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[Yoshimoya]

I think all of us have calmed down now after a few rage posts and some thinking, let's not have one page ruin an entire fan pairing, obiviously this is all apart of Kishi's master plan...

Yea, I noticed. I'm just saying what I've wanted to all day, because I was stuck at school and sports all day today... Really wanted to help calm down some people because I was one of them too...

Haha it was during my 0 period class today when I read it on my phone and I was like "HOLY #@$%#$@%#$ WHAT THE" at first. Tried to rage post and ended up sounding like a douche-bag because I can't type fast on my phone so I said short and unintelligible words haha. Was itching to finally get home and post some decent stuff haha.

[Sakura Blossoms]

As of now I believe NaruSaku = 30% chance SasuSaku = 70% chance, that'll change over the many more chapters Kishi plans to torture us with. And for those who wanna say something about "Oh wow this is a damn action story don't get so caught up." This is a damn club for this pairing, let people get emotional if they want to! If it gets outta hand tell them wasup. But don't bash members character bashing is bad enough here guys. I'm sad with this turn of events too, but don't start attacking eachother cause of it.

This is a completely neutral statement from me. I have no 'percentage' for NaruSaku, but I must say that your 70% for SasuSaku is ridiculously and even pointlessly high. Why? Ever heard the adage 'it takes two to tango.' At what point in the entire manga has Sasuke even remotely shown interest in Sakura?

Other than trying to kill her of course.

You can't run off into the sunset, become a valid/canon pairing, and start making babies together without there being an actual pairing to begin with.

So to me SasuSaku has almost 0% of happening, as it has been to me from nearly the beginning of the manga. Sasuke does not and seemingly cannot 'love' anyone. He is headed down a path that will end in death and destruction for himself, and most everyone around him. There is no 'happy ending' for him in that.

[MangaReader]

Yea, I noticed. I'm just saying what I've wanted to all day, because I was stuck at school and sports all day today... Really wanted to help calm down some people because I was one of them too...

Haha it was during my 0 period class today when I read it on my phone and I was like "HOLY #@$%#$@%#$ WHAT THE" at first. Tried to rage post and ended up sounding like a douche-bag because I can't type fast on my phone so I said short and unintelligible words haha. Was itching to finally get home and post some decent stuff haha.

I wasn't directing it at anyone personally(as I admit I was mad too when I first read the chapter) so I don't blame you at all. Your post didn't come off bad to me, plus we all have a right to post our feelings, cept certain trolls, but stuff like that gets taken care of pretty easily. Watch, we'll all have a good laugh at this chapter when NaruSaku actually happens

[harry4e]

I had another image comparison in mind, but yours is better.

Bloody hell you are right, Kishi must really like that pose, he's had Naruto, Minato and now Sakura use it, Sakura's appears to be between the two Namikaze;s move, where Minato's hands cross over Sakura's doesn't quite completely crossover. And if we are going to put pointless arguments, can I use this pose as proof NaruSaku will happen? First we saw Minato saving his wife in the flashback in an almost identicle pose as Naruto when he saved Sakura, (both times saving them from an Uchiha) and in this update we saw Sakura use a punch with a similar pose as Minato used on Madara, to take out a Zetsu, who just happened to be created by Madara using the DNA of the first Hokage, which Madara also happens to have injected himself with. See proves without a doubt NaruSaku is the pairing of choice...lol

I wonder who was more insulted when Neji couldn't tell the difference between Kiba andhAkamaru?

[Hokage Sennin]

Bloody hell you are right, Kishi must really like that pose, he's had Naruto, Minato and now Sakura use it, Sakura's appears to be between the two Namikaze;s move, where Minato's hands cross over Sakura's doesn't quite completely crossover. And if we are going to put pointless arguments, can I use this pose as proof NaruSaku will happen? First we saw Minato saving his wife in the flashback in an almost identicle pose as Naruto when he saved Sakura, (both times saving them from an Uchiha) and in this update we saw Sakura use a punch with a similar pose as Minato used on Madara, to take out a Zetsu, who just happened to be created by Madara using the DNA of the first Hokage, which Madara also happens to have injected himself with. See proves without a doubt NaruSaku is the pairing of choice...lol

I wonder who was more insulted when Neji couldn't tell the difference between Kiba andhAkamaru?

I'm looking too much at it for me to consider it as proof, but then it is quite interesting indeed on the similar poses. It could just simply be Kishi's preference.

[MangaReader]

Bloody hell you are right, Kishi must really like that pose, he's had Naruto, Minato and now Sakura use it, Sakura's appears to be between the two Namikaze;s move, where Minato's hands cross over Sakura's doesn't quite completely crossover. And if we are going to put pointless arguments, can I use this pose as proof NaruSaku will happen? First we saw Minato saving his wife in the flashback in an almost identicle pose as Naruto when he saved Sakura, (both times saving them from an Uchiha) and in this update we saw Sakura use a punch with a similar pose as Minato used on Madara, to take out a Zetsu, who just happened to be created by Madara using the DNA of the first Hokage, which Madara also happens to have injected himself with. See proves without a doubt NaruSaku is the pairing of choice...lol

I wonder who was more insulted when Neji couldn't tell the difference between Kiba andhAkamaru?

Unless Kishi is getting lazy in his drawings...nah, I'd like to see this as proof though, but it's not like talking or thoughts or stuff like that

[James S Cassidy]

This is a completely neutral statement from me. I have no 'percentage' for NaruSaku, but I must say that your 70% for SasuSaku is ridiculously and even pointlessly high. Why? Ever heard the adage 'it takes two to tango.' At what point in the entire manga has Sasuke even remotely shown interest in Sakura?

Other than trying to kill her of course.

You can't run off into the sunset, become a valid/canon pairing, and start making babies together without there being an actual pairing to begin with.

So to me SasuSaku has almost 0% of happening, as it has been to me from nearly the beginning of the manga. Sasuke does not and seemingly cannot 'love' anyone. He is headed down a path that will end in death and destruction for himself, and most everyone around him. There is no 'happy ending' for him in that.

If Sakura still does like Sasuke, then this is really the only thing that kills the pairing definitely. SasuSaku has no chance and I am too saying this from a neutral point. Sasuke only cares about himself and he has demonstrated this point on several occasions. He is not going to change his mind like that and he is not going to become a good guy all of sudden because he realizes people love him. Everyone already tried to talk reason into him. Even Karin did and he still betrayed her.

I don't get what people see in Sasuke. I really don't know why people love him so much or thinks he should be this redeemed soul.

[Derock]

(I missed all of the action in here... after leaving the computer for a couple of hours?! )

Anyways, I would like to point out that Sakura didn't actually punched Zetsu to the ground... she ELBOWED him to the ground!!!

[Living Lavish]

Alright, it's about time I got home. I've been making my posts all on my Android Phone today. (So annoying when I have so much to say /).-)

I apologize for my earlier panic and rage haha. It seems I'm not the only one though. Good job though people, on getting others to calm down. I must say, that spoiler really juked us out and made us panic and whatnot. We didn't see the picture, only the script, so we had no idea that she was looking all depressed when she thought of Sasuke. However, I really don't think that changed much.

Sasuke is on her mind, and that really shattered my image of her telling Naruto "I love you" to be truthful. I'm sure she does love Naruto, but not in the romantic way. Many claim that Sakura only thought of Sasuke because she used to love him (in that panel) but really stop being in denial you all have to face that facts that Sakura is MADLY in love with Sasuke!!! I hate to admit it! Really! I'm a die hard NaruSaku fan and I love everything about it, but it's the truth.

I love this forum and all... but one thing I noticed, was a tool that most of you used to appease the panicers, which was overanalyzing that one panel. Some things just have to be taken at face-value and you needa suck it up and face the facts. Our personal bias really gets in the way... And an over analyzed aspect was when people claim that panel to be an exampleof Sakura transitioning to loving Naruto. Uh people... Naruto was no where in that whole entire page

I just think that most of us over anaylze and hold way too much hope in our hearts sometimes. Kishimoto isn't a perfect writer, and neither are we perfect. Please don't treat the panicers like they're some disgusting humans. You're human too. I paniced too. We all got emotionally involved and some got attached to this couple too! It actually makes me happy to see such devoted people to this pairing, cause it's something I enjoy supporting, following and discussing too. Another reason we shouldn't analyze so much is because you don't want to falsely raise the hopes of others. I think the reason that we all paniced and havoc was released in that certain spoiler discussion was because we all beat the crap out of all the moments and debatable topics back in the Great Narusaku Debate Thread. Seriously, I stopped posting there and grew tired of all the overdone and sometimes unbelievable things people added into moments and thoughts and whatnot that made me really say "Really? You're making up stuff now to further support this couple?" I'd love to rant about how this couple world work, but when people starting using material and make up crap that isn't even IN the manga... I have to draw the line and I wouldn't want to plant false information in our community.

So I beg of you NaruSaku fanclub, don't overanalyze every damn thing that Sakura thinks of that has to do with Sasuke or Naruto. If it's Sasuke she loves, it's Sasuke she loves... It makes me depressed I know, but if you ever need other nice romantic anime/ecchi/harem/drama just ask me, I assure you it'll take away your depression or get your mind off this (in some's opinion) fail-turd-manga pairing/story.

I can see where those people who want to abandon this manga come from. It's so frustrating. Kishi has been playing marry go round with all these pairings and it only makes them look bad.

If you got anything to say to me about how this was an up or positive turn for NaruSaku please.
Do so.

I really can't see how you can show that to me while sounding neutral. It'll only sound bias if you ask me.

As of now I believe NaruSaku = 30% chance SasuSaku = 70% chance, that'll change over the many more chapters Kishi plans to torture us with. And for those who wanna say something about "Oh wow this is a damn action story don't get so caught up." This is a damn club for this pairing, let people get emotional if they want to! If it gets outta hand tell them wasup. But don't bash members character bashing is bad enough here guys. I'm sad with this turn of events too, but don't start attacking eachother cause of it.

WOW!!! you are overreacting waaaaaaaayyy to much. much of what you said is rdiculious nobody is overanalyzing at all either.

lol wow

[Yoshimoya]

This is a completely neutral statement from me. I have no 'percentage' for NaruSaku, but I must say that your 70% for SasuSaku is ridiculously and even pointlessly high. Why? Ever heard the adage 'it takes two to tango.' At what point in the entire manga has Sasuke even remotely shown interest in Sakura?

Other than trying to kill her of course.

You can't run off into the sunset, become a valid/canon pairing, and start making babies together without there being an actual pairing to begin with.

So to me SasuSaku has almost 0% of happening, as it has been to me from nearly the beginning of the manga. Sasuke does not and seemingly cannot 'love' anyone. He is headed down a path that will end in death and destruction for himself, and most everyone around him. There is no 'happy ending' for him in that.

I guess it was false for me to put a 'percentage' seeing as Kishi could be pretty unpredictable. Yes I've heard 'it takes two to tango' and I keep that in mind, but seriously, with all the ambiguous material that Kishi throws at us I can't see what he's going to do with all these pairing possibilities. As of now SasuSaku is probably 0% but then that could change in a heartbeat (that's manga for ya). All Sasuke would have to do is say "Woo, Sakura be looking fine, Imma holla." I'd like to see Naruto get in the way, but, eh.

And Naruto seems pretty darn adamant in his 'saving' Sasuke and Sakura seems to have hope in Naruto that team 7 would be 'smiling together' once again (puke). I wish some reality would kick in to these two. I'd have to disagree with your "Sasuke does not and seemingly cannot 'love' anyone" the reason he's a nutjob was because of love. SasuSaku has been, and will remain for some time a threat.

[RedDelicious]

Sasuke is on her mind, and that really shattered my image of her telling Naruto "I love you" to be truthful. I'm sure she does love Naruto, but not in the romantic way. Many claim that Sakura only thought of Sasuke because she used to love him (in that panel) but really stop being in denial you all have to face that facts that Sakura is MADLY in love with Sasuke!!! I hate to admit it! Really! I'm a die hard NaruSaku fan and I love everything about it, but it's the truth.

I don't see "facts" that Sakura is madly in love with Sasuke.
What you say *might* be accurate, but it is just a possibility.

The alternative is also very likely:
1) LoverNin asks out Sakura
2) Sakura says she already has someone on her mind
(with Naruto most likely... no evidence, other than the recent love confession and a mountain load of clues in the previous 537 chapters)
3) LoverNin is heartbroken, but light-heartedly makes a comment that any guy that Sakura loves must be a really great guy
4) Sakura remembers her first crush, who seemed to be cool and turned out to be a homicidal psycho. Sakura gets gloomy thinking that not every guy she fell for turned out to be a great guy. She is reminded of that fact, which says little about her current feelings about him.

Let me try a different example, from chapter 247, page 3.
The bottom two panels show Naruto happy, Sakura agrees to a date, then Naruto is gloomy.

I *could* claim that it is the "truth" that Naruto is upset about the idea of going on a date with Sakura.
But I prefer to consider other possibilities, like Naruto's empty purse being the cause of his depression.

[StrawberryAcappella]

I must admit, i am a bit Disapoint. But seeingIt Sakura kick some butt it makes me Feel much better!!!!

[Nate River]

Now she may be full of sadness, but that's because she knows Sasuke has been manipulated by Madara and isn't exactly a good guy right now (not his fault). Naruto is going to save him though, so he will be back to normal by the end of the manga.

Sakura knows how Naruto feels about her, but just isn't interested.

This has been one my long standing disagreement with Sasuke fans.

It's not his fault? At what point is responsible for the choices that he makes?

[MangaReader]

I love how Karin got over Sasuke really fast after a near death situation, now before you guys say anything, I KNOW Sakura had a much more love-like crush on Sasuke even since she was little. Now you'd figure she'd have given up on the love interest crap for Sasuke after almost dying 3 times, but Kishi just loves to show how "stubborn" Sakura is. Just give it up, Sasuke will never love you back, geez. Back to Karin, I have to give her respect to be the first to actually lose a crush on the very guy who had all the fan girls.

[Toasty Warrior]

This topic and the debate thread have gone off like a nuke thanks to this chapter... oh boy, just when you think things are getting better something adds more fire to it.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

(I missed all of the action in here... after leaving the computer for a couple of hours?! )

Anyways, I would like to point out that Sakura didn't actually punched Zetsu to the ground... she ELBOWED him to the ground!!!

lol your right now that I look at it she does elbow the Zetsu. But its like her own form of Naruto's and Minato's pose.

[MangaReader]

This topic and the debate thread have gone off like a nuke thanks to this chapter... oh boy, just when you think things are getting better something adds more fire to it.

Well, I think we have to learn now that Kishi isn't messing around, he's saving the couples for last

[Yoshimoya]

I don't see "facts" that Sakura is madly in love with Sasuke.
What you say *might* be accurate, but it is just a possibility.

The alternative is also very likely:
1) LoverNin asks out Sakura
2) Sakura says she already has someone on her mind
(with Naruto most likely... no evidence, other than the recent love confession and a mountain load of clues in the previous 537 chapters)
3) LoverNin is heartbroken, but light-heartedly makes a comment that any guy that Sakura loves must be a really great guy
4) Sakura remembers her first crush, who seemed to be cool and turned out to be a homicidal psycho. Sakura gets gloomy thinking that not every guy she fell for turned out to be a great guy. She is reminded of that fact, which says little about her current feelings about him.

Let me try a different example, from chapter 247, page 3.
The bottom two panels show Naruto happy, Sakura agrees to a date, then Naruto is gloomy.

I *could* claim that it is the "truth" that Naruto is upset about the idea of going on a date with Sakura.
But I prefer to consider other possibilities, like Naruto's empty purse being the cause of his depression.

Sakura thinks of Sasuke right after LoverNin mentions "he must be a great guy if you fell for him." I highly doubt, nope, I'm pretty sure that she straight-up thought of Sasuke right away because that's the one she loves. If LoverNin said "Oh the person you loved must've been a great guy since you fell for him." Then your #4 would make sense.

She is reminded of that fact, which says little about her current feelings about him.

Quite false there buddy. This is all her current feelings about him. Loving him, feeling guilty about it. That's all current and true.

*Regarding that link you sent me! Dude, when they were together discussing the date, and then right after that, the other most developed and most likely to happen couple popped up walking together like Naruto and Sakura! Shikamaru and Temari! Dude that's great, makes me think that Kishi is thinking ShikaTem NaruSaku! Good job!

Edited by Yoshimoya, 26 May 2011 - 02:36 AM.

[merryGOflava]

sakura being kickbutt

and that sasusaku thing

shouldnt even be in the same chapter.

all i wanted to see was sakura fight and that sasuke panel ruined it for me.

dont get me wrong naruto and sakura is still happening, sakura just needs destroy those lingering feelings~. naruto needs to hurry up and confess, he needs to man up and stop sakura from being so CONFUSED!!!

and as for the naruhina thing. it gave me the face. like kishi woke up and said..."i feel like trolling " but i think I would troll for fun also :3

now im thinking sakura will have to make an ultimate choice between the boys. and pick naruto just like how she was caring for him in that OVA XDD

Edited by merryGOflava, 26 May 2011 - 02:32 AM.

[MangaReader]

You know, I haven spoken about the rest of the chapter yet...hm all I can say is

SAKURA, YOU SURE KNOW HOW TO LAY A BEAT DOWN

And you keep showing why your a genius