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[Aizen-Sama]

If Kimmimaro murdered an innocent person in cold blood I'd put him in hell. If he had a reason and the person provoked him I could set a case for him. But I can only keep him out of hell if the murdered person truly deserved it and was a real assh*le. If not, then it's the fires of hell for you Kimmimaro.

[TouKen4Life3g]

In case you're wondering, Mashima dodged the bullet.

[trang95]

Exact timeline of the novels:

https://www.animenew...unveiled/.87311

 

Naruto - Kakashi Hiden: Hyōten no Ikazuchi (Naruto - Kakashi Hidden Legend: Lightning of the Frozen Sky) takes place a few months after the second-to-last chapter of the original manga, and a short time after this, Sasuke leaves the village. Naruto - Shikamaru Hiden: Yami no Shijima ni Ukabu Kumo (Naruto - Shikamaru Hidden Legend: The Cloud That Floats in the Silence of the Darkness) and the The Last -Naruto the Movie- film and its novel adaptation take place two years after the chapter, and Naruto - Sakura Hiden: Shiren, Haru Kaze ni Nosete (Naruto - Sakura Hidden Legend - Feelings of Love, Riding on the Spring Wind) will take place a few months after those novels. Shortly after Sakura Hiden, the shinobi of the Hidden Leaf Village look for presents for Naruto and Hinata's wedding in Naruto - Konoha Hiden: Shūgen Biyori. Shortly after this, the couple is wed.

[Yyubie]

If Kimmimaro murdered an innocent person in cold blood I'd put him in hell. If he had a reason and the person provoked him I could set a case for him. But I can only keep him out of hell if the murdered person truly deserved it and was a real assh*le. If not, then it's the fires of hell for you Kimmimaro.

If every crime and bad behavior can be forgiven then theres no need for prison or cops or police. World will never be in chaos there will be no war.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Exact timeline of the novels:
https://www.animenew...unveiled/.87311

Don't care, don't care, don't care.

Stuff like this is a way to make them heavily relevant. Meh.

Btw, DBZ officially made 960 million.

[Yyubie]

Exact timeline of the novels:

https://www.animenew...unveiled/.87311

Realy? so sakura hidden take place before NH wedding/The Last?

[Nar123]

Don't care, don't care, don't care.

Stuff like this is a way to make them heavily relevant. Meh.

Btw, DBZ officially made 960 million.

 

If this follows, a sequel is almost guaranteed even with all of those bad reviews

[Nar123]

Yes, it's speculations but it's based around logical assumptions. Like that if people knew that Kushina was a jinchuuriki they definitely would have mentioned it somehow as they had no compunctions to talk 'freely' about Naruto ('His name is Uzumaki, do you think it's that Uzumaki? Like her? [Insert random speculations about demons, foxes and instability of seals or something]') or that it wouldn't make sense from a military perspective to make the information on an important asset available to the public. And even if Kushina's identity as Jinchuuriki was known, the Kyuubi hadn't harmed Konoha yet so the people had no negative attachment to it.

 

Oh and i read the manga . People fear what they don't understand and people hate what they fear. In the 'grand' picture it doesn't matter if the people know the difference between Jinchuuriki and their Bijuu. They don't understand the intricacies and so they fear them, they don' want them near them, their children, friends, house, village and lifes. They simply want them gone and they'll do whatever it takes to do, only because Jinchuuriki are a war asset they can't do anything really 'harmfull' (lol) to the hosts. So they have to make due with simply 'letting the Jinchuuriki know' that they're not welcome.

And the reason they hate Gaara was because he killed people but he was protected as an important village asset and because the Ichibi had already killed many people before it was sealed into Gaara.

 

The issue of hating/fearing Jinchuuriki can be summarised in one word: Ouroboros

Biju gets sealed -> Host loses control and Biju gets free -> Biju rampages and kills people -> Biju gets sealed -> Host gets discriminated and is not trusted -> Host loses control and Biju gets free -> Biju rampages and kills people -> Biju gets sealed -> you know the drill.

 

 

You are using your own headcanon AKA "logical assumption" to cover up Kishi's mistake of not explaining Kushina's and Mito's situation in detail  

 

And in Suna people hated Gaara even before he bewgan killing/ murder, and they did like this too with other jinchuuriki, hell in Suna jinchuuriki used to be put outside the village

But I agree with you in people hating what they fear, that's partly of the whole reason of why Naruto and Gaara where hated because of their demons

 

 

It makes even worse IMO when Mito's and Kushina's situation was never explained.

If we go by your own "logical assumption" then you would have to also assume (headcanon) that Kushina and Mito used 0 power of the fox which is unlikely specially in Kushina's case since she was a shinobi during some time. This is why you shouldn't really use headcanons to fix the author mistakes, headcanons mrings more headcanons and so forth

 

 

 

Realy? so sakura hidden take place before NH wedding/The Last? 

 

No

 

The last -> Sakura sh*tty novel --> Nh wedding

Edited by Nar123, 20 April 2015 - 01:53 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
If this follows, a sequel is almost guaranteed even with all of those bad reviews

Money, money, money, money, money!

[rocci]

Money, money, money, money, money!

Industry.

[Narufan85]

Money, money, money, money, money!

[TouKen4Life3g]

Money, money, money, money, money!

Every man has a price!

[Decius23]

 

 

 

You are using your own headcanon AKA "logical assumption" to cover up Kishi's mistake of not explaining Kushina's and Mito's situation in detail  

 

If we go by your own "logical assumption" then you would have to also assume (headcanon) that Kushina and Mito used 0 power of the fox which is unlikely specially in Kushina's case since she was a shinobi during some time. This is why you shouldn't really use headcanons to fix the author mistakes, headcanons mrings more headcanons and so forth

 

And you know that how exactly? I simply take what's shown in the manga and build a hypothesis out of these facts. Accusing me of replacing facts with so called 'headcanon' is simply another way of calling me biased or even a liar and i really don't think that i, as a scientist/engineer, can actually afford to be one . Unemployment sucks...

 

Don't you guys learn how to read and interpret literature in school anymore? I mean what i did was a basic method of interpreting certain scenes/information and build a logical hypothesis that would be able to explain other, less clear, points. And i say hypothesis, not theory because there is a difference....

 

A good example would be you saying that Kushina not using Kyuubis chakra is unlikely as she was a shinobi during war time. You never tried to strengthen your position with facts. You just said it was 'unlikely' without explaining why...

 

Noone in Konoha had an idea on how to try to train a Jinchuuriki (seen on Jiraiyas extemely hazardous training method) or that during war time Jinchuurikis would logically be prime targets and would therefore be held back for most of the war (Koharu and Homura tried to get Tsunade to keep Naruto in the village, it is therefore logical that they would have done the same with Kushina and the Sandaime. Danzo would most likely hold the opposite stance during war time but we have no evidence of that).

Or that Kushina was never known for beeing the Jinchuuriki no Kyuubi but for 'her beauty and unique Ninjutsu' making. Beeing a Jinchuuriki, especially when well known, would be something important to mention, wouldn't it.

All those pieces make it rather unlikely that Kushina and Mito's identity as Jinchuuriki were known to the general populace.

 

And regarding Gaara: As i said, there were Jinchuuriki before him that lost control so Gaara had to live under the stigma of beeing a 'moster in disguise' or 'a lit exploding tag'. I re-read the parts and i couldn't find any evidence of him beeing hated. From the beginnning they were afraid of him. True hate can only come when you know that your actions wouldn't have dire consequences aka death. You seem to confuse actions made out of both these feelings.

When Gaara tried to connect with people they would rather stutter and try to get away from him as they were afraid. If they would truly hate him they would simply shout at him to piss off or even get physical.

 

That's also the difference between Gaara and Naruto. Naruto could be safely hated as they never knew something like an insane Jinchuuriki or had to fear Naruto becoming violent/murderous. You could say that fear and hatred were existing as seperate entities.

Gaara on the other hand was known to kill, even if it was accidentally, and they already had previous experience with Jinchuuriki so they only feared him. The hatred came through their fear of him so the hatred was attached to fear instead of beeing seperate as with Naruto.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I don't care about anything after 450. That's the end of Naruto too me.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't care about anything after 450. That's the end of Naruto too me.

That's many fans ending.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

That's many fans ending.

What happened after is this... They found and defeated Sasuke. He felt regret and decided to go back to Konoha. Naruto confronted Hinata and told her he was touched by her feelings but doesn't feel the same. She understands and moves on. Neji doesn't die and is being helped by Hinata to lead the clan. Naruto confessed to Sakura and later gets married. Then Naruto becomes Hokage and a caring, loving father. That's my headcanon.

[ichigo500]

Exact timeline of the novels:
https://www.animenew...unveiled/.87311

So it confirms our theory that naruto and hinata married each other just 3 months after naruto fell in love with her....

[TouKen4Life3g]

So it confirms our theory that naruto and hinata married each other just 3 months after naruto fell in love with her....

I wish I can use your avatar.

[Gaara's hair]

I wish I can use your avatar.

[luffyq1]