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[ShippudenGirl]

Of course, Strange-san; Kishimoto most likely intended on having Sakura move on from a Fangirl, you know, set an example. If Kishimoto kept Sakura a Fangirl for Sasuke then it'd turn into obsession... And I probably wouldn't be here now.
If Kishimoto wanted Sakura to always "love" Sasuke, then he wouldn't have made Sakura try to kill him.

Sakura's moved on. Naruto has taken his place in Sakura's heart; of course, after more then... Hm. I think they had 60-70 moments all together (It had all moments they ever had on the web once) so yes, Kishimoto isn't gonna drop all development and go by fan majority. Honestly, Kishimoto could care less of what fans think of his Character(s), he made that pretty clear when talking about Hinata in the interview.

I think we have all the moments because Kishimoto-sama, are praised author/drawer, wants NaruSaku dammit! kehehe...

Edit: Spelling errors.

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 24 April 2010 - 03:07 AM.

[Gravenimage]

I don't really know why i keep coming to this thread...anyways
the reason why i see NS is because the author has basically put way too many hints over the course of like...idk 400 chapters...?

Yes we know it's quite obvious because of the long development throughout the entire manga. If Kishi doesn't make N/S canon then what will be the point of all the hints and development??? it's like making people ask "okay what was the point of Yamato's speech if Naruto and Sakura didn't got together?" "what was the point of the intimate hug from Sakura at 450? "What was the point of Sakura's confession that it still proves that she was being honest?" and so and on.

[Shadowmoon~]

Yes, I agree with all of you.

With all the hints and the gradual development throughout the manga, NaruSaku is the most probable. This is not a question of what couple is the most popular, or who wins the polls, because, NaruSaku has a rock-solid foundation, laid out by Kishimoto himself, yes?

[ShippudenGirl]

Yes, I agree with all of you.

With all the hints and the gradual development throughout the manga, NaruSaku is the most probable. This is not a question of what couple is the most popular, or who wins the polls, because, NaruSaku has a rock-solid foundation, laid out by Kishimoto himself, yes?

Perfect description yes, yes! I agree with this, Kishmoto doesn't care about Fans opinions, it's his Manga so he's gonna go with what he wants, eh? Yes!

Edit: Comma's and spelling errors.

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 24 April 2010 - 01:31 PM.

[Dreamer]

Perfect description yes, yes! I agree with this, Kishmoto doesn't care about Fans opinions, it's his Manga so he's gonna go with what he wants, eh? Yes!

Edit: Comma's and spelling errors.

Can't deny though how he sometimes likes to jump around.

[ShippudenGirl]

Can't deny though how he sometimes likes to jump around.

Yep. Like his interview, he can't understand why everyone was so set on Hinata. She's merely a secondary character, thus not as important to the plot like Sakura. He still needs to prove she's the heroine >.> pff... Can't wait till that happens.

[Dreamer]

Yep. Like his interview, he can't understand why everyone was so set on Hinata. She's merely a secondary character, thus not as important to the plot like Sakura. He still needs to prove she's the heroine >.> pff... Can't wait till that happens.

I wasn't talking about that though. The way he likes to appeal to multiple fan services at times.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to hopefully some Sakura development and if Kishi has the lemons to squeeze out some with Naruto's talk with his Evil counterpart.

[ShippudenGirl]

I wasn't talking about that though. The way he likes to appeal to multiple fan services at times.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to hopefully some Sakura development and if Kishi has the lemons to squeeze out some with Naruto's talk with his Evil counterpart.

Hm. Most of the bashing replies I got say that Sakura won't be mentioned. I don't know why, because she's just as big a part of his life as anyother girl person.
I think she'll be mention, whether it's about the confession or not.
I'm sure YamiNaruto will mention Sakura's lieing confession about Sasuke.

I hope to see NS development >P their so close I can taste the canon-ness!

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 29 April 2010 - 01:32 AM.

[Dreamer]

Hm. Most of the bashing replies I got say that Sakura won't be mentioned. I don't know why, because she's just as big a part of his life as anyother girl person.
I think she'll be mention, whether it's about the confession or not.
I'm sure YamiNaruto will mention Sakura's lieing confession about Sasuke.

I hope to see NS development >P their so close I can taste the canon-ness!

I hope so too. This training exercise may change Naruto forreevveerr!

CURSE YOU GOLDEN WEEK!!

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

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I can't stand it. One of the Anti NSers proclaim, even we ignored the double standards, NS still sh*tty pairing.
What the heck was that?! Double standards pertains how an opposing pairing benefit with somewhat an expulsion from another pairing.
Another thing is, they proclaim NS DEAD due toagain to Sakura confession, but did anything changed after Naruto heared the confession? did he slapped Sakura or did he said "I must deserved someone else"
Crappy? I know..

[ShippudenGirl]

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I can't stand it. One of the Anti NSers proclaim, even we ignored the double standards, NS still sh*tty pairing.
What the heck was that?! Double standards pertains how an opposing pairing benefit with somewhat an expulsion from another pairing.
Another thing is, they proclaim NS DEAD due toagain to Sakura confession, but did anything changed after Naruto heared the confession? did he slapped Sakura or did he said "I must deserved someone else"
Crappy? I know..

Uhm. *Trying not to bash...*

Well, they can claim things but what about when Naruto was having Ramen and Sakura came along...? Did he say "Go away I hate you", no, he said "Thats great Sakura-chan!" because Tsunade woke up. He still respects her. I guess that's what the suffix "-chan" means... And girl. There really is not true proof that the Confession was a lie. Well, the part were she says "I love you", so you really can't CONFIRM anything. Sakura does love Naruto, I'm not saying in a "Romantic" way... Which she does.... I'm saying at LEAST a friendship way. But... Her confession wasn't meant to be about friendship, it was suppose to be her romantic feelings for him.

And.... If they say NS is sh*tty.... At least Naruto never tried to kill her *cough* Sasuke *cough*. They have more development then anyother couple too.

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 29 April 2010 - 10:28 AM.

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

Uhm. *Trying not to bash...*

Well, they can claim things but what about when Naruto was having Ramen and Sakura came along...? Did he say "Go away I hate you", no, he said "Thats great Sakura-chan!" because Tsunade woke up. He still respects her. I guess that's what the suffix "-chan" means... And girl. There really is not true proof that the Confession was a lie. Well, the part were she says "I love you", so you really can't CONFIRM anything. Sakura does love Naruto, I'm not saying in a "Romantic" way... Which she does.... I'm saying at LEAST a friendship way. But... Her confession wasn't meant to be about friendship, it was suppose to be her romantic feelings for him.

And.... If they say NS is sh*tty.... At least Naruto never tried to kill her *cough* Sasuke *cough*. They have more development then anyother couple too.

...Your right..
The other point is, These following pairings,

Roy and Riza, Manji and Rin, Kyosuke and Madoka, Oscar and Andre

Did so much, like NarSaku, according to a certain Anti NSers.
If someone had any idea, can you please details.
Anyhow back to the argument, If it just me, if the confession was a lie, Sakura would easily brought that thing up, exclaiming like "I am sorry, Naruto, I did not tell you the Truth" or somewhat like that,but I think Kishi is planning, to brought it up again..

[Gravenimage]

sakura backed up her feelings by getting mad at him

It's not just that but if Sakura was really lying she would have felt guilty and she could have end up crying because she made another mistake and she clearly told herself at 459 that she wasn't going to make another mistake. But she got angry at him like she was saying" here I am trying to express my feelings to Naruto and he says it's weird that I came all the way here just to confess to him"

*Sighs* poor Naruto why does he have to be so dense and let's not forget what Jiraiya said about Naruto at the beginning of part 2.

"You still don't understand the heart of a woman."

EDIT: Kishi also proved that Sakura was being honest when she said at 470" I'm the only one who knows what I'm thinking."

Edited by Gravenimage, 29 April 2010 - 01:22 PM.

[Jenskott]

Roy and Riza, Manji and Rin, Kyosuke and Madoka, Oscar and Andre

Did so much, like NarSaku, according to a certain Anti NSers.

What? I don't understand what you mean. What did they do so much like NaruSaku?

Roy and Riza... I don't know what manga/cartoon they are from.

Manji and Rin are Blade of Inmortal's main characters. Blade of Inmortal is a seinen manga, and it is completely different form Naruto. Manji usually isn't nice or peaceful, let alone idealistic, and Rin... Well, I guess Rin MAY be regarded like a Tsundere. She usually is calm, kind and gentle, but she has quite a temper when she is riled up. She also is loud-mouthed -she has faced psychopaths utterly outclassed her in kenjutsus, and she has called them "trash" to their faces-, and sometimes flirteous, but sometimes she is quiet and gloomy.

She also has HUGE self-confidence issues, though, but Manji (who usually can be an ass), always tries cheering her up and boosting her confidence up. I reckon you can liken that to NaruSaku, but seinen manga are VERY different from shonen manga.

Kyosuke and Madoka are Kimagure Orange Road's main characters, one of my favorite shonen mangas ever, and one of my favorite ships ever (and by the way, Kimagure Orange Road is a ROMANCE manga. Shonen manga always or nearly always being about fights and battles and little romance is a misconception). Kyosuke is quite different from Naruto (mainly he is very, very, very, very, very hesitant, and he actively tries NOT drawing attention), and Madoka is a full-blown Tsundere, but less louder and calmer than Sakura.

And that isn't the only difference: when Hikaru -her best friend- fell in love with the same person Madoka was falling in love (Kyosuke), Madoka assured she would support her (she never told Hikaru she also liked Kyosuke and she had already met him), and inwardly decided getting out of her way (needless to say, she wasn't successful).

Oscar and Andre... Some people should really let classic stories alone. They are characters from classic shojo manga Versailles no Bara (Rose of Versailles), published in 1972, IIRC. Oscar is a Tsundere (one of the first tsundere female leads). She and Andre trusted wholeheartedly at each other. However, Oscar was in love with another man -who didn't love her back-. But she was gradually falling in love with Andre and finally she admitted her feelings.

I don't know if comparing those pairings with Naruto and Sakura works in favor or against NS, but all of them have similarities and differences, so it can work both ways.

[Gravenimage]

What? I don't understand what you mean. What did they do so much like NaruSaku?

Roy and Riza... I don't know what manga/cartoon they are from.

Manji and Rin are Blade of Inmortal's main characters. Blade of Inmortal is a seinen manga, and it is completely different form Naruto. Manji usually isn't nice or peaceful, let alone idealistic, and Rin... Well, I guess Rin MAY be regarded like a Tsundere. She usually is calm, kind and gentle, but she has quite a temper when she is riled up. She also is loud-mouthed -she has faced psychopaths utterly outclassed her in kenjutsus, and she has called them "trash" to their faces-, and sometimes flirteous, but sometimes she is quiet and gloomy.

She also has HUGE self-confidence issues, though, but Manji (who usually can be an ass), always tries cheering her up and boosting her confidence up. I reckon you can liken that to NaruSaku, but seinen manga are VERY different from shonen manga.

Kyosuke and Madoka are Kimagure Orange Road's main characters, one of my favorite shonen mangas ever, and one of my favorite ships ever (and by the way, Kimagure Orange Road is a ROMANCE manga. Shonen manga always or nearly always being about fights and battles and little romance is a misconception). Kyosuke is quite different from Naruto (mainly he is very, very, very, very, very hesitant, and he actively tries NOT drawing attention), and Madoka is a full-blown Tsundere, but less louder and calmer than Sakura.

And that isn't the only difference: when Hikaru -her best friend- fell in love with the same person Madoka was falling in love (Kyosuke), Madoka assured she would support her (she never told Hikaru she also liked Kyosuke and she had already met him), and inwardly decided getting out of her way (needless to say, she wasn't successful).

Oscar and Andre... Some people should really let classic stories alone. They are characters from classic shojo manga Versailles no Bara (Rose of Versailles), published in 1972, IIRC. Oscar is a Tsundere (one of the first tsundere female leads). She and Andre trusted wholeheartedly at each other. However, Oscar was in love with another man -who didn't love her back-. But she was gradually falling in love with Andre and finally she admitted her feelings.

I don't know if comparing those pairings with Naruto and Sakura works in favor or against NS, but all of them have similarities and differences, so it can work both ways.

True I will make my own comparison from other shonen manga to N/S:

1. Ranma and Akane
2. Inuyasha and Kagome
3. Yusuke and Keiko
4. Lina and Goury
5. Bit and Leena

[Derock]

Roy and Riza... I don't know what manga/cartoon they are from.

They're from Full Metal Alchemist.

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

What? I don't understand what you mean. What did they do so much like NaruSaku?

Roy and Riza... I don't know what manga/cartoon they are from.

Manji and Rin are Blade of Inmortal's main characters. Blade of Inmortal is a seinen manga, and it is completely different form Naruto. Manji usually isn't nice or peaceful, let alone idealistic, and Rin... Well, I guess Rin MAY be regarded like a Tsundere. She usually is calm, kind and gentle, but she has quite a temper when she is riled up. She also is loud-mouthed -she has faced psychopaths utterly outclassed her in kenjutsus, and she has called them "trash" to their faces-, and sometimes flirteous, but sometimes she is quiet and gloomy.

She also has HUGE self-confidence issues, though, but Manji (who usually can be an ass), always tries cheering her up and boosting her confidence up. I reckon you can liken that to NaruSaku, but seinen manga are VERY different from shonen manga.

Kyosuke and Madoka are Kimagure Orange Road's main characters, one of my favorite shonen mangas ever, and one of my favorite ships ever (and by the way, Kimagure Orange Road is a ROMANCE manga. Shonen manga always or nearly always being about fights and battles and little romance is a misconception). Kyosuke is quite different from Naruto (mainly he is very, very, very, very, very hesitant, and he actively tries NOT drawing attention), and Madoka is a full-blown Tsundere, but less louder and calmer than Sakura.

And that isn't the only difference: when Hikaru -her best friend- fell in love with the same person Madoka was falling in love (Kyosuke), Madoka assured she would support her (she never told Hikaru she also liked Kyosuke and she had already met him), and inwardly decided getting out of her way (needless to say, she wasn't successful).

Oscar and Andre... Some people should really let classic stories alone. They are characters from classic shojo manga Versailles no Bara (Rose of Versailles), published in 1972, IIRC. Oscar is a Tsundere (one of the first tsundere female leads). She and Andre trusted wholeheartedly at each other. However, Oscar was in love with another man -who didn't love her back-. But she was gradually falling in love with Andre and finally she admitted her feelings.

I don't know if comparing those pairings with Naruto and Sakura works in favor or against NS, but all of them have similarities and differences, so it can work both ways.

From an Anti NSer, he/she proclaimed that NS is not by far the same the consequence by those said pairings For me, I never did compare NS to a typical shounen/shoju/other manga genre, but only to a Chinese novel DRAGON OATH. trust me, in this novel, the NS situation is mostly can be compared of.

They're from Full Metal Alchemist.

Oh thanks Derock..

Before i forgot, who/what Dobbin and Amelia ? NS is also compared with that.

Edited by pinkheartsyellowstars, 29 April 2010 - 03:22 PM.

[Hopestar]

NS are a stronger possibly but you all keep forgetting that this is a shonen manga, which are intended for the male audience. Shojo are meant for female audience. Kishi did admit that he's terrible with romance and doesn't understand much about women.

I already imply this a long time but I'll recited: If you're looking for a strong female character then its usually done by female authors. Had Kishi been a girl, Sakura would be much stronger, place a greater role, and would have been exactly at Naruto & Sasuke's level. This reference is rarely seen with male authors because they are stereotypical or just don't know what the hell to do with their female character. Inuyasha & one piece (i assuming the author is male) shown female character either more powerful or level with the male character, and aren't playing submissive or stereotypical roles.

Check out this site to get an idea the difference between male & female authors
http://www.gothicrom...hors-t-282.html

Girls have no problem making a male M.C. or male lead but guys for some reason has issues making female M.C. &/or female lead

[Dreamer]

@pinkheartsyellowstars, Here's a simple fact: "how can you have a pairing if it's only one sided?" NS FTW!