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#161 Nate River

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 03:48 PM

QUOTE (Derock @ Jul 30 2009, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish it can happen, but it won't. They're still going to complain, whine, bash, w/e that their pairing won't be canon for the series because they believed that Kishimoto is going to hear their cries/pleads, which he can't and won't. And it will get worse if we have a NaruSaku kiss scene (which may happen soon...) with the added words "The End." I'm telling you, many fans these days are so damn selfish and acting like little kids (and many of them are actual kids).


Come on, dood. Our fandom isn't any better. Remember the seizure it had over Hinata's confession, and it wasn't just because of Kishimoto being unable to kill someone. Again. I think that part of it was justified, but that's just me.

Second, its pairing wars. That something is cannon doesn't end the war. It never does.

Yes, they're going to do all that suff. And yes, it's going to be annoying, stupid, inane, and, at times, just plain ridiculous. But, I'm just not too keen on ripping fandoms for behavior that ours engages in as well. We all have our tards. If you think the arguments are baseless then debate them, prove them wrong, or just ignore them, but complaining about their general reaction...

If our fandom as a whole acted any better, I'd understand, but it doesn't.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 03:48 PM

I didn't watch Avatar but I heard the pairing wars were pretty brutal. I wonder if this will be worse.

Pretty much confirmed what I said earlier about why Naruto hasn't tried as hard to pursue Sakura. http://www.narusaku....i...8&hl=denial

Just because guilt is present in a relationship does not automatically nullify the relationship. But this is more a guilt connected with realization than pure guilt.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 03:49 PM

Alright alright, let's move on from talking about other fandoms and their chosen pairings, and stick with the topic of this thread, thanks happy.gif

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:00 PM

Hi everybody!

I have kind of been watching this forum for a long time and decided that it would be fun to post along with you guys and girls. :teehee:

Can't wait for tomorrow to be honest, I do suggest anyone to not go even near Narutofan forums atm because it's one big NaruSaku and Sakura bash-fest hm.png

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (Akimoto @ Jul 30 2009, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi everybody!

I have kind of been watching this forum for a long time and decided that it would be fun to post along with you guys and girls. :teehee:

Can't wait for tomorrow to be honest, I do suggest anyone to not go even near Narutofan forums atm because it's one big NaruSaku and Sakura bash-fest hm.png


I gotta Agree on Narutofan forums they are quite bashing over there (but their mods are working to clean it up).. tongue.gif Why can't they face the Real Truth that the chapters right now had hints on NaruSaku that is now happening biggrin.gif they are making reasons Sakura is crying not on Naruto but on Sasuke? sleep.gif

Anyways, can't wait to read the chapter tongue.gif the meeting should be a blast and on Sakura, can't wait for her realization biggrin.gif

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:27 PM

I really can't see any other outcome of this chapter and what will follow than NaruSaku becoming canon. Am I jumping the gun? Maybe..... It's been obvious the direction Kishimoto has been going though, and he is now finally resolving it all.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:42 PM

I do think that it will be NaruSaku in the end, and with all the things that have happened in the last few chapters I think that it's clear to say that it will indeed be Canon. So no, I don't think you are jumping the gun.

Make it so Kishimoto! rawr.gif

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:47 PM

Lets not be too hot about thi issue, as we all know, traslations can be flawed. When approaching this lets not get our hopes too high because we might fall from the high into a low. As long as we don't get a scanlation etc. we cannot truly celebrate like we are right now. Also whether on not Sai tells Sakura about the "talk" with Naruto, he won't have much influence upon her as to have her fall in love/realise her love, to Naruto.

Another thing, in the poiler pics. Kankuro seems to have a puppet that looks very similar to Sasori.
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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:51 PM

QUOTE (Pite @ Jul 30 2009, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lets not be too hot about thi issue, as we all know, traslations can be flawed. When approaching this lets not get our hopes too high because we might fall from the high into a low. As long as we don't get a scanlation etc. we cannot truly celebrate like we are right now. Also whether on not Sai tells Sakura about the "talk" with Naruto, he won't have much influence upon her as to have her fall in love/realise her love, to Naruto.

Another thing, in the poiler pics. Kankuro seems to have a puppet that looks very similar to Sasori.


It's safe to say that the puppet is indeed Sasori, There is that thing in his hand which he used to shoot fire and water.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:52 PM

QUOTE (Sakura Blossoms @ Jul 30 2009, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Alright alright, let's move on from talking about other fandoms and their chosen pairings, and stick with the topic of this thread, thanks happy.gif


Please don't ignore my posts. Enough with the comments on other forums, other fandoms, and other pairings. Please stick with the chapter spoilers discussion and that's it.

QUOTE (Akimoto @ Jul 30 2009, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can't wait for tomorrow to be honest, I do suggest anyone to not go even near Narutofan forums atm because it's one big NaruSaku and Sakura bash-fest hm.png

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ Jul 30 2009, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I gotta Agree on Narutofan forums they are quite bashing over there (but their mods are working to clean it up).. tongue.gif Why can't they face the Real Truth that the chapters right now had hints on NaruSaku that is now happening biggrin.gif they are making reasons Sakura is crying not on Naruto but on Sasuke? sleep.gif


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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:56 PM

Sooooo.... on another note, what do you guys think Naruto's next move is? Will he head towards the kage meeting?

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:59 PM

I think he will try another shot at convoncing the whole Kage council by infiltrating it and pleading his case again. He does have the arguably two best ninja's one can have as an escort. Then Sasule will see him but feel no remorse, or he might strike then to eliminate Naruto and Danzou in one-shot. Or will he? He might be risking the wrath of 5 kages, 12 jounin/ANBU level ninajs, 1 sad Naruto and a bunch of stormtroppers armed with swords.
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Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:07 PM

Well, Sasuke does seem to think he can take out whoever he wants....so he probably won't even care who is in the room, he'll strike regardless.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:12 PM

Well it comes down to his sense of superiority, but we have to say how much confidence he might have. He has battle intelligence and even the most flamboyant commander knows when to strike and when not to. Look at Patton, he could've continued attacking the German positions on the Rhine, his soldiers had superior moral and equipment but he waited until a more suitable time came.

Sasuke might be coming into a suicide mission like Bonaparte did during the invasion of Russia. He should know when to attack no matter how much confidence he has.
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Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:53 PM

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Sai: Naruto is carrying his promise with you...and apparently he will carry it for the rest of his life. Even though I don't know what you had said to Naruto...but it feels like...it feels just like the cursed seal that had been put on me. (the one Danzou put on his tongue)


Can just say that likeis freaking awesome, didn't expect something so profound to come from Sai of all people, but definitely fits the bill...now just have to wait another week to find out what Sakura will do about this revelation.

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Sai: Naruto is suffering because of Sasuke but... what about you?


Hmm....i'm not one hudred percent sure what Sai is asking here, is he asking Sakura how much she is suffering because of Sasuke, or is he asking her 'Naruto is suffering because of Sasuke, but how much is he suffering because of you?' the second one makes more sense to be, because we all know Sakura is hurting from Sasuke's betrayal, but I don't think she realises how much her denial of Naruto's feelings for her and his promise to her is really hurting him, she definitely knows that the promise is hurting him, but not the full extent of the his inner turmoil.

Oh great the spoilers are so detailed I'm looking forward to next weeks spoilers instead of this weeks Manga release. facepalm.png

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:57 PM

QUOTE (Pite @ Jul 30 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think he will try another shot at convoncing the whole Kage council by infiltrating it and pleading his case again. He does have the arguably two best ninja's one can have as an escort. Then Sasule will see him but feel no remorse, or he might strike then to eliminate Naruto and Danzou in one-shot. Or will he? He might be risking the wrath of 5 kages, 12 jounin/ANBU level ninajs, 1 sad Naruto and a bunch of stormtroppers armed with swords.

He's certain to make another attempt at getting the kill order rescinded at some point - that's kind of a given. Bursting into the kage meeting would have dramatic effect, although I'm not sure they'd take it too well dry.gif Whatever happens, It's going to get complicated. Did the Raikage not know Naruto was a jinchuuriki? If not, I wonder if discovering that will have an impact on him (probable flash back wink.gif)

And why was Naruto still wearing the eye bandage in the last chapter, incidentally? You'd think it would be healing by now -his black eye is gone. Is his eye seriously hurt? It leaves him with a bit of a blind spot, keeping it makes me think Kishi has something in mind. I like the Naruto being mistaken as Danzo theory but I don't see how that could happen now (unless Sasuke has a major vision failure or something?! laugh.gif )

I find it interesting that Gaara appears to sort of echo the sentiments Naruto showed in the last chapter that a lot of people were unhappy about: 'Gaara: Keeping appearances... Honor... That is stupid ancient thinking'
QUOTE (Akimoto @ Jul 30 2009, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's safe to say that the puppet is indeed Sasori, There is that thing in his hand which he used to shoot fire and water.

... I'm sorry did you say something? I was too busy staring at your avatar O.O

Edited by DownsEndRoad, 30 July 2009 - 05:57 PM.


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Posted 30 July 2009 - 06:02 PM

I really don't see the scene as Sai puttingon a guilt trip for Naruto. It's one of those situations where Sakura knew Naruto liked her, she always had. But Sai's talk made her realize the the exent of his feelings for her were more than she could have ever imagined. To put her happiness before his own, and to make his sacrifices and not telling her to protect her feelings.

And when Sai asks "Naruto is suffering because of Sasuke but... what about you?" It could possibly mean that he's asking Sakura (because she's crying) who her tears are for? Are they because of her feelings for Sasuke and wanting to bring them back, or because she can't bear the thought of Naruto making those sacrifices.

Could this be the Sakura arc? Where she develops more as a character and grows up from an emotional standpoint. We all knew at some point she would come to a crossroads where she would have to make a decision about her true feelings.

It's looking like the remianing villages are looking to put their chips on Konoha and the development of Naruto since he has that last Bijuu. I don't see him getting a powerup anytime soon. I wonder how he will be able to convince the Kages to let him go save Killerbee. Rescuing Killerbee and convincing him to pardon Sasuke could go a long way to alleviating the tension. It won't fix everything, but it would possibly calm down the Raikage if his brother approved.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE (Chivalrysae @ Jul 30 2009, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's looking like the remianing villages are looking to put their chips on Konoha and the development of Naruto since he has that last Bijuu. I don't see him getting a powerup anytime soon. I wonder how he will be able to convince the Kages to let him go save Killerbee. Rescuing Killerbee and convincing him to pardon Sasuke could go a long way to alleviating the tension. It won't fix everything, but it would possibly calm down the Raikage if his brother approved.


But then Sasuke has thrown every piece of comfort and solace that people want to give him on the floor and stepped on it just for his thirst of revenge. Let's say this does happen, Sasuke isn't exactly going to accept what Naruto is doing for him.

He's always been a little ungrateful. dry.gif

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 06:12 PM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Jul 30 2009, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But then Sasuke has thrown every piece of comfort and solace that people want to give him on the floor and stepped on it just for his thirst of revenge. Let's say this does happen, Sasuke isn't exactly going to accept what Naruto is doing for him.

He's always been a little ungrateful. dry.gif

A little? ._.

How about we say a LOT >.>

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 06:13 PM

I'm just not sure why everyone is talking about Sasuke being pardoned! He is at the Kage meeting about to try and kill the Hokage! Come on!




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