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#161 StrikerTheNoble

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:23 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 23 2013, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Trying not to be but comparing it to 615, Hinata gets a full chapter on panel "romance"

NS gets off panel fan service...

Sorry just saying it how i see it


*cough* correction

Hinata gets on panel "development"

NS gets Sakura and some development + foreshadowing.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:25 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 23 2013, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Oh no you didnt


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Seriously though, yes it was pretty much wasted. I'm sorry, but no matter how you look at it, it really was wasted. if it was going to be unwasted, then it should've had her being relevant to the plot. Another reason why it was wasted is that it's been so long since we last saw her doing anything. Even healing. And yet, she's doing nothing here.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:27 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Apr 23 2013, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What's the matter, Striker A.K.A #1 Sakura fanboy?? heheelq7.png

Seriously though, yes it was pretty much wasted. I'm sorry, but no matter how you look at it, it really was wasted. if it was going to be unwasted, then it should've had her being relevant to the plot. Another reason why it was wasted is that it's been so long since we last saw her doing anything. Even healing. And yet, she's doing nothing here.

Exactly. It's almost like Sakura switched places with Hinata. The latter is near Naruto all the time, "helping" him (encouragement, shoulder fix), while Sakura is just there thinking "Naruto...Naruto...". facepalm.png

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:28 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 23 2013, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*cough* correction

Hinata gets on panel "development"

NS gets Sakura and some development + foreshadowing.

The glass is not always half empty.


In honesty 615 was not just development. As much as i hate saying this it was a romantic moment, maybe only from Hinata but still.. a whole chapter practiacally...

We get a few panels of fan service... YES FANSERVICE. I love NS but i refuse to acknoledge sakura panels in this chapter to be any more then fanservice due to lack of sakura panel time.

We are going to get trolled with inevitable SS moment, however i am starting to believe sakura wont fangirl at all but will still interact with Sasuke and might be lured into reviving her love for him (Though it isn't 100% dead yet)

Im prepared for the SS moment incoming but i hate the fact Sakura will only be plot relevant if Sasuke is involved.... kittening annoying

just my opinion

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#165 StrikerTheNoble

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:30 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Apr 23 2013, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What's the matter, Striker A.K.A #1 Sakura fanboy?? heheelq7.png

Seriously though, yes it was pretty much wasted. I'm sorry, but no matter how you look at it, it really was wasted. if it was going to be unwasted, then it should've had her being relevant to the plot. Another reason why it was wasted is that it's been so long since we last saw her doing anything. Even healing. And yet, she's doing nothing here.


Yea here`s the deal. Naruto will not walk avay from this with some dust on his clothes. It was stated and foreshadowed that he will get injured. When he does it will be his nurse/love interest who will be able to help him. Hinata will not be able to play medic again. Sakura will.

Also. What would take to satistfy you with this chapter. If there was no Sakura you would complain about the lack of Sakura. At this point I`m confident that some of you guys will only be happy if she gets an absurdly powerful poverup and kicks the crap out of the enemy herself. Why is it so hard to enjoy the story. Why not enjoy Sakura for what she is at the moment.

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So drawing a character that shows up 3 times in the manga is a "moment" but the reapearance of the girl whow was always there but happened to be sidelined a little bit is fanservice? How does that work again?

Edited by StrikerTheNoble, 23 April 2013 - 01:35 PM.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:34 PM

Stop panicking pleeeeeeeeeease.


Sakura is going to have relevance concerning Naruto, Sasuke, and/or Team 7... that's how it goes. Being disappointed that she isn't doing more is understandable but a bit annoying at this point. You should have logical expectations when it comes to her, and all the Senju/Hashirama/Madara speculation is going too far.

Now uh, I'm not sure how she'll react when Sasuke comes, but don't lose your kitten if she has a big panel or something; he is still important to her, whether it's romantic or not. Just be satisfied with this and move on.

Edited by AzureWaters, 23 April 2013 - 01:34 PM.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:38 PM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Apr 23 2013, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stop panicking pleeeeeeeeeease.


Sakura is going to have relevance concerning Naruto, Sasuke, and/or Team 7... that's how it goes. Being disappointed that she isn't doing more is understandable but a bit annoying at this point. You should have logical expectations when it comes to her, and all the Senju/Hashirama/Madara speculation is going too far.

Now uh, I'm not sure how she'll react when Sasuke comes, but don't lose your kitten if she has a big panel or something; he is still important to her, whether it's romantic or not. Just be satisfied with this and move on.

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Apr 23 2013, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sasuke


QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Apr 23 2013, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sasuke


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:40 PM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Apr 23 2013, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stop panicking pleeeeeeeeeease.


Sakura is going to have relevance concerning Naruto, Sasuke, and/or Team 7... that's how it goes. Being disappointed that she isn't doing more is understandable but a bit annoying at this point. You should have logical expectations when it comes to her, and all the Senju/Hashirama/Madara speculation is going too far.

Now uh, I'm not sure how she'll react when Sasuke comes, but don't lose your kitten if she has a big panel or something; he is still important to her, whether it's romantic or not. Just be satisfied with this and move on.

it's not panic... people are just disappointed.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:42 PM

Do you guys realize that what happened in the previous chapters and the one today happened in a fraction of second? Sakura has just received the chakra cloak, because, if you pay attention to the first panel she's drawn without it.
Luckily, Naruto reached her and Kakashi and transferred them some chakra again, therefore blasting the big fire and shurikens coming at them. So stop panicking! She just received the cloak and she immediately started to worry about Naruto. And she's has done until now exactly what she's supposed to do. Remember the rules she has to follow.
Also, notice the difference between her and the others. While everyone keeps relaying on Naruto, she's like the only one worrying for his well-being! How can you call that waste of panel? Things are just starting now. Stop being so negative. And, yes, I know I was a pessimistic person before, however, the context in this chapter is different. And you know I go rage-mode if it's something that I don't like. But this was an easy set-up for what's about to come.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:43 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Apr 23 2013, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it's not panic... people are just disappointed.

People in here will always be dissapointed, no matter what happens something is always wrong.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Apr 23 2013, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it's not panic... people are just disappointed.


I see a bit of panicking i.e worrying over the thought of SasuSaku, complaining about her not getting the expected panel time, etc.


QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 23 2013, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bolded: Yeah you got that part right laugh.gif


Maybe Kishi just wants her to be relevant with Team 7. And if she does happen to get spotlight with Sasuke there's not much we can do. Meanwhile complaining when it hasn't even happened yet is useless and irritating.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:45 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 23 2013, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you guys realize that what happened in the previous chapters and the one today happened in a fraction of second? Sakura has just received the chakra cloak, because, if you pay attention to the first panel she's drawn without it.
Luckily, Naruto reached her and Kakashi and transferred them some chakra again, therefore blasting the big fire and shurikens coming at them. So stop panicking! She just received the cloak and she immediately started to worry about Naruto. And she's has done until now exactly what she's supposed to do. Remember the rules she has to follow.
Also, notice the difference between her and the others. While everyone keeps relaying on Naruto, she's like the only one worrying for his well-being! How can you call that waste of panel? Things are just starting now. Stop being so negative. And, yes, I know I was a pessimistic person before, however, the context in this chapter is different. And you know I go rage-mode if it's something that I don't like. But this was an easy set-up for what's about to come.

she's in the chakra cloak already
here.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:47 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 23 2013, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea here`s the deal. Naruto will not walk avay from this with some dust on his clothes. It was stated and foreshadowed that he will get injured. When he does it will be his nurse/love interest who will be able to help him. Hinata will not be able to play medic again. Sakura will.

Also. What would take to satistfy you with this chapter. If there was no Sakura you would complain about the lack of Sakura. At this point I`m confident that some of you guys will only be happy if she gets an absurdly powerful poverup and kicks the crap out of the enemy herself. Why is it so hard to enjoy the story. Why not enjoy Sakura for what she is at the moment.


Actually, I never expected anything more. I knew that when someone mentioned (from spoilers) Sakura's back, I knew her reappearance was too good to be true. In fact, I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that she probably won't do anything.

Basically, "Sakura's back?? yeah right, she'll probably just gawk there like an idiot again. *finishes reading the chapter* yup, thought so."

Another thing, you don't have to make people like the chapter. That's not something you should be doing. If people are criticizing, it doesn't mean they are bashing as long their arguments have a valid basis to criticize upon.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:49 PM

A lot of people just dont seem to understand that all the stuff that happend before, like chapter 615 or 617 and before, was ust ment to develope and resolve sidecharacters. Thats one of the resons why sakura wasnt shown to heal narutos shoulder and stuff, but i think it should be obvious that we are now back to the main characters and sidecharacters are getting sidelined again. I really dont see the problem.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:51 PM

Can people stop telling others not to panick, or not to be negative? ..Can someone believe there will be a SS moment without getting this shoved down their throat? : ) Thank you.

Anyhow, about the chapter..it was alright. It didn't really move the plot too much, and one of Kishi's faults is wasted panels. I sometimes feel like he adds in stuff to write less. That's why I can only see three good things in the chapters. That is the Kakashi vs Obito interaction and Madara's face. I loved it. I love phsycopathic villains. I enjoyed the Sakura panels too, and I hope this foreshadowing comes true, however;

QUOTE (alexander @ Apr 23 2013, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Future events? I'm pretty sure everybody had been waiting for these future events for half an year now. So it's not surprising people are thinking they will never happen. If you are satisfied with her showing up and never doing anything, then you need to put your standards toward manga heroines a little higher, because I'm sure they are meant to be doing more then just standing around and looking pretty. And of course she is not going to defeat the enemy all by herself, but when she doesn't even bother trying to go help there in any way other then watching the battle, it's pretty disappointing for many fans.
^Agree, 100%

QUOTE (Codus N @ Apr 23 2013, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What's the matter, Striker A.K.A #1 Sakura fanboy?? heheelq7.png

Seriously though, yes it was pretty much wasted. I'm sorry, but no matter how you look at it, it really was wasted. if it was going to be unwasted, then it should've had her being relevant to the plot. Another reason why it was wasted is that it's been so long since we last saw her doing anything. Even healing. And yet, she's doing nothing here.

I don't think it was wasted. There was nothing epic for her to do in this chapter. If Sakura still stands there later, looking all pretty in the middle of a pure action chapter, I'll understand. But this scene isn't over yet, we just got a glimpse of what she's up to.

Edited by sushi., 23 April 2013 - 01:51 PM.

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#176 StrikerTheNoble

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:54 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Apr 23 2013, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, I never expected anything more. I knew that when someone mentioned (from spoilers) Sakura's back, I knew her reappearance was too good to be true. In fact, I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that she probably won't do anything.

Basically, "Sakura's back?? yeah right, she'll probably just gawk there like an idiot again. *finishes reading the chapter* yup, thought so."

Another thing, you don't have to make people like the chapter. That's not something you should be doing. If people are criticizing, it doesn't mean they are bashing as long their arguments have a valid basis to criticize upon.


I realise you are entilted to you opinions but being a NS fan is not safe aperently.

Anywhere on the internet you go you get bashed. And here, H&E the NaruSaku fanclub. You read complaints and dissaproval. It`s anoying.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:57 PM

Did you notice that some action was off screen. Sakura seemed a bit tired. Thou I remember that cloud sensor wasnt wounded anymore so either a mistake or Sakura used chakra to heal the wounded

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:57 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Apr 23 2013, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, I never expected anything more. I knew that when someone mentioned (from spoilers) Sakura's back, I knew her reappearance was too good to be true. In fact, I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that she probably won't do anything.

Basically, "Sakura's back?? yeah right, she'll probably just gawk there like an idiot again. *finishes reading the chapter* yup, thought so."

Another thing, you don't have to make people like the chapter. That's not something you should be doing. If people are criticizing, it doesn't mean they are bashing as long their arguments have a valid basis to criticize upon.


This.

It's not fair to call people bashers and whiners when they have something to back up their argument. Everybody have the right to state their opinion, being positive or negative.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:58 PM

No matter what happens, there will always be a fault within one's work. Kishi's not a perfect mangaka either.

Moving along... am I the only one thinking the Tenpen Chii jutsu is related to Senjutsu. I wonder if Naruto combines SM, Kurama will have access to the Jutsu.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:02 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Apr 23 2013, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
she's in the chakra cloak already
here.


Bingo I was about to post that same Panel.


OK
This is what I see so far.
People who after chapter 615 spending a lot of time speculating of Sakura role just having a sudden switch.

People who were speculating things to come for Sakura being disappointing for good reason when you sit back and think or ask yourself why Kishimoto didn't draw Sakura before could mean that is for some major reason.

Some Panicking about SS, panicking about SS is silly if you ask me but you cannot write off the possibility of them having some positive interaction that might shake some NS fans believes.

We have some who don't care what role she gets as long she becomes Naruto wife in the end. sad.gif

And a few who believes Sakura chan is useless. mad.gif

Sadly this is the reallity and this late in the game we cannot tell anyone what to believe, instead we should try to give some real rational speculation according to the way Kishi is writing lately of why we should still believe NS will be the end pairing.

For me If Kishi if stay truth to his Manga there is no way for NS no to be the end pairing, plus the fact that no one in this Manga worries and cares about Naruto more than Sakura.

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