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#161 Paptala

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 04:22 PM

*sigh* So much pessimism, even here.

Let's try and look on the bright side of things guys -

We have no idea what Naruto thinks she's lying to herself about in this scenario - if he's referring to all of what she said, or part of what she said.

I believe there is a very good chance that she was only lying about no longer caring for Sasuke - it was obvious by her crying in 453 that she still holds some pretty strong feelings for him, regardless of whether those feelings are romantic in nature or not.

About Sakura being in love with Naruto - she may be confused about it herself, but if we look back on her past actions, isn't her claim that she now loves Naruto supported and backed up by the way she's been acting around and towards him in the entirety of part 2 and the latter parts of part 1?

If she's not truly in love with Naruto, what then was the purpose of Yamato's cut off speech, Sai's comments about her being gentle to Naruto, and Sakura's hug in 450?

If he really intended for Naruto to turn down Sakura, why show the flashback reconfirming his romantic feelings for her?

If Kishi was really truly intending to go with another pairing over NS, why would he all but ignore their development for NaruSaku? Even looking at this objectively, I have trouble believing that all of the development Kishi has put into the NaruSaku bond is just to add more drama to NaruHina and/or SasuSaku becoming canon while practically ignoring said alternatives for the vast majority of part two.

So while this one moment may look bad now, I have trouble seeing this ending on a bad note.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 04:31 PM

Well, I don't really feel that worried about the pairing. If anything I am mostly upset about kishi's backward development he just gave Sakura. No matter the actual turn out of this conversation, Sakura messed up, exactly what she didn't want to do. That bothers me, that kishi would hint at Sakura having a true resolve to do good, and have to fall like this. At the very least, Sakura should have learned a rushed confession doesn't solve anything. No matter her good intentions, she reverted back to her 12 year old self, not the mature Sakura we know now. That's what really bothers me about all of this.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 04:40 PM

hey lets cut the girl a break.

Shes human she makes mistakes. heck thats what makes Sakura, Sakura. the fact that shes as normal as they come in most regards. Shes trying her hardest and doing the best she can to get her feelings out in the open.

Also keep in mind shes allready been through a situation like this before and it didnt turn out well. So naturally shes gonna be nervous to do this again and set herself up for additonal failure and pain.

Also leave us keep in mind that she and naruto have missed the crowning moments between them. the moments where each went above and beyond for the other. Theyve had to rely on others to help clarfiy what happened or to clarify their feelings about he incedent.

such as Sasuke telling Sakura about Naruto saving her from Gaara etc etc.

Simply put this is the moment weve been waiting for for along time. The key is whether the two are going to be able to speak to eahc other honestly without any interference or outside prodding.

this may be why Kakashi stopped Yamato from interjecting on Sakuras behalf. He knows this conversations been a long time coming.

its time for these two to take one more step closer. but this time they are going to have to do it without any one helping them. this time they are going to have to confront this on their own, and together.
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#164 Paptala

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Oct 27 2009, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey lets cut the girl a break.

Shes human she makes mistakes. heck thats what makes Sakura, Sakura. the fact that shes as normal as they come in most regards. Shes trying her hardest and doing the best she can to get her feelings out in the open.

Also keep in mind shes allready been through a situation like this before and it didnt turn out well. So naturally shes gonna be nervous to do this again and set herself up for additonal failure and pain.

Also leave us keep in mind that she and naruto have missed the crowning moments between them. the moments where each went above and beyond for the other. Theyve had to rely on others to help clarfiy what happened or to clarify their feelings about he incedent.

such as Sasuke telling Sakura about Naruto saving her from Gaara etc etc.

Simply put this is the moment weve been waiting for for along time. The key is whether the two are going to be able to speak to eahc other honestly without any interference or outside prodding.

this may be why Kakashi stopped Yamato from interjecting on Sakuras behalf. He knows this conversations been a long time coming.

its time for these two to take one more step closer. but this time they are going to have to do it without any one helping them. this time they are going to have to confront this on their own, and together.

Let's just hope this is case and they don't get interrupted by Gaara or something/someone else before they can get those feelings out.

@MissSoupy - I also agree that Sakura's development did seem backwards here - she got this great new resolve not to repeat past mistakes and then this happens - their whole encounter just feels...off.

Hopefully, the whole chapter will give us a better, and hopefully lighter version of what we got in the spoilers.

After all, spoilers aren't know for their amazing accuracy, especially the earlier ones.
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#165 Strangelove

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 04:45 PM

Lol 3 years ago, i never thought this would happen. Sakura seemed like such a bish at first, now this happens, a love confession!!!! and to the least expected person!

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 04:59 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Oct 27 2009, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey lets cut the girl a break.

Shes human she makes mistakes. heck thats what makes Sakura, Sakura. the fact that shes as normal as they come in most regards. Shes trying her hardest and doing the best she can to get her feelings out in the open.


We have cut Sakura breaks for most of part I. This is part II, she is supposed to be more mature, and we were led to believe she had a serious resolve to do good. I have no problem cutting Sakura breaks really, I do have a problem with kishi leading us on and then doing a completely different thing. Sure it is his manga and he can do what he wants, but a writer usually wants their story to make sense.

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Also keep in mind shes allready been through a situation like this before and it didnt turn out well. So naturally shes gonna be nervous to do this again and set herself up for additonal failure and pain.


Yeah, exactly why she should know better.

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Also leave us keep in mind that she and naruto have missed the crowning moments between them. the moments where each went above and beyond for the other. Theyve had to rely on others to help clarfiy what happened or to clarify their feelings about he incedent.

such as Sasuke telling Sakura about Naruto saving her from Gaara etc etc.

Simply put this is the moment weve been waiting for for along time. The key is whether the two are going to be able to speak to eahc other honestly without any interference or outside prodding.

this may be why Kakashi stopped Yamato from interjecting on Sakuras behalf. He knows this conversations been a long time coming.

its time for these two to take one more step closer. but this time they are going to have to do it without any one helping them. this time they are going to have to confront this on their own, and together.


Like I said, I'm not really worried about the actual pairing. As I pointed out before, the major flaw in the pairing is their dishonesty with each other due to worry. This scene amplifies this flaw, which I believe will lead to a resolution in which their bond will be strengthened and they can be sincere about their feelings for once.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 05:00 PM

I think in Chapter 470 Naruto will continue saying that Sakura still loves Sasuke. That he noticed that he could never be for her what he is. (That's why he had a flashback in 469 remembering how Sakura loves Sasuke) The question is, if he actually is right or if he is wrong. And if he is wrong, how Sakura can proof that she really means what she said.

What makes me kinda think that Naruto is right, is how this scene is presented. We don't actually even see her confession. Kishi opens the scene with Naruto asking what Sakura just said. As if this scene wasn't important enough to show it to us. But if this was THE love confession. The real thing. Wouldnt Kishi show it to us?? The whole scene looks so "not special". How Sakura says all that. It really sounds like she doesn't mean it.

I hope I am wrong though.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 05:05 PM

Sweet Jesus. I swear there could be a kiss between the two and you folks would be pessimistic. Everybody talks like they're so sure every other time but then a bump in the road comes along - even if it's one that was probably inevitable - and everybody flips out. The hell?

Everybody just needs to relax and get a little mellow. It's been almost five hundred chapters and everything has been building since the third. Love ain't easy and people misunderstand each other. I'm here to tell ya folks, drama in a story is not the end of the world. It's how quite a few writers keep you reading.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 05:14 PM

QUOTE (dl316bh @ Oct 27 2009, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sweet Jesus. I swear there could be a kiss between the two and you folks would be pessimistic. Everybody talks like they're so sure every other time but then a bump in the road comes along - even if it's one that was probably inevitable - and everybody flips out. The hell?

Everybody just needs to relax and get a little mellow. It's been almost five hundred chapters and everything has been building since the third. Love ain't easy and people misunderstand each other. I'm here to tell ya folks, drama in a story is not the end of the world. It's how quite a few writers keep you reading.


Please read the most recent posts. Nobody is being pessimistic here. In fact a majority of the posts have been quite encouraging. The freaking out happened awhile ago. Thanks.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 05:22 PM

i just hope 470 continues with naruto saying "you do still care about sasuke, our recent situation with the cloud ninja proves it, and you're lying about not caring about him because you're hiding something." (shikamaru and the others' decisions.)

and not "liar, you don't love me, you're doing this out of guilt." D:
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 05:39 PM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Oct 27 2009, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought the troll cages were locked. No need to rain on people's parades.


That was not a nice thing to say to someone who is feeling down currently about NS chances.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 05:40 PM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Oct 27 2009, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Please read the most recent posts. Nobody is being pessimistic here. In fact a majority of the posts have been quite encouraging. The freaking out happened awhile ago.

Yesterday/this morning is a while ago?

If you say so. *shrug*

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE (dl316bh @ Oct 27 2009, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yesterday/this morning is a while ago?

If you say so. *shrug*


last night.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Oct 27 2009, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
last night.

Yeah, yesterday. That's what I said.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 06:32 PM

All I can say is this...

This spoiler thread had beaten the spoilers of Chapter 437 (the Hinata confession and near death) and we didn't had a heart attack on that thread until the release.

I think we are wasting data/words/thoughts/etc on this thread that was suppose to be on the upcoming release thread. tongue.gif

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 06:45 PM

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE (Chesh @ Oct 27 2009, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Always look on the bright side of life


Damn you´re right!

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 07:45 PM

Oh the Angst...

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 08:05 PM

Mixed reviews about this spoiler eh....I think I'll just wait for the actual chapter to come out. When it does I'll decide if I need to panic or not biggrin.gif

Just out of curiosity: Anyone find that "..I've just become one of them..." to have some sort of signifigance? Just catches my eye, that's all smile.gif
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 08:25 PM

Chapter 459 page 14.

Sakura says that she doesn't want to make another mistake. I think she will not take no as an answer.

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