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Posted 20 January 2015 - 05:16 AM

It would be anticlimatic if Lucy reaches Natsu...


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Posted 20 January 2015 - 10:33 PM

It would be anticlimatic if Lucy reaches Natsu...

I don't think so.
They will most likely make a promise with each other(to become strong).
And if you see the preview, next chapter is parting chapter. So they will meet and talk. Remember Lucy is second most important character and she's the narrator of the manga.

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Posted 20 January 2015 - 11:19 PM

I don't think so.
They will most likely make a promise with each other(to become strong).
And if you see the preview, next chapter is parting chapter. So they will meet and talk. Remember Lucy is second most important character and she's the narrator of the manga.

And? I said it would be anti climatic, not that it won't happen.


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Posted 21 January 2015 - 07:24 AM

And? I said it would be anti climatic, not that it won't happen.

Ok

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 05:34 PM

It wasn't who Natsu was revealed to be, it was who END was revealed to be. "Etherial Natsu Dragneel" is separate from Natsu, I guess.

 

I disagree, remember the first thing Zeref asked Natsu when he met him on Tenrou Island, he asked him if he was strong enough to defeat him yet, also Etherial is the name given to monsters created by Zetsu.

 

That  black dragon (Acnologia?) has two stories, one being that he was created by Zetsu, and the other that he turned into a dragon from using dragon force too much. I think those two diffrent theories, might be a clue as to who Natsu actually is. this could also be why Mashima is publishing the FT Zero arc, to give us a better understanding of what is going on.


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Posted 21 January 2015 - 08:17 PM

 
I disagree, remember the first thing Zeref asked Natsu when he met him on Tenrou Island, he asked him if he was strong enough to defeat him yet, also Etherial is the name given to monsters created by Zetsu.
 
That  black dragon (Acnologia?) has two stories, one being that he was created by Zetsu, and the other that he turned into a dragon from using dragon force too much. I think those two diffrent theories, might be a clue as to who Natsu actually is. this could also be why Mashima is publishing the FT Zero arc, to give us a better understanding of what is going on.

I should go back and check on that. That does seem to be the case.

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 08:42 PM

You know I heard a lot of people saying how Fairy Tail started going downhill with Tenrou Island Arc, and I mean it does have it's problems. However I still think it was good arc you can salvage things from it, and it is an important arc for the series because you've got the introduction to Zeref's character and Acnologia.  


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Posted 21 January 2015 - 08:55 PM

You know I heard a lot of people saying how Fairy Tail started going downhill with Tenrou Island Arc, and I mean it does have it's problems. However I still think it was good arc you can salvage things from it, and it is an important arc for the series because you've got the introduction to Zeref's character and Acnologia.  

I thought the same for a bit. It was the first real hyped arc because it has a lot of connections to the guild itself and it was like old meets new in terms of master. The disappointing part is that it was the first to me that everything will always seem to go an easy route, let alone asspull. It was getting repetitive with that approach. But it is true that it did introduce a lot of main story element that pretty much the final boss of all.

Next arc, while it was fun, didn't help but to bring newer expectations and still contain asspulls and usual story structure. Then the latest arc happened and for the most part, it changed the way how it was presented. The beginning started off really strong, though middle has some hiccups, especially the explosion that overdid One Piece moment, but the end and battles themselves have developments and meanings to the story, which is great. By the end, regardless that the ending is bad in terms of heroes, it was satisfying to the point I look forward to the next arc. It's finally moving in a positive direction. Not to say before were, but this one has something exciting in store.

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:23 PM

You know I heard a lot of people saying how Fairy Tail started going downhill with Tenrou Island Arc, and I mean it does have it's problems. However I still think it was good arc you can salvage things from it, and it is an important arc for the series because you've got the introduction to Zeref's character and Acnologia.  

 

The problem with Tenrou Island was certain repeating factors reduced the impact of the content, for example, when Master went up against the Black Dragon, and it looked like he was ultimately sacrifice himself, only for him not to die, it set in everyones head how when something like this happens in the future, not to react the same way because you fully expect them to survive somehow, the same with when everything looks bleak, and the heroes look like they might lose, that arc pretty much set in stone the Nekama factor, and we expect them to dig deeper and win.

 

It's pretty much the main issue with the manga, it's not the actual story, but the way things turn around, the way the shock factor is dealt with is dissapointing, even Natsu's name reveal, doesn't have the same shock factor any more because I expect when we find out what Zeref meant, we'll learn it's not as exciting as we were led to beleive.


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Posted 21 January 2015 - 09:35 PM

 
The problem with Tenrou Island was certain repeating factors reduced the impact of the content, for example, when Master went up against the Black Dragon, and it looked like he was ultimately sacrifice himself, only for him not to die, it set in everyones head how when something like this happens in the future, not to react the same way because you fully expect them to survive somehow, the same with when everything looks bleak, and the heroes look like they might lose, that arc pretty much set in stone the Nekama factor, and we expect them to dig deeper and win.
 
It's pretty much the main issue with the manga, it's not the actual story, but the way things turn around, the way the shock factor is dealt with is dissapointing, even Natsu's name reveal, doesn't have the same shock factor any more because I expect when we find out what Zeref meant, we'll learn it's not as exciting as we were led to beleive.

I see the name reveal to be exciting for the case of what's next, since the story of last arc was focusing so much on the END to the point it was right there all this time, more so than anything else. The whole premise on END has been built to the point where Grey hates END, Zeref referring to Natsu that connects to the intro of his saying that Natsu isn't ready to defeat Zeref since it appears that he's the only one to do so, and so on. So the reveal is done, now I'm interested in how this plays out.

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 10:25 PM

I thought the same for a bit. It was the first real hyped arc because it has a lot of connections to the guild itself and it was like old meets new in terms of master. The disappointing part is that it was the first to me that everything will always seem to go an easy route, let alone asspull. It was getting repetitive with that approach. But it is true that it did introduce a lot of main story element that pretty much the final boss of all.

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I'd probably say right before Grimoire Hearts show up it was getting somewhere different. Natsu lost to Gildarts, and I felt like his character was going to go somewhere in that arc. However once Hades and his subjects came into play it went back to it's old way of storytelling. Though I guess you can say they're needed otherwise Acnologia wouldn't have shown up, but Idk that's one kinda hard. Do you feel like Acnologia would've shown up anyway without the presence of Hades?

 

 You already know my stance of the Grand Magic Games, and for the most part I still stand buy what I said about that arc. Then we got Tartarus and like you pointed out it was different because not only did you have the reunion between Natsu and Igneel, but then to have get killed by Acnologia who he only fought in half-dead state that was impressive. Some people with the recent chapter was like oh Natsu wasn't feeling all depressed or anything like he was at the end of 414 and in 415. My thing is look back at how Igneel gave those final words to Natsu before he disappeared, it's just progression from that chapter and for Natsu cause loosing his dad made him realize like Oh kitten everything I could another person important to me. So having him go on a journey is the best thing for Natsu's character not to mention that he's got a grudge towards Acnologia. When you look at Natsu in the beginning and Natsu at this point in the story things are kinda different for him now. Which is actually why I'm really looking forward to the next arc.  

 

 

 

 

The problem with Tenrou Island was certain repeating factors reduced the impact of the content, for example, when Master went up against the Black Dragon, and it looked like he was ultimately sacrifice himself, only for him not to die, it set in everyones head how when something like this happens in the future, not to react the same way because you fully expect them to survive somehow, the same with when everything looks bleak, and the heroes look like they might lose, that arc pretty much set in stone the Nekama factor, and we expect them to dig deeper and win.

 

It's pretty much the main issue with the manga, it's not the actual story, but the way things turn around, the way the shock factor is dealt with is dissapointing, even Natsu's name reveal, doesn't have the same shock factor any more because I expect when we find out what Zeref meant, we'll learn it's not as exciting as we were led to beleive.

 

That was my biggest complain when it comes to Tenrou Island because things would get hyped and then boom it would fall flat. Plus like you said The namaka factor was another thing that got a tad bit annoying. Though Grand Magic Games made it worse for me at least I remember I stopped reading the manga for a couple months before reading it again. 

 

 

Oh hey defintely it's an issue that the manga has been dealing with, and I've said before but when you read Rave Master you don't get that sensation like with Fairy Tail both in fan service and Nakama punch. And lets be real here the fanservice in Fairy Tail does get annoying once the timeskip hits at least, and that is sort of a complaint to say the least. Pre-timeskip it was okay, but after that ugh... and I know Rave Master had it too, but it was so minisuicle and it didn't matter here it's like you have Fanservice like every other chapter and yeah... I mean that's my stance on the fanservice aspect of the series.  


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Posted 21 January 2015 - 10:48 PM

I like the arc because a lot of characters got a development and yet, it's not the end, so you know there's more to come. Kind of hard to say who's MVP of the arc because many of them really got development. Sad to point out Wendy kills Sakura in pink hair badass display that only ask for more to come.

Anyway, I can only hope the momentum continues on with the next arc. So far, it's going well. Don't do the same mistake from before.

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 09:31 PM

This new chpater was so funny! It was good to see Gildarts again :D


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Posted 26 January 2015 - 09:33 PM

This new chpater was so funny! It was good to see Gildarts again :D


About damn time! Hopefully we get to the timeskip soon.

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 09:37 PM

 Sad to point out Wendy kills Sakura in pink hair badass display that only ask for more to come.

I was like "dude, why do cut your hair if you are going to let it be long again, wth".

 

About damn time! Hopefully we get to the timeskip soon.

And yesss, Lucy didn't get to say goodbye to Natsu. It's better that way.


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Posted 26 January 2015 - 09:39 PM

I was like "dude, why do cut your hair if you are going to let it be long again, wth".
 
And yesss, Lucy didn't get to say goodbye to Natsu. It's better that way.

Yeah, that was dumb. But my point is the use of pink hair between Sakura and her. She owns it now, because Sakura is sadly pathetic.

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 09:40 PM

I was like "dude, why do cut your hair if you are going to let it be long again, wth".
 

And yesss, Lucy didn't get to say goodbye to Natsu. It's better that way.


Personally, I had wished that Natsu had sent happy to deliver the letter to Lucy, and then had left both of them, with neither of them knowing until lucy had opened it.

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 09:43 PM

Yeah, that was dumb. But my point is the use of pink hair between Sakura and her. She owns it now, because Sakura is sadly pathetic.

Nope, because he let her long hair again  :hm: The one that own it is Mulan.

 

Personally, I had wished that Natsu had sent happy to deliver the letter to Lucy, and then had left both of them, with neither of them knowing until lucy had opened it.

Meh, not feeling it. Also, it's kind of OOC. Natsu never goes anywhere without Happy. 


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Posted 26 January 2015 - 09:45 PM

Pink hair, man. Just pink hair.

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 09:47 PM

Pink hair, man. Just pink hair.

Hahahahaha, I'm joking with you. 

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