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#161 merryGOflava

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 10:17 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Sep 6 2012, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
People don't want Obito to change because it's interesting having someone not conform to Naruto's ideas after a talk-no-jutsu. The only person who hasn't thus far is Sasuke, but he's destined someday to turn good in someway.


yea i figured biggrin.gif though i still want obito to change.

though he thinks hes doing whats right :ooo

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 10:30 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Sep 5 2012, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
See everyone blowing there stacks again. how quickly everyone forgets one of the tenants of Shinobi in this world.

Deception.



Hmm intriguing.

Sasuke = Uchiha

Karin = Uzumaki/Senju?



SasuKarin is dead. No matter what pairing it is, Sasuke is not boyfriend material. Karin outright stated that she was done with Sasuke. If she were to go back to Sasuke (whether it be next chapter or at the very end of the story or anywhere in between) after what he's done to her, it would greatly detriment her character. Making SasuKarin canon would be bad writing in itself just to make some half-assed point about forgiveness that will never make Sasuke be seen as a good person no matter how hard Kishi tries to shoehorn this point down the fandom's throats. Some people just don't deserve forgiveness, especially bland fictional douche-bags with over-inflated egos (i.e. Sasuke).

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 10:31 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 6 2012, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yea i figured biggrin.gif though i still want obito to change.

though he thinks hes doing whats right :ooo


...or maybe he's just crazy, that's an other possibility.

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Sep 6 2012, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SasuKarin is dead. No matter what pairing it is, Sasuke is not boyfriend material. Karin outright stated that she was done with Sasuke. If she were to go back to Sasuke (whether it be next chapter or at the very end of the story or anywhere in between) after what he's done to her, it would greatly detriment her character. Making SasuKarin canon would be bad writing in itself just to make some half-assed point about forgiveness that will never make Sasuke be seen as a good person no matter how hard Kishi tries to shoehorn this point down the fandom's throats. Some people just don't deserve forgiveness, especially bland fictional douche-bags with over-inflated egos (i.e. Sasuke).

Yes but tell me what karin can do?
suigetsu, juugo and karin orbitate around sasuke no matter what you think it wont change what karin will do she will go back to sasuke, because she's a side character, the same applies to hinata that her only resolution is naruto this and naruto that, there are few characters that are genuine, naruto, kakashi, gai, sakura, and a few that you know, sakura still have lingering feelings for sasuke but she orbitate around it?, no , she's more complex she dont "need" sasuke, but karin need sasuke.

it's not bad writing, kishi should dispose them already but thanks to his editors he has forced to let them still on the story, there's no development for them.
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#165 merryGOflava

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 10:58 PM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Sep 6 2012, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...or maybe he's just crazy, that's an other possibility.


well no duh!!! lol XDD

usually all crazy people think they are sane biggrin.gif

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 11:08 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 6 2012, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well no duh!!! lol XDD

usually all crazy people think they are sane biggrin.gif


It's an question of perspective, remember how woman were burned in stakes an hundred years ago framed of witchery and everyone thought it was the most normal thing in the world? I think, Obito is not entirely baseless, the ninja world is such an horrible place, maybe protecting it is not that worth it.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 12:26 AM

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Lets hope you don't drop the Manga after he gets TNJ, real villains does not get TNJ: Gato, Oro, Madara, are real villains, villains that have to do bad think to survive or to bring peace on their on way always, always end up being TNJ by Naruto and Tobi is just another victim.
The reason why many were asking for him to be Izuma or Kagomi is because they wanted a true villain not someone with a sad story.

The TNJ was already hinted when Shikaku told him about not being able to change Tobi with word and Naruto telling Kakashi that he will listing to his story latter.

Chances for a battle until the end is Madara's arrival.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 12:35 AM

What sad past does Obito have? Rin died. So what? You have to remember that this is the same Tobi we've known all these chapters. He knows his plan. He wants to complete it and doesn't give a damn what anyone else thinks. That's how Obito is. If he suddenly turns good then i'm choking a b*tch.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 01:04 AM

You know, I've always wondered if Tobi felt abandoned since they never went back for his body or anything.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 01:09 AM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Sep 7 2012, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What sad past does Obito have? Rin died. So what? You have to remember that this is the same Tobi we've known all these chapters. He knows his plan. He wants to complete it and doesn't give a damn what anyone else thinks. That's how Obito is. If he suddenly turns good then i'm choking a b*tch.


he "died' young because of a ninja war.

quite frankly having kid ninjas is bound to mess them up.

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#171 HalfStarStudios

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 01:12 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 6 2012, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
he "died' young because of a ninja war.

quite frankly having kid ninjas is bound to mess them up.

I don't see how that's a messed up past. He could have easily just went back to Konoha if he wanted too.
QUOTE (kirabook @ Sep 6 2012, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know, I've always wondered if Tobi felt abandoned since they never went back for his body or anything.

Well he did tell them to leave him.

Edited by HalfStarStudios, 07 September 2012 - 01:13 AM.


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Posted 07 September 2012 - 01:19 AM

True, but after all was said and done, I would think they'd recover the body at least or something.

Which now that I think about it, left room for something like Tobito to happen. I mean, what if he was actually alive under those rocks, suffering and all and they never came back to check on him or anything.

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#173 merryGOflava

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 02:11 AM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Sep 7 2012, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't see how that's a messed up past. He could have easily just went back to Konoha if he wanted too.


yea cause having a rock dropped on you and dying wont mess you up biggrin.gif

though maybe obito was experimented on?

and when he finally gets back the girl he loves is dead......

you can say thats not good enough.....but thats not fair.....when someones "world" gets destroyed whether its family like sasuke or a master like naruto, everyone handles it differently. just because someone like naruto was able to get through it doesnt make it any less painful. different reactions.

though i still have a hunch thats not the only reason for obito

Edited by merryGOflava, 07 September 2012 - 02:33 AM.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 03:45 AM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Sep 6 2012, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What sad past does Obito have? Rin died. So what? You have to remember that this is the same Tobi we've known all these chapters. He knows his plan. He wants to complete it and doesn't give a damn what anyone else thinks. That's how Obito is. If he suddenly turns good then i'm choking a b*tch.


I hope no girl is near you on that day, since Naruto will TNJ Tobi and show him a better way to peace just like how he did with Nagato, I have a big feelings that the original plan is Mandara's and Tobi is just a Tool.

Sorry but knowing Kishi I will be surprise if That doesn't happen.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 03:48 AM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Sep 6 2012, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope no girl is near you on that day, since Naruto will TNJ Tobi and show him a better way to peace just like how he did with Nagato, I have a big feelings that the original plan is Mandara's and Tobi is just a Tool.

Sorry but knowing Kishi I will be surprise if That doesn't happen.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 04:02 AM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Sep 7 2012, 04:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pathetic. dry.gif


maybe to you biggrin.gif but i cant wait for it!

then again i can take him not getting talked no jutsed too biggrin.gif

both seem cool too me :3

Edited by merryGOflava, 07 September 2012 - 04:11 AM.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 04:52 AM

Wow, I can't believe the immaturity here on this thread. I'm almost surprised there hasn't been any racial slurs thrown around.
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Posted 07 September 2012 - 05:14 AM

QUOTE (Nefertieh @ Sep 7 2012, 04:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, I can't believe the immaturity here on this thread. I'm almost surprised there hasn't been any racial slurs thrown around.


dont jinx it!

anyway :3

im still wondering about the kages....i forget...did madara leave them? or we dont know yet? :o

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 06:26 AM

QUOTE (Nefertieh @ Sep 7 2012, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, I can't believe the immaturity here on this thread. I'm almost surprised there hasn't been any racial slurs thrown around.

Damn sometimes I really have problem understanding some words.

What exaly do you mean?

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 06:47 AM

You guys! What if because Obito's sharingan was activated when he gave his eye to Kakashi, he has been able to watch Kakashi's whole life from that eye and that's how he knows tons of stuff including that Rin died despite being absent! kruemelmonsteryn0.gif




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