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[MangaReader]

It still begs the question on why continue to develop her with Naruto's relationship if friendship is supposedly the limit. People can say she's the main character, but Kishi could easily work his out to make them stay that way with no dropping hints, no teases, and many more, yet he still did it. Now in the movie, he made it worse to make it seem like they can be more. What gives?

I used friendship, but the real term used by Haku was one most precious to you (or multiple in Naruto's case, but their's one special one we all know about). So, taking that into account, it doesn't end at friendship. Heck deceased Dan somehow brought out a whole new level for Tsunade

Edited by MangaReader, 17 May 2013 - 05:14 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I don't know why, but maybe because it's only 3 chapters in of this volume, but I feel like Sakura is going to have one resolution in this volume. I just don't know why. I mean she has been surfacing a lot for the past 3 chapters, so will it continue? Looks that way.

She's only being romance driven development, now did she got development? because we all knew she was like that before, but she give the speech and her speech was even beyond Hinata's and Naruto's speech, because she did understood what Naruto said and most importantly it must have break that barrier about "her not doing nothing for Naruto" because she now knows he acknowledged her too, as his comrade sicne he relied on her powers too along with everyone else.
Her speech downgraded 615 even more to be just what Sakura said "Naruto acknowledged everyone as his comrades" so it already kills oof that argument about Naruto only thanked Hinata.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 May 2013 - 05:17 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

She's definitely going to be featured hard in this volume. And think about it at the 2010 JF Kishi said Kakashi and then Sakura. Look at the events...while Kakashi is receiving resolution, Sakura becomes more prominent...coincidence much?
If it's not now, the next volume for sure.

Indeed. Also, I feel that if we don't get to see the Kages (current), then there will be to be developed for Sakura as well as Naruto. It seems too good to be true that these two are sticking together to the very end as well as having so much possibilities to grow together. It's not like Sasuke will stay with them; he will probably leave once the business is done. Anyway, right now it does feel too good to be true. I should just wait and keep low expectations as I have.

[Inferno180]

I really just had an interesting thought, if obito pulls a Nagato type redemption, and bring neji back, would that have instantly nullified the theme of 615, sacrifice? I mean neji had to die for hinata to get her development. Kakashi and sakura however, their speeches were based on morals and bonds. I can clearly say its good to have these developments when it does not need to come at the cost of another. Well there are many themes but these things all happened to push naruto where he is. Not to mention without 615s event sakura would not have gained her own great speech here. Still not sure if the 615 reaction was answered but it could be debated that again, hinatas events could have propelled sakura, kinda like how sakura discovering hinatas feelings for naruto in pain could be debated. But these are subjects that could sadly get messy.

With vol 65 definately being Sasuke and most likely hashirama and Madara on the cover, no idea what it would be for volume 66. Maybe itachi will also be on the cover of 65 just for the theme of brotherhood and sacrifice both hashirama and Madara had to face.

[HauntedCake]

Indeed. Also, I feel that if we don't get to see the Kages (current), then there will be to be developed for Sakura as well as Naruto. It seems too good to be true that these two are sticking together to the very end as well as having so much possibilities to grow together. It's not like Sasuke will stay with them; he will probably leave once the business is done. Anyway, right now it does feel too good to be true. I should just wait and keep low expectations as I have.

Wow, this seem very negative for you narusaku4life. Why too good to be true?

[bthug]

Couple of quick questions folks

1) Has it been shown where Sakura has been this entire time? How or why does she show up at the same time as Minato?
2) Do you think their is to much going on for any NS moments? I mean we might not need "moments" but we sure need bigger development scenes.
3) How far behind is the anime compared to the manga?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Wow, this seem very negative for you narusaku4life. Why too good to be true?

Well I was playing it backwards for you guys, so your expectations can lower down before feeling upmost disappointment. Nevertheless, it does have that 614 vibe. Well not exact, but the idea that left Naruto and Hinata standing side-by-side before going next chapter did leave potential and regardless that 615 is not truly a romantic moment from both side, mainly Naruto, it still happened with a development for Hinata. We don't know how long Sakura stands by Naruto to heal, but the more it takes, the moment more she's going to get out of, and now, we have Minato's arrival. That's pretty big to start off with. Now everyone is extremely excited, both pairing and general fans, but for now, I'm focusing on pairing fans.

The setup seems so good for NS to make it a win and kill two birds with one stone. That said it's best to keep it low because we can only feel disappointment if you raise the bar too high. Right now, I want everyone to be on a normal bar, where you just wait and see what's next. Yes, the setup seems too perfect, but let's wait on how it plays out.

[Inferno180]

Couple of quick questions folks

1) Has it been shown where Sakura has been this entire time? How or why does she show up at the same time as Minato?
2) Do you think their is to much going on for any NS moments? I mean we might not need "moments" but we sure need bigger development scenes.
3) How far behind is the anime compared to the manga?

1. Sakura was always present since the alliance arrived. She gained the chakra cloak offscreen. After narutos chakra faded, he was wounded. The remaining alliance members prepare to defend him, hinata said to combine their power. The. We get the alliance scared cause the ten tails was going to fore the mother of all beast bombs. Sakura gave them the speech, then minato arrives. He just landed by naruto who happened to still be busy by sakura cause he needed to be healed.

2. It can, it still can happen, the set up with minato can cause something, otherwise, until Sasuke is resolved naruto and sakura will get moreninteraction and development.

3 about 70-80 chapters as of right now. The anime is in a long filler hell, Madara being released is the big thing this season but for now, it's focused on filler characters brought back by the edo tensi.

[Atheck]

Couple of quick questions folks

1) Has it been shown where Sakura has been this entire time? How or why does she show up at the same time as Minato?

Sakura was apparently amongst the crowd of alliance forces the entire time. For some unforeseen reasoning Kishi simply decided against depicting her receiving the chakra enhancement over ten chapters previously. Recently she has been making more appearances and currently she is restoring Naruto's chakra. Why is she coincidentally situated next to Naruto as Minato is arriving onto the battlefield, you ask? It could be attributed to sheer luck or circumstance. Perhaps there is an ulterior motive for Kishi placing her so close to Minato. To affirm the parallel that has been strongly intimated as existing between Sakura and Kushina. Or maybe it is to establish additional understanding of Naruto's background in Sakura's mind. She is undoubtedly surprised by the sudden arrival of a man whom by what information she has should be deceased.

2) Do you think their is to much going on for any NS moments? I mean we might not need "moments" but we sure need bigger development scenes.

It's definitely possible and the interaction between Sakura and Naruto could be perceived as NS moments. Not in a romantic context, mind you, but it's interaction between two individuals who deeply trust each other and are working together amidst the carnage of war. That's my personal perspective of events at least. I solemnly hope that that will change soon with the arrival of Minato and the potential affirmation of the SakuKushi parallel.

3) How far behind is the anime compared to the manga?

I believe it has reached the point where Madara is being summoned to turn the tide of the war in Akastuki's favour.

[六道仙人]

just read the 630 once again... Funny that Naruto assumed the poker face even when the kunai hit the ground and Sakura was been surprised from it.

[James S Cassidy]

I had a thought.

Do we want Naruto to save Sasuke or not? Usually, when I see manga/anime like this and a character who was once good turns evil it turns into a moment of "Only you can save them" said to the or a main character. It has happened many of times so it is not cliche. Kaze No Stigma did it, Inuyasha, etc. (This especially happens in love triangles where one girl tells the other in anger at how stupid she is that she doesn't realize her importance to him.)

The way everything is written so far and the possibilities people keep bringing up it seems like "Everybody, BUT Naruto is gonna save Sasuke" and I find this a bummer cause it feels like it is going up against what the whole manga was trying to set up. There is this idea that Sasuke is going to change when he sees Madara and fight against him and he said he is gonna fight for Konoha's behalf not because he wants to, but because he wants to respect Itachi's wishes. It's almost anti-climatic because we half expected Naruto to stop Sasuke from his evil ways and here we have Itachi who is mostly doing it.

I can even say that Itachi did the trope "Tempted fate" by telling Naruto "I am leaving everything to you" and then ends up doing everything later on anyway and even affecting Sasuke to this day. Something really interesting must be in plans because if there isn't, Sasuke redemption is going to be really shallow. And Yeah, I have heard people say "But he is only saving it for Itachi's sake," I don't accept this as an answer because he could easily NOT destroy Konoha for Itachi's sake and just stayed away from the village, but this was his plan for a while. There is just too many holes in this bucket to keep holding water. If Sasuke isn't evil by the time of the end of the battle, then he has nothing to be redeemed from.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 17 May 2013 - 06:48 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

just read the 630 once again... Funny that Naruto assumed the poker face even when the kunai hit the ground and Sakura was been surprised from it.

Not going to lie, but I think I would love a tsundere moment in here. I mean Naruto sure played it cool and if he says something like he knew he was coming, I can imagine Sakura getting a bit temper by either yelling at him with the comedic face or push his back forward hard. It didn't stop Ino making a face, so yeah. Still, I wonder how Naruto even knows this.

I had a thought.

Do we want Naruto to save Sasuke or not? Usually, when I see manga/anime like this and a character who was once good turns evil it turns into a moment of "Only you can save them" said to the or a main character. It has happened many of times so it is not cliche. Kaze No Stigma did it, Inuyasha, etc. (This especially happens in love triangles where one girl tells the other in anger at how stupid she is that she doesn't realize her importance to him.)

The way everything is written so far and the possibilities people keep bringing up it seems like "Everybody, BUT Naruto is gonna save Sasuke" and I find this a bummer cause it feels like it is going up against what the whole manga was trying to set up. There is this idea that Sasuke is going to change when he sees Madara and fight against him and he said he is gonna fight for Konoha's behalf not because he wants to, but because he wants to respect Itachi's wishes. It's almost anti-climatic because we half expected Naruto to stop Sasuke from his evil ways and here we have Itachi who is mostly doing it.

I can even say that Itachi did the trope "Tempted fate" by telling Naruto "I am leaving everything to you" and then ends up doing everything later on anyway and even affecting Sasuke to this day. Something really interesting must be in plans because if there isn't, Sasuke redemption is going to be really shallow. And Yeah, I have heard people say "But he is only saving it for Itachi's sake," I don't accept this as an answer because he could easily NOT destroy Konoha for Itachi's sake and just stayed away from the village, but this was his plan for a while. There is just too many holes in this bucket to keep holding water. If Sasuke isn't evil by the time of the end of the battle, then he has nothing to be redeemed from.

True. If Sasuke appears in the next chapter, I want to hear his full reason and confirm whether he's truly good or he just don't want Madara overcome him with the plan. I mean if everyone loses to him, then what. Sasuke can't do what he wants.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I had a thought.

Do we want Naruto to save Sasuke or not? Usually, when I see manga/anime like this and a character who was once good turns evil it turns into a moment of "Only you can save them" said to the or a main character. It has happened many of times so it is not cliche. Kaze No Stigma did it, Inuyasha, etc. (This especially happens in love triangles where one girl tells the other in anger at how stupid she is that she doesn't realize her importance to him.)

The way everything is written so far and the possibilities people keep bringing up it seems like "Everybody, BUT Naruto is gonna save Sasuke" and I find this a bummer cause it feels like it is going up against what the whole manga was trying to set up. There is this idea that Sasuke is going to change when he sees Madara and fight against him and he said he is gonna fight for Konoha's behalf not because he wants to, but because he wants to respect Itachi's wishes. It's almost anti-climatic because we half expected Naruto to stop Sasuke from his evil ways and here we have Itachi who is mostly doing it.

I can even say that Itachi did the trope "Tempted fate" by telling Naruto "I am leaving everything to you" and then ends up doing everything later on anyway and even affecting Sasuke to this day. Something really interesting must be in plans because if there isn't, Sasuke redemption is going to be really shallow. And Yeah, I have heard people say "But he is only saving it for Itachi's sake," I don't accept this as an answer because he could easily NOT destroy Konoha for Itachi's sake and just stayed away from the village, but this was his plan for a while. There is just too many holes in this bucket to keep holding water. If Sasuke isn't evil by the time of the end of the battle, then he has nothing to be redeemed from.

He really had any reasons to be evil and was bashed because of this, but the problem is that also he had any reasons to be redeemed like that, he does not have the need to become "good" but goes for another way after all the things that happened would be reasonable for him to also seek a way to peace or change the world as he wants and because of that he would continue his route until Naruto remind him that FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC, as to continue your thoughts his redemption is indeed shallow not because of what happened but because Itachi was his solely reason the team 7 and his former friends were not even noticed.
Itachi seemed like Obito's Rin.

Since the stuff with Sasuke is so crazy that i think he will demand to be Hokage and will oppose Naruto, they will fight he gets weakened and Sasuke is kidnapped by Orochimaru and Naruto has to rescue him once again from Neverland.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 May 2013 - 07:07 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

True. If Sasuke appears in the next chapter, I want to hear his full reason and confirm whether he's truly good or he just don't want Madara overcome him with the plan. I mean if everyone loses to him, then what. Sasuke can't do what he wants.

I have a bad feeling either way. This is why I never liked Sasuke's story because he was never pushed beyond the line. He steps on the line, but never seems to cross it. If Sasuke has truly turned good, you can kiss the great Naruto vs Sasuke fight goodbye because it ain't happening. (And them fighting over who gets to be the next Hokage is not an interesting story to read. It's like Madara's and Hashirama's story in reverse.)

He really had any reasons to be evil and was bashed because of this, but the problem is that also he had any reasons to be redeemed like that, he does not have the need to become "good" but goes for another way after all the things that happened would be reasonable for him to also seek a way to peace or change the world as he wants and because of that he would continue his route until Naruto remind him that FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC, as to continue your thoughts his redemption is indeed shallow not because of what happened but because Itachi was his solely reason the team 7 and his former friends were not even noticed.

It's sadder still when you can't even decide whether a redemption is necessary or not and whether or not the main character did anything at all.

Itachi seemed like Obito's Rin.

It's funny because if you think about this the manga sets up these brother bonds kind of thing, but whenever they mention this it was never about actual genetic brothers. In fact, it seems the bonds between real brothers didn't matter. It ended up being about two good friends who saw eachother as brothers: Madara and Hashirama, Naruto and Sasuke, Orochimaru and Jiraiya, Obito and Kakashi. The only true real brotherly bond expressed was Itachi and Sasuke, but other than that no other stand off involved actual brothers.

Since the stuff with Sasuke is so crazy that i think he will demand to be Hokage and will oppose Naruto, they will fight he gets weakened and Sasuke is kidnapped by Orochimaru and Naruto has to rescue him once again from Neverland.

Which is a dumb idea. "I hate Konoha so much for killing my clan, that I demand to be it's Hokage." Ummm....no.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 17 May 2013 - 07:16 PM.

[TrueSacrifice]

Sakura was apparently amongst the crowd of alliance forces the entire time. For some unforeseen reasoning Kishi simply decided against depicting her receiving the chakra enhancement over ten chapters previously. Recently she has been making more appearances and currently she is restoring Naruto's chakra. Why is she coincidentally situated next to Naruto as Minato is arriving onto the battlefield, you ask? It could be attributed to sheer luck or circumstance. Perhaps there is an ulterior motive for Kishi placing her so close to Minato. To affirm the parallel that has been strongly intimated as existing between Sakura and Kushina. Or maybe it is to establish additional understanding of Naruto's background in Sakura's mind. She is undoubtedly surprised by the sudden arrival of a man whom by what information she has should be deceased.

Not very likely. Stories don't operate on luck or circumstance. Kishimoto has placed her there for a reason. The exact nature of that reason is unknown as of yet, but I am sure it has to do with the relationship between Naruto and Sakura, romantic or otherwise.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I have a bad feeling either way. This is why I never liked Sasuke's story because he was never pushed beyond the line. He steps on the line, but never seems to cross it. If Sasuke has truly turned good, you can kiss the great Naruto vs Sasuke fight goodbye because it ain't happening. (And them fighting over who gets to be the next Hokage is not an interesting story to read. It's like Madara's and Hashirama's story in reverse.)

That's true. I just hope this whole thing turns out good (you know what I mean). I mean so far, this volume has been going well as well as new answers (truth behind Obito's reason and Rin's fate), so I hope things can only get better with confirming about Sasuke still not fully done as well as the fight with Naruto will happen. I hope everything gets handled well.

[StriderC]

Sakura was apparently amongst the crowd of alliance forces the entire time. For some unforeseen reasoning Kishi simply decided against depicting her receiving the chakra enhancement over ten chapters previously. Recently she has been making more appearances and currently she is restoring Naruto's chakra. Why is she coincidentally situated next to Naruto as Minato is arriving onto the battlefield, you ask? It could be attributed to sheer luck or circumstance. Perhaps there is an ulterior motive for Kishi placing her so close to Minato. To affirm the parallel that has been strongly intimated as existing between Sakura and Kushina. Or maybe it is to establish additional understanding of Naruto's background in Sakura's mind. She is undoubtedly surprised by the sudden arrival of a man whom by what information she has should be deceased.



It's definitely possible and the interaction between Sakura and Naruto could be perceived as NS moments. Not in a romantic context, mind you, but it's interaction between two individuals who deeply trust each other and are working together amidst the carnage of war. That's my personal perspective of events at least. I solemnly hope that that will change soon with the arrival of Minato and the potential affirmation of the SakuKushi parallel.



I believe it has reached the point where Madara is being summoned to turn the tide of the war in Akastuki's favour.

Her being right there is completely understandable IMO considering she's always been one to find out soooo much in regards to Naruto.

1. Akatsuki
2. Tailed Beasts

...are two good examples of this. Out of the rookies, she's the one to find out such things that goes on with Naruto that are on a deeper level than a lot of other characters. I feel it's that she's right there with Naruto when he finally meets his dad IRL. Hopefully we get some insight on her thoughts. I actually feel like that in itself is almost a given considering she's right there. No more blank dialogue boxes Kishi!!

Talking about it is actually getting me a bit excited! It seems like the chapter wasn't just released for some reason...- The waittttttttttt!!

As for the bolded, I definitely agree with you. They're not romantic, but they're still just as awesome. A SakuKushi parallel would definitely be most desired for sure. This setup couldn't be anymore perfect IMO.

[六道仙人]

I still don't undestand the meaning of the prophecy...

[rocci]

I think narusasu battle will become VOTE 2.0

@narusaku4life
Even if minato don't mention about kushisaku parallel, there still rinsaku parallel from obito, kakashi, and minato.

[StriderC]

I have a bad feeling either way. This is why I never liked Sasuke's story because he was never pushed beyond the line. He steps on the line, but never seems to cross it. If Sasuke has truly turned good, you can kiss the great Naruto vs Sasuke fight goodbye because it ain't happening. (And them fighting over who gets to be the next Hokage is not an interesting story to read. It's like Madara's and Hashirama's story in reverse.)



It's sadder still when you can't even decide whether a redemption is necessary or not and whether or not the main character did anything at all.



It's funny because if you think about this the manga sets up these brother bonds kind of thing, but whenever they mention this it was never about actual genetic brothers. In fact, it seems the bonds between real brothers didn't matter. It ended up being about two good friends who saw eachother as brothers: Madara and Hashirama, Naruto and Sasuke, Orochimaru and Jiraiya, Obito and Kakashi. The only true real brotherly bond expressed was Itachi and Sasuke, but other than that no other stand off involved actual brothers.



Which is a dumb idea. "I hate Konoha so much for killing my clan, that I demand to be it's Hokage." Ummm....no.

It's worse considering being Hokage is the furtherest thing from what Sasuke has ever wanted. If he had expressed a desire to become hokage in the beginning then sure, I'd bite but that's not the case.