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[Shadow1275]

I think the fact that there's no real romance implication from the second player, as in the person who's being questioned to love the first, harms the whole romance in general. NS got that cover. In NH, as I said before, in 615, Naruto is the second player because he's being questioned by fans if he is getting feelings for Hinata. Sadly, there is no indication. It goes the same with Sasuke. Now you said that there's little for NS. Here's the thing: they're coming from Sakura, the second player in NS.

Naruto is first player because we know he loves her, so anything he does something about love is no surprising. However, when the other player does it, it is because she's being in position of "what do you see in first player, Naruto?" Take the feeding scene for example. Noticed that it started off as a serious moment, no comedy whatsoever. When Sakura was going to feed him, Naruto looks very genuine and there's no comedy face like hearts or anything because this moment was true romance implication. It became comedy when Sai messed up and noticed it happened in the next page, meaning a fan would get so hype to turn the page, only to face palm and say, "So close!" That's the beauty of manga, hype before next page is turned.

I can go on, but hopefully you understand what I mean.

That's the most important thing too. Both NH and SS are one-sided, however we have moments where both sides react in more then just friendly ways. Sometimes it's just one side like when Sakura first see's Naruto after the time-skip, or when Naruto admires her healing. But there are mutual moments between them like when she tries to feed him and when she heals his arm and he says that it makes him happy.

Edited by Shadow1275, 27 April 2013 - 12:57 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's the most important thing too. Both NH and SS are one-sided, however we have moments where both sides react in more then just friendly ways. Sometimes it's just one side like when Sakura first see's Naruto after the time-skip, or when Naruto admires her healing. But there are mutual moments between them like when she tries to feed him and when she heals his arm and he says that it makes him happy.

Exactly. It's the reason why I said the others are one-sided because we never really get the same intention from the other player. Naruto is a nice guy, and even so, there's still no love indication with Hinata. I must note that even when you get one side by Sakura in NS, the fact is that she's not the first player, who is in love with second to start, she's second, meaning we would like to know what's her status with the first. In other words, Sakura one side moment is still shocking and more value than something from the first. Don't need to agree with me, but this is how I feel.

[Inferno180]

I think the fact that there's no real romance implication from the second player, as in the person who's being questioned to love the first, harms the whole romance in general. NS got that cover. In NH, as I said before, in 615, Naruto is the second player because he's being questioned by fans if he is getting feelings for Hinata. Sadly, there is no indication. It goes the same with Sasuke. Now you said that there's little for NS. Here's the thing: they're coming from Sakura, the second player in NS.

Naruto is first player because we know he loves her, so anything he does something about love is no surprising. However, when the other player does it, it is because she's being in position of "what do you see in first player, Naruto?" Take the feeding scene for example. Noticed that it started off as a serious moment, no comedy whatsoever. When Sakura was going to feed him, Naruto looks very genuine and there's no comedy face like hearts or anything because this moment was true romance implication. It became comedy when Sai messed up and noticed it happened in the next page, meaning a fan would get so hype to turn the page, only to face palm and say, "So close!" That's the beauty of manga, hype before next page is turned.

I can go on, but hopefully you understand what I mean.

Well ever since part 2 started, there have been close moments between Naruto and Sakura, just out of the majority of them they always ended too soon but for the sake of comedy.

Take note:
-Reunion, Sakura asks if she looks more mature, Naruto responds you have not changed- he messes it up
-Sakura admiring his maturity but they he wants to reveal his new sexy jutsu- he again messes it up
-Sakura crying and happy Naruto is alive after the 4 tails event, Naruto overreacts again messing it up
-Sakura is recovering a bit and Naruto mentions how amazing she is but it ends as soon as he mentions monster strength
-Naruto is struggling to eat but Sakura offers to feed him but Sai interrupts
-Sakura was about to talk to Naruto right after Sasuke left but before she could say anything the posion kicked in and knocked Naruto out- a misfortune.

When a lot of closeness begins to come, something cuts it off. The only one which went off entirely was the hug to which it was mutual on both sides, Naruto was surprised Sakura did that (something he thought would never happen) and Sakura was truly thankful to him for saving the village, she still hit him cause he was acting reckless to do it all on his own but she was truly happen for him saving them. She hugged him out of thanks, not jealousy from Hinata as many anti-fans say.

Still many many moments of closeness despite their other feelings. NS is different because of both of them doing so much for each other despite a struggle on both their parts. Naruto tries to fulfill Sakura's happiness despite knowing it could ruin his chances and does not take advantage of the face Sasuke is gone. Sakura tries to do things better for Naruto and tries to help him and understand his pains despite still loving Sasuke. The key player in this though is the larger interaction and such.

For NaruSaku the feedback interaction between Naruto and Sakura is heavy, its the most occurring.
For NaruHina the feedback interaction is still there between Naruto and Hinata but its still limited and rare from Naruto to Hinata. Its still mostly Hinata to Naruto.
For SasuSaku the feedback hardly existed, the good interaction ended with Sasuke leaving the village. It literally was always one way from Sakura to Sasuke never back. The only recent interaction was kill attempts from both sides. With both Sakura and Sasuke having attempted to take the others life, it should not come canon even with Sasuke being redeemed, I mean if this whole attempts on each others life thing manages to pull bs and get SS as canon, it would simply have been "a rough moment in their relationship" Seriously? This is what SS would be pulling if it became canon and managed to destroy both Sakura and Sasuke's characters.

The main point is, NaruSaku has the interaction that has taken them on the journey and brought them through some of the best and worst. As I said before, NaruSaku is more about the journey, something that was only a hope for Naruto and unpredicted for Sakura but it happened along the way. NH and SS at this point are just destinations, if they come its just due not going to be good because they don't have that development like NaruSaku. NaruSaku is along the journey and just will occur at some point, it can, the path of the story allows it, it is one element of a good ending for the story, good ending development for Sakura and some important parts on Naruto. It does no damage and fits, kishi just needs to make it happen.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well ever since part 2 started, there have been close moments between Naruto and Sakura, just out of the majority of them they always ended too soon but for the sake of comedy.

Take note:
-Reunion, Sakura asks if she looks more mature, Naruto responds you have not changed- he messes it up
-Sakura admiring his maturity but they he wants to reveal his new sexy jutsu- he again messes it up
-Sakura crying and happy Naruto is alive after the 4 tails event, Naruto overreacts again messing it up
-Sakura is recovering a bit and Naruto mentions how amazing she is but it ends as soon as he mentions monster strength
-Naruto is struggling to eat but Sakura offers to feed him but Sai interrupts
-Sakura was about to talk to Naruto right after Sasuke left but before she could say anything the posion kicked in and knocked Naruto out- a misfortune.

When a lot of closeness begins to come, something cuts it off. The only one which went off entirely was the hug to which it was mutual on both sides, Naruto was surprised Sakura did that (something he thought would never happen) and Sakura was truly thankful to him for saving the village, she still hit him cause he was acting reckless to do it all on his own but she was truly happen for him saving them. She hugged him out of thanks, not jealousy from Hinata as many anti-fans say.

Still many many moments of closeness despite their other feelings. NS is different because of both of them doing so much for each other despite a struggle on both their parts. Naruto tries to fulfill Sakura's happiness despite knowing it could ruin his chances and does not take advantage of the face Sasuke is gone. Sakura tries to do things better for Naruto and tries to help him and understand his pains despite still loving Sasuke. The key player in this though is the larger interaction and such.

For NaruSaku the feedback interaction between Naruto and Sakura is heavy, its the most occurring.
For NaruHina the feedback interaction is still there between Naruto and Hinata but its still limited and rare from Naruto to Hinata. Its still mostly Hinata to Naruto.
For SasuSaku the feedback hardly existed, the good interaction ended with Sasuke leaving the village. It literally was always one way from Sakura to Sasuke never back. The only recent interaction was kill attempts from both sides. With both Sakura and Sasuke having attempted to take the others life, it should not come canon even with Sasuke being redeemed, I mean if this whole attempts on each others life thing manages to pull bs and get SS as canon, it would simply have been "a rough moment in their relationship" Seriously? This is what SS would be pulling if it became canon and managed to destroy both Sakura and Sasuke's characters.

The main point is, NaruSaku has the interaction that has taken them on the journey and brought them through some of the best and worst. As I said before, NaruSaku is more about the journey, something that was only a hope for Naruto and unpredicted for Sakura but it happened along the way. NH and SS at this point are just destinations, if they come its just due not going to be good because they don't have that development like NaruSaku. NaruSaku is along the journey and just will occur at some point, it can, the path of the story allows it, it is one element of a good ending for the story, good ending development for Sakura and some important parts on Naruto. It does no damage and fits, kishi just needs to make it happen.

I agree. When it gets interrupted, it's always like "too soon, people". Romance should happen in the end. When it happens in the middle, depending on the story structure, it just gets interrupted or put a halt to it. Actually, it's possible that the confession was their moment of halt because really, they're already too close to seal it. You know how one couple was this close to seal it with a kiss, a proposal, or anything to confirm it, there's always one thing in the way. I think Sasuke is the one. Not that Sasuke wants to get in the way, but it's the task of bringing him back to light that's holding back. This happens a lot in media. If not the confession, then there may be one more before the last confirmation that almost hit home run. We'll just see.

[StriderC]

inb4 strider wants to put that in dialogue corner


you made some good points I should add, it's the execution that im worried about. I just hope the translation doesn't make the entire conversation feel stupid. Sakura's feelings just seem so hard to resolve in a satisfying manner each time I think about it. I guess it's because I want it done perfectly. I wonder if this is how Kishi feels.

I think you meant StriKer. LOL

[redragon88]

I think you meant StriKer. LOL

Oh but you're both the same person. You just haven't realized it yet. Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

[StriderC]

Oh but you're both the same person. You just haven't realized it yet. Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

LMAO That explains everythingggg!! O_O

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh but you're both the same person. You just haven't realized it yet. Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

Lol and here I thought I was sleepy. It's starting to make sense now.

[StriderC]

Now I wont complain about it out of pure spite.

You bolded what he said and didn't correct him?? You're make it too obvious for everyone to see! LOL

[StrikerTheNoble]

You bolded what he said and didn't correct him?? You're make it too obvious for everyone to see! LOL

dear god I just noticed it. I glanced over it so i didnt even notice the mistake.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Oh but you're both the same person. You just haven't realized it yet. Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

This made me remind of Alan Wake.

[redragon88]

You bolded what he said and didn't correct him?? You're make it too obvious for everyone to see! LOL

There is no escape. EMBRACE THE TRUTH!!!

dear god I just noticed it. I glanced over it so i didnt even notice the mistake.

There is no mistake, only reality. SUBMIT!!!

Edited by redragon88, 27 April 2013 - 02:11 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

This made me remind of Alan Wake.

I want my sequel dammit!

You know, I wonder what kind of budget would the anime use for Naruto's confession or anything NS closing? I remember one anime happened to have a somewhat high budget for one scene, which happened to be the end and it's a romance scene. It was similar to Chikara budget.

[StriderC]

dear god I just noticed it. I glanced over it so i didnt even notice the mistake.

LOL Uh huh! Sureeeee you did. I noticed it admittedly. I think all you saw was "dialogue corner", and what LOOKED to be your name.

Redragon

I just realized I've been calling you Red Dragon instead or re dragon... LOL

And I'll never embrace the truth. EVER! And besides YOU'RE NOT READY FOR THE TRUTH!!!

[redragon88]

LOL Uh huh! Sureeeee you did. I noticed it admittedly. I think all you saw was "dialogue corner", and what LOOKED to be your name.

Redragon

I just realized I've been calling you Red Dragon instead or re dragon... LOL

And I'll never embrace the truth. EVER! And besides YOU'RE NOT READY FOR THE TRUTH!!!

I AM THE TRUTH!!! YOU SHALL OBEY!

I wonder about my name. Did I just want to combine the d in Red and Dragon, or is it really just Re Dragon? Is my color red or am I just simply reborn. Is it one, is it both? I wonder if you shall ever know. It's all a mystery inside this Twilight Zone.

Edited by redragon88, 27 April 2013 - 02:24 PM.

[narulsaku]

I AM THE TRUTH!!! YOU SHALL OBEY!

I wonder about my name. Did I just want to combine the d in Red and Dragon, or is it really just Re Dragon? Is my color red or am I just simply reborn. Is it one, is it both? I wonder if you shall ever know. It's all a mystery inside this Twilight Zone.

okey whats with this freaking post?

[TouKen4Life3g]

okey whats with this freaking post?

Lol we're just having fun. But I think we should have a topic. Hm...oh I know.

Let's just say hypothetically, if Naruto and Sakura did take out Juubi together, with maybe after one powerup for Naruto, courtesy by Minato, would could give the other half or something, and Sakura is like glue to Naruto to keep healing 24/7, how would you honestly feel? From general fan and NS fan pov? I know it's unlikely, but let's just have with it.

[StrikerTheNoble]

Lol we're just having fun. But I think we should have a topic. Hm...oh I know.

Let's just say hypothetically, if Naruto and Sakura did take out Juubi together, with maybe after one powerup for Naruto, courtesy by Minato, would could give the other half or something, and Sakura is like glue to Naruto to keep healing 24/7, how would you honestly feel? From general fan and NS fan pov? I know it's unlikely, but let's just have with it.

Sakura glued to Naruto? I dont think hed mind

[TouKen4Life3g]

Sakura glued to Naruto? I dont think hed mind

Not literally. Lol. But you know how medic stays close to a person on their back? Well yeah, think like that.

Btw, off-topic, but I have gotten so many dialogues in mind. Going to exploit today!

[MangaReader]

Lol we're just having fun. But I think we should have a topic. Hm...oh I know.

Let's just say hypothetically, if Naruto and Sakura did take out Juubi together, with maybe after one powerup for Naruto, courtesy by Minato, would could give the other half or something, and Sakura is like glue to Naruto to keep healing 24/7, how would you honestly feel? From general fan and NS fan pov? I know it's unlikely, but let's just have with it.

Seems a bit forced in my opinion, not to mention I don't see why Minato would give him Kurama's other chakra. The gift could possible be his thunder-god technique, though that could be way too OP as Naruto's already ungodly fast when using Kurama's chakra.