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#18161 Chatte

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:18 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Apr 27 2013, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
take/remove it's a kind of distortion, i belive it has nothing to do with Rinnegan, Sakura also has no kekkei genkai, if she comes up with a powerup it will be sage mode which can only be inherited by training, and she's most suitable for Sage mode because of her chakra control.

I now she has no kekke genkai, trust me, I mean I've analyzed Sakura enough by now and I know what she has or doesn't or what she can attain in logical terms.
What I am trying to say is that there is a connection, I am trying to see what those things have in common, that's all. I am not saying it has to be a foreshadowing for an upgrade or something.
Meh, anyway, better leave it aside anyways.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Apr 27 2013, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well in the omake with Sakura talking about Hinata's ending credits, Naruto does say that the staff just let the stuff with Hinata get out of hand so its like they are mocking that. I mean the simple quote of Kishi from 2010 saying Hinata would make a better heroine at the time was attributed into this one too.

But they never mention how after this statement Kishi continued stating how Sakura does display the potential and can fulfill it and that he would try to have her fulfill it. This is both after the pain and reunion of team 7 events. Yet given the overblown proportion of Hinata and even a few insane fans trying to censor stuff or jump to conclusions just always leave this stuff out because if its Sakura and Naruto relation related, they just try to white it out.

I mean they act like this despite Kishi confirming the love triangle for team 7 is still on. We even have more reason stating Naruto still loves Sakura despite the fact that the manga has not given a clear answer yet we still get a filler (ep235) showing him currently in love with her after the fake confession (it does not count but hey its the only notion) even then we have many story and logical based reasons for him still being in love with Sakura and just how NH cannot happen without damaging the story.

For the record, he said it could be easier to do heroine with Hinata but she's not the heroine as Sakura got different task in mind. He had to defend Sakura because he got frustrated with people telling him about Hinata, hence "People would say 'Hinata, Hinata'. I say she's not Hinata." Honestly, it would have been a boring one if she was a heroine. While I understand want more fights with her, her mental developments are done well and still in progress. I don't think Kishi knew that people wants more than that, which is why he thought he was doing good enough but now, he is going to do more to her. Plus, in many interviews, they ask about her and he will answer them. We hardly hear anything about Hinata from him unless it's about design such as RtN and that's it. Really, she's a minor character and Kishi did promise a Sakura's development or year, so yeah, there you have it.

Now I think about it, I think the studio went all out because honestly, before that moment, there's little to no Hinata, not even the Three-tailed beast filler arc. So you can say they waited this long to do this.

Now then, time to read Chatte's post. happy.gif

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 27 April 2013 - 10:24 PM.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 27 2013, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now then, time to read Chatte's post. happy.gif

Meeh, just crazy stuff but...

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This was based out of Naruto's Rinnegan design and that middle symbol. Hmmm, what is it about it? I wanna know moooore.
Anyway, I must end it here, in the end, this is the NaruSaku debate thread. happy.gif

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:39 PM

but the general discussion thread died, so where else are we suppose to go?

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Apr 27 2013, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
but the general discussion thread died, so where else are we suppose to go?

Well, if you guys wanna discuss further on this... Dunno. Maybe we will find some NaruSaku reference in there, lol. biggrin.gif

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:44 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Apr 27 2013, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
but the general discussion thread died, so where else are we suppose to go?

Discuss how Iron Man 3 is a bad movie.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:55 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 28 2013, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meeh, just crazy stuff but...

http://www.ufunk.net...-05-610x432.jpg

This was based out of Naruto's Rinnegan design and that middle symbol. Hmmm, what is it about it? I wanna know moooore.
Anyway, I must end it here, in the end, this is the NaruSaku debate thread. happy.gif

Yeah you should take it on Strider's discussion thread. I really want it to get pinned, so it doesn't die. This is after all a pairing thread.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Apr 27 2013, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
but the general discussion thread died, so where else are we suppose to go?


The potentiality of Ino or Hinata becoming involved with Sasuke and what impact that would have on their respective characters?

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:01 PM

That was a fun read. I like where you going, Chatte. Still, perhaps upcoming chapters can give us a better vision on the manga. Time will tell.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 27 April 2013 - 11:08 PM.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:02 PM

QUOTE (Atheck @ Apr 28 2013, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The potentiality of Ino or Hinata becoming involved with Sasuke and what impact that would have on their respective characters?

--ok I get Ino, but why Hinata. They've never spoken to eachother, have they ? They have no connection.

I'm really curious to see Ino's reaction on Sasuke's arrival. And the reactions on the Kages in general. <-- also the reason as to why I want to stick to the main battle, and that I kinda fear for Kakashi's life. D: But Kishi may switch to Kakashi's fight now, and go back to the main battle when the kages arrives, because time has passed. He's not the type to use the "meanwhile" card.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:04 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 28 2013, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That was a fun read. I like where you going, Chatte. Still, perhaps up ominv chapters can give us a better vision on the manga. Time will tell.

Thanks. Hmm, I am gonna store this up and check more on it.l I still have to work on that Heaven and Earth theory anyway ^^
By the way I was thinking, how do you guys see NS will be brought-up in the context of Obito and Kakashi's fight?
I was thinking Kakashi might try to talk-no-jutsu Obito via Naruto and give example his situation with Rin and Naruto's situation with Sakura and Kakshi making a comment on how Sakura really got to love Naruto and that if things would've been different maybe it would have succeded with him and Rin too...
Dunno, just a thought going through my mind. smile.gif

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:05 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Apr 27 2013, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
--ok I get Ino, but why Hinata. They've never spoken to eachother, have they ? They have no connection.


It's just a hypothetical since alot of people seem to enjoy the prospect that the crack pairing provides.




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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:08 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Apr 27 2013, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
--ok I get Ino, but why Hinata. They've never spoken to eachother, have they ? They have no connection.

I'm really curious to see Ino's reaction on Sasuke's arrival. And the reactions on the Kages in general. <-- also the reason as to why I want to stick to the main battle, and that I kinda fear for Kakashi's life. D: But Kishi may switch to Kakashi's fight now, and go back to the main battle when the kages arrives, because time has passed. He's not the type to use the "meanwhile" card.

Exactly. I don't even know which one I want to focus. Part of me wants to focus on Kakashi, but then it'll kill Naruto's time, which is on the last phase of the battle and Naruto is reaching his limit let alone that Juubi is unleashed with no holds barred. Lol wrestling. Anyway, that's why I'm asking you guys and see what do you think.

Btw, it's interesting to note Sakura may finally witness Naruto at his peak since Gaara'a fight. Anyone just thought of that? When I say that, I mean Naruto will go to sleep after he's done. Keep it up and Sakura will know his exceeded potential.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:18 PM

I think I can ask a question all of us want to know,

How the hell is the alliance going to handle the ten tails? Obito can be killed, Madara can be sealed as an edo, but what about the ten tails? How are they going to beat this thing? Its possible for Obito to be killed, Madara can be taken down by a lot of combined efforts along with Hashirama and Tobirama. But they have this giant primal demon mass of chaos to handle. Ironically only obito and madara can control it so how do they stop this thing? Even a kurama with a 50% power boost cannot match it.

Only thing I can think of is he names of the tailed beasts somehow fighting the thing from the inside if their own individual identities have not been overtaken by the merging to form the ten tails spirit. This is a curious question I mean how do they take this thing down when even the other tailed beasts are already said to be immortal and just revive?

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:21 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Apr 27 2013, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I can ask a question all of us want to know,

How the hell is the alliance going to handle the ten tails? Obito can be killed, Madara can be sealed as an edo, but what about the ten tails? How are they going to beat this thing? Its possible for Obito to be killed, Madara can be taken down by a lot of combined efforts along with Hashirama and Tobirama. But they have this giant primal demon mass of chaos to handle. Ironically only obito and madara can control it so how do they stop this thing? Even a kurama with a 50% power boost cannot match it.

Only thing I can think of is he names of the tailed beasts somehow fighting the thing from the inside if their own individual identities have not been overtaken by the merging to form the ten tails spirit. This is a curious question I mean how do they take this thing down when even the other tailed beasts are already said to be immortal and just revive?


I was wondering this as well, can it be sealed into someone to make them a jinchuuriki? Minato is back and we have Hashirama there as well so is sealing an option? If it is who could potentially be the jinchuuriki for the ten tails, would it be possible for Sasuke as an act of redemption, or maybe Obito after he gets tnj'd? Just some questions I have as well.

Edited by zatheko, 27 April 2013 - 11:21 PM.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:21 PM

QUOTE (Atheck @ Apr 27 2013, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's just a hypothetical since alot of people seem to enjoy the prospect that the crack pairing provides.

The crack pairing SasuHina is not meant to be taken too seriously at all. As a fan of it myself, I can easily say that I support it mostly because of how good they look together. Since they have never spoken before, maybe when they do, Sasuke would fall in love with her. Maybe Sasuke likes the quiet girls, and that's why he never liked all those girls being on him and yelling "Sasuke-kun! I want all your babies!". Of course only a good version of Sasuke could fall in love. I see Naruto helping Sasuke get with her. It would be so funny to see Sasuke asking Naruto to help him confess to her. biggrin.gif And do you honestly think Hinata would reject Sasuke if she couldn't use the "there is someone else" excuse? a_dance.gif

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:22 PM

^I want the Juubi to talk to the alliance. Or rather...Naruto. Become friends with Naruto and then it gets sealed inside of him. That's the only solution, you can not get rid of the Juubi. Even the Sage had to become its host. The only backside is that all the bonding with Kurama would be for nothing, but they might get merged..they're after all kind of the same being.

I don't think the Juubi is evil. The Juubi is supposed to be the God, the creator of the Naruto world. The tailed beasts can talk, the Juubi must too. He'll probably see the --- connection Naruto and the Sage had and accept him. Then again I have no idea how he's gonna reach the final state without absorbing Naruto and Bee's full power.

Edited by sushi., 27 April 2013 - 11:23 PM.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:22 PM

By teh way, funny hint Kishi gave us here



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Sasuke-kun, Naruto-kun, anyone wink.gif

and then this



Naruto, Sakura-chan anyone? wink.gif

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:25 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 28 2013, 02:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks. Hmm, I am gonna store this up and check more on it.l I still have to work on that Heaven and Earth theory anyway ^^
By the way I was thinking, how do you guys see NS will be brought-up in the context of Obito and Kakashi's fight?
I was thinking Kakashi might try to talk-no-jutsu Obito via Naruto and give example his situation with Rin and Naruto's situation with Sakura and Kakshi making a comment on how Sakura really got to love Naruto and that if things would've been different maybe it would have succeded with him and Rin too...
Dunno, just a thought going through my mind. smile.gif



I'm thinking of that too. Now I don't think Kakashi would just give Obito a chance to break Naruto's spirit. Basically Obito felt what Naruto would have felt after failing to save Sakura from Sasuke. Now the role of Sasuke is Kakashi and I don't see TNJ working on Obito. The only thing Kakashi can manage to accomplish is try and separate Obito from Naruto because he suspects Obito's intention of making Naruto give up. But if Kakashi doesn't succed in defeating Obito in the other dimension his only accomplishment would be to enrage Obito even more. Maybe Minato or Hiruzen had something to do with what happened to Rin?

Now Kakashi should be the only one in the Narutoverse that should know of the ObiRin - NS parallel and could try later on probably after they defeat the kyuubi to talk to either Naruto or Sakura about it.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:31 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Apr 28 2013, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I can ask a question all of us want to know,

How the hell is the alliance going to handle the ten tails? Obito can be killed, Madara can be sealed as an edo, but what about the ten tails? How are they going to beat this thing? Its possible for Obito to be killed, Madara can be taken down by a lot of combined efforts along with Hashirama and Tobirama. But they have this giant primal demon mass of chaos to handle. Ironically only obito and madara can control it so how do they stop this thing? Even a kurama with a 50% power boost cannot match it.

Only thing I can think of is he names of the tailed beasts somehow fighting the thing from the inside if their own individual identities have not been overtaken by the merging to form the ten tails spirit. This is a curious question I mean how do they take this thing down when even the other tailed beasts are already said to be immortal and just revive?


Hmm many have said that Hashirama was brought back to fight Madara , but he is also known to have been the only shinobi to be able to control tailed beasts . We also know that the only reason that Madara and Obito are able to control it in the first place is also because they have Hashis's cells . So Hashirama saves the day and defeats both Madara and the ten tails .

Another thing that came to mind ... I wonder if Hashirama ,being the original and all , can control his cells that are implanted on Madara on Obito ... could he maybe even control Zetsu ?


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