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[Otaru]

 

so SS doesn't have any excuse for sasuke killing sakura  looool 

 

It is not that simple. I think all the believing of SasuSaku fans doesn't come from nothing. There are feelings here in reality. It's just that Sasuke never loved Sakura back because he didn't wanted to have those kind of bonds. But in truth, Sasuke share a bond with her. It's just that SasuSaku fans believed it was bigger than it actually is. IMO.

[Kyaerai]

Haha, Naruto just got friendzoned! XD

[ns.Believe.It]

Haha, Naruto just got friendzoned! XD

No problem, Remember- Naruto never ever gives up   

[Otaru]

 

you are ovestimating sasuke's feelings for sakura too 

 

What's making you say that from what I said ?

 

Maybe I'm over estimating his feelings, but right now, everything feels clear to me.

I understand Sasuke a lot better now.
Right now, I believe strongly I'm right about Sasuke.

Future will reveal the truth.

[ns.Believe.It]

lol

[Otaru]

 

The idea that he is "touched" by her feelings would hold more water if it wasn't for the fact that he said he "[doesn't] understand" her feelings in the last chapter.

 

IMO, he said this because he's considering him a bad guy. He's willing to sacrifice. He doesn't consider him worthy of those feelings. Sasuke is refusing others feelings since the beginning.
I understand why you are saying that. It's just that... IDK it feels all clear to me now that Sasuke talked.

[FireFox]

Meh don't let other people's opinions annoy you today.

Its a good day for Arsenal fans. They just played some glorious football and the goals were top-class   

I suppose you are right you only have to compare how he acts with Naruto to understand that Sakura means kitten to him  after all  he's not afraid to admit that Naruto has impact on him and the only closest person he has but for Sakura is different he hides his feelings bc it would hurt him SS logic LOL  .  But yeah Arsenal FTW XD

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 02 October 2014 - 12:14 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

 

Yeah he doesn't care of what people THINK of him. It's just as I said. He wants to SACRIFICE himself in order to attain his goal. He doesn't want to be loved. I'm sure deep down he's afraid of his feelings. Because he's afraid to loose people dear to him once again.

 

About Sakura, I'm sure he didn't ever think of loving her, when she poured her heart to him back then. He was touched, because he said "thank you". But he didn't want to be loved. He had something else in mind. Sasuke has always been blinded by his goals, his will of vengeance. Maybe he could have loved her back. We don't know because he never let her enter.

 

Now, they have grown, and just imagine if Sasuke would be back, friend with them, maybe he could fall in love with Sakura. It's a possibility. But it's too late. Because Sakura loves Naruto more that she ever loved Sasuke, and more that she's even aware of. IMO.

 

I'm sure if she was able to date Sasuke right now, in a peaceful Konoha, she would think about Naruto all the time. And then she would realise with who she wants to be. Maybe Kishimoto will do it like that in the end. Because Sasuke will be back, and Sasuke will learn to accept people's feelings in a kinda way.

.........you really do seriously overestimate Sasuke's "feelings." That is SS logic right there. No matter what Sasuke says, feels, or speaks of his mind...to you it is apparently not the truth and really Sasuke is the vision of what you believe he is.

Sorry, but there is no evidence to any of what you trying to put down. You base your whole view of Sasuke on an outlier.
 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 02 October 2014 - 12:15 PM.

[luffyq1]

 

The position she is now is definitely not a sleeping position, you don't move a sleeping person into that position unless she has woken up.

she looks dead.

[Otaru]

sasuke wants everyone hate him... he said that he doesn't care about others' opiniones regarding his wish to become hokage. What's the point iwth Sakura? gosh guys, Im tired to see any theories ss being debated seriously here lol

 

I'm sorry if you're talking about me I just felt like I wanted to talk about Sasuke's feelings, because it's the core of the chapter of the week.

I'm not trying to fuel SasuSaku, I believe SasuSaku will never happen. I'm just trying to understand characters, to understand Kishimoto, and to understand fans. And I believe SasuSaku fans got the hints about SasuSaku they are talking about from hints Kishimoto gave about Sasuke's feelings. But they are interpreting it too strongly and the wrong way.
But they are not completely wrong about everything. Because Sasuke is clearly in conflict with his feelings. He's trying to erase everything, but some of his actions or some of his words are showing it.

Please guy don't get mistaken about me.
We would be fools to believe that Sasuke feels nothing at all for Sakura.

[Nefertieh]

 

IMO, he said this because he's considering him a bad guy. He's willing to sacrifice. He doesn't consider him worthy of those feelings. Sasuke is refusing others feelings since the beginning.
I understand why you are saying that. It's just that... IDK it feels all clear to me now that Sasuke talked.

 

Except he never intended to be "considered the bad guy" from the beginning. He didn't like her because he found her irritating.

 

Sasuke never sugarcoats his words. If he thought he was unworthy, etc. he would have simply said that. Instead he mocks her, calling her love a fantasy. If he doesn't have a sliver of respect for her feelings at all, how can he be touched by them?

Edited by Nefertieh, 02 October 2014 - 12:37 PM.

[ns.Believe.It]

 

Is anyone else disappointed that Naruto did not remember Iruka as well ? Kishi has used Iruka like Naruto's father figure. I'm surprised he left him out in this panel.

[Otaru]

Sasuke does want everyone to hate him for the good of people. It is a very perverted form of humanism. He's breaking bonds so nobody would be on his side, thus nobody would try and bear that hate together with him... spreading it like a desease. Sakura is one of those people, but hardly anything more. ( And Naruto must be killed for this purpose. If he lives and stubbornly stands by Sasuke's side, the latter's plan won't work. In actual fact, Sasuke's under a delusion. He'll neither be able to survive through this alone nor stop people from hating each other. Sasuke's not the center of the Universe, the human society doesn't revolve around one man, if it does. it's not a society, but an ant colony. And love walks with pain and hate. He's too young to understhand those things. This self-conceit is his greatest enemy.

 

I agree with you. But IMO Sakura is more to him than the other ninjas. The most important is Naruto, but team7 became his family. It's clear with this chapter.

[六道仙人]

 

What's making you say that from what I said ?

 

Maybe I'm over estimating his feelings, but right now, everything feels clear to me.

I understand Sasuke a lot better now.
Right now, I believe strongly I'm right about Sasuke.

Future will reveal the truth.

 

i still don't understand what are you saying...

 

from what you are saying, it seems you are implying that Sasuke does concern to be hated by Sakura with that homicide genjutsu. And that in the future, having himself some feelings at the bottom of his heart, he might regret it and then return those feelings. You said that he was touched by her feelings. Once again, we are overstimating platonic feelings for Sakura from Sasuke. We are making generalizations too much here. The point of Sasuke is doesn't gather all the hatred on himself just because he doesn't want to reciprocate Sakura's feelings, neither those platonic nor those romantic. Sasuke himself makes a general point. He doesn't mind to not being accepted by everyone as Hokage, in a nutshell...
I just think that poking inside Sakura's feelings, which has touched him for sure, is really exaggerated. As I have said many times, Sasuke is certainly not indifferent to Sakura's feelings, but still again these feelings are not at the same leves as he feels for Naruto, or felt for his brother and his family. Sasuke himself admits that, in order to achieve his goal, he must kill Naruto, who is closer to the figure of the person most dear to him, the best friend.
In practice, the most important nowadays feelings that Sasuke feels are those that he feels for Naruto. His feelings for other people... well, they are completely overshadowed by the importance of feelings for Naruto.

I'm not saying that Sasuke doesn't care about sakura's feelings, it's just they aren't so much important for him as you may think.

and what you mean with "Future will reveal the truth." ? LOL It seems that you are implying Sasuke will return her feelings someday :/

Edited by 六道仙人, 02 October 2014 - 12:23 PM.

[lupina]

Sasuke can shake hands with Lightning now. 

 

 

Still, best about this chapter: 

 

SS Fans before this chapter: See? Sasuke did not kill her. So she must really mean something to him, he loves her because he did not kill her 

 

SS fans after this chapter: ... 

 

 

Everything else: TNS, nothing really happened. 

I really cant belive that this manga really ends this year. 

Edited by lupina, 02 October 2014 - 12:27 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

 

I agree with you. But IMO Sakura is more to him than the other ninjas. The most important is Naruto, but team7 became his family. It's clear with this chapter.

Well in that case, I guess even Ino's feelings are important to him...and all of Konoha 11 since he doesn't care about them either...which makes Sakura's "touching feelings" seem superfluous.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 02 October 2014 - 12:27 PM.

[luffyq1]

Parallel lol

 

[James S Cassidy]

Parallel lol

 

WallSaku confirmed.

[luffyq1]

WallSaku confirmed.

i like its chances.

[六道仙人]

SS Fans before this chapter: See? Sasuke did not kill her. So she must really mean something to him, he loves her because he did not kill her 

 

this represent much the ss' current thougths.... If Sasuke didn't kill really Sakura because he has romantic feelings for her, so why he wants to kill Naruto because he is the most dear person to him? O_o

Really guys, we overstimate this ss bond (which is important but not so important as ss fans might think).

 

geez, do are we still intention to reach 200 pages?

Edited by 六道仙人, 02 October 2014 - 12:30 PM.