with Naruto, such as voice actors. Now I don't know but one thing for sure is that you absolute must use part 1. We can get away with it, but heck, the end always goes to part 1 end.

Lastly, ever noticed that there's no foreshadow or strong hints to SS, let alone hinting that SS is dead. Now granted, we do get 540 and 635; however, it's more like it was concluded. Ever noticed that NS got hints that ends with a blank? SS don't get that. NS is meant to be a mystery and continuous storyline. If NS was concluded by a thought of a Sensei, it's pretty weak for something that's highly anticipated and honestly, you can't say it's not important. You can say it's probably in the low priority, but that doesn't dismiss it. Remember, this battle isn't the last yet we concluded one aspect. NS supposed to be a mystery of whether they can get together or not. Also, it usually happens at the end.

Bottom line, I'm happy that it was dismissed altogether for the future.

 

I agree with this , but say do you think that all of the NS cut of scenes will be brought back or only those that they are important ? I say this because there is a lot of them .    

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 09 May 2014 - 11:56 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

Thank you. I couldn't word it properly, so I apologize for that.

 

I am now the official NaruSaku4life3g translator.

[narusaku256]

This is also true she did have lingering feelings for him at that time i suppose but as in "love love" i don't think so , either way yes i agree she did it for Naruto's sake because as she left she said "i'm sorry Naruto" with a painful expression because she knew that what she was about to do with Sasuke would hurt him but it was for his sake the most but also for Sasuke's sake . Also i think that Kakashi just confirmed that after the murder attempts SS was dead , i also find it funny how the anime made a scene when she was walking toward Sasuke's position they made her questioning "why did she even loved this guy in the first place" lol.     

Are you sure the painful expression was because she was about to kill Sasuke which Naruto won't like and not because she played a false confession on him? But the other way round, if 'I love you Naruto' is true then that rules out the later part I mentioned! I think, we should be patient for some more time since I feel that the way things will unfold, it will give answers to all our questions.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Not sure. They are meant for something that we put the clues for ourselves. They're meant like a kiss scene almost happening, only for one person to disrupt.