And you know that how exactly? I simply take what's shown in the manga and build a hypothesis out of these facts. Accusing me of replacing facts with so called 'headcanon' is simply another way of calling me biased or even a liar and i really don't think that i, as a scientist/engineer, can actually afford to be one . Unemployment sucks...
Don't you guys learn how to read and interpret literature in school anymore? I mean what i did was a basic method of interpreting certain scenes/information and build a logical hypothesis that would be able to explain other, less clear, points. And i say hypothesis, not theory because there is a difference....
A good example would be you saying that Kushina not using Kyuubis chakra is unlikely as she was a shinobi during war time. You never tried to strengthen your position with facts. You just said it was 'unlikely' without explaining why...
Noone in Konoha had an idea on how to try to train a Jinchuuriki (seen on Jiraiyas extemely hazardous training method) or that during war time Jinchuurikis would logically be prime targets and would therefore be held back for most of the war (Koharu and Homura tried to get Tsunade to keep Naruto in the village, it is therefore logical that they would have done the same with Kushina and the Sandaime. Danzo would most likely hold the opposite stance during war time but we have no evidence of that).
Or that Kushina was never known for beeing the Jinchuuriki no Kyuubi but for 'her beauty and unique Ninjutsu' making. Beeing a Jinchuuriki, especially when well known, would be something important to mention, wouldn't it.
All those pieces make it rather unlikely that Kushina and Mito's identity as Jinchuuriki were known to the general populace.
And regardinh these feelingg Gaara: As i said, there were Jinchuuriki before him that lost control so Gaara had to live under the stigma of beeing a 'moster in disguise' or 'a lit exploding tag'. I re-read the parts and i couldn't find any evidence of him beeing hated. From the beginnning they were afraid of him. True hate can only come when you know that your actions wouldn't have dire consequences aka death. You seem to confuse actions made out of bots.
When Gaara tried to connect with people they would rather stutter and try to get away from him as they were afraid. If they would truly hate him they would simply shout at him to piss off or even get physical.
That's also the difference between Gaara and Naruto. Naruto could be safely hated as they never knew something like an insane Jinchuuriki or had to fear Naruto becoming violent/murderous. You could say that fear and hatred were existing as seperate entities.
Gaara on the other hand was known to kill, even if it was accidentally, and they already had previous experience with Jinchuuriki so they only feared him. The hatred came through their fear of him so the hatred was attached to fear instead of beeing seperate as with Naruto.
Can't you just consider Kishimoto didn't planned in making Kushina a jinchuuriki or even make her at all in the beginning and then every prejudice against jinchuurikis he estabilished early on just slipped his mind later in the story when he decided to create/ introduce her?
It seems more likely to me than your "logical deductions" that Kishimoto thought of everything beforehand and made everything fall perfectly into place
I mean, its simple:
-We have no CANON indication the village in general knew or didnt knew about Kushina therefore your argument that they didn't knew because it wasnt mentioned falls flat
-You even said your entire point a hypothesis, and as you might know the hypothesis isn't a fact it isn't confirmed... futhermore just the FACT that you had to make a hypothesis on this concluded matter shows kishimoto failed to clear something in this story. in this case Kushina and Mito relations as a jinchuuriki of the leaf
- You can say that its unlikely that Kushina and Mito place as jinchuuriki were known to the general populace, but really, you have almost no grounds to say that considering Kishi's known story of asspulls and horrible writing, he might just as well let the whole estabilished aspect of the jinchuuriki pass through his mind
- Headcanon is exaclty what you did, I'm not offending you or anything like that but you really used your own interpretation of something and tried to pass that as a fact. But no...the only fact there is , is that Kishimoto failed to clear this whole matter in the story
in sum my main point is: why we are having a discussion like this in first place?
KIshi didn't clear enough how or if Mito and Kushina were known as jinchuurikis, exactly like he didn't clear up some matters about the uchiha involvement in the kyuubi attack
Now about Gaara, well we know by Lady Chiyo how the sand used to treat jinchuurikis and such, they were a war weapon for them. Gaara's case was exceptional because if I'm not mistaken he was the first jinchuuriki to stay inside the village, I have no problem in agreeing on the whole matter of "fear leading to hate" with you
Now about Naruto, I think it's pretty clear that he was hated, it's very clear that this hate came because of the kyuubi attack, the villagers of course, blamed Naruto for it, this fear they had of the fox they caused them to hate. So I disagree with you on the fear and hate in Naruto's case being separate.
Edited by Nar123, 20 April 2015 - 06:32 PM.