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[sushi.]

The chapter was OK, but I don't think Kishi realize how cheesy he is. The dead will always remain in their hearts, how many times have I heard it?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Finally back and....LMAO. Sorry. Sorry.

Kishi couldn't even show Naruto and Hinata holding hand in full color. Instead, we got Sasuke, which holy crap, I CALLED IT! KONOHA! Next arc, guys. I am incredibly ready. That color spread, still no NH, is awesome though. Hero and Heroine, huh. You hear that, Kishi still didn't forget. It's all about timing. Also, CALLED IT ON TEAM 7. Oh man, you don't know how happy I am right now. Lastly, well that holding hand is really romantic and...hey wait, where are you going, Naruto? Don't go touching everyone hands! We all called it. We are on a roll. This week is Shikamaru and Ino and somewhat Chouji because well he already got one by Asuma. Next week, I believe we will get Team Gai since they're there and I get the feeling what Naruto said at the end will inspire them to fight for the loss of Neji. That said a really good chapter and man oh man, all the stress in me is all gone. Nobody even consider NH holding hand romantic. Naruto just finally woke up and start the final plan, only I don't think Naruto can mold chakra to others to make it so powerful. Oh man, Sakura is coming. I can sense it.

[Slextrem]

Don't know about 'every' sense of the word, considering the situation ATM, but we're bound to see... 'contact' of some form (which NS has ample ammounts of).

LOL! Oh, I do~ There's a time and a place for everything, but I'm itching to see some beautiful blonde babies that can punch out the floor.

[tricksie]

I had a sneaking suspicion that we'd see Sasuke this chapter! lol

Also, great to see Naruto's new High Five no Jutsu. The kid is the ultimate coach. All talk and high fives!

The color page is beautiful. I like it when Kishimoto puts the characters in traditional Japanese dress. He did some images a while back of Jiraiya and Orochimaru (who really are characters from old Japanese tales), and I thought they were so beautiful. A way of connecting his contemporary manga with it's real, traditional roots.

About the picture, I just assumed it was about Team 7, because I don't think he's ever done a cover of that style with a villain. There is unity between the three in that they are all in costume. Implying they are all equal. The color images of Naruto v. Pain, for example, are dark and foreboding, and the villains are in their own dress. I don't think Kishimoto would give this treatment to Obito, considering that he is a villain. It makes more sense that it's Sasuke, especially since Sauske is feature in this chapter.

Also, since there's some talk about the placement, I'll add my two cents: The two males are engaging each other, while Sakura is looking directly at the audience. This is in line with Naruto/Sasuke's rivalry, with Sakura hovering in the middle. If it was Obito, I would expect Naruto and Sakura to be engaging him. Also, the "villain" here is not actively fighting, and has back turned, keeping his motives to himself. Again, in line with Sasuke rather than Obito.

Anyway, the picture tells a quick story. And for me that story points to it being Sasuke rather than Obito. (Nuances like eye shape, eyebrows, are going to take a backseat to the composition here, imho.)

But I think it can not be understated that Kishimoto knows exactly what he's doing by leaving a cliffhanger of Naruto holding Hinata's hand, only to follow up with the first page of the next chapter showing Sakura beautiful and radiant and fierce and specifically calling her a "heroine." What bigger sign do we need? Sakura is the heroine. No matter how many hands Naruto holds.

I was thinking, the manga is like a game of chess, and each chapter sees a new piece being moved. Sakura is like the queen. She won't be moved till the end. (Or like in shogi, which has been laid out in the manga and in this chapter, she would be like the king.) But each chapter is a give and take. Side pieces get moved, then the other side gets their turn. Sakura is a main character, the heroine of the story — the queen. When she is put into action it is going to be for a specific purpose that only she can accomplish. Hinata is a rook or a knight, there only to protect Naruto. As she herself as stated over and over again.

So anyway, when lamenting the lack of Sakura action, remember, she is the queen. She's more powerful than the rest. She's not going to be moved until the end.

Also, I don't know that the color pic means that something big will happen for Sakura or not. I remember a color image of Tsunade looking snidely at Mei and Sakura looking like she was about to hit Karui, and yet nothing came of any of that. Maybe some indirect tension, but it wasn't outright foreshadowing.

I think the bigger message was to reinforce that Sakura is the heroine, and the story still revolves around those three. Even if Sasuke's out of the picture at the moment, and Kishimoto's just made it look like Hinata had greater importance for a little while.

[Fenris]

Finally back and....LMAO. Sorry. Sorry.

Kishi couldn't even show Naruto and Hinata holding hand in full color. Instead, we got Sasuke, which holy crap, I CALLED IT! KONOHA! Next arc, guys. I am incredibly ready. That color spread, still no NH, is awesome though. Hero and Heroine, huh. You hear that, Kishi still didn't forget. It's all about timing. Also, CALLED IT ON TEAM 7. Oh man, you don't know how happy I am right now. Lastly, well that holding hand is really romantic and...hey wait, where are you going, Naruto? Don't go touching everyone hands! We all called it. We are on a roll. This week is Shikamaru and Ino and somewhat Chouji because well he already got one by Asuma. Next week, I believe we will get Team Gai since they're there and I get the feeling what Naruto said at the end will inspire them to fight for the loss of Neji. That said a really good chapter and man oh man, all the stress in me is all gone. Nobody even consider NH holding hand romantic. Naruto just finally woke up and start the final plan, only I don't think Naruto can mold chakra to others to make it so powerful. Oh man, Sakura is coming. I can sense it.

I couldn't agree more, and I'm really happy too , this morning I woke up dreading the chapter but it was better then I expected.
And I'm glad we got to see Sasuke too

Edited by Fenris, 16 January 2013 - 02:53 PM.

[Codus N]

Or punch it and break the 1000 387 mile record she set with Naruto.

Sakura: *grabs Juubi's tail* SHANNAAAROOOO!!!!!

*Juubi is tossed 563 miles away*

*Gyuuki, Kurama & Naruto jawdrops*

Gyuuki & (Naruto): Kyuubi (Kurama), what the hell have you done...??

[T XD]

It might be that she might gain ultimate healing abilities with Kyuubi chakra, and she'll basically be invincible!

And ultimate healing abilities too XD

[James S Cassidy]

Why is there a need for you to go all evidence or proof? I just listed that idea as one of the hundreds and thousands of possibilities out there. No need to try to act like L to just a mere daydream

With the way things are now, evidence is key. Everyone lately has been jumping at ghosts and claiming stuff that isn't only to have egg on their face. Better to have the evidence to back it up then to assume something that isn't.

And btw, just because there wasn't a panel of Sakura learning the slug summon it's still possible that she has it. It might appear suddenly, like how Sasuke summoned the hawk and the snake. Again, I'm just talking about possibilities.

True, but then again why hasn't she used such technique in the past? We know more than one summoner can use it at one time and that for such a versatile technique you'd think Sakura would use it more often.

As for Sasuke, well the Uchiha in general are the type of guys that pull jutsu out of dark places. Sadly, Sakura is not an Uchiha.

The same goes for the lack of puff of smoke. It might just be shown later that she has indeed reverse summoned, without showing the process. Naruto might ask towards Kakashi, "Where did Sakura go?" and Kakashi may reply, "To her master's place" and that may be all the confirmation we need. Again just one of the hundreds of possibilities out there.

Yeah, but I rather go for the simple solution first and say that she is just off helping another ninja somewhere on the battlefield. To be reversed summoned means that we need to see her sign the contract or make notion of it since only people who singed the contract can be reversed summoned. Then you need to explain why she hasn't used the technique all this time and more complications would arise in Kishi having to retcon again possibly and...it seems like a big mess.

There are hundreds of possibilities yes, but I follow Occam's razor.

I was thinking, the manga is like a game of chess, and each chapter sees a new piece being moved. Sakura is like the queen. She won't be moved till the end. (Or like in shogi, which has been laid out in the manga and in this chapter, she would be like the king.) But each chapter is a give and take. Side pieces get moved, then the other side gets their turn. Sakura is a main character, the heroine of the story — the queen. When she is put into action it is going to be for a specific purpose that only she can accomplish. Hinata is a rook or a knight, there only to protect Naruto. As she herself as stated over and over again.

I think Hinata is just a pawn while Neji is the rook or Knight.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 16 January 2013 - 02:59 PM.

[Chatte]

I had a sneaking suspicion that we'd see Sasuke this chapter! lol

Also, great to see Naruto's new High Five no Jutsu. The kid is the ultimate coach. All talk and high fives!

The color page is beautiful. I like it when Kishimoto puts the characters in traditional Japanese dress. He did some images a while back of Jiraiya and Orochimaru (who really are characters from old Japanese tales), and I thought they were so beautiful. A way of connecting his contemporary manga with it's real, traditional roots.

About the picture, I just assumed it was about Team 7, because I don't think he's ever done a cover of that style with a villain. There is unity between the three in that they are all in costume. Implying they are all equal. The color images of Naruto v. Pain, for example, are dark and foreboding, and the villains are in their own dress. I don't think Kishimoto would give this treatment to Obito, considering that he is a villain. It makes more sense that it's Sasuke, especially since Sauske is feature in this chapter.

Also, since there's some talk about the placement, I'll add my two cents: The two males are engaging each other, while Sakura is looking directly at the audience. This is in line with Naruto/Sasuke's rivalry, with Sakura hovering in the middle. If it was Obito, I would expect Naruto and Sakura to be engaging him. Also, the "villain" here is not actively fighting, and has back turned, keeping his motives to himself. Again, in line with Sasuke rather than Obito.

Anyway, the picture tells a quick story. And for me that story points to it being Sasuke rather than Obito. (Nuances like eye shape, eyebrows, are going to take a backseat to the composition here, imho.)

But I think it can not be understated that Kishimoto knows exactly what he's doing by leaving a cliffhanger of Naruto holding Hinata's hand, only to follow up with the first page of the next chapter showing Sakura beautiful and radiant and fierce and specifically calling her a "heroine." What bigger sign do we need? Sakura is the heroine. No matter how many hands Naruto holds.

I was thinking, the manga is like a game of chess, and each chapter sees a new piece being moved. Sakura is like the queen. She won't be moved till the end. (Or like in shogi, which has been laid out in the manga and in this chapter, she would be like the king.) But each chapter is a give and take. Side pieces get moved, then the other side gets their turn. Sakura is a main character, the heroine of the story — the queen. When she is put into action it is going to be for a specific purpose that only she can accomplish. Hinata is a rook or a knight, there only to protect Naruto. As she herself as stated over and over again.

So anyway, when lamenting the lack of Sakura action, remember, she is the queen. She's more powerful than the rest. She's not going to be moved until the end.

Also, I don't know that the color pic means that something big will happen for Sakura or not. I remember a color image of Tsunade looking snidely at Mei and Sakura looking like she was about to hit Karui, and yet nothing came of any of that. Maybe some indirect tension, but it wasn't outright foreshadowing.

I think the bigger message was to reinforce that Sakura is the heroine, and the story still revolves around those three. Even if Sasuke's out of the picture at the moment, and Kishimoto's just made it look like Hinata had greater importance for a little while.

This part is BRILLIANT!

[harry4e]

I'm dissapointed in the plan Ino/Shika or atleast what we've seen so far of it, though it could just be because Sasuke's ugly mug was shown at the beginning of the chapter and that always takes my enjoyment level down a few levels. There needs to be more Senju/Uzumaki history development and less Uchiha crap.

OK was anyone else thinking when the Nara Clan were holding the Ten Tails in place, Sakura would be turning up with a monster Karuma Chakra enhanced punch right in the Juubi's eye? I was sure it would be Ino distracting Obito, Nara holding him in place, then Choji flipping him over with Sakura delivering the ultimate blow.

[Codus N]

I was thinking, the manga is like a game of chess, and each chapter sees a new piece being moved. Sakura is like the queen. She won't be moved till the end. (Or like in shogi, which has been laid out in the manga and in this chapter, she would be like the king.) But each chapter is a give and take. Side pieces get moved, then the other side gets their turn. Sakura is a main character, the heroine of the story — the queen. When she is put into action it is going to be for a specific purpose that only she can accomplish. Hinata is a rook or a knight, there only to protect Naruto. As she herself as stated over and over again.

So anyway, when lamenting the lack of Sakura action, remember, she is the queen. She's more powerful than the rest. She's not going to be moved until the end.

I think the bigger message was to reinforce that Sakura is the heroine, and the story still revolves around those three. Even if Sasuke's out of the picture at the moment, and Kishimoto's just made it look like Hinata had greater importance for a little while.

Are you trying to be Shikamaru or something??

Also I believe this is what must be going through Kishimoto's head if what you said is true

[Hiraishin]

I wonder how much power Sakura will have once she's given Naruto's chakra. I mean, the girl can already smash boulders perfectly fine on her own. Could you imagine her Kyuubi-enhanced-chakra-fist flying at you? That would be terrifying.

Eeee I can't wait until Sakura with Kyuubi chakra. You guys are making me excited! She's gonna be a monster!
...That is, unless she's with Tsunade now, which I doubt.

Is the chakra Naruto's handing out different than the one Kakashi got? I don't remember him getting a Kyuubi-cloak thing like they're getting here... Looks cool, though.

[Fenris]

Tricksie you're a genius!

[T XD]

I had a sneaking suspicion that we'd see Sasuke this chapter! lol

Also, great to see Naruto's new High Five no Jutsu. The kid is the ultimate coach. All talk and high fives!

The color page is beautiful. I like it when Kishimoto puts the characters in traditional Japanese dress. He did some images a while back of Jiraiya and Orochimaru (who really are characters from old Japanese tales), and I thought they were so beautiful. A way of connecting his contemporary manga with it's real, traditional roots.

About the picture, I just assumed it was about Team 7, because I don't think he's ever done a cover of that style with a villain. There is unity between the three in that they are all in costume. Implying they are all equal. The color images of Naruto v. Pain, for example, are dark and foreboding, and the villains are in their own dress. I don't think Kishimoto would give this treatment to Obito, considering that he is a villain. It makes more sense that it's Sasuke, especially since Sauske is feature in this chapter.

Also, since there's some talk about the placement, I'll add my two cents: The two males are engaging each other, while Sakura is looking directly at the audience. This is in line with Naruto/Sasuke's rivalry, with Sakura hovering in the middle. If it was Obito, I would expect Naruto and Sakura to be engaging him. Also, the "villain" here is not actively fighting, and has back turned, keeping his motives to himself. Again, in line with Sasuke rather than Obito.

Anyway, the picture tells a quick story. And for me that story points to it being Sasuke rather than Obito. (Nuances like eye shape, eyebrows, are going to take a backseat to the composition here, imho.)

But I think it can not be understated that Kishimoto knows exactly what he's doing by leaving a cliffhanger of Naruto holding Hinata's hand, only to follow up with the first page of the next chapter showing Sakura beautiful and radiant and fierce and specifically calling her a "heroine." What bigger sign do we need? Sakura is the heroine. No matter how many hands Naruto holds.

I was thinking, the manga is like a game of chess, and each chapter sees a new piece being moved. Sakura is like the queen. She won't be moved till the end. (Or like in shogi, which has been laid out in the manga and in this chapter, she would be like the king.) But each chapter is a give and take. Side pieces get moved, then the other side gets their turn. Sakura is a main character, the heroine of the story — the queen. When she is put into action it is going to be for a specific purpose that only she can accomplish. Hinata is a rook or a knight, there only to protect Naruto. As she herself as stated over and over again.

So anyway, when lamenting the lack of Sakura action, remember, she is the queen. She's more powerful than the rest. She's not going to be moved until the end.

Also, I don't know that the color pic means that something big will happen for Sakura or not. I remember a color image of Tsunade looking snidely at Mei and Sakura looking like she was about to hit Karui, and yet nothing came of any of that. Maybe some indirect tension, but it wasn't outright foreshadowing.

I think the bigger message was to reinforce that Sakura is the heroine, and the story still revolves around those three. Even if Sasuke's out of the picture at the moment, and Kishimoto's just made it look like Hinata had greater importance for a little while.

Amazing description tricksie

[tricksie]

With the way things are now, evidence is key. Everyone lately has been jumping at ghosts and claiming stuff that isn't only to have egg on their face. Better to have the evidence to back it up then to assume something that isn't.

Yes but in the absence of evidence, you also turn to a precendent. And there is a huge precedent in this manga for jutsus/experiences/power-ups pulled out of nowhere. Sasuke with the hawk contract, as well as his connection with the cat clan. And the snake thing too! Sakura with her two+ years of training with Tsunade. Naruto and the bulk of his training with Jiraiya. All of that was done behind-the-scenes. And the biggest indicator for me that Sakura might receive the slug contract without us knowing about it is Sasuke's hawk contract. Where did that come from, and where did it go?

Anyway, there is a precedent in the manga for people getting skills out of the blue. So sure, it could easily happen again. There's more history pointing to it happening again than there is for it to not. Whether it does is anyone's guess.

edit: ty guys just doin' mah part!

[Codus N]

MS version is out

The part with Ino and Sasuke is a bit clearer. The flower she and her father was talking about meant a candid, blunt love. So yeah, I think Ino is on the same wavelength of Sakura here. It's also good to know that this chapter is definitely an indirect explanation to 540.

[Fenris]

It was all behind the scenes, I can fairly remember a flashback of tsunades training with Sakura in her younger years. Maybe, we'll see another flashback if she did learn how to summon slugs.

[Slextrem]

Eeee I can't wait until Sakura with Kyuubi chakra. You guys are making me excited! She's gonna be a monster!
...That is, unless she's with Tsunade now, which I doubt.

Is the chakra Naruto's handing out different than the one Kakashi got? I don't remember him getting a Kyuubi-cloak thing like they're getting here... Looks cool, though.

Kakashi had his chakra recharged by the Kyuubi, like a battery. Naruto is handing out "modified" Kyuubi chakra, specially made by Kurama, which causes the cloak. (I think. I'm not an expert, but this is my guess.)

[tricksie]

MS version is out

The part with Ino and Sasuke is a bit clearer. The flower she and her father was talking about meant a candid, blunt love. So yeah, I think Ino is on the same wavelength of Sakura here. It's also good to know that this chapter is definitely an indirect explanation to 540.

good. the other translations are so interesting to compare.

Also, I'm not so crazy about the reverse color cover. Looks like a bad printing job. Or Naruto is now being cast in Bazooka Joe comics! Or some kind of crazy manga Lichtenstein!

[Codus N]

Kakashi had his chakra recharged by the Kyuubi, like a battery. Naruto is handing out "modified" Kyuubi chakra, specially made by Kurama, which causes the cloak. (I think. I'm not an expert, but this is my guess.)

Yeah, that's probably the best explanation. Kurama even commented how Shikaku figured out his trick. Shikaku himself probably came up with a way to "modify" it. Something Kurama probably didn't even know the possibility of it.