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#18121 narulsaku

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:17 PM

@narusaku4life3g-i know i asked for joing the fun. so to your question yeha as a ns fan i would love to see that but that ll be not right i dont know why but i kinda feel wired with it. and @ manga reader- why not why minato cant give the other half chakra of kurama it ll make naruto more powerful and his chance of defeating madara would be higher.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (MangaReader @ Apr 27 2013, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seems a bit forced in my opinion, not to mention I don't see why Minato would give him Kurama's other chakra. The gift could possible be his thunder-god technique, though that could be way too OP as Naruto's already ungodly fast when using Kurama's chakra.

As I think about it I wonder if Kurama's other chakra half really is inside of Minato.

If I recall correctly in 618 Orochimaru got his arms' souls back from the Shinigami before he was able to summon the Hokages. That means that his arms' souls were completely separated from Hiruzen's soul.

By that logic Minato's soul isn't fused either with Kurama's chakra. Whether Kurama's chakra got out or is still inside the Shinigami is up for speculation, but it acutally doesn't make sense that it's inside of Minato. Then again Kishi could make it so any way just for the hell of it. tongue.gif

But if Minato's present maybe isn't the chakra then what could it be? I think Rikudo said that maybe Minato was referring to himself as the present, but that he wasn't too sure.

I would love if the present was actually Edo-Kushina, and then Naruto could have a complete family reunion. Minato would probably figure that Kushina would re-kill him once they meet in the afterlife for being able to see their son while she stayed there, so he'd rather bring her along as well. laugh.gif

Of course unless they randomly find themselves a Zetsu I'm not sure if it would be possible. Oh well.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:38 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Apr 27 2013, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As I think about it I wonder if Kurama's other chakra half really is inside of Minato.

If I recall correctly in 618 Orochimaru got his arms' souls back from the Shinigami before he was able to summon the Hokages. That means that his arms' souls were completely separated from Hiruzen's soul.

By that logic Minato's soul isn't fused either with Kurama's chakra. Whether Kurama's chakra got out or is still inside the Shinigami is up for speculation, but it acutally doesn't make sense that it's inside of Minato. Then again Kishi could make it so any way just for the hell of it. tongue.gif

But if Minato's present maybe isn't the chakra then what could it be? I think Rikudo said that maybe Minato was referring to himself as the present, but that he wasn't too sure.

I would love if the present was actually Edo-Kushina, and then Naruto could have a complete family reunion. Minato would probably figure that Kushina would re-kill him once they meet in the afterlife for being able to see their son while she stayed there, so he'd rather bring her along as well. laugh.gif

Of course unless they randomly find themselves a Zetsu I'm not sure if it would be possible. Oh well.

Guess will just have to wait and find out happy.gif

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:42 PM

I like what I see. At least we are being thoughtful. But let's just say it did happen the way I described it. What would be your reaction?

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:54 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 27 2013, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like what I see. At least we are being thoughtful. But let's just say it did happen the way I described it. What would be your reaction?


What was your theory, that Sakura would have to spend the rest of her life keeping Naruto in check or sakura would take the other half of the kyubbi chakra????

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 27 2013, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What was your theory, that Sakura would have to spend the rest of her life keeping Naruto in check or sakura would take the other half of the kyubbi chakra????

Not really my theory but a fun one. Can it happen? Who knows.

Let's just say hypothetically, if Naruto and Sakura did take out Juubi together, with maybe after one powerup for Naruto, courtesy by Minato, would could give the other half or something, and Sakura is like glue to Naruto to keep healing 24/7, how would you honestly feel? From general fan and NS fan pov? I know it's unlikely, but let's just have with it.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:19 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 27 2013, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not really my theory but a fun one. Can it happen? Who knows.

Let's just say hypothetically, if Naruto and Sakura did take out Juubi together, with maybe after one powerup for Naruto, courtesy by Minato, would could give the other half or something, and Sakura is like glue to Naruto to keep healing 24/7, how would you honestly feel? From general fan and NS fan pov? I know it's unlikely, but let's just have with it.


Well i would love it sakura got the other half of the chakra what would seal NS biggrin.gif

But Sakura having to >>>>>>24/7????!!!!<<<<<< wot.gif heal naruto makes it sound like he would lead a miserable life (kind of like a patient in a vegatative state)

Note: I hope i haven't offended anyone with my last sentence..... treading on thin ice with that sweatdrop.gif

Hopefully you got my point

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:44 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 27 2013, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not really my theory but a fun one. Can it happen? Who knows.

Let's just say hypothetically, if Naruto and Sakura did take out Juubi together, with maybe after one powerup for Naruto, courtesy by Minato, would could give the other half or something, and Sakura is like glue to Naruto to keep healing 24/7, how would you honestly feel? From general fan and NS fan pov? I know it's unlikely, but let's just have with it.

Hmm if it did happen... I guess I wouldn't mind it, but again, it would feel a little forced.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:49 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 27 2013, 07:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let's just say hypothetically, if Naruto and Sakura did take out Juubi together, with maybe after one powerup for Naruto, courtesy by Minato, would could give the other half or something, and Sakura is like glue to Naruto to keep healing 24/7, how would you honestly feel? From general fan and NS fan pov? I know it's unlikely, but let's just have with it.

I would feel that it's very, very much like the story I'm writing. wink.gif




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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:49 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 27 2013, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well i would love it sakura got the other half of the chakra what would seal NS biggrin.gif

But Sakura having to >>>>>>24/7????!!!!<<<<<< wot.gif heal naruto makes it sound like he would lead a miserable life (kind of like a patient in a vegatative state)

Note: I hope i haven't offended anyone with my last sentence..... treading on thin ice with that sweatdrop.gif

Hopefully you got my point

Lol don't take it too literally. Basically I'm saying she got his back until the battle is won, hence like glue. Ok, remember that chapter where they all split into two teams and medics were like on their back and all. Well, if Naruto can maintain the force (here it comes), then Sakura won't leave his side. Get it? Lol 24/7. Everyone needs a break from anything.

QUOTE (MangaReader @ Apr 27 2013, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm if it did happen... I guess I wouldn't mind it, but again, it would feel a little forced.

Good to know.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 27 April 2013 - 05:50 PM.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:51 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 27 2013, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lol don't take it too literally. Basically I'm saying she got his back until the battle is won, hence like glue. Ok, remember that chapter where they all split into two teams and medics were like on their back and all. Well, if Naruto can maintain the force (here it comes), then Sakura won't leave his side. Get it? Lol 24/7. Everyone needs a break from anything.


Good to know.


Ummm.... well i thought you meant she would have to constanly heal him forever.... NOW IM CONFUSED arg.gif arg.gif arg.gif

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:57 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 27 2013, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ummm.... well i thought you meant she would have to constanly heal him forever.... NOW IM CONFUSED arg.gif arg.gif arg.gif

Ok. Don't worry, I made it confusing. Let's see:

Minato saved both Naruto and Sakura since Sakura tried to heal him before Juubi kills him. Minato gives him something (insert anything). Naruto is all fired up and Kuruma is ready to take it out. Sakura suggested that she will be on his side so he can always feel fresh after doing a jutsu or two. If he gets damaged, he will get recovered thanks to Sakura. Think as auto-regen.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:06 PM

QUOTE (KnS @ Apr 27 2013, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would feel that it's very, very much like the story I'm writing. wink.gif


O_O; Explain...

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 27 2013, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok. Don't worry, I made it confusing. Let's see:

Minato saved both Naruto and Sakura since Sakura tried to heal him before Juubi kills him. Minato gives him something (insert anything). Naruto is all fired up and Kuruma is ready to take it out. Sakura suggested that she will be on his side so he can always feel fresh after doing a jutsu or two. If he gets damaged, he will get recovered thanks to Sakura. Think as auto-regen.


Ahhh, i see like a mobile Hospital (Infinite healing)

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:16 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 27 2013, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ahhh, i see like a mobile Hospital (Infinite healing)

Yeah, that's one way to put it.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:24 PM

A good thought just popped into my head.

From episode 235 of shippuden, though its a filler, Naruto mentions how he is still in love with Sakura, why he fell for her, and how he wishes she would choose him but all that matters is her happiness and he does not have the ability to confess to her yet (the promise and Sasuke not being back).

Now this gave me a good question: Someone once said that when the anime team makes the fillers, they need to do so long as it does not conflict with the canon material. The only conflict between Manga and Anime is when Naruto first met Utakata, he knows him in the anime but the manga he meets for the first time with the others like Yagura and so on.

We know why Naruto was able to explain his love in this filler, it was just a situation and he could confess to a filler character. But the fact that the anime team did this, does this mean that if they had done otherwise, such if Naruto referred to his love in the past tense, could that have been taken as a conflict with canon? No clear answer has come from the manga and this is not trying to make a filler into proof (cause it does not count) but isn't this a rule the anime team must work by? No conflicts to canon material? So if they had put Naruto as used to loving Sakura, would that have been an issue?

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:25 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Apr 27 2013, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As I think about it I wonder if Kurama's other chakra half really is inside of Minato.

If I recall correctly in 618 Orochimaru got his arms' souls back from the Shinigami before he was able to summon the Hokages. That means that his arms' souls were completely separated from Hiruzen's soul.

By that logic Minato's soul isn't fused either with Kurama's chakra. Whether Kurama's chakra got out or is still inside the Shinigami is up for speculation, but it acutally doesn't make sense that it's inside of Minato. Then again Kishi could make it so any way just for the hell of it. tongue.gif

The whole "gift from Minato" thing got me thinking too. To me, it probably just means that Naruto will get too see his father again, not get any power-up. Either way, why would he need the other half of Kurama's chakra? headscratch.gif Naruto's already insanely strong (Top 3 IMO), and it's not like having all the Kyūbi's chakra will let him beat the Jūbi. The Ten Tails should always be stronger than the Nine Tails. Making it so that a fully powered Kyūbi better than the Jūbi is pretty illogical. I guess Kishi could use the excuse that the Jūbi doesn't have all of the Nine Tails/Eight Tails chakra, but that just seems lazy. But I wouldn't be surprised if this happens. dry.gif

And I think the sealing of Kurama was different than the sealing of Orochimaru's arms because his arms' souls were actually sealed, instead of just his chakra. So since Kurama didn't lose his soul, just his chakra, perhaps Minato has the other half inside him.

@StriderC I think KnS is referring to his story Wilderness. I could be wrong though. happy.gif http://www.fanfictio...06/1/Wilderness

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 27 2013, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, that's one way to put it.

So Sakura would be the equivalent of the infinite health cheat codes. laugh.gif

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:38 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Apr 27 2013, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A good thought just popped into my head.

From episode 235 of shippuden, though its a filler, Naruto mentions how he is still in love with Sakura, why he fell for her, and how he wishes she would choose him but all that matters is her happiness and he does not have the ability to confess to her yet (the promise and Sasuke not being back).

Now this gave me a good question: Someone once said that when the anime team makes the fillers, they need to do so long as it does not conflict with the canon material. The only conflict between Manga and Anime is when Naruto first met Utakata, he knows him in the anime but the manga he meets for the first time with the others like Yagura and so on.

We know why Naruto was able to explain his love in this filler, it was just a situation and he could confess to a filler character. But the fact that the anime team did this, does this mean that if they had done otherwise, such if Naruto referred to his love in the past tense, could that have been taken as a conflict with canon? No clear answer has come from the manga and this is not trying to make a filler into proof (cause it does not count) but isn't this a rule the anime team must work by? No conflicts to canon material? So if they had put Naruto as used to loving Sakura, would that have been an issue?

Any thoughts?

Well, the anime team did say that Sakura used to love Sasuke as well as SJ magazine, but I don't know. It's hard to say for now because of the situation we're in. If Sasuke come and somehow Sakura says outloud that she's no longer in love, well then, I should take anime into consideration then. That said it does sound like the anime knows the situation of the manga, but maybe they don't. Still, they do know what's up and they do know what's considered important, which as of late parallels is a legit thought into consideration. They are truly sold on NS, that I do wonder why. Could it be that they know it like how Fairy Tail anime knows it, even though it's easy to tell? I don't know.

I'll be honest, even if anime does go all anti-NS, I'll still think the same thing as above. I'm no hypocrite on this stuff. But what's funny is that the anime studio got interviewed about their work and they say that they are doing their best to keep it consistent to the manga and so far they claimed that nothing hasn't gone wrong yet. So what does that mean? I have no clue. I will say this: every media I see, it points to NS. So are we missing something or are we just getting lucky with nice fanservices? I don't know. The best answer is really I don't know. Can it change? Yes. By the end of manga/anime.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Apr 27 2013, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
O_O; Explain...

Answer behind a cut, to spare those not interested in fan fiction...

In my fic Wilderness, I veered away from the manga at #568 and created a scenario where Naruto becomes jinchuriki of eight of the nine Tailed Beasts. (The only one missing is Shukaku.) After the other seven are sealed in him, he has to fight each one like he did Kurama and take its chakra. He doesn't have his mother's help this time, and he can't use Kurama's chakra to help either because of the rivalry between the separate biju.

Naruto is hidden away somewhere remote and unreachable while he undertakes this difficult and physically taxing mission, and Sakura is ordered to go with him as a medic -- to ensure he doesn't kill himself in the process. They are alone 24/7 with no idea how much time is passing, and she has to heal him constantly -- sometimes literally hands-on when he's fighting.

Of course, the main point of the plot is that Naruto and Sakura are alone, 24x7, working together in a physical way, with no one to interfere.... cool.gif







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