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#1781 kirabook

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:17 PM

I think most of the people who knew about Konoha behind the scenes wouldn't mind the Danzo part at least....

All I can see for Sasuke is a wondering ninja, not good or bad, but people will leave him alone. The forever alone Last Uchiha who will probably end up being a legend somehow.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:26 PM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Jun 29 2012, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go see what Sasuke's entry says about Naruto by himself - I guarantee you it was /way/ more than whatever small tidbit it said about Sakura. After all, he did care about Sakura as a friend and comrade (recall that he did want to save her in the fight against Gaara, and thanked her for expressing care for him in her confession).

It was Naruto whom Orochimaru said was changing Sasuke's heart, and that it was Naruto that he needed to get Sasuke away from for his plan to succeed - not Sakura. And Orochimaru observed a lot of stuff between Sasuke and Sakura in FoD - just saying.

And if you look at Sakura's databook entry, that's the one that's filled with stuff that can't possibly be taken in a platonic way - stuff like "blossoming new feelings" and Naruto's growth causing her heart to beat fast, and her realizations about how Naruto has always been there for her. With that mountain of stuff in comparison to one small line about Sakura in Sasuke's older data book entry, there's no reason to worry.


Huh, you're right. I still think logic and facts on are on Narusaku side, but it just lately we haven't gotten a lot with Naruto and Sakura, not to mention that the Naruhina fan base is bigger than ours in the U.S.

I don't know what to feel about this whole pairing mess now, why can't it be obvious, like in other shows?

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:30 PM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Jun 29 2012, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Huh, you're right. I still think logic and facts on are on Narusaku side, but it just lately we haven't gotten a lot with Naruto and Sakura, not to mention that the Naruhina fan base is bigger than ours in the U.S.

I don't know what to feel about this whole pairing mess now, why can't it be obvious, like in other shows?

if it were obvious then alot of us would care and this website wouldnt exist as we know it.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:34 PM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Jun 29 2012, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why can't it be obvious, like in other shows?


after reading the manga as many times as i have, it is! I am just surprised by how many cannot or refuse to see it.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 29 2012, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if it were obvious then none of us would care and this website wouldnt exist as we know it.


Though I hate the pairing wars thing (hate it with a passion), I do like this site. This whole pairing thing did get many viewers attention, but I just don't think it was in the way the author intended.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:49 PM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Jun 29 2012, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Though I hate the pairing wars thing (hate it with a passion), I do like this site. This whole pairing thing did get many viewers attention, but I just don't think it was in the way the author intended.

At least this is interesting. And even if it were obvious, the opinions have SO much variety that there would still be debates.

Wars makes it sound like there is pure hatred in a large portion of each pairing side.






also how do you know naruhina is more popular in america? I thought narusaku was...

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:55 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 29 2012, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At least this is interesting. And even if it were obvious, the opinions have SO much variety that there would still be debates.

Wars makes it sound like there is pure hatred in a large portion of each pairing side.






also how do you know naruhina is more popular in america? I thought narusaku was...


I think that assumption is based on the amount of members involved in various forums around the internet. You'll see more NH members in a club than NS. You'll see NS bashed much more often by many NH fans than NS fans ganging up on NH.

This could simply because many NS fans don't get involved in the fandom. Even though I joined this forum years ago, it was really only a passing interest. I hadn't really known that there were pairings wars and things like that. I wasn't involved in the Naruto fandom at all other than fanart and fanfictions of Naruto and Minato family fics.

Many potential NS fans are probably like me. They just read the manga and believe what they want to believe without knowing or worrying about the other fandoms thoughts. I still don't care much at all about what other fandoms think and I occasionally comment on things from other fandoms if I happen to pass by, but I don't really like ranting to people with different beliefs from mine that way.

There is no official poll on which fandom is bigger in the western parts of the world in reality, but it's always assumed to be NH.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:57 PM

they are certainly more vocal on many sites as for more popular, it is hard to judge most people don't frequent internet sites as far as I know


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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:58 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 29 2012, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At least this is interesting. And even if it were obvious, the opinions have SO much variety that there would still be debates.

Wars makes it sound like there is pure hatred in a large portion of each pairing side.






also how do you know naruhina is more popular in america? I thought narusaku was...

Nope, NaruSaku is the least liked in the U.S as far as I know. I have no idea why there is so much hatred towards Sakura in the U.S. Her fanbase is really getting under my skin. I wish Kishi would get Naruto and Sakura together so these NH fans will shut up! Especially VJ, that dude needs to have his mouth taken off.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:59 PM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Jun 29 2012, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope, NaruSaku is the least liked in the U.S as far as I know. I have no idea why there is so much hatred towards Sakura in the U.S. Her fanbase is really getting under my skin. I wish Kishi would get Naruto and Sakura together so these NH fans will shut up! Especially VJ, that dude needs to have his mouth taken off.


Come on, please just enjoy the pairing you like. You should never want your pairing to happen just to push it into peoples' face. :/

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 11:18 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jun 29 2012, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that assumption is based on the amount of members involved in various forums around the internet. You'll see more NH members in a club than NS. You'll see NS bashed much more often by many NH fans than NS fans ganging up on NH.

This could simply because many NS fans don't get involved in the fandom. Even though I joined this forum years ago, it was really only a passing interest. I hadn't really known that there were pairings wars and things like that. I wasn't involved in the Naruto fandom at all other than fanart and fanfictions of Naruto and Minato family fics.

Many potential NS fans are probably like me. They just read the manga and believe what they want to believe without knowing or worrying about the other fandoms thoughts. I still don't care much at all about what other fandoms think and I occasionally comment on things from other fandoms if I happen to pass by, but I don't really like ranting to people with different beliefs from mine that way.

There is no official poll on which fandom is bigger in the western parts of the world in reality, but it's always assumed to be NH.


Bingo, that's what I think.

QUOTE (Verilance @ Jun 29 2012, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
they are certainly more vocal on many sites as for more popular, it is hard to judge most people don't frequent internet sites as far as I know


Another bingo.

So really it is just mostly people who go on the internet who make up most of the Naruhina fan base, and we all know how 'normal' people on internet are (I said so sarcastically).

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 11:51 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jun 29 2012, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Ino rightfully gave up on Sasuke in a romantic light long long ago...


It's really hard to tell. Ino was last seeing crying over Shikamaru's decision to put down Sasuke. As for Karin, she will try to kill Sasuke. But if Naruto redeems Sasuke. Then there's a chance that Karin will forgive Sasuke.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 12:02 AM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Jun 29 2012, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Though I hate the pairing wars thing (hate it with a passion), I do like this site. This whole pairing thing did get many viewers attention, but I just don't think it was in the way the author intended.



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Posted 30 June 2012 - 12:09 AM

Well, a lot of people believed that NaruSaku is the candidate to be canon. I think we all got caught up in this war is because the show is very popular worldwide. But, I do believe Sakura's reputation has grown better overtime despite some hatred to her. Sakura's role is something people is not used to or rather understand her purpose. It's not your typical shounen heroine and I really appreciate that.

Honestly, I do believe this pairing will be canon and the reward for it will be huge because of its setup. If it doesn't, then it's a swerve. It will be bad on Kishi part. If other pairings become canon, it will be treated as a fans ending, not his ending. He already created a huge buildup for Naruto's success by not giving up on anything. There are way too many reinforced evidences that Naruto will not stop his goal. For goodness sake, we now know that he still loves her, but the main problem is his problems (war and Sasuke) are stopping him. Sakura is heavily concerned on his words "When we fight, we will die".

I do doubt that NaruSaku is not going to be canon. Guys need to calm. Trust me. Time will come.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 12:33 AM

I think I know the main cause of Sakura's hatred in the US.

SHE SOUNDS SO ANNOYING I LITERALLY WANT TO TEAR MY EARS OFF! Which is why if it weren't for crunchy-roll I wouldn't be a fan of Naruto.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 12:59 AM

Hurr, I actually used to be ok with the english dub.... until I watched the japanese voices.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 01:21 AM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jun 29 2012, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hurr, I actually used to be ok with the english dub.... until I watched the japanese voices.


Watched the Japanese voices??? Don't you mean hear them? headscratch.gif
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 01:23 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 29 2012, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Watched the Japanese voices??? Don't you mean hear them? headscratch.gif


You know what I meant. sad.gif

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 01:23 AM

Yeah, english dub is meh to me. Sasuke voice seems to be on a lot of other guys. Naruto voice is meh and actually, I was hoping his voice changes timeskip. Oh well, I do wonder if Sakura's voice dub sounded sweet during all the necessary NaruSaku moments. Maybe I will find out when Movie 3 releases in US.

Back to topic, Naruto is in love with Sakura and NOTHING is going to change it.

You know, I just remember something. I may be late, but I reread the manga and now I remember why Naruto is so sad when asked if he confessed his love to her. I remember that Naruto promised her that Sasuke will never go to the dark side. She was very happy and Naruto kept her smiling. Then, of course, it happened. Now Naruto felt guilty for letting that smile disappear. It's no wonder Naruto got major upset when Sasuke was laughing after receiving CS2. Honestly, Naruto deserves her love. If it doesn't happen, it is, without a doubt, a bad move. Naruto is based on you, Kishi. Make him/yourself proud!

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 01:36 AM

found this great sig on mangahelpers credit to Ryr

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25% consists of insults and mud-slings

5% consists of genuine insights on the manga.


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