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[StriderC]

I can't wait to do some edits.
Lately I've been doing these kinds of things.

@NS4L3G sure, will let you guys know! ^^

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Great chapter. Sakura is really caring girl. So I am only one who noticed , that Sakura’s action towards Naruto , are similar what Itachi said about Minato and Kushina? Minato had Kushina and his other friends. Naruto have Sakura and his other friends.

Sweet! I'll definitely have to check some of it out.

Well, I need to crash. It's freakin 4:20 am! T_T My hours for sleep have dwindledddddd!! Gosh, I wish we had the next chapter right now!!

[soraandven]

also we can't forget how good the anime team made that talk and had sakura show up first in his mind when itachi said never forget your friends

[Chatte]

also we can't forget how good the anime team made that talk and had sakura show up first in his mind when itachi said never forget your friends

Yes yes yes, that too!
OMG I AM SO FANGIRLING!!!!!

[soraandven]

in fact here

[Codus N]

LOL The manga doesn't resolve around NS for me either. Notice I said Sakura. I enjoy Sakura's character. I put her character before NS to be quite honest. I feel like Kakashi is actually quite developed. Looking through the manga and seeing all that he's done, it's definitely a lot, and he's more than decent IMO. Then his story with Obito is being resolved right now. We didn't know much about Sakura in the beginning, and we didn't know anything about her parents for the longest time. They still haven't been introduced in the manga. Her development is sometimes not consistent either, but still, I very much enjoy her character. Hopefully things stay on the up and up for her.

Again, I'm not expecting anything....

Oh, so you want me to address the bad in my post when that's what I'm not particularly excited about? Just because I'm not outright posting about the possible bad things in my posts doesn't mean I'm not aware that things could possibly go wrong. This is the first chapter I've been very happy about with Sakura in quite awhile, so of course, I'm looking forward to what's around the corner. I'm well aware that there's a great possibility that what I want to happen will likely not happen. I'm not "overly confident" about anything but what I do feel is that IF Kishi decides to give us NSM moments, it'll be likely legitimate, and the timing couldn't be anymore perfect.

Anyway, you're free to feel however you want but that's not gonna change how anxious I am to see what's to come and how I feel about the "awesome possibilities".

First bolded, do you mean by his contributions to the manga?? if so, then yes, I agree. But for his personal development?? I disagree. You can count on one hand how much personal development he has compared to Sakura.

Second, Let me just say this, one word. One word can go a long way to describe one's opinions. I won't say you're at fault, but I do want you to know that if you're going to say something, make sure the words perfectly say what you're thinking.

Third, I won't disagree with this. Parental approval will seal the deal for me. It could happen, but don't go expecting it to happen the very next chapter. That's just too unrealistic for me, IMO. What I believe will happen more likely is a father-son moment as Kishi seems to favor that more than NS bond. Proof?? RTN.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

A.W.E.S.O.M.E

I even had to reread the chapter because i could not believe it.

[Chatte]

Also, I feel so confident that Shikamaru reacted to Sakurațs speech. I mean he is a big impact in Naruto's life and he was the first to react to her speech. That is a big plus to me, dunno about you guys.

[Gravenimage]

You know what Sakura's speech was way better than Hinata's. It may have been short but at least she didn't repeat it from someone else. And also she just found out and everyone on the field that the fourth is Naruto's father and I actually expected this was going to happen. That Minato will be right by his son's
side (I will be waiting eagerly for him to say something about Sakura comparing her to Kushina ). All in all it was a great chapter.

Edited by Gravenimage, 15 May 2013 - 09:37 AM.

[soraandven]

thats right gravenimage and that is what makes her outshine hinata yet again

[Chatte]

Btw, funny how when Kakashi said about refusing the feelings it's this panel with Naruto and Sakura. Reference how Naruto refused Sakura's confession, maybe? And how he'll make them accept them leading to Naruto's acceptance of Sakura's love?

[StriderC]

First bolded, do you mean by his contributions to the manga?? if so, then yes, I agree. But for his personal development?? I disagree. You can count on one hand how much personal development he has compared to Sakura.

Second, Let me just say this, one word. One word can go a long way to describe one's opinions. I won't say you're at fault, but I do want you to know that if you're going to say something, make sure the words perfectly say what you're thinking.

Third, I won't disagree with this. Parental approval will seal the deal for me. It could happen, but don't go expecting it to happen the very next chapter. That's just too unrealistic for me, IMO. What I believe will happen more likely is a father-son moment as Kishi seems to favor that more than NS bond. Proof?? RTN.

1. And how much "personal development" has Sakura gotten compared to her team? Better yet, what do you consider personal development? Let me grasp this before I delve any further here.

2. I said exactly what I felt at that given time and that's not gonna change. Just because it wasn't written in my comment doesn't mean it's out of sight. I'm not worried about the bad right now to be perfectly honest because Sakura's finally doing something. Even if something bad happens, that's not gonna stop me from disliking a chapter. I've thought about the possibility of Sakura getting injured and everything in between but because I'm uber excited about the possibilities of what's to come. Another thing you should take note of. BAD possibilities can still very well be AWESOME. I love angst. Loved that confession Sakura made given it gave us a lot to talk about. It was bittersweet. Good AND bad, and yet, still VERY AWESOME.

3. Why do you keep saying I'm expecting it when I'm not? I don't really care if Kishi favors the father-son relationship more than the NS bond. As long as Sakura's being developed along with other characters I'm interested in, it really doesn't matter to me. As I've said before to you, I'm a SAKURA fan before I'm a NS fan.

[HauntedCake]

Watched all of SAO last night. Maybe that has rubbed off onto naruto

[kidNinja]

HELL YEAH! THIS is what I'm talking about!

Remember when I said I wasn't worried about 615 and that it was gut-check time? Well all of those who jumped ship are swimming back now.





THIS is why they say it ain't over til its over! Of course, I won't celebrate just yet. There's still a ways to go unless the MinaKushi parallel comes up soon followed by a NS kiss right after the war is over.




Also, NH fans are FURIOUS right now. Lololololol

[soraandven]

wow really i haven't actually sat down and streamed SAO yet but thats good to know heh

[Chatte]

What is SAO?

[Gravenimage]

What is SAO?

Sword Art Online it's a very good anime.

[soraandven]

what are they saying kidninja? do tell

[Chatte]

Backing off, lol

"“Naruto, I’ve always been chasing you, even now. But ounce this war is over, I’ll be next ri you, holding your hand, walking with you!” ~ Hinata

” Naruto, you’re always left with all the hard work. But next time, I…. Everyone will be fighting together!”

Its safe to say both of these have come to pass. Now, Hinata’s monologue & speech were both romantic. Hinata saying “it’s time you stood with me, Narito” & Naruto afterwards holding her hand and thanking her.

Sakura’s, on the other hand is not romantic, but rather, it’s friendship. Notice in her speech she says that we’re all comrades fighting together. Notice how Naruto, rather than doing everything on his own, is now relying on others, and Sakura, which was hinted at in her speech.

Both of the their speeches are two different things. Anyone who can’t see that has to take their shipper goggles off."

What no one took notice off is while Hinata said I'll stop chasing after you, Sakura said "we'll be together"
Dat sneaky Kishi...

[Gravenimage]

what are they saying kidninja? do tell

I'd rather not know.

[Atheck]

What an interesting chapter. As with everyone else the primary interest was seeing how Sakura was able to encourage everyone to continue fighting regardless of the severity of the situation. It has been a considerably long period since she received any noteworthy screen time and this chapter truly was a welcome addition. To see Sakura providing her words in that manner makes this chapter very much worth the wait. Then there is the final segment of the chapter where Minato appears next to her and Naruto; the man who is literally Naruto's father, the 4th Hokage, and probably one of only a few individuals who could provide some potential insight into who Naruto will end up with (there is the most logical possibility of NS but having the father of one of the parents reinforce it by giving their support would be tremendously beneficial). Sakura, you can not relent with healing alone. Your contribution here will overtake those of others, I believe, as it functions for an astronomically more significant purpose of resuscitating Naruto, but do not stop there. Please Kishi, allow her the honour of fighting here as it has been so long since we last witnessed Sakura in combat.

To be quite honest, Sakura is beginning to resemble Tsunade quite a bit with her restoring Naruto's chakra in that posture she has.

Sakura's amazingness aside, was anyone else disappointed to see that the rest of the alliance was not in rendered unconscious as many presumed them to be? To see the amount of shinobi within the alliance gradually diminish over the course of the battle really contributed to the hopelessness of the situation and it really emphasized their weakening, but unfaltering resistance. Of course that ambiance is still there, it's just not as effective as it would have been had that small barricade of shinobi had truly been the final line of defense before Naruto. However, that may have potentially given Hinata even more exorbitant amounts of screen time, depriving others such as Ino of theirs in the process, so perhaps this was for the best.

Oh yes, that brings me to another point. Was anyone else disturbed by the easiness of everyone learning a Doton ninjutsu? Of course it was merely a basic technique but from my interpretation of Kakashi's explanation of elemental manipulation it appeared as though that the element in question needed to be the potential user's own type. Without that natural proclivity they would be unable to learn how to harness that element. Well that notion was apparently incorrect. I cannot say that it didn't feel as though that the value of elemental exclusivity was cheapened with this chapter. For Naruto it required days and the usage of a highly dangerous training technique to understand how to finally utilize his element. Yet now we are supposed to believe that everyone is capable of performing a particular form of manipulation without any prior training? I believe Kishi made an inaccuracy in this regard; or at the very least it undermines the value of elemental exclusivity and all of those who had to train arduously just to learn how to use their elements.

Tobi versus Kakashi has become an incessant exchange of ideological and moral rhetoric. There is a time for character and plot development but considering that this a shonen I believe that fighting should assume some level of precedence. The again, this is definitely one of the most important and sensitive situations in the entire manga. Tobi is the entire reason that events began as they did in the first place.

Well on an unrelated note it seems like Tobi's "hole" may not be a illusion at all. That is unless Tobi layered an additional genjutsu on top of the one he created with Rin and his younger self to tempt Kakashi. Which brings me to yet another point. Tobi really is placing value in the opinion of his former comrade. Here he is endeavouring to persuade Kakashi that the world they currently reside in is wrought with nothing but turmoil and affliction. Of course Kakashi is rejecting it but it truly exemplifies the contradiction in Tobi's previous statement about not being concerned with anyone's opinion; believing them to be an artificial construct that is not the original variants of themselves. It has since been made perfectly clear that he does value it. Whether that is a product of malice towards Kakashi or subconscious endearment for his previous friend is unclear.

I can't deny that there isn't any validity to Tobi's statement. At least when it comes to himself. Kakashi has companions, a life, and a future. Tobi has none of those things. He has essentially devoted his entire life to the Moon's Eye Plan and the aspirations which Madara influenced him to look towards. In the process he created a terrorist organization that has put the stability of the nations in jeopardy, instigated a full scale war against all five great nations, and has brought about the deaths of thousands. Even if the alliance were to implement into political/judicial/military practice Naruto's ideals that would not and should not exonerate a man who is basically the entire reason for the most significant detriments occurring today (following Madara and the Older Son's actions of course). I mean could anyone actually picture Tobi giving up his plans which he has been striving for for decades and simply returning to Konoha without any protest being made? What or who would he have left to return to?

Kakashi references his companions, that a person should take into consideration their feelings. Well then what about Tobi's? That notion goes both ways. The only arguing point that Kakashi has at that moment is majority opinion and when I was last aware none of them were Tobi's friends. The closest thing to friends that he's had for most of his life are a dualistic plant monster with a bad habit of making jokes related to bowel movements, a traumatized genocidal man who believed he was god, a deluded murderous shark man who was ironically looking to achieve the opposite of what he was espousing for, his assisting partner in the Uchiha massacre who was actually attempting to thwart his plans, two immortal freaks that he never really interacted with, a woman who was also severely traumatized by war but who was more interested in reinforcing the fantasies of her childhood companion, and lastly a sociopathic bomber who constantly berated and attacked him while treating him like an inferior. Mind you, most of these people are now dead and even when they were all still alive Tobi was assuming the persona of a naive recruit who had only just joined so the amount of people that he might have befriended from those referenced would have decreased further. Of course there's also the issue that several of them were either untrustworthy spies like Itachi or defectors like Nagato and Konan who didn't care much for Tobi's opinion when they assumed their moral positions.

Tobi was definitely considering their opinions when he persuaded some like Kisame and Nagato to join. In fact when it comes to Kisame and Zetsu it appears that they both may have been fully aware of the MEP and consented to helping regardless. Knowing that you have nothing left but the idealistic rhetoric of someone whom you knew almost twenty years ago. Knowing that everyone else that you befriended or were associated with has been killed, I can't blame Tobi entirely for wanting to achieve the illusion world. The entire world is against him now and excluding Kakashi, possibly Black Zetsu as well if he's still alive, there's no one remaining who he cares about (if he even cares about Zetsu in the first place). He's got nothing left to lose.

Nice to see Killer Bee BTW. The fact that Minato has appeared on the battlefield has just opened up a myriad of possibilities since the two of them are now on the same side. Fate has a funny way of presenting itself.