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#17881 Gojira

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:05 PM

Well, with all due respect, it's not the best example you put out there with the passion. That movie is like based on a true story, or rather religion truth story since I don't want to start an argument here. That said I wouldn't say I expected any different, but sometimes, you break a code or two, pull a swerve as they say. I mean I don't read comic but Superman did in fact kill a guy, which shocked people. So you can't really say that this must happen. Games have alternative stuff as well.

Basically, it's either expected or not expected, when going to the movie as a person with comic book knowledge. However, if you don't read the comic, then it is most definitely a spoiler.


If this is referring to MOS than I have to say I hate how the audience was overreacting to Superman offing Zod because unlike Batman.....Superman has never had a no killing rule. Zod, Faora, Darkseid, Braniac, Mongul, Doomsday all of these people he's killed more than once....in the same timeline. (I also hate how people say Christopher Reeve Superman would be a lot more humane....even though he killed Zod by crushing his hand and throwing him into a chasm...after he lost his powers.)

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:06 PM

Sorry, James. I have to agree with these guys. Not by force but I do understand them completely. I mean it's fair that it's your opinion, but people don't want to be spoiled, so you got to respect that, especially for those who never know anything about Spider-Man but the movie(s).

Anyway, moving on.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:06 PM

....you guys really expected something different? Honestly? That's like watching Passion of the Christ and saying "Don't tell me what happens to Jesus in the end, I want to find out for myself."
I'm sorry, but I don't considered it a spoiler. Since Spider-Man and all Marvel movies are based off the comics, there has to be some things that are already a given. To me, I knew Gwen Stacy was going to die since the first movie, but I never knew how or when. I am that much of a comic book buff. Of course, straying off the material source to try and do something too original can go either really good or really bad.
Take example The Dark Knight Rises or Dragonball Evolution.
 
Bolded: Well, since you put it that way and you guys say they don't have to, why not make Gwen Stacy the Green Goblin? Wouldn't that be a huge twist and really be something or do you feel that is too much straying off the path?

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:08 PM

If this is referring to MOS than I have to say I hate how the audience was overreacting to Superman offing Zod because unlike Batman.....Superman has never had a no killing rule. Zod, Faora, Darkseid, Braniac, Mongrul, Doomsday all of these people he's killed more than once....in the same timeline. (I also hate how people say Christopher Reeve Superman would be a lot more humane....even though he killed Zod by crushing his hand and throwing him into a chasm...after he lost his powers.)

It is. Again, I don't read comic so I wouldn't know. All I'm saying is that there is time that you can bend the rule at any time. Media won't be the exact same as comic/novel/etc.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:09 PM

She pretty much dies the same way except different location and harry is the goblin instead of Norman

See? Bend the rule already.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:14 PM

Thanks dear. For that answer, it took me 3 days to write it due to my almost broken computer. And I still haven't given half of the response but.. oh well!

WOW!!! 3 days you should probably take a rest everyone could tell that you have put allot of effort in it and i'm sure every one appreciates it the only thing that is left now is to wait and see  :))) 

Yes it does. But since, in the first place I don't agree with NH, I can care less for that. Even Hinata would not accept Naruto this way and I take it that she does have some self respect. So, the answer to your question, yes it does make NH a silver medal.

@Chatte, awesome blog! My thoughts more or less are the same though not so detailed  :P! But nice blog. Gives answers to mooooossstt of the questions regarding NS.

Well with Hinata is really hard to tell because she's so obsessed with Naruto kun Naruto kun Naruto kun , at least we know from the kage summit that Naruto would not accept him being a silver medal i think this was already established so i don't know why all this talk about him being one , also there is no way that Kishi will make NS canon and still portrait that she will have feelings for Sasuke no author will do that . 


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:26 PM

Well, with all due respect, it's not the best example you put out there with the passion. That movie is like based on a true story, or rather religion truth story since I don't want to start an argument here. That said I wouldn't say I expected any different, but sometimes, you break a code or two, pull a swerve as they say. I mean I don't read comic but Superman did in fact kill a guy, which shocked people. So you can't really say that this must happen. Games have alternative stuff as well.

Basically, it's either expected or not expected, when going to the movie as a person with comic book knowledge. However, if you don't read the comic, then it is most definitely a spoiler.

Well with all due respect the same, I did bring up the Winter Soldier as an example and you said nothing of that. Not only has been long since spoiled who the Winter Soldier is, but as well he is being played by the same actor who played Bucky in the first movie. It's not really that much of a secret and the reason why I don't consider it a spoiler especially when it is based off an already existing source.

See the bigger surprise would be if they did do something different...which you are right, but if they just do the same thing, then that would not really be a spoiler. A real spoiler would be like I said Gwen Stacy becoming Green Goblin or becoming a super-villain that Peter has to fight.

Also, reading the comics is kind of mandatory thing in my opinion. If you say you are a Spider-man fan, then reading the history of Spider-Man should be warranted. It's like calling yourself a Naruto fan when all you ever watch is the Anime movies. Not the anime series or even the manga, JUST the movies. Case and point with Superman. I have seen many fans say about Man of Steel "This is not the Superman I grew up with" and yet never read a single Superman comic in their life. They base their whole ideal of it on the Superman Animated Series which is vaguely based on the comic books as well.

I think we both know that straying too far from the source can be just as bad as shown with Dragonball Evolution which had barely anything in common with the manga at all.

I think we both can agree that if someone bases their whole perception of Naruto based ONLY on the Naruto anime movies, is kind of insulting to all Naruto fans out their who take time to read the manga and watch the anime and movies.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:30 PM

Thanks. I have heard mixed feelings. Well, at least critics' point of view. I still want to watch Captain America as I keep hearing it's really good, perhaps best in Avengers' team series. Funny, it takes none over the top power hero to make a really good movie, when you think about it.

If you want I just posted my review it's in the "On a scale of 1-10 rate the last movie you watched" thread. Talking about Captain America, personally I consider Captain America The Winter Soldier better than The Avengers. And this is coming from someone who absolutely hated the first Captain America. 

 

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:35 PM

Well with all due respect the same, I did bring up the Winter Soldier as an example and you said nothing of that. Not only has been long since spoiled who the Winter Soldier is, but as well he is being played by the same actor who played Bucky in the first movie. It's not really that much of a secret and the reason why I don't consider it a spoiler especially when it is based off an already existing source.

See the bigger surprise would be if they did do something different...which you are right, but if they just do the same thing, then that would not really be a spoiler. A real spoiler would be like I said Gwen Stacy becoming Green Goblin or becoming a super-villain that Peter has to fight.

Also, reading the comics is kind of mandatory thing in my opinion. If you say you are a Spider-man fan, then reading the history of Spider-Man should be warranted. It's like calling yourself a Naruto fan when all you ever watch is the Anime movies. Not the anime series or even the manga, JUST the movies. Case and point with Superman. I have seen many fans say about Man of Steel "This is not the Superman I grew up with" and yet never read a single Superman comic in their life. They base their whole ideal of it on the Superman Animated Series which is vaguely based on the comic books as well.

I think we both know that straying too far from the source can be just as bad as shown with Dragonball Evolution which had barely anything in common with the manga at all.

I think we both can agree that if someone bases their whole perception of Naruto based ONLY on the Naruto anime movies, is kind of insulting to all Naruto fans out their who take time to read the manga and watch the anime and movies.

Well, I didn't see Winter Soldier but I do believe they show him in the trailer, so it's like "Oh it's him". But anyway, let it pass.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:38 PM

If you want I just posted my review it's in the "On a scale of 1-10 rate the last movie you watched" thread. Talking about Captain America, personally I consider Captain America The Winter Soldier better than The Avengers. And this is coming from someone who absolutely hated the first Captain America. 
 
Sorry for the off-topic.

Good review.

Didn't know Hans Zimmer did the score, so hell yeah to that.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:45 PM

Well, I didn't see Winter Soldier but I do believe they show him in the trailer, so it's like "Oh it's him". But anyway, let it pass.

Trailers tend to give too much away. That's another reason why I don't watch trailers all that much. You going to see Godzilla?


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:51 PM

Trailers tend to give too much away. That's another reason why I don't watch trailers all that much. You going to see Godzilla?

True. Though I hate the fact the trailer that is done by someone else makes it amazing. That's why I always adore trailers. I made one for NS using manga pages because well, I suck. Lol.

Yes, I want to see that movie. Really hoping for it to be good.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:59 PM

It is a good thing but the problem is that on canon manga occurs the otherwise despite being that shallow on RTN on the manga is portraited as something genuine and strong this is what i dont get.
It's like Kishi telling me that the sky is blue on the movie but on the manga he says it's red.

 

Because those "genuine and strong" feelings actually come from Sakura's desire of camaraderie. Sakura mistakes that feeling for romantic love because she tends to misunderstand her own emotions.

 

I would agree except we have several moments that prove it goes beyond simple fangirling, she actually does love him which has been noted by both Naruto and Karin (despite Karin not knowing anything about Sakura). She was willing to sacrifice her life for him when Gaara attacked, when he was in a coma she visisted him every single day according to Tsunade and has been shown to beyond simple crush as noticed and stated by Naruto during the retrieval arc.

 

And as I said, Sakura tends to misunderstands her own feelings, which results in Naruto also misunderstanding her feelings.

 

Whatever Sakura does for Sasuke either comes from her feelings of camaraderie, or of her misconception of her love for him. People can do crazy things just because they believe they're in love, even if it turns out later on that they aren't in love at all.



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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:03 PM

True. Though I hate the fact the trailer that is done by someone else makes it amazing. That's why I always adore trailers. I made one for NS using manga pages because well, I suck. Lol.

Yes, I want to see that movie. Really hoping for it to be good.

Fan made trailers are pretty decent. I guess it's because they use more special effects instead of fading out and fading in like most officials trailers do.

 

Bryan Cranston is in the movie so it should be good by default lol. Loved him in Malcolm in the middle.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:07 PM

Bryan Cranston + Godzilla + armeggadoon + Kaiju fights

If it doesn't get good reception I will have lost my fate in humanity...that asia trailer...one of the best film trailers period.

@Chatte Its an impressive blog, that's amazing.

Though (and people are gonna get pissed at me for bringing it up again but) the whole point of the confession was that Sakura loves Sasuke whether she likes it or not. She tries to switch to Naruto but as Naruto has proven (through flashbacks and actual words) she does in fact still love Sasuke backing this up as Sasuke being "the someone else" she loves. This proves to me the current situation of the love triangle going on right now

Naruto loves Sakura, and wants what will make her happy which he believes is her being around Sasuke, however he does acknowledge that what he and Sakura share is more than just friendship (the girlfriend comment in 631 and being slightly annoyed in 632)

Sakura knows that Naruto loves her, and she acknowledges that she has feelings for him as well, but is also aware that Sasuke is the one she is the one she is in love with and is continuously hurt by how much he is descending into darkness

Sasuke doesn't give a kitten about anyone other than himself as usual and still has yet to go back to the good side for good this time supposedly, from Naruto ofcourse (though I don't know what is stopping Sasuke from being persuaded to the other side like back when he was a complete good guy in the beginning. His character is such a wildcard at this point that him simply being alive runs the risk of him turning into another Madara and therefore endangering the entire shinobi world)

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:09 PM

If you ask me HTTD 2 traillers did the biggest spoilers ever.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:15 PM

If you ask me HTTD 2 traillers did the biggest spoilers ever.

Should have kept that mystery person who was wearing the mask a mystery. Still gonna be a great movie though. I'm looking forward to some Hiccstrid :)


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:16 PM

Not to sound insensitive or anything,

but....

 
 
I have to agree with this one. Even Ino had this ideal crush on Sasuke and cried over him as well. Doesn't this mean that Ino was truly in love with Sasuke? And if she was, why not have SasuIno become canon? Just having feelings or attractions to someone is just not enough in this manga otherwise you could say that the entire female body of Konoha was in love with Sasuke.

Again, it is another reason why I hate Sasuke. He gets all this attention from all the characters in the show and yet he doesn't even want it or deserve it. It's also getting harder to really believe it because really it makes the girls look absolutely pathetic that they are hung up on this guy who really never gave a crap about them.

That reminds me, I wonder who Ino will end up with in the end seeing how Sasuke is not going with her either.
 
As for the silver medal concept...wouldn't that make NaruHina that silver medal too? "I am only with Hinata not because I love her, but because I can't have Sakura."

Which goes with my point, Sakura needed to see Sasuke going with other girls to realize that "He didnt cared about her specially" but on the manga he tried to kill her two or three times, rejected her confession and treatened her friends and village and still it doesnt count as it?
Does hipothetically she needs to see SasuKarin to get over it?
I mean really?

To show how pathetic is her love she gets over after seeing Sasuke and his fangirls, it's something i really dont get it, because i cant see how this is stronger than the murder attempts, rejections and treatening i prefer to believe Kishimotos was trolling on his spinoff because the concept is really stupid.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:24 PM

Sasuke doesn't give a kitten about anyone other than himself as usual and still has yet to go back to the good side for good this time supposedly, from Naruto ofcourse (though I don't know what is stopping Sasuke from being persuaded to the other side like back when he was a complete good guy in the beginning. His character is such a wildcard at this point that him simply being alive runs the risk of him turning into another Madara and therefore endangering the entire shinobi world)

 

He still cares for Taka since when Obito was planing to wipe out the entire alliance Sasuke wanted to save both Naruto and Jugo. 



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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:25 PM

Fan made trailers are pretty decent. I guess it's because they use more special effects instead of fading out and fading in like most officials trailers do.
 
Bryan Cranston is in the movie so it should be good by default lol. Loved him in Malcolm in the middle.

I mean trailers in general, especially video games. They really made it to be a huge deal.




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