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[MangaReader]

We the good thing is this isn't getting out of hand like the past... People really need to get a grip

[James S Cassidy]

Okay. So after my laughter has stopped I am going to give my thoughts.

First, I am happy to find out that Killer Bee, Minato, Yamato, and etc are fine. I knew the spiral guy was Yamato. I wonder why Minato was so out of it unless it took him awhile to reform or something. The rules of the regeneration are weird. Why aren't the Edo Tensei affected by IT? That is interesting. I am wondering how this will play into the future. I am not really mad at Sasuke's Susanoo being able to block the IT, but we have to make Sasuke useful somehow. It makes sense since it is kind of an armor that the user can wear.

 

It was kind of cool, but creepy seeing people just get taken into the plant like that. Also funny how everyone affected gets a Rinnegan like...I wonder why that is.

Now, you are probably saying "Cut the crap, James, what about the NH moment?"

What about it? We have Hinata screaming "Naruto-kun" and the way the panel is set up suggests that he kind of "heard it," but is that really what it is? Everyone here was complaining about how the last two chapters were "too ambiguous to tell," but people now are saying "This is an NH moment indefinitely?" Come on, there is no way Naruto could have heard or even sensed Hinata specifically say that. They are not psychics and it is ridiculous to assume it was just her he was thinking of. Hell, he had the same reaction to Sakura getting stabbed last chapter. Should we count that chapter as an NS moment? Of course not.

Naruto was sensing everyone and I don't see how this is a NH moment. It is even more ambiguous than the last chapters. So I am going to say "Too ambiguous to tell." Unless Naruto says "Hinata is in trouble, I have to save her" I am going to assume he sensed everyone and Kishi is just playing games to throw people off. I am being serious too. I don't see anything here to be a NH moment.

I know what it "looks" like, but honestly, it doesn't feel like a moment.

 

 

James@ I'm with you I don't know if I should laugh or facepalm at people here freaking out. Okay so what if Naruto reacted to Hinata calling him, does that mean he will say" OMG Hinata called me I just realized I'm in love with her". Seriously people this is just like Kishi is throwing NH fans a bone, afterwards he will troll them saying" kitten u NS is the pairing I've been developing all this time".

 

Indeed. I am not worried at all.

Trust me, it was much worse with 615 and we survived that one. This is nothing compared to that.

You know, I really have to say. You really can sum up Hinata's entire character with "Naruto-kun."

Edited by James S Cassidy, 21 May 2014 - 08:49 AM.

[CloudMountainJuror]

So, aside from the obvious pairing pandering and anything else questionable present in the chapter, I do feel like pointing out something positive.

 

This imagery is pretty kittening cool:

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 21 May 2014 - 07:44 AM.

[Hanabi]

Wow.. the rinnegan look so bad on everyone. Only pain can pull off the look well enough

[CloudMountainJuror]

Wow.. the rinnegan look so bad on everyone. Only pain can pull off the look well enough

 

Madara's pulling off the look pretty well, too.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 21 May 2014 - 07:46 AM.

[redrose3443]

@Zac you just had to pick that creepy scene with Madara saying those messed up words.

 

Wait if Tenten had those ninja tools, why didn't she bring them out earlier?

Edited by redrose3443, 21 May 2014 - 07:51 AM.

[Hiraishin]

So, aside from the obvious pairing pandering and anything else questionable present in the chapter, I do feel like pointing out something positive.
 

This imagery is pretty kittening cool:

It really is. Making the same face, the third eye with Kaguya's third eye being the moon... Kishi did a fantastic job with that.

Edited by Hiraishin, 21 May 2014 - 07:53 AM.

[archangel]

Call me delusional or whatever but showing at Hinata before showing Naruto want to react is not worrying me on 1 bit. Choosing Hinata as the last character before going back to Naruto seems legit not for pairing moment but for drama alone. For me, Hinata is like the most gentle character in the manga, I mean it's the last character I see kill someone in a ninja world. So seeing her get grab by that jutsu added shock value.

 

Remember all the theory about how the Byakugan might be able to repel that genjutsu, well you wait up till the last character to kill that theory of. I might need to reread it but I didn't see it as a pairing moment.

 

This war might not have been NH developpement romance wise, but Hinata was kind of the moral support for Naruto in it (in Neji pointless death). Plus it's a little like pain but Naruto is conscious.

 

With that said though, some question need to be ask : Didn't none of the alliance had the Nine-tailes cloak. I mean wasn't it the 3rd vs Zetsu Tobi, if the 3rd fall it was over for the alliance.Tenten panel become pointless since she got caught in that genjutsu so why bother?

 

Though Naruto would be immune but no. So how do you fight Madara inside Susano'o Sasuke? Will they pull a Piccolo. The edo tensei are immune( since they are dead, no vital energy so no feeding) but are no match for madara who can injure them permanently and got Orochimaru in his genjutsu ( if he can control a body, Madara can make Orochimaru stop the edo tensei) 

 

And the big question, is Yamato immune too it? If so, he might be the key and finally do something in that story. If Yamato is immune, the 1st hokage cell can immune you from this, meaning  maybe Yamato and the 1st Hokage might be able to immune at least team 7. The fact that Zetsu doesn't seem to be affected by it could support that theory. 

 

Well good chapter, don't see a NH moment, maybe I'm wrong but at this point who cares . 1 chapter vs ........ too much chapter with NS moment so nope.

[Gojira]

This is my problem.

He shouldn't try to make people guessing, he should progressing the romance if he does like writing it as much as he says he does.

Just when I thought he was making actual progress and finally finishing the pairing wars so he can progress with an actual endgame relationship, he says "kitten it more cockteasing"

The problem is Kishi is treating his romance subplot like Don Bluth treats the plot of all his movies:

In that as long as there's a conclusion satisfactory or not it he can do whatever the kitten he wants beforehand therefore it automatically = good writing.

Its like if in The Avengers you spend the entire time with each of the charatcers separately than at the very, very end for five minutes they chat over a cup of coffee...I mean yeah its nice to see them finally interact but it sure as hell wasn't worth it especially not compared to such a huge missed opportunity as actually making it progress on its own.

[Hanabi]

i just noticed second hokage tobirama just stood by and let taka get sucked into the tree. lolll

 

Madara's pulling off the look pretty well, too.

madara's always laughing like the maniac that he is so it kinda ruins it for me. pain with his stoic face feels more of a villain than him imo.

Edited by Hanabi, 21 May 2014 - 08:02 AM.

[rocci]

@pepsi
Progressing like what? Can you give me an example.

[Heartsbattle]

I'd just like to add that is was nice to see Sai again. 

 

I know a lot of people don't consider him part of Team 7 but I like to think so. Yeah, yeah, I know he had the mad-eye disease or what ever but still cool. 

 

And of course Yamato too! 

 

I really hope we get to see a moment with ALL the members of Team 7 before the manga ends. 

[MoonDrop04]

Okay. So after my laughter has stopped I am going to give my thoughts.
First, I am happy to find out that Killer Bee, Minato, Yamato, and etc are fine. I knew the spiral guy was Yamato. I wonder why Minato was so out of it unless it took him awhile to reform or something. The rules of the regeneration are weird. Why aren't the Edo Tensei affected by IT? That is interesting. I am wondering how this will play into the future. I am not really mad at Sasuke's Susanoo being able to block the IT, but we have to make Sasuke useful somehow. It makes sense since it is kind of an armor that the user can wear.
 
It was kind of cool, but creepy seeing people just get taken into the plant like that. Also funny how everyone affected gets a Rinnegan like...I wonder why that is.

Now, you are probably saying "Cut the crap, James, what about the NH moment?"

What about it? We have Hinata screaming "Naruto-kun" and the way the panel is set up suggests that he kind of "heard it," but is that really what it is? Everyone here was complaining about how the last two chapters were "too ambiguous to tell," but people now are saying "This is an NH moment indefinitly." Come on, there is no way Naruto could have heard or even sensed Hinata specifically say that. They are no psychic and it is ridiculous to assume it was just her he was thinking of. Hell, he had the same reaction to Sakura getting stabbed last chapter. Should we count that chapter as an NS moment? Of course not.

Naruto was sensing everyone and I don't see how this is a NH moment. It is even more ambiguous than the last chapters. So I am going to say "Too ambiguous to tell." Unless Naruto says "Hinata is in trouble, I have to save her" I am going to assume he sensed everyone and Kishi is just playing games to throw people off. I am being serious too. I don't see anything here to be an NH moment.

I know what it "looks" like, but honestly, it doesn't feel like a moment.
 
 
 
Indeed. I am not worried at all.

Trust me, it was much worse with 615 and we survived that one. This is nothing compared to that.

You know, I really have to say. You really can sum up Hinata's entire character with "Naruto-kun."

I agree with this guy X) lol Kishi set this chapter up to show everyone being effected by the "light". And of course when it came to characters that mattered in the series he had to give them each their own dialogue of when it was happening like he usually does. And of coarse when it came to Hinata being shown in the panel, her dialogue words were of coarse....... Naruto-Kun. Lol

All in all from seeing all that it's clear naruto reacted to everyone being effected by the "light" and wanted to go help them. There is no need to think of pairing moments this week Thank God!!!

[redrose3443]

I didn't like the wasted panels on the daimyo and a freaking cat!

 

Gosh, we could have had more foreshadowing for the up coming battle or hell Kakashi saying something, but no we get a cat. The cat is kinda how I feel about Hinata right now.( I don't hate, she just seems to come in when it's unnecessary.)

[archangel]

By rereading it man only team 7 and the edo tensei left.

 

Yamato got rinnegan eye just when Tobi/Zetsu release him. 4th still got no arm and bee got the same reaction as Orochimaru and Sai, thought with those sunglasses we don't see the rinnegan, but if the sunglasses immune you from the jutsu, for the requirement to get it done, it's pretty lame. But Bee is near an 8 tails part so if that snap him out of it, it might confirm that Naruto might be able to be immune by it.

 

Zetsu hint that Sasuke rinnegan may be able to repel it, (so it's Susano'o is really to protect his team, nah more like to increase his chance to achieve victory:P)

 

Though team 7 is officially sitting duck out there.

[ramenanmitsu]

I don't see any NaruHina moment but I guess I should take a break from this site. I didn't even know or think that anything pairing related stuff happened until I saw the comments. And my honest reaction is "NH moment? Where?" I want to keep it this way.

If that was considered a NH moment, I guess Naruto appearing in the village after Sakura shouted out his name during the Pein Invasion should be considered a NS moment as well.

Oh well, au revoir!

[Gojira]

@pepsi
Progressing like what? Can you give me an example.

Its hard to explain, but moving the relationship forward, rather than being stuck on close friends with ambigious romantic feelings for each other. It feels like by the end of Part 1 they became friends then Part 2 came along and then they became best friends who are developing feelings for each other....then Sasuke became a main character again and we got caught up on him for a few story arcs, then LOR arc came around and had Kishi trying to tell us not to celebrate to early because SS is still a problem for NS and now its just sort of....eehhh

It feels like he stopped taking the relationship going forward step by step in favor of keeping readers with the waiting game. There are many ways to progress NS (or any other pairing in the narutoverse for that matter) forward and make it more interesting. You could have them confirm their feelings to each other, actually have a relationship see how this affects their life or teamwork or camaraderie. Hell hopefully maybe even we see how their family interacts how this actually goes (keep in mind these are minor examples I know Kishi likely wouldn't have gone this route either way). That's one thing I think Dragonball actually did well be it either Krillin and 18 or Gohan and Videl I think that was actually well done. But I just have this feeling that over a decade of cockteasing Kishi will just conclude it FMA or Rave style by confirming the pairing an peacing the kitten out. Its a pretty lazy way to go around it. Hell that's kind of what he did with the whole AsumaxKureani thing. They're just friends and then boom a baby girl.

[Gojira]

I'd just like to add that is was nice to see Sai again. 
 
I know a lot of people don't consider him part of Team 7 but I like to think so. Yeah, yeah, I know he had the mad-eye disease or what ever but still cool. 
 
And of course Yamato too! 
 
I really hope we get to see a moment with ALL the members of Team 7 before the manga ends. 

Don't worry despite this war being built up for several years as being the climax of the series we still have a few more years to go with the final story arc....the Naruto vs. Sasuke story arc that is likely going to parallel Hashirama and Madara. I predict we see Ultron fighting the Avengers before we see Naruto concluding.

[archangel]

Ten Ten and Bee will save the day. It seems that Bee did not fall for the Genjutsu, so Tenten will meet bee to tell her how to use the Ninja tools.

A good theory here. Probably could happen. Expcet I just wnat to know one thing, How Tenten would be immune to the genjutsu. Bee is like a jinchuruki, sitting near part of the 8 tails so I can accept that. Tenten, I would needed an explanation but that one panel was so conveniently add in this chapter for this to work that that event must now happen:P. And here I said that Tenten being caught in the genjutsu with all those nonja tools become irrelevant.

[Hiraishin]

@Pepsi
What's LOR?

I don't see any NaruHina moment but I guess I should take a break from this site. I didn't even know or think that anything pairing related stuff happened until I saw the comments. And my honest reaction is "NH moment? Where?" I want to keep it this way.

If that was considered a NH moment, I guess Naruto appearing in the village after Sakura shouted out his name during the Pein Invasion should be considered a NS moment as well.

Oh well, au revoir!

I don't consider it a moment. Tbh it's just a little irksome cause of the shipping pandering. And Kishi's insistence on focusing on Hinata and her "Naruto-kun." I don't see any point in that except if this is all a set-up to get Hinata to move on from her feelings.

Edited by Hiraishin, 21 May 2014 - 08:26 AM.