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#18061 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 06:38 PM

QUOTE (KnS @ Apr 26 2013, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have another comment on re-direct.

In terms of assigning blame or bad judgment during her confession, I bristle when all the blame is heaped on Sakura when Naruto owns at least half of their miscommunication problems.

Naruto had a chance to say something meaningful to Sakura during her confession -- to admit what's in his heart -- to admit what Kishimoto showed the audience through the first heartbreakingly hopeful panel of Naruto's face when Sakura said she loved him -- and yet he didn't. Instead he chose to focus on her feelings for Sasuke -- AGAIN. He chose to squelch his own feelings -- AGAIN. He needs a swift kick in his little self-deprecating butt.

The closest Naruto got to admitting anything was when Sakura said, "If you don't like me then just say so!" and he didn't deny it. Again, the message is (or should be) clear to the audience how he feels, but Naruto is allowing Sasuke to run the show in absentia.

I so want to HULKSMASH Sasuke. I'm so tired of him being the emo poison pill that ruins everything, lol. (Speaking of Kishimoto's intentional frustrations....)

It was all interrupted by the idea of abandoning Sasuke completely, not that Naruto doesn't like her anymore. Sakura got upset that she believed that he didn't like her anymore, which is why she told him just say so. But Naruto never deny it, instead he's more focus on why forget Sasuke out of all time, which is then Sakura shift focus to his safety, which she's right, because Naruto keeps putting too much of his body on the line. So the pursuit to save Sasuke is still on as well as confessing his love after it's done, which is sad because all of us wants him to confess already but he has set the priority straight and there's nothing you can change. Honestly, this does seem settled as a auto win, but for now, we have to witness the journey to that finish line.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 06:39 PM

QUOTE (KnS @ Apr 26 2013, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have another comment on re-direct.

In terms of assigning blame or bad judgment during her confession, I bristle when all the blame is heaped on Sakura when Naruto owns at least half of their miscommunication problems.

Naruto had a chance to say something meaningful to Sakura during her confession -- to admit what's in his heart -- to admit what Kishimoto showed the audience through the first heartbreakingly hopeful panel of Naruto's face when Sakura said she loved him -- and yet he didn't. Instead he chose to focus on her feelings for Sasuke -- AGAIN. He chose to squelch his own feelings -- AGAIN. He needs a swift kick in his little self-deprecating butt.

The closest Naruto got to admitting anything was when Sakura said, "If you don't like me then just say so!" and he didn't deny it. Again, the message is (or should be) clear to the audience how he feels, but Naruto is allowing Sasuke to run the show in absentia.

I so want to HULKSMASH Sasuke. I'm so tired of him being the emo poison pill that ruins everything, lol. (Speaking of Kishimoto's intentional frustrations....)


Agreed on all points, and that's another thing that led me to believe he still loved her even at that time. You make a lot of really good points here. Loving the discussion that's going on right now. ^^

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Apr 26 2013, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed on all points, and that's another thing that led me to believe he still loved her even at that time. You make a lot of really good points here. Loving the discussion that's going on right now. ^^

Anyone that doubts Naruto's love for Sakura right now can't be reading the same series, in my opinion. He's shown no signs of changing his feelings, even after her confession, which was apparently what ruined their relationship - according to some. sleep.gif

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Apr 26 2013, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone that doubts Naruto's love for Sakura right now can't be reading the same series, in my opinion. He's shown no signs of changing his feelings, even after her confession, which was apparently what ruined their relationship - according to some. sleep.gif


I feel like that's just wishful thinking. I can't understand why anyone who reads the series would want their relationship to burn out, and it really does prove whose interest certain people have at heart even if it means dampening a totally different relationship/bond between characters. cool.gif Naruto and Sakura will ALWAYS be close. That little hurdle they went through isn't gonna kill anything they have going on like some would want. Just because they're not communicating as much at the moment means absolutely nothing. From Sakura's point of view, she still holds him in high regard, and STILL wishes to assist him. I'm sure Naruto feels the same way he did before about Sakura, though I wonder if in some way, it'll be stronger. Especially him finding out the things we readers already know when it comes to Sakura>Naruto.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:22 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Apr 26 2013, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I feel like that's just wishful thinking. I can't understand why anyone who reads the series would want their relationship to burn out, and it really does prove whose interest certain people have at heart even if it means dampening a totally different relationship/bond between characters. cool.gif Naruto and Sakura will ALWAYS be close. That little hurdle they went through isn't gonna kill anything they have going on like some would want. Just because they're not communicating as much at the moment means absolutely nothing. From Sakura's point of view, she still holds him in high regard, and STILL wishes to assist him. I'm sure Naruto feels the same way he did before about Sakura, though I wonder if in some way, it'll be stronger. Especially him finding out the things we readers already know when it comes to Sakura>Naruto.

Ever since Sai told Naruto the reasons that she confessed to him, I've always kind of wondered how and if Naruto would treat her differently. I don't mean in a bad way, but would he treat her a little different realizing that she did all that for him? I mean, ever since the confession, the two of them haven't really had a real conversation, only little snippets like "Naruto?" "You don't look hurt!" and "Sakura first of all--" "Got it!". There really hasn't been a chance to observe their interaction with one another. And I think that some people mistake their lack of interaction as Naruto falling out of love with Sakura, and yes, that's honestly just wishful thinking. There is absolutely [b]no[b] evidence to support that claim, and I think all the people who think that are gonna have a huge wake up call, especially during what will happen in future chapters.

Also, I have a couple of random questions, if anyone would care to answer them:

1)During the confession, I've always wondered what was up with Naruto's nose being shaded in? Is that because of, like, the weather? Or is it blushing? Anyone want to clarify?
2)This is another weird observation of mine, but when the alliance arrives and Naruto tells Sakura to heal Kakashi, why doesn't Kishi show Naruto's face? This is probably insignificant, but does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Thanks, y'all!

Edited by MistFlower, 26 April 2013 - 07:24 PM.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:41 PM

QUOTE (MistFlower @ Apr 26 2013, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ever since Sai told Naruto the reasons that she confessed to him, I've always kind of wondered how and if Naruto would treat her differently. I don't mean in a bad way, but would he treat her a little different realizing that she did all that for him? I mean, ever since the confession, the two of them haven't really had a real conversation, only little snippets like "Naruto?" "You don't look hurt!" and "Sakura first of all--" "Got it!". There really hasn't been a chance to observe their interaction with one another. And I think that some people mistake their lack of interaction as Naruto falling out of love with Sakura, and yes, that's honestly just wishful thinking. There is absolutely [b]no[b] evidence to support that claim, and I think all the people who think that are gonna have a huge wake up call, especially during what will happen in future chapters.

Also, I have a couple of random questions, if anyone would care to answer them:

1)During the confession, I've always wondered what was up with Naruto's nose being shaded in? Is that because of, like, the weather? Or is it blushing? Anyone want to clarify?
2)This is another weird observation of mine, but when the alliance arrives and Naruto tells Sakura to heal Kakashi, why doesn't Kishi show Naruto's face? This is probably insignificant, but does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Thanks, y'all!


It's just Kishi being Kishi. Look at the events after the reunion. I remember it vaguely so correct me if I'm wrong anyone.

After Sasuke leaves, Naruto get effected by the poison, and later he falls out and Kakashi ends up carrying him back to Konoha? That leaves no time for them to interact really. They get back, and there's a discussion between the rookies to which Sakura wonders what Naruto isn't saying. There's no further interaction really after that. Sakura tells Naruto that Tsunade is well, and with that interaction we see that they're still fine and neither one is mad at the other. Hell, look at Naruto's face when Sasuke was about to hurt Sakura and how much it resembles Minatos. cool.gif

I too thought initially that things would be a bit different between them considering this was a game changer. Sakura finally confessed, and a totally different door had opened, but Kishi hasn't shown us much between the two. We were mainly shown Naruto and Hinata's interactions but now, it SEEMS as though that is over for the time being and we'll likely finally see something between both Naruto and Sakura. I think on the field, we'll see them work together quite well but there probably won't be anything of even greater significance like feelings being expressed especially after that whole scene with Hinata. If anything, I could see Kishi using Sakura as a means to sort of propel NaruSaku forward with her feelings being explored a bit here. It's a good thing Sasuke is coming back into the picture soon because the two of them will be right there. I look forward to seeing her stance when the three of them are together again...

As for your questions.

1. I don't remember why his nose was shaded in like that but it had nothing to do with the confession. biggrin.gif Didn't he have a bandage on his nose at first or something from before? LOL I don't remember clearly. XD

2. I sort of felt like that scene was them being in sync somewhat given Sakura was already on it when she landed. They matched one another there. I also liked that Sakura wasn't solely worried about Naruto there to be honest. Then she worries about him when it truly matters.

Hope that helps. ^^

Edited by StriderC, 26 April 2013 - 07:42 PM.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:46 PM

We're at war, there's literally no time for Naruto and Sakura to interact, especially since they have two exact opposite needs to fill, Naruto is the offense while Sakura is the one taking care of the injured. They can't afford to lose a medic and Naruto's not gonna just protect her when every single one of his friends are on the battlefield risking their lives for him (including Sakura)

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:51 PM

QUOTE (MangaReader @ Apr 26 2013, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We're at war, there's literally no time for Naruto and Sakura to interact, especially since they have two exact opposite needs to fill, Naruto is the offense while Sakura is the one taking care of the injured. They can't afford to lose a medic and Naruto's not gonna just protect her when every single one of his friends are on the battlefield risking their lives for him (including Sakura)

Naruto was doing the exactly the opposite on the last chapter.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:51 PM

^ Thanks very much for answering my questions! happy.gif
And yes, I think that Kishi is putting them on hold as well. Naruto and Sakura interacting is inevitible, because they're both main characters, Naruto and Sasuke are going to fight, and Sakura has yet to officially confirm her feelings.

But I think that once they do interact, it will be different than normal, mainly because Sakura has presented the idea that Naruto could be a romantic option for her. Even if it had been a complete lie, which I do not think it was, this door has never been opened to any other people other than Naruto and Sakura. I think that is the closest to mutual that any pairing, between NH, SS, and NS, has ever been.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 08:00 PM

QUOTE (MistFlower @ Apr 26 2013, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^ Thanks very much for answering my questions! happy.gif
And yes, I think that Kishi is putting them on hold as well. Naruto and Sakura interacting is inevitible, because they're both main characters, Naruto and Sasuke are going to fight, and Sakura has yet to officially confirm her feelings.

But I think that once they do interact, it will be different than normal, mainly because Sakura has presented the idea that Naruto could be a romantic option for her. Even if it had been a complete lie, which I do not think it was, this door has never been opened to any other people other than Naruto and Sakura. I think that is the closest to mutual that any pairing, between NH, SS, and NS, has ever been.


No problem. happy.gif

It's just as you've said. Naruto and Sakura interacting is definitely inevitable. I think what we're gonna see is Sakura explore her feelings a bit. I also think their interacting will be a bit different than before. It has been pushed to the side for long enough IMO.

NS has what I feel is needed for a great anime couple. Development, mutual interest, and a very strong bond. I'll always feel like this one is the more logical couple out of the current lineup. ^^

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 08:28 PM

Clearly Kishi wedged a wall between after the confession.

But this wall is manifested as Naruto's going into a brooding mode.

So poison finally gets to Naruto he faints

He recovers somewhat but isn't quite healed so he doesn't start a conversation with Sakura. Sakura on her side feeling guilty also doesn't say anything.

When Kiba starts to rant about the latter events, here Naruto somewhat jumps to rescue Sakura but it's similar to the deflecting with the bridge builder.

Afterwards he meets the others and insists that he be the one who fights Sasuke. Here finally we get Sakura's thoughts she being the only one to witness and remembers what Naruto said about fighting with Sasuke.

Both were happy that Tsunade woken up from her coma but Sakura had to tell everybody and Naruto got summoned for his prophecy.

And the last interactions between them are short and a bit cold Naruto only talking briefly with her.

But 628 seems to offer an indication that we are going to find out what's going on with Naruto and Sakura. Now back to Naruto's state. He is trying to fight the entire war all by himself and seeing that the Juubi should be stronger than him and the Kyuubi also Obito and Madara are both powerful shinobi odds aren't in his favor. Now we see the destruction that the Juubi did and I think everybody assumes that Naruto just overclocked his Kyuubi cloak on everyone so he can try and save them from the blast.

The result of that is moot but honestly this chapter really changed perspective. At first I thought Madara was retreating yet he managed to repel Naruto and now Naruto is back on the defensive, meaning the Hokage reinforcements are truly needed.



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:06 PM

QUOTE (KnS @ Apr 26 2013, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have another comment on re-direct.

In terms of assigning blame or bad judgment during her confession, I bristle when all the blame is heaped on Sakura when Naruto owns at least half of their miscommunication problems.

Naruto had a chance to say something meaningful to Sakura during her confession -- to admit what's in his heart -- to admit what Kishimoto showed the audience through the first heartbreakingly hopeful panel of Naruto's face when Sakura said she loved him -- and yet he didn't. Instead he chose to focus on her feelings for Sasuke -- AGAIN. He chose to squelch his own feelings -- AGAIN. He needs a swift kick in his little self-deprecating butt.

The closest Naruto got to admitting anything was when Sakura said, "If you don't like me then just say so!" and he didn't deny it. Again, the message is (or should be) clear to the audience how he feels, but Naruto is allowing Sasuke to run the show in absentia.

I so want to HULKSMASH Sasuke. I'm so tired of him being the emo poison pill that ruins everything, lol. (Speaking of Kishimoto's intentional frustrations....)


It makes wonder why does Kishimoto have to write borderline gay romance between hashirama,madara (i mean at least small flashback of mito was never shown sleep.gif) sasuke and naruto?

yeah sasuke just feels like a character development destroyer......

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:15 PM

QUOTE (rikakim94 @ Apr 26 2013, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It makes wonder why does Kishimoto have to write borderline gay romance between hashirama,madara (i mean at least small flashback of mito was never shown sleep.gif) sasuke and naruto?

yeah sasuke just feels like a character development destroyer......


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:27 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Apr 26 2013, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
for attracting yaoi fangirls which are a lot of MILIONS in Jaoan.

Or because that's how Japanese find strong friendship between best friends (guy friends)

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:39 PM

QUOTE (MangaReader @ Apr 26 2013, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or because that's how Japanese find strong friendship between best friends (guy friends)


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:51 PM

QUOTE (MangaReader @ Apr 26 2013, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or because that's how Japanese find strong friendship between best friends (guy friends)


I can't help but feel that there's an element of impracticality and detachment from reality with the Sasuke and Naruto relationship. Of course I suppose for some people what positive interactions they had with each other at the beginning of the manga is significant enough to override the exceedingly large amounts of negativity that has been generated since Sasuke's defection.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE (Atheck @ Apr 26 2013, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't help but feel that there's an element of impracticality and detachment from reality with the Sasuke and Naruto relationship. Of course I suppose for some people what positive interactions they had with each other at the beginning of the manga is significant enough to override the exceedingly large amounts of negativity that has been generated since Sasuke's defection.

You know fan girls, even if it's Yaoi, they love the "bad boy" couples

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:32 PM

QUOTE (Dkey @ Apr 26 2013, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Clearly Kishi wedged a wall between after the confession.

But this wall is manifested as Naruto's going into a brooding mode.

So poison finally gets to Naruto he faints

He recovers somewhat but isn't quite healed so he doesn't start a conversation with Sakura. Sakura on her side feeling guilty also doesn't say anything.

When Kiba starts to rant about the latter events, here Naruto somewhat jumps to rescue Sakura but it's similar to the deflecting with the bridge builder.

Afterwards he meets the others and insists that he be the one who fights Sasuke. Here finally we get Sakura's thoughts she being the only one to witness and remembers what Naruto said about fighting with Sasuke.

Both were happy that Tsunade woken up from her coma but Sakura had to tell everybody and Naruto got summoned for his prophecy.

And the last interactions between them are short and a bit cold Naruto only talking briefly with her.

But 628 seems to offer an indication that we are going to find out what's going on with Naruto and Sakura. Now back to Naruto's state. He is trying to fight the entire war all by himself and seeing that the Juubi should be stronger than him and the Kyuubi also Obito and Madara are both powerful shinobi odds aren't in his favor. Now we see the destruction that the Juubi did and I think everybody assumes that Naruto just overclocked his Kyuubi cloak on everyone so he can try and save them from the blast.

The result of that is moot but honestly this chapter really changed perspective. At first I thought Madara was retreating yet he managed to repel Naruto and now Naruto is back on the defensive, meaning the Hokage reinforcements are truly needed.


Wasn't he addressing Sakura in a positive way when he saved her and shizune from the two zetsu clones?

I mean they are still close friends if Sakura can read naruto well enough from this past chapter, besides remember, they are at war, they don't have time to just sit down and talk stuff out so conveniently unless the action stops for a moment or something. I mean if the ten tails goes into cocoon form or something before its true form, then they can get a small break in the action kinda like from 614-616.

Besides Naruto isn't really the guy to be keeping a grudge, he is just focused on all that was entrusted to him so its kinda obvious that he needs to be focused on the task at hand rather than love. He is fighting for everything including his friends (as the last chapter said) but this may be starting to war down, his 9T mode is running out as Sakura worried and Kurama confirmed. There may be some event to come when someone else tells Naruto exactly what Itachi warned him about, not to do everything alone. Some have speculated that someone (maybe Sakura) will assist him in some event or in some way that gets this message to him, to trust and believe in others as they do in him. Some think that Sakura's will use her perfect chakra control, go right up to him and stabilize it putting herself in danger and him warning her but she would stick there by him telling him some simple explanation like "Its not just your job" or "I said next time we would do it together." These seem like a longshot but they may come. Still Sakura is a main character so she will have more interaction with Naruto and even after all the events from the reunion to now, Naruto and Sakura are still the closest of friends. Its just no matter the situation they still come out strong in their relation. Sakura never thought any differently of Naruto in the 4 tails event, I'm sure Naruto has or would forgive Sakura after the confession especially after hearing Sai's explanation especially when it was for his sake. Heck we can use the same selfish argument with Sakura and Naruto from the last chapter as many NH fans have been attributing between Naruto and Hinata, I mean Sakura did say the promise she put on Naruto was selfish and she just wanted to right a wrong. Even if its brought up, it would not be surprising if Naruto was never even mad or forgave her. It makes no sense for him to stay mad or just be over her, would ruin so many aspects of his character and literally just make NH a second choice and make Hinata nothing more than a pairing fodder character, least Sakura has some struggles emotionally on her own part even for loving another.

NaruSaku is around for development, it can happen, its not finished but one thing which is confirmed Naruto and Sakura are still the closest of friends.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 12:03 AM

Wow you guys move fast lol. I'll have to catch up. But first...

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I so want to HULKSMASH Sasuke. I'm so tired of him being the emo poison pill that ruins everything, lol. (Speaking of Kishimoto's intentional frustrations....)


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She did think, she made the confession because it was the only way to pacifically way out of that situation, then she was forced to take drastic measures while her plan B was something she did not think, the part where she made the confession was the part where she thought carefully and the part where she tried to kill Sasuke is the same thing that Hinata did for Naruto, uncareless and unthinkable plan.

It doenst matter if it would lead to a good or a bad ending, Hinata or Sakura could even had died but this dont change the difference of their thoughts.


Good point, she did obviously think about. But I still think she thought about it in the wrong way. Hinata also had a little time to think before jumping in that fight and we saw what happened. My point is she is close to Naruto and she has acknowledged several times that he isn't a little kid anymore, but she still protects him like he IS that little kid. Don't get me wrong. Giving up in the Chuunin Exam was AWESOME on her part and I loved it. But it made sense at the time because she didn't understand who Naruto was completely then.

By the Kage Summit she had seen how much he has grown and maybe should've jumped to the conclusion that if he can handle being a genin Hokage or the death of Jiraiya or a gang of S-class criminals after him(and one of them attacking his home), then he can handle a frank discussion about Sasuke. The fact that she didn't I think shows that in that situation her worry(and regret) DID cause her thinking to be waaaaay off(just like Hinata's concern and regret(not telling her feelings) caused her to make a stupid decision. Though yes her decision was a LOT more selfish than Sakura's).

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Very nice response.

I'll just tackle everything by paragraph adding my two cents. ^^

As far as Sakura confessing while trying to show Naruto that Sasuke means nothing to her anymore, I think she went about it wrong. It's really hard to pinpoint whether her feelings for him were real or not given she..

1. She basically retaliated herself when Naruto told her she was lying to herself.

2. Didn't she blush while giving her confession also? I think she did. I've never seen someone blush while giving a fake confession before.


Thank you! I think that too. And about the 2nd point yeah she did blush and smile you know what else? Sai didn't say it was fake ;P.

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I feel like even though she may not have been entirely sure about her feelings at that time, it's possible her subconscious may have and so we get what we got here.

I also feel like Kishi used this opportunity in a very smart way. It caused quite a bit on controversy. The BEST way would of been what you've noted. I bolded it for you so you could see, but he went with the most controversial way as to not set up a canon relationship. What it did do for us was set in stone as to what could be FINALLY. I personally don't understand why people took Naruto's word for what happened there, and not BOTH. As Sakura stated, she's the only one who knows what's going on in her head. If she hadn't retaliated, I would of likely fully believed Naruto but that wasn't the case at all so we're left with opposing individuals here. Once again, their communication isn't where it should be when it comes to their desires and such. Hopefully, Kishi delves into this sometime in the future. I was actually thinking Sakura MAY start being vocal pretty soon if she does assist Naruto. Here's a scenario I thought of yesterday.


Understandable. She hasn't given ANY hint whatsoever that she only sees Naruto as a friend(notable for a fandom that really likes direct/indirect statments and thoughts to decide who likes who). There is 540, but idk Hinata was all 'we have to protect Naruto!' and now look at who's protecting who(she TRIED in 614 but then lol death happened)? So I'm taking that with a grain of salt lol.

Ah the author trying to keep suspense up. I can believe that because if the story went a little bit different, something else would be keeping them apart. I don't think I've ever seen anything ever that was long and had the main couple get together in the beginning or middle. Except in fanfiction. But honestly I heard once that some advice for authors is to keep the main pairing apart for as long as possible because if you get them together TOO soon they will get boring and you have to give them conflict that might make things worse. Not true all the time, but it can happen.

Sai should also be accounted for since I noticed he also believed Sakura when she said she loves Naruto. Her little laugh and 'what are you talking about?' was suspicious but then she did show some righteous anger when Naruto flat out accused her of lying which leads me to believe that the nervousness really was because it wasn't going as planned and not because she was really lying. And of course she never confirmed if she was.



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Naruto's chakra acts up, and so Sakura goes in to assist him by balancing it out or something like that. At this time, Sakura says something like, she's always wanted to help him and assist him but she never felt like she could do enough. Naruto then reaffirms her that just her being their by his side has always been enough for him. ^^


And then they kick ass.

Seriously that would be good! It'd be funny too if he was trying to tell her to get back so she doesn't get hurt or something and then she yells at him like classic Sakura lol.

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I'm more anxious than anything to see what their talk will be like on the battlefield or after and hopefully with it, many things spring to the surface.


I'm hoping they get a few seconds to talk on the battlefield as well but the Ten Tails probably won't stand still to let them talk like Obito and Madara do.

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As far as them learning from their mistakes, I definitely agree with you. I don't think Hinata actually LEARNED anything about Naruto. The only thing they truly share IMO that stands out to be is the nindo in which she got from him. Other than that, I can't really think of anything else. We need a Hinata fan here for that one. LOL


YES because I am drawing blanks here.

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Sakura sees Naruto on a completely different level. While he's been a source of inspiration for her, she's also learned about him, and wishes to assist him in anyway she can. She believes in his dreams, and wants to be there through the hardships in his life. Tis why I find their relationship to be more genuine given the lengths they'd go for one another. I think she learned from her mistake. We'll have to see in the coming chapters when she becomes a bit more prominent in the chapters/story. Seems like she's making her way there again right now.


That's why I love their relationship so much! And yeah she definitely has to understand that they can SHARE burdens instead of trying to covertly protect each other all of the time(hopefully she gets Naruto to realize that in this battle). She better remember how the confession went next time she tries to speak him. Because he won't play that game this time lolI hope we see his thoughts on it now. I want that a lot..

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Sai played a very nice part in the chapters after the Pain Arc, because he was sort of able to propel them forward though it wasn't allll positive, realizations were in fact made at the end of it all. That's the time I thought about when I was yapping about her concerns for him, but even then, he cut her off, and thought she was talking about Gaara. It's almost like he puts himself down when it comes to her in a way if you're understanding what I'm saying. Like he refuses to believe her focus can on him. Ultimately, they both still have a bit of work to do, but that's why I like them so much. They're not perfect. ^^

Annddddd yes, I understood what you meant about the basketballs. It's about time Kishimoto brings things to the light given the manga is nearing it's end. ^^ I look forward to hearing Sakura tell Naruto just how far SHE'D go for him. They'd go past the limit for one another at this point, and they don't even truly know it.

I think talking about this, I appreciate Sakura's concern in the recent chapter a bit more than I initially did.


Sai is boss because he knows all, sees all, and tells all. I get that. I wonder if the hospital scene affected him waaaaaay more than he let on(like he wonders if Sakura would ever cry over him the way cries over Sasuke). And then when they failed to grab Sasuke the first time all of those insecurities kinda just took over his mind. Sakura's definitely going to have to take the first step here. Unless we(and Sakura) get a surprise and Naruto makes the first move.

Lol good! I was worried if it made any sense when I typed it up. Yes because she's knows pretty darn well how far he'd go for her. And as far as he cares, Sakura just being by his side is plenty far. But if she can show him how she does more then...yeah.

Yay! Wonderful biggrin.gif!

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 12:13 AM

QUOTE (Kadardi @ Apr 26 2013, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Good point, she did obviously think about. But I still think she thought about it in the wrong way. Hinata also had a little time to think before jumping in that fight and we saw what happened. My point is she is close to Naruto and she has acknowledged several times that he isn't a little kid anymore, but she still protects him like he IS that little kid. Don't get me wrong. Giving up in the Chuunin Exam was AWESOME on her part and I loved it. But it made sense at the time because she didn't understand who Naruto was completely then.

By the Kage Summit she had seen how much he has grown and maybe should've jumped to the conclusion that if he can handle being a genin Hokage or the death of Jiraiya or a gang of S-class criminals after him(and one of them attacking his home), then he can handle a frank discussion about Sasuke. The fact that she didn't I think shows that in that situation her worry(and regret) DID cause her thinking to be waaaaay off(just like Hinata's concern and regret(not telling her feelings) caused her to make a stupid decision. Though yes her decision was a LOT more selfish than Sakura's).

I dont think while her approach maybe wrong to you but Naruto needed a reality check and also Sakura wasnt trying to protect Naruto she was trying to do the "right thing" what made her to took that decision was the fact that Naruto loved her, she made the confession and she put all of her faith on it because if it fails she would had to do some unthinkable thing, then she comes with her last hour plan to kill Sasuke, since the confession failed the only thing she think she could do was to cut her bond with Naruto, because she thought she only bring burden to Naruto along with Sasuke, so she decided to kill Sasuke lifting his burden, she thought she was an horrible person and then she comes up with killing Sasuke and make Naruto hate her forever since redeeming Sasuke is Naruto's most prized objective.

Also i disagree that she thinks Naruto is a little kid, she just doesnt want to hurt him it's different, she knows all the bad stuff that Naruto is going though and understands it, she just doesnt want to be another burden to him.


The negative part of this arc is that still Sakura didnt pointed a single reason to love Sasuke just that, her confession to Sasuke she didnt pointed out and at the most desperate time still didnt pointed out a reason.
it's like someome who got brainwashed and tries to convince himself that it's in love with that person.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 April 2013 - 12:19 AM.

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