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#18001 Gojira

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:17 AM

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No I meant Sasuke when someone passes out like that for as long as he has and doesn't regain consciousness, his brain would no think too good.

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#18002 Otaru

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:27 AM

But... Sasuke or Naruto it's just the same. Don't expect scientific logic. Look what Madara did with Kakashi's eye...


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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:29 AM

But... Sasuke or Naruto it's just the same. Don't expect scientific logic. Look what Madara did with Kakashi's eye...

Maybe he'll start screaming now. Lol. I mean damn, that have to hurt like hell. I mean it remind me of that reaction of being plucked out from Kill Bill.

Anyway, yeah, CPR could have prevented or just let us not think how. Well, I'm not complaining.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:17 AM

901 pages and NS is just around the bend. NH and SS are dead. nothing is standing in our way. Ladies and Gents, I am proud to say that the end is near! (for the pairing war). problem is the NH fans aren't going out without a good fight. so lets hold on a bit longer for NS to go canon.


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#18005 Gojira

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:24 AM

But... Sasuke or Naruto it's just the same. Don't expect scientific logic. Look what Madara did with Kakashi's eye...


Its not a matter of scientific logic its a matter of common sense, Kishi had Sakura give Naruto CPR under the apparent false impression that he needed it.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 03:36 AM

SAKURA!!! Please for the love of GOD and all that is righteous punch Madara in the face!!!!! XD lol

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 04:55 AM

Madara will become a good USB producer in the future. I mean just look at how easily he took out Kakashi's eye and plugged it in his own socket.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 06:20 AM

Chapter out on mangareader


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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:32 AM

Hm...

 

I feel like a song coming along. It goes like this...

 

Na na na na. Na na na na. SasuSaku. Goodbye.



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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:47 AM

Darkrers better read the new chapter. He's the one that keeps arguing that Sakura still loves Sasuke romantically.


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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:58 AM

I can't believe anime got it right.



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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:59 AM

After reading the latest chapter SS is officially dead. Yesssss 


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Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:34 AM

I think Kakashi should have said directly "You don't love Sasuke anymore" in order for SS fans to understand his words; Because it didn't change anything for them, it's still "Kakashi understood that Sakura's love for Sasuke is now mature and stronger, that she's not just some fan girl anymore" Ugh it's really irritating me to read some things like that. Why can't they see that Kakashi simply said that she doesn't like him anymore, but she still cares about him?

What do we need for them to finally admit their ship is dead? The only thing needed after the Iron Land events were proofs of Sakura finally getting over her feelings for Sasuke, there was 540, 635 and now this! And this chapter is litterally saying her feelings for Sasuke aren't the same anymore. I'm so tired of other pairing fans. I think from now on I won't go on other site except this one. . 


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Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:56 AM

I can't believe anime got it right.

 

 

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:46 PM

I still find it confusing I mean yes you could make the argument that she doesn't love him anymore and that the statement "you still have feelings for him" could be taken differently (I guess, not sure though since that statement is rarely if ever not used in a romantic way) but the opposite is also true for all we know he could have been referring to Sakura not just being a fangirl anymore and just be referring to how her personality has matured compared to when she was....12

still if this is the end of SS.....it took long enough, I said this in another thread but after several years of being looked down on, 3 years of separation, atleast 3 murder attempts and basically being told that Sasuke is a bad person, Sakura finally got over him....holy crap I can only imagine how difficult NS would have been shaking SS off if Sasuke hadn't left the village. So I guess thanks Orochimaru for luring Sasuke away with candy in your shady little minivan.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 03:01 PM

I still find it confusing I mean yes you could make the argument that she doesn't love him anymore and that the statement "you still have feelings for him" could be taken differently (I guess, not sure though since that statement is rarely if ever not used in a romantic way) but the opposite is also true for all we know he could have been referring to Sakura not just being a fangirl anymore and just be referring to how her personality has matured compared to when she was....12

still if this is the end of SS.....it took long enough, I said this in another thread but after several years of being looked down on, 3 years of separation, atleast 3 murder attempts and basically being told that Sasuke is a bad person, Sakura finally got over him....holy crap I can only imagine how difficult NS would have been shaking SS off if Sasuke hadn't left the village. So I guess thanks Orochimaru for luring Sasuke away with candy in your shady little minivan.

 

I'm sorry, but no. I am tired of people saying it is always up for interpretation and that it isn't what we think it is. Perhaps it is exactly as we think it is and not some deep undercover pro-SS moment.

Here are a few reasons:
1. Kakashi compares Sakura from part 1 to how she is now. He shows the scenes specifically her saying she wants Sasuke and she loves him more or less. (Or do we want to say that what her dream was was all a matter of interpretation as well?) He compares that to how she is now and how she has grown. Why would he make that comparison and show how things have changed if they actually didn't? He says "I reckon your feelings have changed." Which this goes right into point #...

 

2. You are either in love with someone or you are not. There is no such thing as being "more in love with someone." You can have feelings grow into love, but can't have love grow into more love. Love is ultimate form of feeling. Because Sakura has been confirmed to actually love Sasuke in part 1 and so many NH and SS fans try to push this down our throats, then that means only one change can occur: Falling OUT of love with someone. Your heart can change with who you love because of several reasons.

 

3. Caring about someone doesn't necessarily mean you are in love with someone. Feelings can also be platonic. Like "My feelings on Sasuke's character went from indifference to loathing."

 

4. The fact that Kakashi makes that comparison between Part 1 Sakura and Part 2 Sakura specifically thinking of the scene where he asked Sakura what her dream is makes me have no doubt that what kakashi meant was her love. If the flashback did not occur then maybe it would be ambiguous, but because he brings up that specific moment in time and used it as a comparison it is more reason to believe that he literally meant "You no longer love Sasuke."


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Posted 07 May 2014 - 03:35 PM

I can't believe anime got it right.

I really don't think they'd have Sakura say something like that without input from Kishi (even if it's a filler episode) because they'd have to retcon it :/

 

but who knows /shrug



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Posted 07 May 2014 - 03:57 PM

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 04:24 PM

Its not a matter of scientific logic its a matter of common sense, Kishi had Sakura give Naruto CPR under the apparent false impression that he needed it.

 

What are you talking about ? Sure Naruto needed CPR. This were not a false impression.

 

 

 

 

I'm sorry, but no. I am tired of people saying it is always up for interpretation and that it isn't what we think it is. Perhaps it is exactly as we think it is and not some deep undercover pro-SS moment.

Here are a few reasons:
1. Kakashi compares Sakura from part 1 to how she is now. He shows the scenes specifically her saying she wants Sasuke and she loves him more or less. (Or do we want to say that what her dream was all a matter of interpretation as well?) He compares that to how she is now and how she has grown. Why would make that comparison and show how things have changed if they actually didn't? He says "I reckon your feelings have changed." Which this goes right into point #...

 

2. You are either in love with someone or you are not. There is no such thing as being "more in love with someone." You can have feelings grow into love, but can't have love grow into more love. Love is ultimate form of feeling. Because Sakura has been confirmed to actually love Sasuke in part 1 and so many NH and SS fans try to push this down our throats, then that means only one change can occur: Falling OUT of love with someone. Your heart can change with who you love because of several reasons.

 

3. Caring about someone doesn't necessarily mean you are in love with someone. Feelings can also be platonic. Like "My feelings on Sasuke's character went from indifference to loathing."

 

4. The fact that Kakashi makes that comparison between Part 1 Sakura and Part 2 Sakura specifically thinking of of the scene where he asked Sakura what her dream is makes me have no doubt that what kakashi meant was her love. If the flashback did not occur, then maybe it would be ambiguous, but because he brings up that specific moment in time and used it as a comparison is more reason to believe that he literally meant "You no longer love Sasuke."

 

I agree so much.

I'm tired of this really... this manga is really simple and yet people keep to complicate it for it to look like what they want...


Edited by Otaru, 07 May 2014 - 04:29 PM.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 05:09 PM

It's hilarious how people had a certain expectation of SS having a moment and then it turns out it's the complete opposite of it.

 

The complete opposite.






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