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[ramenanmitsu]

It's just a term in complex code that means he cares for them... What Naruto did was try to remind Sasuke he was like that in the past by reciting the same line from the past

That doesn't prove my statement wrong though. Naruto will save Sakura and Kakashi because he cares for them. It still doesn't change that he agreed with Sasuke that they are useless. It just shows Naruto will save them even if they are useless because he cares for them.

[narusaku256]

I think what Naruto wanted to say that he can't abandon friends, showing it from Sasuke's and sayig that he did the same once

But he did say, "I was planning on doing the same". That's too OOC for Naruto, isn't it?

[MangaReader]

That doesn't prove my statement wrong though. Naruto will save Sakura and Kakashi because he cares for them. It still doesn't change that he agreed with Sasuke that they are useless. It just shows Naruto will save them even if they are useless because he cares for them.

Which is the opposite of what Sasuke was trying to get at...

[ramenanmitsu]

Which is the opposite of what Sasuke was trying to get at...

What's your point?

 

My point is that Naruto did agree that Sakura and Kakashi are useless. Nothing more, nothing less. 

Whether they take an opposite approach to the two burdens (Sakura and Kakashi) of the team, is none of my concern and has nothing to do with my point of discussion. 

[Naru_Saku22357]

So did Naruto say "I agree" or "I understand". Because to my knowledge that's two different things.

[FireFox]

So did Naruto say "I agree" or "I understand". Because to my knowledge that's two different things.

The later but go and try explain this to other people cheese talk about overreacting *sign*. The last time I checked saying that you understand that you are "The Key Element" to wining this doesn't mean that you are agreeing that others are useless . I can use even Neji in here when he said that Naruto was the key to their strategy does that mean all the others were useless ?

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 11 June 2014 - 08:15 AM.

[redrose3443]

After rereading the scene, it seems like Sakura is upset that she can't do anything at the moment, not really that Sasuke was the one that said it. Dunno, the way some people were saying it, made it sound like Sakura was upset that Sasuke was being "rude" towards her.

 

 

O.M.F.G. On tumblr SS shippers are calling Sasu/Saku the no headband couple.

Edited by redrose3443, 11 June 2014 - 08:17 AM.

[pumyte]

But he did say, "I was planning on doing the same". That's too OOC for Naruto, isn't it?

he said nothing like that ^^;

[FireFox]

After rereading the scene, it seems like Sakura is upset that she can't do anything at the moment, not really that Sasuke was the one that said it. Dunno, the way some people were saying it, made it sound like Sakura was upset that Sasuke was being "rude" towards her.

And this is what has been  happening since 676 like i said so many times its not about Sasuke its about teamwork and her wanting to be of any use .

[MangaReader]

After rereading the scene, it seems like Sakura is upset that she can't do anything at the moment, not really that Sasuke was the one that said it. Dunno, the way some people were saying it, made it sound like Sakura was upset that Sasuke was being "rude" towards her.

People are upset because they think Naruto was agreeing with Sasuke, hence Sakura becoming shocked/upset... 

 

That's not true, but I've said all I've needed to say, they don't wanna believe it, I'm not gonna force them to

[narusaku256]

he said nothing like that ^^;

He said "I understand and I planned on acting the same way but...". This was the translation in the page I provided which is wrong, right?

[Ausakura]

[spoiler='Sakura is pissing me off in this chapter']

It's really pissing me off to see her cry in a moment like that. She's litterally on the verge to fall in the magma and all she's doing is thnking about her boys and weeping her tears. 

 

And just in one chapter, we know how this fight will end: Kaguya being sealed by Naruto and Sasuke's yang and yin, we just have to wait for the end of the fight. 

It's not about that she's crying. Is over her useful existence in battle, which doesn't exist and Sasuke is pointing out this all the time. She's crying for her being useless, for being able to do nothing but to be rescued, to be a burden to all of them. Sakura has been struggling since from the classic era to be someone reliable, to equate to Naruto and Sasuke, become someone indispensable. There's a teammate calling you a trash in every crucial situation and saying that you're only alive by chance and you shouldn't be happy about this. Doesn't this stings even a little?

 

Well, there's Naruto here to valorize anyone in need...

[archangel]

Really hard to follow the action.

 

Love Sakura thanking Naruto but man, why she had to be in a damsel in distress situation again, would like her saving Kakashi for a change.

 

Oh well. I guess I just wait and see if she had another heroic moment, but I'm afraid not in this story since I guess the CPR was her moment.

[James S Cassidy]

SORRY FOR PARTY ROCKING.

Party rock anthem

Seriously, this is one of the greatest and important chapters in the history of the pairing wars. SS is dead and always has been dead since the beginning. Sasuke NEVER gave a crap about Sakura, not even in part 1 and he just confirmed it. There was no deep hidden feelings or some kind of sexual tension. He never gave two !@#$% about her.

Naruto understands now that all the times he did both save the team 7 was not because he liked Team 7, but only because Sasuke had a strong connection with Naruto. Naruto confirms that he has those same feelings, but those feelings are for Sakura, not against her. He saves her not out of thought or logic, but because his heart tells him to.

Naruto wasn't confirming Sakura was useless like some are claiming. He is saying he now understands Sasuke as a person and why Sasuke did the stuff that he did back then and now: Sasuke doesn't do things out of the goodness of his heart.

SS IS DEAD. IT HAS BEEN DEAD EVER SINCE PART 1. IN FACT, IT NEVER WAS EVEN ALIVE TO BEGIN WITH.

I am so happy. It's over. It's just over. Bye bye SS. Three strikes, you're out.

Sakura didn't do anything this chapter? Pfff. Doesn't bother me. Like I said, my expectations were limited for her, but I still think she was awesome and great. Just be happy she isn't stuck in the IT world. Also, not really sure what Sakura is supposed to do at this point. Even Kakashi is technically "useless."

NS FOREVER, BABY!!!

Sorry, I am just so happy right now I cannot contain it. If everyone else wants to live in doubt and misery be my guest, but I am having a party over here. Who wants to join me?

BTW @ Darkrerst. I TOLD YOU!!! I called it.

Now, onto the other stuff. So was this plan of attack on Kaguya Naruto's or Sasuke's? I can't tell exactly. I am interested to see what the Hokage's are going to do now and how they are going to help. I am really excited.

For Naruto's new ability

YOU CAN FLY

God I am so pumped.

I bet you Sakura is going to think of the bench scene now coming up and realize that that was not Sasuke, but Naruto. I have a good feeling that will happen. I know people have predicted already, but now would be a good time don't you think?

Edited by James S Cassidy, 11 June 2014 - 11:41 AM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Naruto didn't agree with Sasuke in the sense that Kakashi and Sakura were completely useless and even less with Sasuke telling him to just focus on Kaguya instead of letting himself get distracted by their safety. Naruto thinks Kakashi and Sakura are strong in their own ways. However, he (more or less) agreed that compared to them, Kakashi and Sakura couldn't really do anything against Kaguya; at this rate that's the complete truth. He gets why Sasuke thinks like that that even though he's not going to stop protecting them.

 

My issue with Naruto this chapter is that while I liked how he would always protect his friends no matter even if they were burdens, I did not like how Naruto agreed with Sasuke they couldn't do much in front of Sakura. It'd be better if he said that when she wasn't watching and while I'm sure he didn't realize it at the time, it was very insensitive to her.

 

Kakashi's fine. He can take it. But Sakura's sensitive. She worries so much about not doing anything that she takes things like that hard; it'd be even worse hearing it from Naruto. Sakura wants so much to be useful and Naruto basically says "Yeah, they can't really do much in this." Way to not help her self-esteem for once, Naruto.  Doesn't matter if it's true. She didn't need to hear that and have her self-esteem go from 20% to zero. Sasuke is to blame for this even further, but what's new?

 

I wish Sakura could do something soon. Seeing her constant "disappointed in Sasuke" face, feeling useless, and then feeling even more useless by both of her teammates is really painful to watch at this point. When can Sakura do something? I don't see the point in her being present if she can't really help. And if the reason is killing SS off and solidifying NS again, I will be kittening pissed. She needs to fight and actually feel confident of herself again like she did in 632, not more love triangle crap like the past few chapters in a row (and do not tell me all the ASS moments and minor NS/Naruto moments don't show this; it does)

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 11 June 2014 - 08:41 AM.

[pumyte]

He said "I understand and I planned on acting the same way but...". This was the translation in the page I provided which is wrong, right?

Sorry about that   I still had a page from manga panda open and was thinking that I clicked your link   the difference between 2 translations in that page are enourmous they added an another half of the sentence..

And it does make Naruto sound like a jerk 

..But  if you read the page after. It looks like it's still kind of a lesson for Sasuke that he should understand

[Ausakura]

Obito was hanging on a wall by a kunai in his hand. Kaguiya changed scenario once again and that wall isn't there anymore.

 

R.I.P?

[James S Cassidy]

By the way for all those complaining about Sakura, I am here to add my thing now

 

"Why is Hinata so useless? She is just stuck in the dreamworld. Man, why is everyone so useless? Even Ten-Ten. Everyone sucks. All they do is sit around and dream. This is bull. Why can't Hinata, Ten-Ten, and the rest of Konoha 11 be as strong as Naruto and Sasuke? This is bad writing, Kishi. Such bad writing."

XDDD

[catsi563]

I noticed the Headband falling off there.

 

Ive predicted long ago that the bench scene would be revisited, this scene tells me its coming soon. a forehead comment similar to chapter 3. Narutos mostlikely going to give her his headband to replace hers and make the forehead comment in the process.

[ramenanmitsu]

I can't believe I'm the only one who thinks that NS moment is the last thing I want right now.  

 

And what a classic H&E reaction. No convincing, no reasoning, and the "if-you-don't-agree-you-are-kitten" posts. 

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 11 June 2014 - 08:46 AM.