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#18041 Elicit

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:09 PM

Before in the Kage Summit arc: She wants to save Sasuke from the darkness because she loves him!

 

Now: She feels that it's her duty to save him from the darkness because she is a kind girl.

 

How could this actually be interpreted as a "more matured love" rather than "her romantic feelings for Sasuke are dwindling"? People are crazy.



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Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:28 PM

No matter how its argued though,

 

This is proof that Sakura isn't the same Sasuke fangirl many always argue she was, rather as many fans try to invoke the she loves sasuke argument, well now this is proof she is capable of change, that she is still changing her feelings as she has been for a long time. Many fans for the longest time acted like it was some natural law of the universe that said Sakura had to love Sasuke, no such law exists. Yet many are saying this is proof of sealing SS as one of the pairings which is completely false, it doesn't focus on her feelings for naruto or sasukes to her now does it? The whole concept of people thinking that SS is somehow assured when the main purpose of Kakashis input to her is that she has changed, her old feelings are not what they once were, saying she cannot change or will still and always love sasuke is basically going against the entire aspect of this.

 

Its no surprise that Sakura has changed her view towards sasuke, ever since 540 and more recently with 635, even in the same chapter, 635 otherwise resurfaced here with a notion of just what is this goal she is suspicious of? Otherwise this is proof that Sakura has changed, she still has feelings for Sasuke, but the feelings she used to have are not what they once were. Its just if she already loved Sasuke to the point of fangirling and even wanting to help in his revenge, then what could possibly entail her having more feelings for the guy  than she did when she was younger? If she matured in her love for Sasuke then what exactly matured? Does she know Sasuke? Did she ever have some meaningful mutual event with him? Did she empahtize with Sasuke? This is what makes just too many loose ends, what exactly could her new feelings be if they are somehow more positive despite the majority of the manga showing it as some antagonizing aspect on her? I mean Sakura is forgiving of Sasuke like Naruto is as well, no surprise there. After the land of iron events Naruto gave her the hope that team 7 could find resolution and well just having trust in that he could be redeemed is part of it, but this by no means is just Sakura will always love Sasuke no questions asked, no considerations to the mistrust and suspcison. Really if Kakashi's words are serious and what she once felt was difference, then lets do a simple equation, she used to love sasuke, love as in past tense, so if she used to love him, for just a generalist arguement, a generalist answer would be so simple, if Sakura loved sasuke in the past and to kakashi its no longer this same feeling, then it has to be simple, the answer is NOT LOVE, the real degree varies but in this case I would say she has feelings for him but also doesnt trust him and yet even here, I still cannot see how SS could come when this event didnt event help it, rather this just proves that Sakura is capable of change, she isnt loving of Sasuke as much as every SS fan thought she would when he came to the battlefield last year, this entire past year, almost back to the point of when we got 631 last years may when Sasuke returned, she was cautious and untrusting of Sasuke, just given Kakashi's words doesnt mean its all handy and sunshine. I mean again, that same chapter, Kakashi followed by Sakura asks what his real goal is and it hasnt even been a day in the manga since this happened, only a couple hours at best. Naruto and Obito were fighting for hours when it was still daylight and it was nighttime when the edo tensei released and the ten tails awakened, if anything the time between obito and madara fights were maybe only an hour or so give or take and now its early morning or something. If she was distrustful of Sasuke then, its not going to be all peaches and cream right then and there. The whole aspect of Sakura doesnt trust Sasuke is still there.

 

But otherwise, no matter how its argued, Sakura isnt stuck on Sasuke, its utterly proven today that she isnt just some fangirl or just going to love him no questions asked. Sakura has changed as kakashi said she did, she can still have feelings for him, thats perfectly reasonable, but she also doesnt trust him. The best thing to say right now is that her attitude towards sasuke is NOT LOVE, the degree of this ranges from the remnants of the old feelings she had for him, now on a smaller scale but also to distrusting him knowing that some other motive exists and this will rise again. Really for any SS fans that read this, I would just want to ask, this other motive of Sasukes we have yet to see, if it entails harming others, specifically Naruto then how would this impact Sakura? This old arguement of Sakura, how would she deal with Sasuke the guy she "loves" harming Naruto the guy she "supports?" Obviously should a conflict like this occur, Sakura isnt just going to let Naruto get hurt, she will do something and its otherwise not going to be supportive for sasuke.



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Posted 07 May 2014 - 11:59 PM

I thought you guys were making crazy assumptions regarding SS's reactions so I went to some English sites like Narutoforums to lurk.


Da kitten did I just read!?

Sasuke was blushing to Sakura's reaction in the flashback?

We got another confirmation that the one guy for Sakura is meant to be Sasuke?

I can't believe we're reading the same manga. No wonder you guys were so annoyed. I'll stay in the Japanese sites for now. My brain just suffered from a lot of mindkitten!
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Posted 08 May 2014 - 12:08 AM

I thought you guys were making crazy assumptions regarding SS's reactions so I went to some English sites like Narutoforums to lurk.


Da kitten did I just read!?

Sasuke was blushing to Sakura's reaction in the flashback?

We got another confirmation that the one guy for Sakura is meant to be Sasuke?

I can't believe we're reading the same manga. No wonder you guys were so annoyed. I'll stay in the Japanese sites for now. My brain just suffered from a lot of mindkitten!

I'm so sorry that you had to see that i know the feeling we all do :cry: SS makes me cry because i have never believed that people can be so stupid but they have proved me wrong every time  :cry:


Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 08 May 2014 - 12:08 AM.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 12:08 AM

I thought you guys were making crazy assumptions regarding SS's reactions so I went to some English sites like Narutoforums to lurk.


Da kitten did I just read!?

Sasuke was blushing to Sakura's reaction in the flashback?

We got another confirmation that the one guy for Sakura is meant to be Sasuke?

I can't believe we're reading the same manga. No wonder you guys were so annoyed. I'll stay in the Japanese sites for now. My brain just suffered from a lot of mindkitten!

 

Do please tell us, what news comes from the east?

 

What do the japanese have to say about this chapter, especially about Kakashi's comment of Sakura?



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 12:20 AM

Here is something new from SS apparently when Sasuke says to Naruto to not let his guard down in here  :

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Its because he's jealous that Sakura's paying attention to Naruto instead of him  :wot: .

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 12:47 AM

As Kevin O' Leary from the TV show" Shark Tank" would say" Stop the madness!"


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Posted 08 May 2014 - 02:08 AM

I don't really understand what's so difficult to understand what we learned from this chapter in terms of Team 7.

Naruto is getting closer to his dream of becoming Hokage, Sakura's undying love towards Sasuke is dead and it has been for some time now, and she still cares about Sasuke but as a friend just like Naruto. And Sasuke well Sasuke is exactly the same as he was in part 1, an a-hole. Once an a-hole always an a-hole.


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Posted 08 May 2014 - 02:32 AM

Narusaku Doujinshi After the war by LadyGT

 

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I think I just died here! This is so precious!!!!!  :love:


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Posted 08 May 2014 - 02:44 AM

 

Do please tell us, what news comes from the east?

 

What do the japanese have to say about this chapter, especially about Kakashi's comment of Sakura?

 

In the spoiler thread people aren't talking about pairings. The talk is mostly about:
-Kakashi bashing (like 65% of the posts)
-Medics losing their purpose due to Naruto's new power
-New Team 7 battle (how can Kakashi and Sakura battle alongside Naruto and Sasuke?)
-Incoming Sakura hostage moment that parallels Rin's?
-Poor Sai (left out of Team 7)
 
Last I've checked I only saw three pairing related comments, which were about Sakura moving on from Sasuke. But that's about it. 
 
To be honest, I don't think the Japanese fandom really cares that much about pairings (or either that it's obvious that it really isn't worth for discussion). 

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:03 AM

Here is something new from SS apparently when Sasuke says to Naruto to not let his guard down in here  :

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Its because he's jealous that Sakura's paying attention to Naruto instead of him  :wot: .

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Oh but didn't you see that Kishi purposely change the bubble of Sakura talking in  the  flashback compared to that time, so we can see how much Sasuke was red because of what she said about him. (it's ironical, i'm quoting SS fans)


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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:06 AM

In the spoiler thread people aren't talking about pairings. The talk is mostly about:
-Kakashi bashing (like 65% of the posts)
-Medics losing their purpose due to Naruto's new power
-New Team 7 battle (how can Kakashi and Sakura battle alongside Naruto and Sasuke?)
-Incoming Sakura hostage moment that parallels Rin's?
-Poor Sai (left out of Team 7)
 
Last I've checked I only saw three pairing related comments, which were about Sakura moving on from Sasuke. But that's about it. 
 
To be honest, I don't think the Japanese fandom really cares that much about pairings (or either that it's obvious that it really isn't worth for discussion).


Yeah, poor Sai. He fell off the face of the planet. Everyone got a power-up except him. Maybe someone will pass him an Etch-e-sketch to help him out.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:27 AM

Yeah, poor Sai. He fell off the face of the planet. Everyone got a power-up except him. Maybe someone will pass him an Etch-e-sketch to help him out.

If you mean by Team 7's members then kind of yes, because well, Kakashi went downgrade. If you mean by all, technically he did get one when he drew art of gods. His is pending on art more so than power-up or increase attributes. It's like RPG, works differently than just train to get stronger.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:49 AM

Yeah, poor Sai. He fell off the face of the planet. Everyone got a power-up except him. Maybe someone will pass him an Etch-e-sketch to help him out.

 

In Sai's case, Kishi doesn't care enough to even realize how unfortunate he is. His last emotional moment probably ends with that, "I'm a member of team 7 too!" in chapter 633. 
 
Maybe Kishi will realize how unfortunate Sai is and follow up after he receives hate messages from Sai fans. I can easily imagine Kishi trying to force the Sai fans to satisfy themselves with a single panel.
 
Naruto: You're a member of team 7 too!
Sai: (Thank you very much Naruto. I am happy that I am a member of team 7)
 
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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:55 AM

You know what I want. Madara taunting Kakashi for having normal eyes.

Madara: Wait, what should I even fear of you? You don't have the Sharingan. So what are you going to do??? *pokes Kakashi's nose*
Kakashi grabs his hand and breaks it.
Madara: God almighty!!! I tap!

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:56 AM

Sai is sidekick version of sasuke. The role that sasuke can't become.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:57 AM

Yeah, poor Sai. He fell off the face of the planet. Everyone got a power-up except him. Maybe someone will pass him an Etch-e-sketch to help him out.

Replace Sasuke with with Sai and I'll actually start liking team 7.


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Posted 08 May 2014 - 04:04 AM

Replace Sasuke with with Sai and I'll actually start liking team 7.

Because team 7 is too big for narusasu, one of them need to go.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 04:18 AM

Are people really still hung up on SS? Jeez, I really thought it couldn't be any clearer. Kakashi straight up says it different, sigh….lets just bask in NS glory people



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 04:42 AM

Narusaku Doujinshi After the war by LadyGT

 

http://ladygt.tumblr...y-ladygt-naruto

 

I think I just died here! This is so precious!!!!!  :love:

her art is better than the original






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