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#161 redrose3443

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:09 AM

So glad that we finally got to see Sakura using the full extent of the byakugo. Now any doubts about how far she can take the technique are finally cleared. I wish we could've seen her do more, but considering the circumstances there was not much a chance.

 

 

I'm pretty sure that's the reason Kishi put those panels in the first place. First you need to reintroduce the problem and then you can proceed to show the solution.

 

My guess, Sakura will be trapped in the infinite tsukuyomi in which her "dream" of being with Sasuke will come true. We know she doesn't love him like that anymore (675), but she has yet to realize it herself (540). The "dream" will take care of that problem.

 

It will probably involve a fake Sasuke being in love with her, but she keeps wondering why she isn't happy about it. She'll realize that she no longer needs to validate herself through Sasuke's opinion of her and that her feelings of love have changed towards friendship. At the same time she'll probably also realizes her love for Naruto and that his opinion of her has become what she truly values.

 

Then by the end of the manga after Sasuke becomes good again he'll probably acknowledge Sakura as a worthy teammate. That would give closure to the bond of Sasuke and Sakura. Sasuke can accept Sakura, and she can appreciate it even if she doesn't yearn for it anymore.

 That's similar to what I thought too. It would be perfect for her character development and closure towards Sasuke.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:09 AM

Great chapter!

 

I dunno if sasuke was going to kill sakura to br fair, he was aiming for madara


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:09 AM

No offense but:

1. Sakura had a plan, unlike Hinata and that was to create diversion.

2. Sakura KNEW that even if she doesn't stand a chance to win over him, she can create that diversion via Byakugo which takes her out of danger's way.

3. She did that while acting as a support mechanism, she let the others knew she was going, while Hinata just went there, no plan, no chance of survival, no teamwork involved or anything.

 

So sorry to say it, but we do have reasons to over-flatter her over Hinata, no offense.

thats right chatte hinata was as she said being selfish


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:10 AM

I love Sakura but I absolutely hate this thing she has for Sasuke. Really Kishi, where are you going with this. I swear if you make SS happen, I will cry. SS will kill Sakura. 


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:15 AM

You know, I tried to understand why SS fans were happy about that chapter and the previous one, and how they can take them as pro-SS moments, so I tried to see it with Naruto instead of Sakura and Sakura instead of Sasuke, and I have to say that if I had seen Kakashi stating that Naruto no longer loves Sakura how he used to and then on the next chapter Naruto making a heart-breaking sad face like Sakura did because she wouldn't care one bit about him.... Well, I would be more worried than happy. Especially with this week's chapter, at least 675 was back up with mistranslations everywhere, but there how can you twist Sakura's sadness with pure love?

 

I advise you to do the same as I do, see Naruto instead of Sakura and Sakura instead of Sasuke, you will see that it's really SS death and it's not based on biased opinion. 


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:15 AM

I love Sakura but I absolutely hate this thing she has for Sasuke. Really Kishi, where are you going with this. I swear if you make SS happen, I will cry. SS will kill Sakura. 

calm down kishi is literally destroying and making fun of the ship as it is. If he wanted to make it canon he wouldn't add negative developments after another, murder attempts after another.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:15 AM

I love Sakura but I absolutely hate this thing she has for Sasuke. Really Kishi, where are you going with this. I swear if you make SS happen, I will cry. SS will kill Sakura. 

That's what many of the fans hate. Not really your fault though. 


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:16 AM

@reddragon that would be cool, but infinite tsukuyomi creates an illusion of what the target desires, no? Unless it only creates an illusion of what the victim consciously desires, or thinks they do.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:19 AM

You know, I tried to understand why SS fans were happy about that chapter and the previous one, and how they can take them as pro-SS moments, so I tried to see it with Naruto instead of Sakura and Sakura instead of Sasuke, and I have to say that if I had seen Kakashi stating that Naruto no longer loves Sakura how he used to and then on the next chapter Naruto making a heart-breaking sad face like Sakura did because she wouldn't care one bit about him.... Well, I would be more worried than happy. Especially with this week's chapter, at least 675 was back up with mistranslations everywhere, but there how can you twist Sakura's sadness with pure love?

 

I advise you to do the same as I do, see Naruto instead of Sakura and Sakura instead of Sasuke, you will see that it's really SS death and it's not based on biased opinion. 

MAN, i just try to picture it and logically I can't cuz it kind of kill off NS for good  if the same event were to happen so yeah I agree SS is dead. (if it was alive in shippuden to begin with, I mean everytime Sasuke and Sakura are together, he tried to kill her, even on the same team , it's his 4th attempt. )


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:20 AM

You know, I tried to understand why SS fans were happy about that chapter and the previous one, and how they can take them as pro-SS moments, so I tried to see it with Naruto instead of Sakura and Sakura instead of Sasuke, and I have to say that if I had seen Kakashi stating that Naruto no longer loves Sakura how he used to and then on the next chapter Naruto making a heart-breaking sad face like Sakura did because she wouldn't care one bit about him.... Well, I would be more worried than happy. Especially with this week's chapter, at least 675 was back up with mistranslations everywhere, but there how can you twist Sakura's sadness with pure love?

 

I advise you to do the same as I do, see Naruto instead of Sakura and Sakura instead of Sasuke, you will see that it's really SS death and it's not based on biased opinion. 

I got the interchanging part. But I did not get what you meant to say. Can you please put that in more simpler terms?


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:25 AM

I got the interchanging part. But I did not get what you meant to say. Can you please put that in more simpler terms?

The person above you explained perfectly what I meant. If the same events happened to NS it would kill it. Could you see thoses events as good moments for NS?


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:28 AM

@reddragon that would be cool, but infinite tsukuyomi creates an illusion of what the target desires, no? Unless it only creates an illusion of what the victim consciously desires, or thinks they do.

 

I think the dream is based on conscious desires, but I really don't remember what are the specific detail of how it works.

 

I don't even know if everyone shares the same dream or if people live in their own personal worlds. I'm sure the dreams of many people clash so I don't think it's possible to accommodate everyone into one illusion.



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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:28 AM

Actually, the first page's posts should have spoilers. However, it seems either people keep forgetting about it or they're not putting them on purpose. Kinda makes me feel bad for the mods since they always have to edit them over and over again.

 

Yes, the first page should always have spoilers because of the possibility that people will accidently see chapter spoilers BEFORE they even get to click the links.

 

So, I will say this once again; all posts on the first page SHOULD have spoiler tags!

 

You can use spoilers by clicking on the green icon next to the Font box in your post editor ("Special BBCode"), and selecting "Spoiler".  Or you can code it in by hand:

[spoiler="title"] Spoiler text! [/spoiler]

 

So please use spoiler tags on the first page of a chapter thread!  If people keep breaking that rule, then we may have to do something.

 

Anyway, lecture over.  Back to the chapter!

 

It does look like Madara is about to envelope the world in Infinite Tsukuyomi.  Maybe Team 7 will be enveloped by it, but they have time to do something before they lose resistance to the illusion?

 

Damn, Sasuke was about to slice right through Sakura to get Madara.  Luckily Naruto saw the danger and saved her!  Poor Sakura, it does seem that she finally accepts that Sasuke is not the person she thought he was.  She already felt that she could not trust him, and I cannot see any way back for the SasuSaku ship.  How can there be a relationship between a guy who does not care about the girl, and a girl who cannot trust him?

 

Sasuke's actions raise a massive red flag.  He does still have some sort of bond with Naruto, but his actions toward Sakura should make everyone question what Sasuke's plans are.  He only really cares about himself, and perhaps Naruto, and you have to really wonder why he wants to become Hokage.  It's certainly not to protect other people, if Sakura is anything to go by!

 

It's looking more and more likely that Naruto and Sasuke will clash after Madara is taken care of.

 

Can't wait to see next week's chapter.  :happy:



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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:31 AM

The person above you explained perfectly what I meant. If the same events happened to NS it would kill it. Could you see thoses events as good moments for NS?

Oh alright! Now I got what you mean't to say. I had to refresh my page to see that post!


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:32 AM

Damn, that doesn't look like a stab, it looks like a foreshadow to something else!

 

Have someone here read Evangelion? The part where humans are being taken by the angels and they visualize their truest wishes in their hearts... We might have an SS something here, after all we'll finnaly enter Tsukuyomi world!! Or we can see an "I don't worry because I trust you" from Sasuke to Sakura, but that's almost platonic. But don't worry, last meal is still ours!

 

But i'm a bit sad, I wished Sakura had more action to show us.



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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:41 AM

Ok, let me comment on this one part that people seems to focus for the past 5 pages.

 

The idea is that they're Team 7 and they stick together. They help one another and back them up, as well as concerning one another. The beginning before Sakura went for it, she was thinking of Team 7, where she feels like she's on equal ground, so now she will help. Team 7 commence. She said she was going for diversion and she took a stab. Sasuke didn't react and instead, time to pull Zabuza to Haku action: use a diversion to strike twice. Noticed Naruto went up there, but then realized something's wrong, so he boost up to kick off Madara before much worse was going to happen. That's why you only see Naruto with "!!" before he boost up and kick off. Now, Sasuke was there in the same field as all others, but the main problem is that he shows no concern whatsoever to anything but himself. Put it this way, if Naruto and Kakashi get their ass kick, Sasuke will try to aim for Madara for the kill, but again, this is teamwork violation 101. This is Team 7 being reunited yet Sasuke shows no concern to the whole situation and keeps talking about the battle. Best example to realize the difference is Killer Bee's fight. Check the difference. It's not about pairing, it's about the team and Sasuke is breaking that badly. At this rate, there's more teamwork in Team Taka than today's 7. Saddening but what do you expect.

 

So pretty much, it's Team 7 working together but one don't see it like that instead body bags, hoping to bring some use to them.



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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:43 AM

can we just talk about how hot badass is Madara in the first panel with both rinnengans?  :chuckle:

and more to it, he noticed Sakura`s capability of doing the instaheal or whatever techique. I liked Madara this chapter. especially in the end @_@

 

but the real star of the chapter is definitely Sakura. though she was foreshadowed quite fast by NaruSasu fighting duo.. that`s sad. hope Kishi will make her shine again, especially when now it`s everything about genjutsu  :yes:

 

loved the NaruSaku saving panels. they are just so.. warm and caring

 

oh, Sasuke. even his face when raising a sword shows nothing but a determination to land a hit on Madara, no regrets about sacrificing Sakura or whatever comes into his way.

well, that`s pretty obvious after all his attempts to kill her.

 

I fail to understand even the slightest piece of SS logic about pro-SS moments in the latest chapters. it`s just impossible for me.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:46 AM

I don't care how bad kishi is at writing heroines/woman/romance/ whatever. He needs to give Sakura a better moment than that, people are still hating to the max, and this SS crap needs to be slaughtered. :mad:

 

He is hurting her character so much right now, whether he realizes it or not, and I am tired of it. She doesn't need to be god, but give her more action, get Sasuke out of her system, and make her into what she should be shown as right now; a heroine.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:04 AM

It was good chapter! I loved the Sakura parts. And I was very happy that once again Sasuke shows that he doesn't care. I am hoping somebody will call him out on all the BS he has done. I hope Kishi kills SasuSaku completly with IT!

 

Btv on other forums, some people are actully congratulating Sasuke. Because he was a "true ninja". :D Apperently not caring about your teammates is what makes a good ninja.  ;) And the usual: Sakura is useless bla bla bla.

 

And apperently there was this huge SS moment in this chapter! :) It seams SS fans don't care that it was 100% negative. :D


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:04 AM

I should have thought about Black Zetsu doing the Kamui. No idea why that didn't cross my mind. I hope Obito is not truly dead. That got to suck to know the truth and then, death. Need that final closure. We'll see. It seems like Madara don't play anymore and go straight to the final plan. So it's not like he went one against all, rather create a diversion in order to prepare for it, which he did. So yeah, now well, it seems like it's up to Sasuke if he cut him off or it will be too late. Preview suggests Naruto doing something, but we'll see.






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