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#18081 Kadardi

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 12:18 AM

Wasn't a double post after all woo! Thanks Dαrkrєrsŧ.

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We're at war, there's literally no time for Naruto and Sakura to interact, especially since they have two exact opposite needs to fill, Naruto is the offense while Sakura is the one taking care of the injured. They can't afford to lose a medic and Naruto's not gonna just protect her when every single one of his friends are on the battlefield risking their lives for him (including Sakura)


It probably would be more accurate to say that they don't have time to talk because they are fighting a monster who doesn't care at all about what they have to say and doesn't have anything to distract it.

Madara and Obito didn't do much other than stand there when the alliance showed possibly for 2 good reasons:

Madara: picks and chooses his battles. If he doesn't see anything worthy to fight then he won't bother. With the alliance being held down by the Ten Tails he most likely didn't interfere because he thought they were all going to die anyway so why bother with ugly little weak people.

Obito: Kakashi himself said that he was trying to verify something with Naruto. I think that means he's been holding back because he wants some questions answered(which explains why he let Hinata do her speech instead of killing her then and there and letting Naruto despair some more).

Now of course, Obito and Madara are distracted by Kakashi and Hashirama, and the Ten Tails doesn't look like someone who will stop attacking for a minute...

Btw so many good posts here.

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I dont think while her approach maybe wrong to you but Naruto needed a reality check and also Sakura wasnt trying to protect Naruto she was trying to do the "right thing" what made her to took that decision was the fact that Naruto loved her, she made the confession and she put all of her faith on it because if it fails she would had to do some unthinkable thing, then she comes with her last hour plan to kill Sasuke, since the confession failed the only thing she think she could do was to cut her bond with Naruto, because she thought she only bring burden to Naruto along with Sasuke, so she decided to kill Sasuke lifting his burden, she thought she was an horrible person and then she comes up with killing Sasuke and make Naruto hate her forever since redeeming Sasuke is Naruto's most prized objective.

Also i disagree that she thinks Naruto is a little kid, she just doesnt want to hurt him it's different, she knows all the bad stuff that Naruto is going though and understands it, she just doesnt want to be another burden to him.


You're right, I agree that he needed a reality check and Sakura knew that. But I think she also should've known that reality check=honesty and the way she went about trying to give him that reality check caused more harm than good atm. If Sai/Kakashi wasn't there to explain her intentions then Naruto would've been a confused mess and would only get worse once Gaara shows up.

I definitely think her intentions were good and selfless, but at the same time this whole event should be something she should learn from because it caused more problems than it solved.

Well I don't think she thinks of him as a kid anymore. But between what Sai told her and leading up to the confession itself I think she did because she was reminded of the promise he made when they were children. She saw him act and look so determined and he even said he understood her pain, but it never occurred to her how much pain he was really going thru and why. I think she wanted to fix that so much and make up for that lack of observation and protect the boy who made a promise to her. I also think this because Naruto himself had to explain to her that it was more than promise that made him chase after Sasuke. Haha this is fun smile.gif!

Edited by Kadardi, 27 April 2013 - 12:30 AM.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 12:54 AM

QUOTE (Kadardi @ Apr 26 2013, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wasn't a double post after all woo! Thanks Dαrkrєrsŧ.



It probably would be more accurate to say that they don't have time to talk because they are fighting a monster who doesn't care at all about what they have to say and doesn't have anything to distract it.

Madara and Obito didn't do much other than stand there when the alliance showed possibly for 2 good reasons:

Madara: picks and chooses his battles. If he doesn't see anything worthy to fight then he won't bother. With the alliance being held down by the Ten Tails he most likely didn't interfere because he thought they were all going to die anyway so why bother with ugly little weak people.

Obito: Kakashi himself said that he was trying to verify something with Naruto. I think that means he's been holding back because he wants some questions answered(which explains why he let Hinata do her speech instead of killing her then and there and letting Naruto despair some more).

Now of course, Obito and Madara are distracted by Kakashi and Hashirama, and the Ten Tails doesn't look like someone who will stop attacking for a minute...

Btw so many good posts here.



You're right, I agree that he needed a reality check and Sakura knew that. But I think she also should've known that reality check=honesty and the way she went about trying to give him that reality check caused more harm than good atm. If Sai/Kakashi wasn't there to explain her intentions then Naruto would've been a confused mess and would only get worse once Gaara shows up.

I definitely think her intentions were good and selfless, but at the same time this whole event should be something she should learn from because it caused more problems than it solved.

Well I don't think she thinks of him as a kid anymore. But between what Sai told her and leading up to the confession itself I think she did because she was reminded of the promise he made when they were children. She saw him act and look so determined and he even said he understood her pain, but it never occurred to her how much pain he was really going thru and why. I think she wanted to fix that so much and make up for that lack of observation and protect the boy who made a promise to her. I also think this because Naruto himself had to explain to her that it was more than promise that made him chase after Sasuke. Haha this is fun smile.gif!

They tried, Kakashi was honest, Gaara did the correct speech and Naruto fainted due to the pressure, and still didnt helped nothing for Naruto's resolve.
Also the problem of her promise is that Naruto loved her and the promise ofc hurted him she didnt asked to bring Sasuke back because he was her friend and teammate but becasue she loved him romantically(she even says "it's the only and most prized thing i'm asking to you") think about doing this in front of someome who loves you, she went in tears of knowing that she made Naruto accept her selfish promise and also broke his heart.
Naruto felt the same way because he was also heartbroken like her, Naruto tries to hide his true feelings the same expression he did to Sakura was the same when he see her hugging Sasuke on the hospital.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 01:01 AM

QUOTE (Kadardi @ Apr 26 2013, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow you guys move fast lol. I'll have to catch up. But first...



THISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHIS a thousand times THIS!



Good point, she did obviously think about. But I still think she thought about it in the wrong way. Hinata also had a little time to think before jumping in that fight and we saw what happened. My point is she is close to Naruto and she has acknowledged several times that he isn't a little kid anymore, but she still protects him like he IS that little kid. Don't get me wrong. Giving up in the Chuunin Exam was AWESOME on her part and I loved it. But it made sense at the time because she didn't understand who Naruto was completely then.

By the Kage Summit she had seen how much he has grown and maybe should've jumped to the conclusion that if he can handle being a genin Hokage or the death of Jiraiya or a gang of S-class criminals after him(and one of them attacking his home), then he can handle a frank discussion about Sasuke. The fact that she didn't I think shows that in that situation her worry(and regret) DID cause her thinking to be waaaaay off(just like Hinata's concern and regret(not telling her feelings) caused her to make a stupid decision. Though yes her decision was a LOT more selfish than Sakura's).



Thank you! I think that too. And about the 2nd point yeah she did blush and smile you know what else? Sai didn't say it was fake ;P.



Understandable. She hasn't given ANY hint whatsoever that she only sees Naruto as a friend(notable for a fandom that really likes direct/indirect statments and thoughts to decide who likes who). There is 540, but idk Hinata was all 'we have to protect Naruto!' and now look at who's protecting who(she TRIED in 614 but then lol death happened)? So I'm taking that with a grain of salt lol.

Ah the author trying to keep suspense up. I can believe that because if the story went a little bit different, something else would be keeping them apart. I don't think I've ever seen anything ever that was long and had the main couple get together in the beginning or middle. Except in fanfiction. But honestly I heard once that some advice for authors is to keep the main pairing apart for as long as possible because if you get them together TOO soon they will get boring and you have to give them conflict that might make things worse. Not true all the time, but it can happen.

Sai should also be accounted for since I noticed he also believed Sakura when she said she loves Naruto. Her little laugh and 'what are you talking about?' was suspicious but then she did show some righteous anger when Naruto flat out accused her of lying which leads me to believe that the nervousness really was because it wasn't going as planned and not because she was really lying. And of course she never confirmed if she was.





And then they kick ass.

Seriously that would be good! It'd be funny too if he was trying to tell her to get back so she doesn't get hurt or something and then she yells at him like classic Sakura lol.



I'm hoping they get a few seconds to talk on the battlefield as well but the Ten Tails probably won't stand still to let them talk like Obito and Madara do.



YES because I am drawing blanks here.



That's why I love their relationship so much! And yeah she definitely has to understand that they can SHARE burdens instead of trying to covertly protect each other all of the time(hopefully she gets Naruto to realize that in this battle). She better remember how the confession went next time she tries to speak him. Because he won't play that game this time lolI hope we see his thoughts on it now. I want that a lot..



Sai is boss because he knows all, sees all, and tells all. I get that. I wonder if the hospital scene affected him waaaaaay more than he let on(like he wonders if Sakura would ever cry over him the way cries over Sasuke). And then when they failed to grab Sasuke the first time all of those insecurities kinda just took over his mind. Sakura's definitely going to have to take the first step here. Unless we(and Sakura) get a surprise and Naruto makes the first move.

Lol good! I was worried if it made any sense when I typed it up. Yes because she's knows pretty darn well how far he'd go for her. And as far as he cares, Sakura just being by his side is plenty far. But if she can show him how she does more then...yeah.

Yay! Wonderful biggrin.gif!


I think this is gonna be my last LAP of the day. biggrin.gif Hopefully, I don't stray in this post. LMAO. happy.gif


Yup! Sai didn't say it was fake. He in fact told him what he felt was the REAL reason she did all of what she did, and it seemed to be quite right. She thought about Naruto, she put her feelings aside, and was willing to saddle Naruto's hate for his safety. I think some people fail to actually APPRECIATE this particular scene as a whole.

I feel the same when it comes to Sakura's feelings for Naruto. She didn't deny her supposed feelings for him during her confession, and even after, she hasn't dismissed this either. It's just been pushed to the side only to resurface whenever Kishi feels it's that time. I think it'll come more from Sakura's side since that whole situation has just happened with Hinata, and he doesn't want to kill that moment maybe? Even though there hasn't been any confirmation, a lot of people feel as though the hand holding and scenes after are sort of a confirmation that Naruto's interested EVEN THOUGH he hasn't EVER said he's romantically interested in her. He hasn't even thought such things either so it's sort of a nice way for Kishi to may with that because a lot of people are biting into it. He's just reeling them in IMO. I could be very wrong about this, but given every moment they've had, it's NEVER shown that Naruto feels a certain way for her, and we're shown that in Part 2, he still loves Sakura even after everything they've been through. I'm glad Kishi put that there for us just to let us know that that in particular hasn't changed and I'm sure it still hasn't changed. He's closer with Hinata. Hell yeah! There's no denying that, but what he feels romantically for her seems to be unchanged. I don't think that it's there for them.

Oh, of course Kishi could keep their relationship interesting if they did get together early on, but given how much the fans love certain couples, I'd be wise if he waits till near the end to actually pursue such a thing. I've always felt that this is why the progression between Naruto and Sakura in Part 2 has been a slow, and steady progression. I think he used the opportunity with Sasuke having to be taken care of, and Sakura finally finding out Naruto's feelings to advantage because mixing them up would cause a bit of uncertainty. At the end of her confession, we're left with questions, and really not flat out answers. Just speculation on how the two feel. As you've said before, had she and Naruto talked about Sasuke and only Sasuke, then she confessed afterwards, he'd likely accept it given there would of been no ulterior motive for her to confess. biggrin.gif Again, I think he took the wise path and waited to confirm any pairing, but I feel like he should start giving Naruto and Sakura more moments since they're lacking. He's put a hell of a lot of focus on NH throughout the war building their bond/relationship.

I too believe that her nervousness when Naruto called her out was due to her not liking the way the plan went but Sai said that she was aware that he would likely have been against killing Sasuke. Naruto confirms this when she sees that he's doing this for his own reasons as well. The leverage she THOUGHT she had over him with the promise was dismissed, and the plan went south unfortunately. Anyway, it's true what you say. Naruto UNFORTUNATELY sleep.gif didn't confirm his feelings then and there and Sakura didn't really confirm hers after she gets called out. She just defends herself. That confession was a big mess. LMAO.


LOL I'm glad you found that bit entertaining! After Naruto and Sakura exchange words, I don't think he'd tell her to get back. Not at all. In fact, I think he'd happily accept her assistance, and I also think this would make Sakura VERY happy. It'd be pretty damn sweet. Hopefully a moment somewhat like this does happen where she fights together with him. I find no one more fitting than her to do so given she's been striving to do what she can for him throughout Part 2. happy.gif


I think Kishi could possibly squeeze in some talk time for Naruto and Sakura in the Ten tails fight. It could happen before Sasuke comes or even after. I'd be interesting seeing a scene resembling the one I mentioned above being played out while Sasuke's on the field but it seems like it may happen before. If it does, I think the alliance could stall while Sakura fixes him back up or whatever if she needs to. biggrin.gif

Haha, I wonder if a Hinata fan could go farther and give us reasons as to what she learned from that moment. I really don't think even they could. It's not hard to rally up all of her panels and see what she's gained from the experience. XD


Mannnnnn, that would be pretty damn amazing! biggrin.gif I'd LOVE to see her say something along the lines of sharing his burdens along with him, and helping him overcome them. It'd be the ultimate NS moment for me personally.

That hospital scene made me like Naruto for Sakura even more when I shipped them before to be honest. I hope a scene like the one in the OVA happens where she's holding Naruto in her lap. fu.png Given all that's happened recently. it doesn't seem like it's gonna be Naruto who makes the first move. If he does, I see him actually resolving things with Hinata first, or Sakura pushing her feelings aside, and telling Naruto he should end up with Hinata only for him to dismiss that and tell her that she's the one he loves. biggrin.gif

I definitely agree with the last bit, anddddd yup! I really like the scene with Sakura in the latest chapter. biggrin.gif Since she addressed it, hopefully she'll do something about it. cool.gif


Andddd, I'm done! biggrin.gif Phew!


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 02:32 AM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Apr 26 2013, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think this is gonna be my last LAP of the day. biggrin.gif Hopefully, I don't stray in this post. LMAO. happy.gif


Yup! Sai didn't say it was fake. He in fact told him what he felt was the REAL reason she did all of what she did, and it seemed to be quite right. She thought about Naruto, she put her feelings aside, and was willing to saddle Naruto's hate for his safety. I think some people fail to actually APPRECIATE this particular scene as a whole.

I feel the same when it comes to Sakura's feelings for Naruto. She didn't deny her supposed feelings for him during her confession, and even after, she hasn't dismissed this either. It's just been pushed to the side only to resurface whenever Kishi feels it's that time. I think it'll come more from Sakura's side since that whole situation has just happened with Hinata, and he doesn't want to kill that moment maybe? Even though there hasn't been any confirmation, a lot of people feel as though the hand holding and scenes after are sort of a confirmation that Naruto's interested EVEN THOUGH he hasn't EVER said he's romantically interested in her. He hasn't even thought such things either so it's sort of a nice way for Kishi to may with that because a lot of people are biting into it. He's just reeling them in IMO. I could be very wrong about this, but given every moment they've had, it's NEVER shown that Naruto feels a certain way for her, and we're shown that in Part 2, he still loves Sakura even after everything they've been through. I'm glad Kishi put that there for us just to let us know that that in particular hasn't changed and I'm sure it still hasn't changed. He's closer with Hinata. Hell yeah! There's no denying that, but what he feels romantically for her seems to be unchanged. I don't think that it's there for them.

Oh, of course Kishi could keep their relationship interesting if they did get together early on, but given how much the fans love certain couples, I'd be wise if he waits till near the end to actually pursue such a thing. I've always felt that this is why the progression between Naruto and Sakura in Part 2 has been a slow, and steady progression. I think he used the opportunity with Sasuke having to be taken care of, and Sakura finally finding out Naruto's feelings to advantage because mixing them up would cause a bit of uncertainty. At the end of her confession, we're left with questions, and really not flat out answers. Just speculation on how the two feel. As you've said before, had she and Naruto talked about Sasuke and only Sasuke, then she confessed afterwards, he'd likely accept it given there would of been no ulterior motive for her to confess. biggrin.gif Again, I think he took the wise path and waited to confirm any pairing, but I feel like he should start giving Naruto and Sakura more moments since they're lacking. He's put a hell of a lot of focus on NH throughout the war building their bond/relationship.

I too believe that her nervousness when Naruto called her out was due to her not liking the way the plan went but Sai said that she was aware that he would likely have been against killing Sasuke. Naruto confirms this when she sees that he's doing this for his own reasons as well. The leverage she THOUGHT she had over him with the promise was dismissed, and the plan went south unfortunately. Anyway, it's true what you say. Naruto UNFORTUNATELY sleep.gif didn't confirm his feelings then and there and Sakura didn't really confirm hers after she gets called out. She just defends herself. That confession was a big mess. LMAO.


LOL I'm glad you found that bit entertaining! After Naruto and Sakura exchange words, I don't think he'd tell her to get back. Not at all. In fact, I think he'd happily accept her assistance, and I also think this would make Sakura VERY happy. It'd be pretty damn sweet. Hopefully a moment somewhat like this does happen where she fights together with him. I find no one more fitting than her to do so given she's been striving to do what she can for him throughout Part 2. happy.gif


I think Kishi could possibly squeeze in some talk time for Naruto and Sakura in the Ten tails fight. It could happen before Sasuke comes or even after. I'd be interesting seeing a scene resembling the one I mentioned above being played out while Sasuke's on the field but it seems like it may happen before. If it does, I think the alliance could stall while Sakura fixes him back up or whatever if she needs to. biggrin.gif

Haha, I wonder if a Hinata fan could go farther and give us reasons as to what she learned from that moment. I really don't think even they could. It's not hard to rally up all of her panels and see what she's gained from the experience. XD


Mannnnnn, that would be pretty damn amazing! biggrin.gif I'd LOVE to see her say something along the lines of sharing his burdens along with him, and helping him overcome them. It'd be the ultimate NS moment for me personally.

That hospital scene made me like Naruto for Sakura even more when I shipped them before to be honest. I hope a scene like the one in the OVA happens where she's holding Naruto in her lap. fu.png Given all that's happened recently. it doesn't seem like it's gonna be Naruto who makes the first move. If he does, I see him actually resolving things with Hinata first, or Sakura pushing her feelings aside, and telling Naruto he should end up with Hinata only for him to dismiss that and tell her that she's the one he loves. biggrin.gif

I definitely agree with the last bit, anddddd yup! I really like the scene with Sakura in the latest chapter. biggrin.gif Since she addressed it, hopefully she'll do something about it. cool.gif


Andddd, I'm done! biggrin.gif Phew!


One thing that's definite with Sakura, she tries to make it up to Naruto and do something for him several times in the series, even with her failed attempts but good intentions at the land of iron, this did not stop her, in a way she may have learned from her mistakes and may later succeed where she has not before. She learns the promise was a selfish mistake that Naruto still intends to follow but she is determined not to let him do everything alone, basically at this point even if Naruto tells her to leave, she may stand against him and tell him to basically deal with it, we are teammates and its our job as teammates to help each other. cool.gif


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#18085 Don-kun

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 02:43 AM

All I want to say is that the thread is full of win, win post.
It was so nice Reading them all.

Tank you guys for the good read. biggrin.gif

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 02:53 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Apr 26 2013, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All I want to say is that the thread is full of win, win post.
It was so nice Reading them all.

Tank you guys for the good read. biggrin.gif

I'm glad you're happy with it because all I see is walls of text that could easily be shortened to get straight to the point.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 03:10 AM

Still love them. biggrin.gif

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 03:29 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Apr 26 2013, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm glad you're happy with it because all I see is walls of text that could easily be shortened to get straight to the point.

Meh, the posts are spaced out well enough so that they're not an eyesore, and I like a good LAP if it's well written and is about something I like (NaruSaku). danarusakunp3.gif
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Posted 27 April 2013 - 03:38 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Apr 26 2013, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm glad you're happy with it because all I see is walls of text that could easily be shortened to get straight to the point.


LMAO! Well, I couldn't get straight to the point. I rambled. cool.gif Yes... I rambled.... cool.gif

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 03:42 AM

Anybody gets the feelings that Kishi read the Dragon Quest manga when he was younger and decided to copy the character relationships along with the personality archetypes straight out of that story?

I'm not saying they're a carbon copy but many of the elements are indeed the same. I haven't read the manga but I still remember that old posts about the comparisons between the characters in Dragon Quest and Naruto.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 03:57 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Apr 26 2013, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anybody gets the feelings that Kishi read the Dragon Quest manga when he was younger and decided to copy the character relationships along with the personality archetypes straight out of that story?

I'm not saying they're a carbon copy but many of the elements are indeed the same. I haven't read the manga but I still remember that old posts about the comparisons between the characters in Dragon Quest and Naruto.

Yeah I remember the posts that highlighted the similarities. It was rather shocking to be honest. Though it was positive for us, so I guess we should hope that he did borrow from Dragon Quest. happy.gif
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Posted 27 April 2013 - 03:58 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Apr 27 2013, 03:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anybody gets the feelings that Kishi read the Dragon Quest manga when he was younger and decided to copy the character relationships along with the personality archetypes straight out of that story?

I'm not saying they're a carbon copy but many of the elements are indeed the same. I haven't read the manga but I still remember that old posts about the comparisons between the characters in Dragon Quest and Naruto.

Bag posted about that a long time ago. From the panels he posted, the similarities are pretty obvious.

Here's a question for everybody: Would you be okay with Sakura choosing Naruto despite still having feelings for Sasuke?

Personally, I would prefer it if she got over those feelings because they have always been one-sided and selfish and have been her biggest weakness so I wouldn't be okay with it.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:09 AM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Apr 26 2013, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bag posted about that a long time ago. From the panels he posted, the similarities are pretty obvious.

Here's a question for everybody: Would you be okay with Sakura choosing Naruto despite still having feelings for Sasuke?

Personally, I would prefer it if she got over those feelings because they have always been one-sided and selfish and have been her biggest weakness so I wouldn't be okay with it.


It depends on how it's handled. If for instance Sakura was presented the opportunity to pursue a relationship with Sasuke but refused it because of her feelings for Naruto whilst still having some concern or "love" for the former then it wouldn't be too severe of a frailty even though I would hope that Sakura would completely move beyond her sentiments for Sasuke. The same applies to Hinata. She could still possess feelings of love for Naruto because of the individual that he is but I would want whomever she began to pursue romantically to take a strong precedence over her feelings for Naruto.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:29 AM

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It depends on how it's handled. If for instance Sakura was presented the opportunity to pursue a relationship with Sasuke but refused it because of her feelings for Naruto whilst still having some concern or "love" for the former then it wouldn't be too severe of a frailty even though I would hope that Sakura would completely move beyond her sentiments for Sasuke. The same applies to Hinata. She could still possess feelings of love for Naruto because of the individual that he is but I would want whomever she began to pursue romantically to take a strong precedence over her feelings for Naruto.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:36 AM

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Well Sasuke does appear to be the type who might enjoy a submissive wife who would not present too much contention with his decisions. Plus she does possess a doujutsu KG and is part of an illustrious clan that seems to value and abide by traditionalist customs. Hinata would have alot of chemistry with Sasuke if they got to know each other now that I think about it. Heh...

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:00 AM

QUOTE (Atheck @ Apr 27 2013, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It depends on how it's handled. If for instance Sakura was presented the opportunity to pursue a relationship with Sasuke but refused it because of her feelings for Naruto whilst still having some concern or "love" for the former then it wouldn't be too severe of a frailty even though I would hope that Sakura would completely move beyond her sentiments for Sasuke. The same applies to Hinata. She could still possess feelings of love for Naruto because of the individual that he is but I would want whomever she began to pursue romantically to take a strong precedence over her feelings for Naruto.

In my case If Sakura still wanted to be with Saasuke, lets say another Kaka Rin scenario but she ended up with Naruto anyway because Sasuke tell her that he has being nothing but a jerk to her and Naruto truly loves. At the moment I would be Royally piss. mad.gif

But if Sakura admits that Naruto was right when he said that she was lying to herself about Sasuke but he was wrong about her feelings for him (Naruto) because she will never feel for Sasuke was she feels for him I would be OK.

Why do I feel that way?
Lets say Sakura realize that Sasuke wasn't a great man but Naruto as always being a wonderful person to her so she decides to move on. What would happen if Sasuke was a wonderful person to her? Naruto would of never have a chance.
Sakura goes with Naruto because she realizes that Sasuke will never like her the way she does. NS happen, but what would happen if Sasuke gave her the chance to start a relationship.

Those are two example of why I don't want Sakura to completely get over Sasuke because Naruto will be her husband only because things between her on Sasuke never worked, so she deciding Naruto because she loves him more that what she ever loved Sasuke or even her rejecting the chance to be with him because she wants to be with Naruto would be a lot better than any other possibility.


Example of Sakura rejection:

Sasuke: Sakura I know i being a terrible friend these last year and recognize that I hurt you a lot but I will dedicate my life to repay you all the suffering and tears I made you went trough, would you like to give us a chance.

Sakura: You know Sasuke what you said really makes me happy and the old Sakura would probably be jumping of joy this moment, but there is someone else someone who always love me and tried his best to see me happy but I was very blind before now I'm grateful that I notice him before it was to late.

Sasuke: Is this Naruto you are talking about?

Sakura smiles.

Sasuke: smiles yeah he is a great man and I have no doubt he will make you happy, he really loves you.

Sakura: I know.

Sasuke: Just looking at you I can tell that you really happy.

Sakura: Yes I'm, but what about you? What are you planing to do now?

Sasuke: Well Am planing to give Naruto my good bay and so I could go visit some villages and re-pay some of the things I created with my previous behavior.

Sakura: we are going to miss you.

Sasuke: don't worry I will be back.

Sakura: Take care.

Sasuke: bay now.

5 Years later: Sakura say hi to uncle Sasuke (insert name)

I know it's a nice fan fiction right. laugh.gif






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Posted 27 April 2013 - 08:10 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Apr 26 2013, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In my case If Sakura still wanted to be with Saasuke, lets say another Kaka Rin scenario but she ended up with Naruto anyway because Sasuke tell her that he has being nothing but a jerk to her and Naruto truly loves. At the moment I would be Royally piss. mad.gif

But if Sakura admits that Naruto was right when he said that she was lying to herself about Sasuke but he was wrong about her feelings for him (Naruto) because she will never feel for Sasuke was she feels for him I would be OK.

Why do I feel that way?
Lets say Sakura realize that Sasuke wasn't a great man but Naruto as always being a wonderful person to her so she decides to move on. What would happen if Sasuke was a wonderful person to her? Naruto would of never have a chance.
Sakura goes with Naruto because she realizes that Sasuke will never like her the way she does. NS happen, but what would happen if Sasuke gave her the chance to start a relationship.

Those are two example of why I don't want Sakura to completely get over Sasuke because Naruto will be her husband only because things between her on Sasuke never worked, so she deciding Naruto because she loves him more that what she ever loved Sasuke or even her rejecting the chance to be with him because she wants to be with Naruto would be a lot better than any other possibility.


Example of Sakura rejection:

Sasuke: Sakura I know i being a terrible friend these last year and recognize that I hurt you a lot but I will dedicate my life to repay you all the suffering and tears I made you went trough, would you like to give us a chance.

Sakura: You know Sasuke what you said really makes me happy and the old Sakura would probably be jumping of joy this moment, but there is someone else someone who always love me and tried his best to see me happy but I was very blind before now I'm grateful that I notice him before it was to late.

Sasuke: Is this Naruto you are talking about?

Sakura smiles.

Sasuke: smiles yeah he is a great man and I have no doubt he will make you happy, he really loves you.

Sakura: I know.

Sasuke: Just looking at you I can tell that you really happy.

Sakura: Yes I'm, but what about you? What are you planing to do now?

Sasuke: Well Am planing to give Naruto my good bay and so I could go visit some villages and re-pay some of the things I created with my previous behavior.

Sakura: we are going to miss you.

Sasuke: don't worry I will be back.

Sakura: Take care.

Sasuke: bay now.

5 Years later: Sakura say hi to uncle Sasuke (insert name)

I know it's a nice fan fiction right. laugh.gif

inb4 strider wants to put that in dialogue corner


you made some good points I should add, it's the execution that im worried about. I just hope the translation doesn't make the entire conversation feel stupid. Sakura's feelings just seem so hard to resolve in a satisfying manner each time I think about it. I guess it's because I want it done perfectly. I wonder if this is how Kishi feels.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 12:25 PM

The thing is when it comes to NS, there is little romance implications from either of them. They are just supporting each other and have shown little romantic implications, whilst SS, Sakura well......... god forbid if she caught sasuke tied up in a dark room.... pictureem0.gif pictureem0.gif pictureem0.gif

We really need to see some romantic implications between them soon to actually see how it would work between them.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 12:50 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 27 2013, 08:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing is when it comes to NS, there is little romance implications from either of them. They are just supporting each other and have shown little romantic implications, whilst SS, Sakura well......... god forbid if she caught sasuke tied up in a dark room.... pictureem0.gif pictureem0.gif pictureem0.gif

We really need to see some romantic implications between them soon to actually see how it would work between them.

I think the fact that there's no real romance implication from the second player, as in the person who's being questioned to love the first, harms the whole romance in general. NS got that cover. In NH, as I said before, in 615, Naruto is the second player because he's being questioned by fans if he is getting feelings for Hinata. Sadly, there is no indication. It goes the same with Sasuke. Now you said that there's little for NS. Here's the thing: they're coming from Sakura, the second player in NS.

Naruto is first player because we know he loves her, so anything he does something about love is no surprising. However, when the other player does it, it is because she's being in position of "what do you see in first player, Naruto?" Take the feeding scene for example. Noticed that it started off as a serious moment, no comedy whatsoever. When Sakura was going to feed him, Naruto looks very genuine and there's no comedy face like hearts or anything because this moment was true romance implication. It became comedy when Sai messed up and noticed it happened in the next page, meaning a fan would get so hype to turn the page, only to face palm and say, "So close!" That's the beauty of manga, hype before next page is turned.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 12:51 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Apr 27 2013, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
inb4 strider wants to put that in dialogue corner


you made some good points I should add, it's the execution that im worried about. I just hope the translation doesn't make the entire conversation feel stupid. Sakura's feelings just seem so hard to resolve in a satisfying manner each time I think about it. I guess it's because I want it done perfectly. I wonder if this is how Kishi feels.


Now I wont complain about it out of pure spite.

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